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Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
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Posted - 2016.01.31 01:22:42 -
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Rhamnousia Nosferatu wrote:If someone continually calls you a liar, hateful person, makes up stuff you never said, while continually derailing the discussion
They might just be an anti ganker.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
Best Meltdown Ever.
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Teckos Pech
The Executives Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2016.01.31 01:22:42 -
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Rhamnousia Nosferatu wrote:Teckos Pech wrote:Rhamnousia Nosferatu wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Rhamnousia Nosferatu wrote: As said previously, some of the people in AG have identified recycled ganker alts and reported them to CCP.
Yeah, if you people told me the sun would come up tomorrow, I would wake up at five thirty just to double check. I don't believe a thing you angsty, hateful carebears say. Oh, and hiding my posts just makes it look like I hit the mark. Bullseye. Whoops, I didn't block your posts. Do you routinely block those who disagree with you? If so that speaks volumes to your intellectual honesty...which IMO, is so low right now anybody considers you even remotely believable...well except maybe the incompetent and foolish. In game I used to block those who spammed local. Lately I just stopped checking the local and removed the blocks. Not sure what intellectual honesty has to do with not wanting to have to sift through rubbish to get to occasional useful piece of information. If someone continually calls you a liar, hateful person, makes up stuff you never said, while continually derailing the discussion, I'd say that removing his posts can only make whole thread easier to read.
Blah, blah, blah...I block those who disagree with me because they cause me cognitive dissonance and I can't handle that.
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Mag's
Rabble Inc. Rabble Alliance
21051
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Posted - 2016.01.31 01:27:57 -
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Rhamnousia Nosferatu wrote:Whoops, I didn't block your posts. So, just to prove you, once again, wrong - one example which has been reported: https://zkillboard.com/character/95727954/ (-5.2 according to Eve Who). So, by now you've been proven to be: a) liar b) denying facts (link above) c) prejudiced towards folks who don't subscribe to your worldview d) who knows what else In a perfect world right about now you'd stop spewing your angsty and hateful retoric, but I doubt that will happen. Do carry on. Sorry, but what was this post meant to prove?
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Teckos Pech
The Executives Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2016.01.31 01:29:12 -
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You know my OOC alt was targeted by a CODE bumper and I have thought about going after bumping ships, problem is doing it solo is not easy and 2 people ganking the bumping ship would make is so much easier, but the people who get ganked are such sh**lers I cannot count them to help me...so I gave up and moved over to using a BR and JF.
Now when I see these same sh**lers whining on the forums...I despise them far, far more than CODE who are at least adding content.
To those who have had their freighters ganked, F-you and die in a fire.
Edit:
Long live CODE and any entity that ganks a freighter.
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Teckos Pech
The Executives Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2016.01.31 01:32:44 -
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Mag's wrote:Rhamnousia Nosferatu wrote:Whoops, I didn't block your posts. So, just to prove you, once again, wrong - one example which has been reported: https://zkillboard.com/character/95727954/ (-5.2 according to Eve Who). So, by now you've been proven to be: a) liar b) denying facts (link above) c) prejudiced towards folks who don't subscribe to your worldview d) who knows what else In a perfect world right about now you'd stop spewing your angsty and hateful retoric, but I doubt that will happen. Do carry on. Sorry, but what was this post meant to prove?
Nothing?
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Rhamnousia Nosferatu
Bunnyhopping days
141
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Posted - 2016.01.31 01:34:25 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Rhamnousia Nosferatu wrote: As for prejudices, let me quote you:
And I'll say it again. The anti ganking community are the most hateful, angsty, miserable bunch of miscreants I have ever laid eyes on. I have known at least a dozen of you to make repeated death threats against people I personally know, I have seen you spew the most hateful **** I've ever heard in local at people who aren't even gankers because they have negative sec status (it was a PL blops pilot going for a skillbook), I have seen you encourage people to use exploits that don't even work to get out of being ganked, and I have seen you encourage people to abuse the petition system to get losses reimbursed that don't qualify. In short, you are all slime, and I don't believe a word that any of you say. If you people told me the sun was coming up tomorrow, I would wake up at five thirty to double check. And as for bumping, there are a number of reasons why you will never get your way. Any one of them would work to stifle your thinly veiled attempt to kill more emergent gameplay, but all of them stand against you nonetheless.
