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Vorada Kuvakei
Illoren
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Posted - 2007.01.28 00:09:00 -
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My fellow Intaki, we are a people who are forsaken by many and suffer the worst of all people. Our worlds are plagued by massive drug cartels and our people are drowning in their poison. We have been left by our allies to fend for ourselves, and that is what we must do.
For years I served as part of Mordu's Legion. I fought countless battles, and have seen what the corrupt and greedy can do to a person in the name of profit. After my service, I retired and began to enjoy a comfortable life in the Caldari State. However, my friends, my family... my people, all were suffering, and I could not idly sit by and allow it to continue. I have gathered friends, from the Legion and elsewhere, and we have all come together with one purpose, to protect the Intaki people from the criminals that seek to do us harm.
Recently our people were subject to a new poison, known as Rise. This powerful hallucinogenic is claimed to induce pleasurable memories in the user, however it decays our minds, poisons us into living a false reality, and destroys the spirit of our people. The damage that this drug causes is dwarfed only by the one who has unleashed this upon the Intaki, Sundari Idama.
One of our revered and honored reborn has become the source of suffering for her own people. This she-devil who prides herself on pleasure and other desires, has gone too far in her actions. She has surrounded herself with thugs and criminals, Drug Dealers, hitmen and others are the cohorts of this woman. To see that such suffering comes from this Idama pains me greatly. She has turned on her people, and endless suffering has occurred because of it.
We are the Illoren, and we will bring peace and protection to Placid. |
The Cosmopolite
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.01.28 00:16:00 -
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What is the position of the Illoren on the Gallente Federation and the Intaki Question?
Do you support the absolute principle of self-determination for the Intaki?
The Cosmopolite
The Star Fraction Recruitment |
Bruno Bonner
Gallente Eve University Ivy League
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Posted - 2007.01.28 00:20:00 -
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Does the Illoren wish to see Federation laws being applied properly and cooperate with Federation Authorities for a better Placid Region? ------
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Kyoko Sakoda
Caldari Omerta Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.01.28 00:24:00 -
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Nice to meet you. I've heard wonderful things.
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Verantas Ilmaran
Euphoric Gaze
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Posted - 2007.01.28 00:32:00 -
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Vorada, how dare you speak so harshly of madam Sundari! The poison, as you call it, is a gift she has created for our people. Anyone can simply remember a good memory, but due to the work of Sundari, they can now relive the full pleasures of that experience. The effects of Rise cause one to truly feel as if that memory is taking place once again, only a fool denies themself such pleasure.
The mistress has brought together myself and many others, we have struggled to meet the demands of the people for this and many other drugs which they desire so strongly. We do not force our goods on any Intaki, they openly choose to buy and use our products. You cannot, and will not deny us the right to give our people what they want.
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Smagd
Encina Technologies Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2007.01.28 00:34:00 -
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Originally by: Vorada Kuvakei
We are the Illoren, and we will bring peace and protection to Placid.
That place would really badly need it. May well be harder than you thought. Good luck anyway.
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Hin Vemere
Stay Human.
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Posted - 2007.01.28 00:39:00 -
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Edited by: Hin Vemere on 28/01/2007 00:43:44 The Illoren was the name of an Intaki terrorist organisation. Suuji Praath of Placid Reborn was secretly a member until he turned to open piracy in Suffoco Noctis.
This new drug must be opposed, but it looks to me like Placid Reborn is dealing with it already. I don't agree with everything they stand for but at least they're not terrorists.
What is/was your relationship with Suuji Praath? And what tactics, specifically, will you use to 'protect' Placid?
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GoGo Yubari
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.01.28 00:45:00 -
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Hmm. If I may suggest to both sides of this argument, as I already alluded to it in the other thread, that the Cosmopolite be allowed to look at the drug and analyze its exact effects (if he agrees to that, of course). Also, if you don't mind me continuing with this barrage of questions, what relation are you to our dear Vika Kuvakei?
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Sundari Idama
Euphoric Gaze
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Posted - 2007.01.28 01:16:00 -
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Gentlemen, please calm down. Vorada my dear man, I wish that you would take the time to speak with me and you would see that your reactions and anger are misplaced. Pleasure and joy are emotions that our people deserve to feel at any given time, why do you wish to stop that? You hurt me with your words, saying that I have poisoned our people and caused such endless suffering. You have been busy serving the Legion, you do not know what our people have suffered while you were gone, enjoying a much better life.
