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Mephiztopheleze
Republic University Minmatar Republic
437
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Posted - 2016.01.15 01:01:41 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:worth noting theres a bit of drama going on in the merc scene in that area too so best haul cautiously in that pipe i.e. 120mill is waaaaay yo much value for a t1 hauler
hehe, yeah. I discovered this the hard way a couple of weeks ago when I was on the receiving end of my first suicide gank.
400m worth of P2 goods is way too much to haul in an Epithal without the MWD/Cloak trick. The loot fairy smiled on the lucky bastard too, all my P2 dropped.....
Occasional Resident Newbie Correspondent for TMC: http://themittani.com/search/site/mephiztopheleze
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Pix Severus
Mew Age Outpaws
2152
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Posted - 2016.01.15 01:32:38 -
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Back in the day we had Hulkageddon, where for a limited time, if you were out mining anywhere in highsec, you were probably going to lose your ship.
These days it feels like Hulkageddon is running continuously, it is much more dangerous out there than it used to be, and it is glorious.
My lord.
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PineRidge Raider
7 SEAS INC.
5
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Posted - 2016.01.15 01:46:06 -
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Pix Severus wrote:Back in the day we had Hulkageddon, where for a limited time, if you were out mining anywhere in highsec, you were probably going to lose your ship. These days it feels like Hulkageddon is running continuously, it is much more dangerous out there than it used to be, and it is glorious.
That is exactly what I said in the first post. I really don't mind the situation, just wanted to understand it to deal with it! |
Neuntausend
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
515
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Posted - 2016.01.15 01:54:14 -
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The game itself didn't change all that much, I think. However, after what now - 13 years? - players have perfected some of their playstyles. Ganking may be the most obvious one if you live in high sec. But then again - I have been able to gank barges and exhumers with a single destroyer back in 2009 as well. I used Thrashers back then, and each time I dropped too low on Sec status I went back to low sec and pushed it back up. These days, people don't even care. Not because the mechanics have changed, but because they have learned how to deal with them. They drop a prefit catalist from a hauler, and keep going. They use neutral scouts to pick a target before even undocking. They coordinate well enough to even crack freighters with nothing but t1 destroyers. They learned how to bump a freighter out of alignment basically as long as they need to to get in position for the kill.
However, people have perfected money making as well, blitzing missions in paper-tanked 1.5k DPS battleships, running Incursion Sites in 5 minutesc clearing whole High sec belts in a few minutes with an Army of Exhumers. Same thing with other things - Hotdropping, Blueballing, running away.
The game hasn't changed all that much, people have just learned how to play it. |
Amarrchecko
Hedion University Amarr Empire
86
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Posted - 2016.01.15 03:48:22 -
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Neuntausend wrote:The game hasn't changed all that much, people have just learned how to play it.
When were rigs introduced again?
What about rebalancing of barge/exhumer EHP and fitting in general?
But I generally do agree that this is just the kind of stuff that starts cropping up after a game has been around for this long. |
LordInvisible
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
21
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Posted - 2016.01.15 09:05:34 -
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Problem with ganking is that you can get disposable alts or abuse buy_sec_status_back program by concord.
I actually dont see a point in ganking where you cant get anything out of it. I understand ganking someones shinny, but killing someone just because killmail is in my eyes pointless and should be penalized even more that it is now (its not penalized at all tbh..).
Same with smartbombing pods in lowsec. Yes, I got SBed yesterday but its no biggie for me, just a bit of annoyance to get back to what I was doing few minutes ago. But attacker didnt receive anything out of it (or maybe a hardon, not sure..) and its completely pointless in my eyes. |
Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite CODE.
2032
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Posted - 2016.01.15 09:05:36 -
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Good parents don't let their kids mine without a mining permit and teaching them about the New Halaima Code of Conduct, the law of Highsec.
the Code ALWAYS wins
Elite PvPer, #74 in 2014
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Mithandra
Catastrophic Operations Get Off My Lawn
428
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Posted - 2016.01.15 09:58:15 -
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I'll translate this for you.
A group of people have found a way to extort isk from high sec miners and mission runners using game mechanics, and have put together a stomach churning code explaining how their ganking actions are not just to benefit themselves, but to benefit the whole of eve.
Welcome back to EVE.
Eve is the dark haired, totally hot emo gothchild of the gaming community
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Remiel Pollard
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
7387
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Posted - 2016.01.15 10:48:36 -
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LordInvisible wrote:Problem with ganking is that you can get disposable alts or abuse buy_sec_status_back program by concord.