I have no idea whom you are talking about regarding all these behaviors, but it certainly wasn't me or people I hang with in AG. I have never threatened someone in RL, advised using exploits, or encouraged use of petition system for losses which I knew did not qualify for reimbursement. If you run into such behavior - report it. I know I do once it goes beyond reasonable in-game smack (which, btw, your post has certainly gone beyond). Furthermore it is me you have been continually attacking in this thread, not some general 'anti-ganking community'. You seem to have issues telling individual people and discussion of real-life software defined mechanics of a computer game apart from those imaginary in-game groups, and in-game animosity. |
Mag's
Rabble Inc. Rabble Alliance
21051
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Posted - 2016.01.31 01:35:16 -
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Teckos Pech wrote:Mag's wrote:Rhamnousia Nosferatu wrote:Whoops, I didn't block your posts. So, just to prove you, once again, wrong - one example which has been reported: https://zkillboard.com/character/95727954/ (-5.2 according to Eve Who). So, by now you've been proven to be: a) liar b) denying facts (link above) c) prejudiced towards folks who don't subscribe to your worldview d) who knows what else In a perfect world right about now you'd stop spewing your angsty and hateful retoric, but I doubt that will happen. Do carry on. Sorry, but what was this post meant to prove? Nothing? Kinda what I thought, but it's late and I thought I'd ask.
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Rhamnousia Nosferatu
Bunnyhopping days
141
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Posted - 2016.01.31 01:37:33 -
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Mag's wrote:Teckos Pech wrote:Mag's wrote:Rhamnousia Nosferatu wrote:Whoops, I didn't block your posts. So, just to prove you, once again, wrong - one example which has been reported: https://zkillboard.com/character/95727954/ (-5.2 according to Eve Who). So, by now you've been proven to be: a) liar b) denying facts (link above) c) prejudiced towards folks who don't subscribe to your worldview d) who knows what else In a perfect world right about now you'd stop spewing your angsty and hateful retoric, but I doubt that will happen. Do carry on. Sorry, but what was this post meant to prove? Nothing? Kinda what I thought, but it's late and I thought I'd ask. Well, hopefully that Kaarous tends to make stuff up and deny facts while also basing his behaviour on fact that I'm not in his 'team' (apparently I'm a hateful angsty carebear). |
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
16026
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Posted - 2016.01.31 01:38:45 -
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Rhamnousia Nosferatu wrote: I have no idea whom you are talking about regarding all these behaviors
Did you miss the part where I said I don't believe what you say? You can deny until you're blue in the face, and I still won't care. You people crossed the line a long freaking time ago, and you all know how and why, and to whom.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
Best Meltdown Ever.
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Mag's
Rabble Inc. Rabble Alliance
21055
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Posted - 2016.01.31 01:39:08 -
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Rhamnousia Nosferatu wrote:Mag's wrote:Kinda what I thought, but it's late and I thought I'd ask. Well, hopefully that Kaarous tends to make stuff up and deny facts while also basing his behaviour on fact that I'm not in his 'team' (apparently I'm a hateful angsty carebear). I don't care about all that tbh, I just wondered what that post was meant to prove.
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Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
44059
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Posted - 2016.01.31 01:40:11 -
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Seems there's still no clear reason why my Freighter pilot deserves special treatment via protection from bumping.
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Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
16026
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Posted - 2016.01.31 01:40:58 -
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Scipio Artelius wrote:Seems there's still no clear reason why my Freighter pilot deserves special treatment via protection from bumping.
It should be obvious.
So that there can be less PvP in highsec. That's the whole point, after all.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
Best Meltdown Ever.
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Mag's
Rabble Inc. Rabble Alliance
21058
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Posted - 2016.01.31 01:44:12 -
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Scipio Artelius wrote:Seems there's still no clear reason why my Freighter pilot deserves special treatment via protection from bumping. Seeing as my freighter pilot has been in far less risk than Mag's ever has, I tend to agree. Many trips, never a loss.
So going by the risk table used by the AG crowd, shouldn't webbing and hauling get nerfed?