I have brought endless joy to our people, I have given them a bottomless well from which they can drink their pleasures and escape from the sorrows that life can bring. You are a cruel man to wish to end this for them. Our people wanted, no, they needed Rise. If you wish to help Placid, then do not interfere with my organization's work as others have already done, and it is no doubt that it is YOU who corrupted their minds and turned them against me and our people!
I have been done great harm by others already who turn a blind eye to the gift I given our people. Much work was lost when three pilots, acting on lies such as yours, destroyed a freighter carrying equipment to let us better produce Rise so that we could meet our peopleĘs demands for it. Vendrin, Nolin Riis, and Leth Orion have cost our people untold amounts of progress, joy, and happiness. Why?
Why do you and others work to destroy what I have worked so long and hard to give our people? They did not have to accept my gift, but they did, and they did it by the thousands. Scholars, Philosophers, and even the common Intaki, felt as if they had risen to a new state of being. You and your kind will be the death of such progress. You will condemn us to never improve ourselves. If you believe in the growth of our people, then let me do my work, and do not interfere. I will not allow a vigilante like you to keep me from helping our people.
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Vorada Kuvakei
Illoren
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Posted - 2007.01.28 01:56:00 -
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Sundari Idama, your sweet words, which flow effortlessly from your poisoned lips, will not blind me as it has others. Your gift causes horribly depression when a person is in withdrawal, and those who become addicted will take it at such a pace, that they no longer live in reality, they are in a constant state of euphoria, and many die as a result. You are a dark and evil woman, you have abused your title and position to fulfill your own desires.
You have organized the small-time drug peddling rabble, causing a greatly increased drug flow to our people, further damaging our future. The Illoren will not allow you and your ilk to continue to poison our people any more. This is your only chance to cease your organization's activities or we shall bring an end to your criminal activities ourselves. |
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Gorion Wassenar
Caldari Tsurokigaarai
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Posted - 2007.01.28 02:15:00 -
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Here's a simple question. Is the final product/ingredients classified as illegal cargo to the local authorities? ----- *results may vary*
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Nolin Riis
Gallente Placid Reborn
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Posted - 2007.01.28 04:00:00 -
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Originally by: Gorion Wassenar Here's a simple question. Is the final product/ingredients classified as illegal cargo to the local authorities?
How's Blue Pill, Crash, Crystal Egg, and Nerve Sticks to name a few? Honestly, I don't think there was a single common street drug that she didn't have enough of to fill up an Iteron. She said she needed them for 'research' but seriously, in that quantity without telling us?
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Mebrithiel Ju'wien
Omerta Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.01.28 05:10:00 -
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Originally by: Nolin Riis She said she needed them for 'research' but seriously, in that quantity without telling us?
You'd be suprised how much drugs test subjects can go through...
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Vendrin
Caldari APEX Unlimited
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Posted - 2007.01.28 06:52:00 -
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Interesting.. Another Kuvakei. _____________________________________
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Nomakai Delateriel
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.01.28 07:38:00 -
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Many drugs have claimed that they were "wanted" or "needed", but in the end any recreational drug has proven, in the end, to bring more harm than good.
For the sake of the Intaki people I hope organisations in the region ***** down on this threat, because this drug sounds dangerous and incredibly addictive. Relive old memories as if they were real, when they're only recollections and no longer true? Nostalgia is dangerous enough without the aid of drugs.
...and no, the irony of me as an Amarr saying this is not lost on me, but while we Amarr remember the past with fondness our interests are always focused on the present and the future.
______________________________________________ -The more it changes, the more it stays the same. Mankind and all its activities. War and Peace, Love and Hate. Ever changing, ever the same. |
Eden Ramani
INTAKI UNION
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Posted - 2007.01.28 08:15:00 -
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Originally by: Nolin Riis
Originally by: Gorion Wassenar Here's a simple question. Is the final product/ingredients classified as illegal cargo to the local authorities?
How's Blue Pill, Crash, Crystal Egg, and Nerve Sticks to name a few? Honestly, I don't think there was a single common street drug that she didn't have enough of to fill up an Iteron. She said she needed them for 'research' but seriously, in that quantity without telling us?
none of those are illegal in Placid, in fact few drugs are illegal in Placid and Syndicate.
