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Borges08
Mercenary Masterminds
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Posted - 2016.01.23 21:13:50 -
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Does anyone forsee plex prices ever dropping back to 500-600m a pop? I'm super sad that I must pay 2.4b a month to plex 2 accounts.
Looks like I'll be dishing out the credit card. |
Koniforous
Tauren Transit
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Posted - 2016.01.23 21:25:49 -
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No.
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Alexi Stokov
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2016.01.24 00:14:16 -
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Nope |
Mephiztopheleze
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2016.01.24 00:39:18 -
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Nope.
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Bad Bobby
Bring Me Sunshine In Tea We Trust
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Posted - 2016.01.24 05:26:46 -
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Short of an act of CCP, no. |
Troy Cintryx
Strategic Operations Inc.
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Posted - 2016.01.24 10:24:34 -
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If CCP starts turning off some ISK "faucets", we may see a decline in PLEX prices.
From my understanding, a majority of the PLEX market is based on speculation, not actual need. That means those with large amounts of PLEX could flood the market, driving down prices. Or conversely, continue to hoard PLEX, and we would see prices increase as they have.
Quite simply, the more ISK people have, the more they can spend on PLEX. If we start eliminating some sources of ISK generation, we may see PLEX prices level off or decline.
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Kaivar Lancer
Pegeler Investment Fund
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Posted - 2016.01.24 11:28:44 -
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Nope. People like to park their spare isk in PLEX. If some of those people leave the game (perhaps out of boredom, or if they die in RL, etc) and never come back, that PLEX is effectively destroyed. The supply of PLEX gradually diminishes over time. |
Xayder
Federal Fleet Supply
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Posted - 2016.01.24 11:54:05 -
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YES
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Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
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Posted - 2016.01.24 13:35:14 -
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They're going to be 1600-1800m soon if my predictions are right.
Only thing that will stop that is a dramatic decrease in ISK entering the economy - like a major null war that slows ratting.
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Rhivre
TarNec Invisible Exchequer
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Posted - 2016.01.24 18:40:42 -
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Sabriz Adoudel wrote:They're going to be 1600-1800m soon if my predictions are right.
Only thing that will stop that is a dramatic decrease in ISK entering the economy - like a major null war that slows ratting.
I would say 1600-1800 as well.
The interesting questions are what price the people who are speculating in PLEX will start cashing out at, and what people have as their "If PLEX hits this price, I will spend some $$ on it"
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Teckos Pech
The Executives Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2016.01.24 19:40:14 -
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Troy Cintryx wrote:If CCP starts turning off some ISK "faucets", we may see a decline in PLEX prices.
From my understanding, a majority of the PLEX market is based on speculation, not actual need. That means those with large amounts of PLEX could flood the market, driving down prices. Or conversely, continue to hoard PLEX, and we would see prices increase as they have.
Quite simply, the more ISK people have, the more they can spend on PLEX. If we start eliminating some sources of ISK generation, we may see PLEX prices level off or decline.
It is unlikely that speculation would cause a sustained rise in price by itself.
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Cixi
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Posted - 2016.01.24 20:51:46 -
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PLEXs are tied to inflation, they will not ever drop unless CCP introduce some massive isk sink (citadels ? ) |
Orlacc
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Posted - 2016.01.24 23:46:17 -
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Odd. I got two from a guy in a Heron once.
Price-wise I see no reduction.
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Jerry T Pepridge
Meta Game Analysis and Investment INC.
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Posted - 2016.01.25 00:26:17 -
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It rebounded very fast from the usual xmas dip.
can't see another sale anytime soon
Strong buy: IF no new sale comes from upcoming patch, that the only thing stopping it at this point.
grats to those that made isk on it.
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Elizabeth Norn
Nornir Research
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Posted - 2016.01.25 00:43:36 -
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Teckos Pech wrote: Frankly, to get to that level, I think it will be when CCP ties PLEX to yet another game resource/activity. Maybe when they give us a firm date for the SP injectors.
February release sounds pretty firm.