I actually dont see a point in ganking where you cant get anything out of it. I understand ganking someones shinny, but killing someone just because killmail is in my eyes pointless and should be penalized even more that it is now (its not penalized at all tbh..).
Same with smartbombing pods in lowsec. Yes, I got SBed yesterday but its no biggie for me, just a bit of annoyance to get back to what I was doing few minutes ago. But attacker didnt receive anything out of it (or maybe a hardon, not sure..) and its completely pointless in my eyes.
Rolling disposable alts for the purpose of ganking is against the rules, and tags get expensive. The majority of people ganking in high are doing it on -10 toons.
And the last thing EVE needs is penalties for actions that already have them, not to mention being entirely avoidable in the first place. You got smartbombed and lost a pod because you didn't bounce or use a safe to scan the gate from first.
GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'.
Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥
- Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
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Omar Alharazaad
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
2694
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Posted - 2016.01.15 10:58:52 -
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I dunno. I personally find the Code of conduct to be one of the most awesome things introduced by players in the game in years. It's a lovingly crafted piece of propaganda that is engineered solely to engender a kneejerk rebellious response. Even better, it's chock full of true. Then there's the ten million permit fee. So many folks start absolutely FROTHING over this, which for most players basically amounts to pocket change... but, but EXTORTION!
What this equates to is something that's hard to ignore. People either hate it or embrace it so long as it has any capacity to affect them. It's player driven content. Emergent gameplay.
Delightfully funny from my perspective as well.
Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.
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Nana Skalski
Poseidaon
2730
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Posted - 2016.01.15 11:09:03 -
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Its boring and exhausitive to gank people again and again, I dont know why these people even try. One would think, that after 100th time ganking someone, one would be wiser its really meaningless.
Of course if you take away profits from the whole equation.
( -á° -ƒ-û -í°)/ GòáGò¼GòªGò¼Gòú - my sandcastle
( -á° -ƒ-û -í°)/ <=X - my yacht
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Demica Diaz
SE-1
180
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Posted - 2016.01.15 11:18:09 -
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I had to strap Salvager II when flying Dodixie - Jita. Made millions from salvage wrecks. |
Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite CODE.
2032
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Posted - 2016.01.15 11:20:21 -
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Mithandra wrote:I'll translate this for you. A group of people have found a way to extort isk from high sec miners and mission runners using game mechanics, and have put together a stomach churning code explaining how their ganking actions are not just to benefit themselves, but to benefit the whole of eve. Welcome back to EVE. Not sure what you talk about, because we don't extort people. But it does sound like a reasonable business model to me.
the Code ALWAYS wins
Elite PvPer, #74 in 2014
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Zappity
Black Aces I N F A M O U S
2617
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Posted - 2016.01.15 11:53:25 -
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Make sure you don't carry too much loot for any particular hull. You can figure out how much costs. If you carry more than double the cost (50% drop rate) you increase the risk of being ganked.
Check this out: http://kalkoken.altervista.org/blog/tool-how-to-calculate-the-number-of-catalyst-needed-to-gank-a-freighter-and-how-to-make-profit/
Zappity's Adventures for a taste of lowsec.
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Gliese Casserres
Fistful of Finns Paisti Syndicate
20
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Posted - 2016.01.15 12:32:58 -
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Sob buhuu g+ñnkyti sob g+ñnk
I personally really don't see the issue. Over my few years I've done frequent travel on pipes and hubs and there has been only 2 failed gank attempts. Anyone with half a brain can see one coming several jumps prior - a frig sitting on a gate means scanner. Hell there has been times I hope someone tries to get my haulers, but nobody wants to commit ganking a properly tanked ship. Prep for 2 tornadoes minimum when you undock and generally nobody touches you. And don't fly a freighter - it's boring. |
Kaivar Lancer
Placid Peace Corps
709
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Posted - 2016.01.15 14:26:24 -
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Yep, high sec is more dangerous than it ever was. Which is good. :D |
Grauth Thorner
Vicious Trading Company
430
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Posted - 2016.01.15 18:00:57 -
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Gliese Casserres wrote:Sob buhuu g+ñnkyti sob g+ñnk I personally really don't see the issue. What thread have you been reading?
Create your own in-game shiplabels:
>EVE Custom Ship Labeler application forum thread
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