Intaki History Tomahawk's CYI movie |
Usagi Tsukino
Caldari APEX Unlimited
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Posted - 2007.01.28 08:50:00 -
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Just because something isn't illegal doesn't make it good for people. Drugs being fed to the people under false pretenses, especially by someone who holds such a high position of moral authority over the Intaki, is terrible.
If IU had any interest in the Intaki people instead of just wanting to pew pew the Fedos, you'd see that.
I'd even think the Star Fraction can appericate what Placid Reborn and Vendrin did, as this drug would have created a state of dependency by Sundari Idama; the Intaki people instead of facing and dealing with the realities of their existance would be spoonfed this drug freeing them from such realities and forcing them to be dependent on Sundari Idama for more and more.
That's worse than ANY thing the Fed could do, and would place the Intaki people under the control of a few; namely Sundari Idama. ---
Usagi Tsukino APEX Unlimited; Security Division |
Gorion Wassenar
Caldari Tsurokigaarai
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Posted - 2007.01.28 09:34:00 -
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Does that illegality of those items have more to do with the fact that much of Intaki space is lowsec or actually not considered illicit cargo? There is a difference between it actually being illegal and CONCORD/local police forces not enforcing the law. ----- *results may vary*
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GoGo Yubari
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.01.28 10:23:00 -
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Originally by: Gorion Wassenar Does that illegality of those items have more to do with the fact that much of Intaki space is lowsec or actually not considered illicit cargo? There is a difference between it actually being illegal and CONCORD/local police forces not enforcing the law.
Indeed. The same Federation laws should apply there, but because of inadequate policing they can't be enforced. The question is who's interests is this serving and who're actually upholding the status quo? I don't believe the answer to that question to be a simple one. The relationship between the Syndicate and the Federation is not clear-cut.
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Tecam Hund
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.01.28 10:50:00 -
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Decision to take or not to take drugs should be a personal responsibility of individual. Yes, this may develop dependency on Idama (as supplier), but so will dependency develop on the law enforcement to prevent the drug circulation. Personal judgment is first and last line of defense against this .
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Usagi Tsukino
Caldari APEX Unlimited
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Posted - 2007.01.28 14:02:00 -
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Originally by: Tecam Hund Decision to take or not to take drugs should be a personal responsibility of individual. Yes, this may develop dependency on Idama (as supplier), but so will dependency develop on the law enforcement to prevent the drug circulation.
I agree with you to a point, except that when something like this comes from someone as revered as an Idama it would be hard for the Intaki to decide whether or not it's in their best interests to take this drug.
Originally by: Tecam Hund Personal judgment is first and last line of defense against this .
Personal judgement was used by Placid Reborn and Vendrin. They did what they believe was the right and just thing to do. ---
Usagi Tsukino APEX Unlimited; Security Division |
Kehmor
Caldari PAK
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Posted - 2007.01.28 14:26:00 -
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welcome to hell
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Phantomas
Gallente INTAKI UNION
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Posted - 2007.01.29 02:18:00 -
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We will investigate this matter.. we have sent messages to those involved. [2006.04.30 19:30:23] Vremaja Idama > For it is by men of action as yourself that we as Intaki will find our way into the future. |
Gorion Wassenar
Caldari Tsurokigaarai
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Posted - 2007.01.29 07:36:00 -
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Those who wear white as a sign of purity oftentimes use it conceal the darkest black in themselves is a proverb I once heard. After all, we're all just human. ----- *results may vary*
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Romanov DeBeers
Gallente Placid Reborn
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Posted - 2007.01.29 12:30:00 -
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Originally by: Eden Ramani
none of those are illegal in Placid, in fact few drugs are illegal in Placid and Syndicate.
This is actually not correct. Placid is Federation space so most drugs are illegal. However, the lack of Federation control in most of Placid allows drugs to be shipped without the authorities stepping in. Drugs moved through Stacmon would incur the interest of customs.
It is not Placid Reborn's remit to apply Federation laws but we will protect the Intaki people. These drugs were destined for Intaki and Euphoric Gaze did not convince us that their new drug Rise would benefit our people.
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Eden Ramani
INTAKI UNION
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Posted - 2007.01.29 19:41:00 -
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Originally by: Romanov DeBeers
Originally by: Eden Ramani
none of those are illegal in Placid, in fact few drugs are illegal in Placid and Syndicate.