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Blinky Jimmy
Alliance of Free Stars
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Posted - 2016.01.25 05:42:58 -
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Sabriz Adoudel wrote:They're going to be 1600-1800m soon if my predictions are right.
Only thing that will stop that is a dramatic decrease in ISK entering the economy - like a major null war that slows ratting. As someone who's only option for subbing is plex, that would be a sad day indeed. I'd have to drop the sub on my 2nd acc, which means I'd effectively lose my JF. |
Zad Murrard
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2016.01.25 10:22:06 -
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They will stabilize / drop once enough people cannot make the needed amount of isk / month to buy one- (where X is however many they are usually buying).
Now whether people start subbing with money or quitting the game once they cannot buy plex with isk is something I don't know.
Time will tell. Or CCP, I'm sure they have some numbers in this matter already. |
erg cz
Eleutherian Guard Villore Accords
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Posted - 2016.01.25 10:56:14 -
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They will not drop. Cause CCP keeps adding features, that require PLEX (skins, skills injectors) so even with reduced amount of alts played the demand is still very high and it will stay high.
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Zappity
Black Aces I N F A M O U S
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Posted - 2016.01.26 09:18:08 -
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Only if the loot fairy is feeling generous.
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Ruvin
Out of Sight.
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Posted - 2016.01.26 10:05:54 -
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to answer the question no.
I think once injectors go live plex price will spike, i think by a lot.
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Sizeof Void
Ninja Suicide Squadron
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Posted - 2016.01.26 10:33:13 -
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As long as there is nothing else for space-rich players to buy, they will continue to stockpile PLEX, thus keeping the price high. And, CCP's recent decision to sell the new Skill Extractors for AURUM will also affect PLEX prices via space-rich players who will use the ISK->PLEX->AURUM method to buy the Extractors, in order to reallocate useless SP. This will increase the upward pressure on PLEX prices, as well.
PLEX prices can only drop when (a) CCP has a PLEX sale, and (b) CCP dumps large amounts of confiscated PLEX on the market - ideally, both at the same time. However, as we saw during the most recent holiday PLEX sales, the prices cannot drop significantly if the space-rich players can continue to buy them up, nearly as fast as they go on the market. This indicates that CCP would probably also have to (c) significantly reduce the ISK faucets in the game, and (d) increase the ISK sinks, in order to bleed out a lot of the excess ISK, partcularly that held by the space-rich, from the game. Progressive taxes on the space-rich, perhaps? lol
It is just too easy for many players to accumulate ISK and PLEX these days. Take a look at this fellow for example. |
Minarete
Celestial Tomb TOG - The Older Gamers Alliance
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Posted - 2016.01.28 18:22:47 -
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. The value of PLEX since march 2011
http://eve-marketdata.com/price_check.php?step=Show&type_id=29668®ion_id=10000002&solarsystem_id=&type=history
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Darkstar01
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2016.01.28 22:14:02 -
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Sizeof Void wrote:As long as there is nothing else for space-rich players to buy, they will continue to stockpile PLEX, thus keeping the price high. And, CCP's recent decision to sell the new Skill Extractors for AURUM will also affect PLEX prices via space-rich players who will use the ISK->PLEX->AURUM method to buy the Extractors, in order to reallocate useless SP. This will increase the upward pressure on PLEX prices, as well. PLEX prices can only drop when (a) CCP has a PLEX sale, and (b) CCP dumps large amounts of confiscated PLEX on the market - ideally, both at the same time. However, as we saw during the most recent holiday PLEX sales, the prices cannot drop significantly if the space-rich players can continue to buy them up, nearly as fast as they go on the market. This indicates that CCP would probably also have to (c) significantly reduce the ISK faucets in the game, and (d) increase the ISK sinks, in order to bleed out a lot of the excess ISK, partcularly that held by the space-rich, from the game. Progressive taxes on the space-rich, perhaps? lol It is just too easy for many players to accumulate ISK and PLEX these days. Take a look at this fellow for example.
PLEX will also go down if there is a HUGE influx of new players.
