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Reluctant Deity
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2016.02.02 21:21:32 -
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Black Pedro wrote:Reluctant Deity wrote:The whole tear shtick is pretty tired. I'd hardly say that my saying he was a waste of money is crying. He wasn't effective acting for me or against me (as evidenced by his crumbling alliance).
Vote for whomever you wish, but would you care to make a wager on the side?
Why would I want to bet on the outcome of the CSM election? I just want to hear what Tora has to say. I don't care about your petty, in-game dealings with this candidate or any other. If he crossed you, beat you, made you sad or whatever, it has no bearing on what Tora can bring to the table as a CSM member. Please save your pouting for other threads more appropriate to such sentiments. This one is about what experience and platform Tora can offer to the community. If you have nothing to offer but innuendo and sore feelings, it might be best to just remain silent. You want me to be silent while you prop him up? That's rich.
His in game behavior, good or bad has complete bearing here. If he failed to properly execute a WD that I paid for how can I expect him to do what he says as a member of the CSM.
Your argument is null and void sir.
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Nitshe Razvedka
State War Academy Caldari State
405
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Posted - 2016.02.02 22:04:31 -
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Tora Bushido wrote:Last year was my first attempt, still a bit green and less connection with the Eve player base. Main reason I have been more active on twitter and #tweetfleet slack this year. D. Ganking takes effort and skills and anti gankers have options to not get ganked, but I want to see more pvp fights between them. Currently gankers undock, insta warp and when you see them again is on the target. No time to even have a small chance of shooting them. Not sure how to improve this yet, but it's something to look in to. Bumping I am fine with too, unless you continue this to long. Bumping a freighter for 10-15 minutes is just annoying. Bumping preparing to gank, fine. Maybe someway to have a max bump time.... just a brainwave. BUMP FATIGUE !
Ganking is a Top-of-mind-issue for Highsec carebears.
Carebears make up the majority of voters, come up with answers before the vote. Even HoleySheet1 has answers for gankers, poach his ideas.
You are deliberately avoiding this issue and it will cost you votes.
Thieving pirates discuss INTEGRITY; Anarchist gankers give us LAWS; and Whoring merc's cry then blow off clients with INSULTS.
Up is down and down is up in the C&P Forum.
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Anya Klibor
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
858
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Posted - 2016.02.03 00:02:01 -
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Noragen Neirfallas wrote:Bumblefck wrote:Noragen Neirfallas wrote:he doesn't panda to Thank the Lord! Imagine if he pandered to pandas... We would have pandered pandas. Now if we took the pandered pandas to a beauty salon...
Then you'd have pampered pandered pandas!
Leadership is something you learn. Maybe one day, you'll learn that.
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Tora Bushido
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective
3173
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Posted - 2016.02.03 14:26:18 -
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Nitshe Razvedka wrote:Ganking is a Top-of-mind-issue for Highsec carebears. Carebears make up the majority of voters, come up with answers before the vote. Even HoleySheet1 has answers for gankers, poach his ideas. You are deliberately avoiding this issue and it will cost you votes. You should know me well enough by now to know I am pretty direct in my communication. Holeysheet1 is a troll, even in his CSM post. And that's a big no-no to me. The CSM is a serious matter. And also everyone here who replies and complains about how evil I am as Tora from the Marmite Collective, please dont vote for me, as you still dont see the difference between real life and role play.
And I'm not going to tell gankers I will make Eve a ganking heaven, just as I wont tell Anti-gankers I will be your carebear saviour. What I am saying is, both sides should have options in Eve to do damage to the others side, IF they put enough effort in it.
DELETE THE WEAK, ADAPT OR DIE !
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode : Removed an accidental lock. Nothing happened. whistles innocently
Tora Bushido : Meta Gaming Level VII, Psycho Warfare Level X, Smack Talk Level VII.