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Rhamnousia Nosferatu
Bunnyhopping days
141
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Posted - 2016.01.31 01:44:42 -
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Mag's wrote:Rhamnousia Nosferatu wrote:Mag's wrote:Kinda what I thought, but it's late and I thought I'd ask. Well, hopefully that Kaarous tends to make stuff up and deny facts while also basing his behaviour on fact that I'm not in his 'team' (apparently I'm a hateful angsty carebear). I don't care about all that tbh, I just wondered what that post was meant to prove. Well, basically that at least a part of his arguments were invalid due to things which have nothing to do with actual gameplay mechanics. |
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
16029
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Posted - 2016.01.31 01:45:34 -
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Mag's wrote:Scipio Artelius wrote:Seems there's still no clear reason why my Freighter pilot deserves special treatment via protection from bumping. Seeing as my freighter pilot has been in far less risk than Mag's ever has, I tend to agree. Many trips, never a loss. So going by the risk table used by the AG crowd, shouldn't webbing and hauling get nerfed?
Don't forget mining and exploration.
And yeah, my freighter alt has never lost her ship, nor come in any danger of it. But then I use webs and scout my gates, and I also bought her a handy dandy permit from an approved agent of the New Order of Highsec. The best tank that isk can buy.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
Best Meltdown Ever.
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Rhamnousia Nosferatu
Bunnyhopping days
141
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Posted - 2016.01.31 01:46:32 -
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Mag's wrote:Scipio Artelius wrote:Seems there's still no clear reason why my Freighter pilot deserves special treatment via protection from bumping. Seeing as my freighter pilot has been in far less risk than Mag's ever has, I tend to agree. Many trips, never a loss. So going by the risk table used by the AG crowd, shouldn't webbing and hauling get nerfed? Wasn't hauling nerfed when freighters got low slots (choice - tank vs capacity)? As for webbing, since it is not a 100% counter to bumping in reality I'd have nothing against its removal (just do make a viable proposal for that). |
Teckos Pech
The Executives Executive Outcomes
4506
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Posted - 2016.01.31 01:46:33 -
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You know, I'm fine with somebody who wants to be a "white knight" and is willing to put together a gang to gank a bumping ship. In fact, I'd say, "Awesome look at the beauty of emergence and players who are willing to do things that people wouldn't normally expect." Instead we get these whiny puss buckets who think they should be lauded for their behavior instead of deriving satisfaction from simply having fun and making the game more competitive.
Want to be a white knight? All you have to do is get a gang together that can gank the bumping ship. HS carebears should have the sec status and the skills to get into a T2 gank catalyst and make this totally viable...but HS carebears are, in the end, sh**lers who cannot abide the notion of doing something where CONCORD might destroy their ships.
It is not unreasonable for some players to regard these HS players as contemptible as they are not willing to do what their opponents are wiling to do, even in a limited sense.
Hell even if you are not willing to gank other players at least have the balls and the willingness to get into repping fleets...but no, you are too damn greedy to give up your own personal ISK harvesting to help a fellow HS player.
So we look at CODE. and other ganking groups and we see a high degree of cooperation, coordination an teamwork. We look to the HS victims of ganking and we get whining, crying, and complaints about how unfair things are...when there clearly exist in game solutions to their problems.
My only conclusion is: **** the HS victims of ganking groups.
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Teckos Pech
The Executives Executive Outcomes
4506
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Posted - 2016.01.31 01:47:42 -
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Rhamnousia Nosferatu wrote:Mag's wrote:Scipio Artelius wrote:Seems there's still no clear reason why my Freighter pilot deserves special treatment via protection from bumping. Seeing as my freighter pilot has been in far less risk than Mag's ever has, I tend to agree. Many trips, never a loss. So going by the risk table used by the AG crowd, shouldn't webbing and hauling get nerfed? Wasn't hauling nerfed when freighters got low slots (choice - tank vs capacity)? As for webbing, since it is not a 100% counter to bumping in reality I'd have nothing against its removal (just do make a viable proposal for that).
Seriously....you are asking for the removal of webbing freighters?
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Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
16029
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Posted - 2016.01.31 01:48:18 -
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Rhamnousia Nosferatu wrote: Wasn't hauling nerfed when freighters got low slots (choice - tank vs capacity)?