We'll see what happens with the launch of Citadels and Eve Valkyrie. Maybe it will drop PLEX down to around 1 Bil. |
Bad Bobby
Bring Me Sunshine In Tea We Trust
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Posted - 2016.01.29 03:54:19 -
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The PLEX sale is on, get them while they're not quite so hot. |
Luthor Ikkala
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2016.01.29 06:13:24 -
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I dont really see a reason why plex price should drop. When you have trained up necessary skills it shouldn't be too big of an issue to plex your account every month or every two months time. There is so many decent ways to make in this game so it shouldn't be a problem |
Sequester Risalo
Semiki Minerals and Missiles Company Ltd.
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Posted - 2016.01.29 12:58:16 -
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When the Last Freighter is Ganked, the Last Asteroid Mined, and the Last Rat Killed, You Will Realize That You Cannot Eat PLEX.
The price will go down when there is no more demand for PLEX because EVE is dying. |
Blinky Jimmy
Alliance of Free Stars
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Posted - 2016.01.29 18:52:07 -
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Sequester Risalo wrote:When the Last Freighter is Ganked, the Last Asteroid Mined, and the Last Rat Killed, You Will Realize That You Cannot Eat PLEX.
The price will go down when there is no more demand for PLEX because EVE is dying. Or tons of new players come and flood the market. Who am I kidding, there's no optimism in eve. |
Leg Day
Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde
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Posted - 2016.01.30 22:43:34 -
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Almost certainly not. Think about it for a moment... PLEX connects ISK to the Dollar, the most powerful currency in the history of mankind. There's no way that ISK can ever compete with the dollar, ever. The only way it would change is if CCP changed PLEX's relationship with the dollar in some way (like creating plex2 that costs $10) or something like that. |
Nitshe Razvedka
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2016.01.31 01:16:21 -
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Leg Day wrote:Almost certainly not. Think about it for a moment... PLEX connects ISK to the Dollar, the most powerful currency in the history of mankind. There's no way that ISK can ever compete with the dollar, ever. The only way it would change is if CCP changed PLEX's relationship with the dollar in some way (like creating plex2 that costs $10) or something like that.
The OP is talking about the isk price of plex not dollar price.
The isk price is driven by supply and demand within the eve market.
The dollar price is dependent on your currencies value in relation to the US dollar.
The US dollar is not the most powerful currency in the history of mankind. It is a fiat currency based on the perceived strength of the US economy. Hence market shocks such as 2007 see the dollar freefall. It is neither pegged to silver or gold, what keeps it artificially high is the Petro Dollar Recycling System ( the 6 major oil markets only trading in US $ ).
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Mazare Mircea
Firefly Inc.
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Posted - 2016.02.08 03:13:38 -
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Zad Murrard wrote:They will stabilize / drop once enough people cannot make the needed amount of isk / month to buy one- (where X is however many they are usually buying).
Now whether people start subbing with money or quitting the game once they cannot buy plex with isk is something I don't know.
Time will tell. Or CCP, I'm sure they have some numbers in this matter already.
This really.
Plex is tied to # of hours that are needed to get to the plex, for each and every one user this number varies.
Most plexers are the null-sec anom farmers and incursion runners. I don't think to a null sec farmer, it matters if he pays with plex in 12hs or in 24hs, he's got a full month to pay. Same for incursion runners, who cares if you pay in 8hs or in 16hs if you still have a full month to farm.
Added to this is that ppl use plex to park their isk, you saw what happened with the swiss franc when it became the designated currency to park RL cash in.
I am confident that it will reach 1.7b by the end of the yr (mid point between 1.6 and 1.8 vehiculated in this thread).
CCP can influence this by reducing the payout of these 2 activities that create isk out of thin air in the game, but it will take a prolonged, steady stay at a price level followed by a steady drop despite the efforts of the speculators with trillions of isk to make most ppl sell their plexes. And even then, put yourself in these ppl's shoes ... what will you do with the isk ?; park it in what ?
And if this run to sell the plexes actually happens (with the corresponding significant drop from the future plateau), it means a huge loss for CCP because they will lose subscription RL money as more ppl for a few months will prefer to spend ISK than to sub with rl cash, until these excess plexes are all used. |
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