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Reluctant Deity
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
4
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Posted - 2016.02.03 16:28:29 -
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Tora Bushido wrote:What I am saying is, both sides should have options in Eve to do damage to the others side, IF they put enough effort in it. You are so misguided. Your so-called carebears have no desire to "do damage" to anyone.
That is so two dimensional and near-sighted of you.
The non pvp players have no desire to hurt others. They just want to play the game in their own way. To create is something you just don't understand. You force your way of gameplay onto others and think it's funny to be destructive.
Like most criminals, you're too lazy to work for what want. It's just easier (and second nature) to take it from someone who did.
And now you're asking carebears to vote for you...not gonna happen.
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Nitshe Razvedka
State War Academy Caldari State
420
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Posted - 2016.02.03 16:43:42 -
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Tora Bushido wrote:Nitshe Razvedka wrote:Ganking is a Top-of-mind-issue for Highsec carebears. Carebears make up the majority of voters, come up with answers before the vote. Even HoleySheet1 has answers for gankers, poach his ideas. You are deliberately avoiding this issue and it will cost you votes. You should know me well enough by now to know I am pretty direct in my communication. Holeysheet1 is a troll, even in his CSM post. And that's a big no-no to me. The CSM is a serious matter. And also everyone here who replies and complains about how evil I am as Tora from the Marmite Collective, please dont vote for me, as you still dont see the difference between real life and role play. And I'm not going to tell gankers I will make Eve a ganking heaven, just as I wont tell Anti-gankers I will be your carebear saviour. What I am saying is, both sides should have options in Eve to do damage to the others side, IF they put enough effort in it.
1. The key feature of ganking is a profit motive. There is NO profit motive in anti-ganking.
2. The game mechanics favour a cluster of ganking ships all insta warping from station to a bookmark/tgt. Making it neigh impossible to interdict.
3. AK freighter pilots cant warp anywhere when bumped by one or more machs.
Combine these three points together an you have a MIGHTY unbalanced hisec no matter what whiney 'entitled' gankers say.
If ANY candidate addresses these three points a block of carebear votes will follow.
Thieving pirates discuss INTEGRITY; Anarchist gankers give us LAWS; and Whoring merc's cry then blow off clients with INSULTS.
Up is down and down is up in the C&P Forum.
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Nitshe Razvedka
State War Academy Caldari State
424
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Posted - 2016.02.03 17:20:31 -
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Come on Tora, have to make some compromises in politics. Don't want one of those null sec types winning ( because their alliance votes in blocks like sheep).
Thieving pirates discuss INTEGRITY; Anarchist gankers give us LAWS; and Whoring merc's cry then blow off clients with INSULTS.
Up is down and down is up in the C&P Forum.
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Tora Bushido
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective
3175
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Posted - 2016.02.03 17:54:15 -
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Nitshe Razvedka wrote:1. The key feature of ganking is a profit motive. There is NO profit motive in anti-ganking.
2. The game mechanics favour a cluster of ganking ships all insta warping from station to a bookmark/tgt. Making it neigh impossible to interdict.
3. AK freighter pilots cant warp anywhere when bumped by one or more machs.
Combine these three points together an you have a MIGHTY unbalanced hisec no matter what whiney 'entitled' gankers say. 1) Ganking can also be used to get revenge and industrial warfare for example. 2) I agree, see my above posts for change. 3) I agree, see above posts for change.
Improve option 2 and 3 and you'll have a nice balanced feature in Eve.
DELETE THE WEAK, ADAPT OR DIE !
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode : Removed an accidental lock. Nothing happened. whistles innocently
Tora Bushido : Meta Gaming Level VII, Psycho Warfare Level X, Smack Talk Level VII.
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Reluctant Deity
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
4
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Posted - 2016.02.03 19:54:15 -
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Tora Bushido wrote:1) Ganking can also be used to get revenge and industrial warfare for example. Really? How?
An industrial pilot is strolling through HS in a freighter when a 30-man fleet of -10's descend on him (after 15-60 minutes of being bumped by a Machariel) and destroy his ship and probably his pod.