This is actually not correct. Placid is Federation space so most drugs are illegal. However, the lack of Federation control in most of Placid allows drugs to be shipped without the authorities stepping in. Drugs moved through Stacmon would incur the interest of customs.
It is not Placid Reborn's remit to apply Federation laws but we will protect the Intaki people. These drugs were destined for Intaki and Euphoric Gaze did not convince us that their new drug Rise would benefit our people.
I disagree, looking at the items it shows legality as greater than 0.4. Just like these items are not illegal in Syndicate these items are not illegal in most of Placid or the system they(you) were in. That is how i see it, possibly a clarification would be in order?
This may have been a hostile drug or it may have been an aid in attaining an altered state of mind for use through Ida. You donĘt know, you didnĘt know. Still there is no evidence one way or the other so far except hearsay and commentary.
Intaki History Tomahawk's CYI movie |
Jon Engel
APEX Unlimited
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Posted - 2007.01.30 17:59:00 -
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If they were legal you could be able to sell them on the open market. YOur allowed to sell them in Syndicate on the open market, not anywhere in Federation Space is any Narcotic legal.
Your argument is flawed, read the legality description under Gallente Federation, idiot.
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Eden Ramani
INTAKI UNION
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Posted - 2007.01.30 20:30:00 -
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Originally by: Jon Engel If they were legal you could be able to sell them on the open market. YOur allowed to sell them in Syndicate on the open market, not anywhere in Federation Space is any Narcotic legal.
Your argument is flawed, read the legality description under Gallente Federation, idiot.
I disagree narcotics are illegal in most of placid just as they are not at all illegal in any of syndicate.
You know I've noticed twice now you and your caldari master have used the term "idiot" when you end your comments. You are hostile little men.
If you are spoiling for a fight then please come out from under the protection of the Black Rabbits. I have no interest in fighting them but I certainly have an interest in fighting a traitor and attempted Idama assassin the likes of which populate your Federation front corporation, Apex Unlimited.
Eden Ramani Follower of the Warrior Path
Intaki History Tomahawk's CYI movie |
Tomahawk Bliss
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Posted - 2007.01.30 21:52:00 -
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Edited by: Tomahawk Bliss on 30/01/2007 21:54:35
Apex Unlimited are not a threat to anyone or anything, yes they are loud mouths, yes they are annoying but their military capacity is still greatly reduced. Combined with their escape orientated tactics they are of little threat to anyone.
We received communication from Project Gemini, who we are friendly towards, that they attacked Apex Unlimited and were quickly then counter-attacked by Black RabbitĘs alliance.
Worse still this has protected an Apex unlimited Starbase structure which was slated to be removed. IĘd be curious to know why Black rabbits hadnĘt taken down the Apex POS yet but either way whatever symbiotic relationship the various non-patriot caldari/gurista groups have is of no interest to Intaki Union at this time.
So Long as Apex Unlimited keeps their hostility to petty forum snipes they will be spared. They are of insufficient threat to waste the time and effort of hunting them down.
Conversely Black Rabbits could potentially be a significant threat to the Intaki movement. We are concerned they are defending Federation Supporters (such as Apex Unlimited) but their past efforts at undermining the Federalist Pod pilotĘs attempt to impose their domination on Placid has earned them respect and the benefit of the doubt from Intaki Union.
Perhaps a conflict with Apex will arise, perhaps not. I know IĘd certainly enjoy killing a few of Vendrin and JonĘs clones and undoubtedly they would relish the chance to consign my hide to the cold vacuum of space.
Gogo Yubari> You can't destroy your enemy with the power of thought alone like many forum-warriors seem to think. GLBTA Channel |
Milonia
Caldari APEX Unlimited
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Posted - 2007.01.30 23:50:00 -
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Edited by: Milonia on 30/01/2007 23:48:26 I am just as confused as you on why the Black Rabbits are coming to our aid. We are at war with the Black Rabbits and still are. Then Project Gemini declared war on us. Then a few days later, the Black Rabbits decalre war on Project Gemini.
My assumption is that the Black Rabbits are NOT, I repeat, NOT coming to our "aid" as you put it; but in fact Project Gemini has quite a few enemies.
That is your perogative to assume APEX Unlimited is of little threat to anyone. It is our perogative to prove you wrong.
"One who ignores the unwanted sapling may be faced with a mighty oak to move later." ============================== Milonia Combat Pilot of the ACV Acadia (Moa) I'm new so be nice!
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