Does their gameplay have any risk in it that doesn't come from other players?
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
Best Meltdown Ever.
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Teckos Pech
The Executives Executive Outcomes
4506
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Posted - 2016.01.31 01:49:29 -
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Rhamnousia Nosferatu wrote:Mag's wrote:Teckos Pech wrote:Mag's wrote:Rhamnousia Nosferatu wrote:Whoops, I didn't block your posts. So, just to prove you, once again, wrong - one example which has been reported: https://zkillboard.com/character/95727954/ (-5.2 according to Eve Who). So, by now you've been proven to be: a) liar b) denying facts (link above) c) prejudiced towards folks who don't subscribe to your worldview d) who knows what else In a perfect world right about now you'd stop spewing your angsty and hateful retoric, but I doubt that will happen. Do carry on. Sorry, but what was this post meant to prove? Nothing? Kinda what I thought, but it's late and I thought I'd ask. Well, hopefully that Kaarous tends to make stuff up and deny facts while also basing his behaviour on fact that I'm not in his 'team' (apparently I'm a hateful angsty carebear).
What exactly has Kaarous made up?
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Mag's
Rabble Inc. Rabble Alliance
21058
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Posted - 2016.01.31 01:49:35 -
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Rhamnousia Nosferatu wrote:Mag's wrote:I don't care about all that tbh, I just wondered what that post was meant to prove. Well, basically that at least a part of his arguments were invalid due to things which have nothing to do with actual gameplay mechanics. Well I must saying going on past personal experience, the most vitriolic communications tends to come from those claiming to play the 'Good Guy'. But I digress.
I would still like to know about that post. You've not really answered the question tbh.
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Rhamnousia Nosferatu
Bunnyhopping days
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Posted - 2016.01.31 01:49:36 -
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Teckos Pech wrote:You know, I'm fine with somebody who wants to be a "white knight" and is willing to put together a gang to gank a bumping ship. In fact, I'd say, "Awesome look at the beauty of emergence and players who are willing to do things that people wouldn't normally expect." Instead we get these whiny puss buckets who think they should be lauded for their behavior instead of deriving satisfaction from simply having fun and making the game more competitive.
Want to be a white knight? All you have to do is get a gang together that can gank the bumping ship. HS carebears should have the sec status and the skills to get into a T2 gank catalyst and make this totally viable...but HS carebears are, in the end, sh**lers who cannot abide the notion of doing something where CONCORD might destroy their ships.
It is not unreasonable for some players to regard these HS players as contemptible as they are not willing to do what their opponents are wiling to do, even in a limited sense.
Hell even if you are not willing to gank other players at least have the balls and the willingness to get into repping fleets...but no, you are too damn greedy to give up your own personal ISK harvesting to help a fellow HS player.
All I can respond to this post of yours is: LOL. Can't be bothered explaining why, sorry buddy.
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Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
16029
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Posted - 2016.01.31 01:49:46 -
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Teckos Pech wrote: Seriously....you are asking for the removal of webbing freighters?
It's a fairly typical carebear fallacy, this time of totalitarianism.
In this, they accidentally reveal their true goals, because they view any safety that isn't 100% as worthless. So long as there is any risk whatsoever, they will never be satisfied.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
Best Meltdown Ever.
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Rhamnousia Nosferatu
Bunnyhopping days
141
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Posted - 2016.01.31 01:52:26 -
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Teckos Pech wrote: What exactly has Kaarous made up?
He made up that I publicly supported RL threats. He claimed that I made up recycled alts thingy. He stated quite clearly that he doesn't believe anything someone from other groups claims. What else you need drawn? |
Teckos Pech
The Executives Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2016.01.31 01:53:02 -
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Rhamnousia Nosferatu wrote:Teckos Pech wrote:You know, I'm fine with somebody who wants to be a "white knight" and is willing to put together a gang to gank a bumping ship. In fact, I'd say, "Awesome look at the beauty of emergence and players who are willing to do things that people wouldn't normally expect." Instead we get these whiny puss buckets who think they should be lauded for their behavior instead of deriving satisfaction from simply having fun and making the game more competitive.
Want to be a white knight? All you have to do is get a gang together that can gank the bumping ship. HS carebears should have the sec status and the skills to get into a T2 gank catalyst and make this totally viable...but HS carebears are, in the end, sh**lers who cannot abide the notion of doing something where CONCORD might destroy their ships.
It is not unreasonable for some players to regard these HS players as contemptible as they are not willing to do what their opponents are wiling to do, even in a limited sense.
Hell even if you are not willing to gank other players at least have the balls and the willingness to get into repping fleets...but no, you are too damn greedy to give up your own personal ISK harvesting to help a fellow HS player.
All I can respond to this post of yours is: LOL. Can't be bothered explaining why, sorry buddy.
That is it? You can't do anything better than "LOL"....how completely pathetic.
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Teckos Pech
The Executives Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2016.01.31 01:54:14 -
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Rhamnousia Nosferatu wrote:Teckos Pech wrote: What exactly has Kaarous made up?
He made up that I publicly supported RL threats. He claimed that I made up recycled alts thingy. He stated quite clearly that he doesn't believe anything someone from other groups claims. What else you need drawn?
Wut? LInks por favor?
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Rhamnousia Nosferatu
Bunnyhopping days
141
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Posted - 2016.01.31 01:54:46 -
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Teckos Pech wrote:Rhamnousia Nosferatu wrote:Mag's wrote:Scipio Artelius wrote:Seems there's still no clear reason why my Freighter pilot deserves special treatment via protection from bumping. Seeing as my freighter pilot has been in far less risk than Mag's ever has, I tend to agree. Many trips, never a loss. So going by the risk table used by the AG crowd, shouldn't webbing and hauling get nerfed? Wasn't hauling nerfed when freighters got low slots (choice - tank vs capacity)? As for webbing, since it is not a 100% counter to bumping in reality I'd have nothing against its removal (just do make a viable proposal for that). Seriously....you are asking for the removal of webbing freighters? No I'm not. Mag suggested it, I have nothing against it, but I'm not asking for it. Clearer now? |
Rhamnousia Nosferatu
Bunnyhopping days
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Posted - 2016.01.31 02:00:37 -
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Teckos Pech wrote:Rhamnousia Nosferatu wrote:Teckos Pech wrote: What exactly has Kaarous made up?
He made up that I publicly supported RL threats. He claimed that I made up recycled alts thingy. He stated quite clearly that he doesn't believe anything someone from other groups claims. What else you need drawn? Wut? LInks por favor?
Here's the death threats part https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6306176#post6306176. The rest is in past two-three pages (and not as serious as this crap is) so find it yourself. |
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
16032
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Posted - 2016.01.31 02:01:14 -
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Rhamnousia Nosferatu wrote:He claimed that I made up recycled alts thingy.
You did. You claimed it was alts used for ganking with negative sec status.
All you proved was one character in Doomheim, which means nothing.
Quote: He stated quite clearly that he doesn't believe anything someone from other groups claims.
Nope. Not "other groups", I get along well with a lot of people, actually.
YOUR group, on the other hand...
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
Best Meltdown Ever.
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Mag's
Rabble Inc. Rabble Alliance
21059
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Posted - 2016.01.31 02:02:00 -
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Rhamnousia Nosferatu wrote:Mag's wrote:Scipio Artelius wrote:Seems there's still no clear reason why my Freighter pilot deserves special treatment via protection from bumping. Seeing as my freighter pilot has been in far less risk than Mag's ever has, I tend to agree. Many trips, never a loss. So going by the risk table used by the AG crowd, shouldn't webbing and hauling get nerfed? Wasn't hauling nerfed when freighters got low slots (choice - tank vs capacity)? As for webbing, since it is not a 100% counter to bumping in reality I'd have nothing against its removal (just do make a viable proposal for that). That nerf was requested by your side and it was in fact the gankers that warned pilots that it would result in a nerf. Hardly something that can be laid at our feet now is it? What they wanted was fittings to be safer, plus the same ship. What they got was a ship that didn't perform as well as before.
Since nothing should be 100%, I don't see your point. But webbing does remove the chance of being bumped to almost as near to that, as not worth arguing over.
Plus I'm not the one wanting change here. I'm merely pointing out the irony, of using the risk argument. Just as it's use regarding bumping. If it's so risk free, then create risk or use that so called risk free mechanic yourself.
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