You think he can (with no pvp skills) go track down all 30 pilots and gank them one at a time?
THAT'S RIDICULOUS!
*No one believes that you're going to try and fix the ganker favored mechanics.
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Tora Bushido
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective
3175
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Posted - 2016.02.03 20:14:41 -
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Reluctant Deity wrote:You are so misguided. Your so-called carebears have no desire to "do damage" to anyone. That is so two dimensional and near-sighted of you. You dont have to like it, but it's part of Eve Online. It would be the same as me telling all nullsec players, we need to remove nullsec, just because I dont like it. So wonder yourself, what the core of the problem is.
Me, jumping through a nullsec gate in my freighter, suddenly 100 men alliance waiting for me... In your mind, we should probably forbid the 100 men alliance, because I stand no chance against such a big force of power. In my mind, I should have played smarter and used a jump freighter, web alts and/or scouts, joined an alliance blue to them.
Eve is a game of risk, no one is safe, anywhere. If you can not handle that, you're doing it wrong.
DELETE THE WEAK, ADAPT OR DIE !
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode : Removed an accidental lock. Nothing happened. whistles innocently
Tora Bushido : Meta Gaming Level VII, Psycho Warfare Level X, Smack Talk Level VII.
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Reluctant Deity
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
5
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Posted - 2016.02.03 20:53:54 -
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Tora, honestly that argument has gotten so old. You are saying that HS isn't safe so get over it, but you want us to vote for you so you can change something that you don't have a problem with in the first place.
Pick a side.
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Tora Bushido
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective
3176
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Posted - 2016.02.03 22:01:14 -
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Reluctant Deity wrote: Tora, honestly that argument has gotten so old. You are saying that HS isn't safe so get over it, but you want us to vote for you so you can change something that you don't have a problem with in the first place.
Pick a side.
I have always picked the side of Eve Online's balanced content. You get the most fun, when both sides have equal opportunities. Currently I think attackers have more then the defenders. This is what I want to rebalance.
DELETE THE WEAK, ADAPT OR DIE !
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode : Removed an accidental lock. Nothing happened. whistles innocently
Tora Bushido : Meta Gaming Level VII, Psycho Warfare Level X, Smack Talk Level VII.
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Nitshe Razvedka
State War Academy Caldari State
426
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Posted - 2016.02.04 00:45:16 -
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Well I for one encourage hisec to turn out to vote, and vote often.
Thieving pirates discuss INTEGRITY; Anarchist gankers give us LAWS; and Whoring merc's cry then blow off clients with INSULTS.
Up is down and down is up in the C&P Forum.
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Reluctant Deity
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
6
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Posted - 2016.02.04 03:03:46 -
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Tora Bushido wrote:I have always picked the side of Eve Online's balanced content. You get the most fun, when both sides have equal opportunities. Currently I think attackers have more then the defenders. This is what I want to rebalance. There you go again limiting Eve to two sides. Do you live in a society where there are only two sides? I doubt it.
You say, "DELETE THE WEAK, ADAPT OR DIE !".
I say, "Defend the weak, for together we are stronger".
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Tora Bushido
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective
3179
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Posted - 2016.02.04 09:59:39 -
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Reluctant Deity wrote:There you go again limiting Eve to two sides. Do you live in a society where there are only two sides? I doubt it.
You say, "DELETE THE WEAK, ADAPT OR DIE !".
I say, "Defend the weak, for together we are stronger". We were discussing ganking and yes, then there are only two sides. No need to bring in irrelevant societies in to the discussion. And you can say anything you want. If you want people to take you seriously, then also try to respect other peoples opinions. Have a nice day
DELETE THE WEAK, ADAPT OR DIE !
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode : Removed an accidental lock. Nothing happened. whistles innocently
Tora Bushido : Meta Gaming Level VII, Psycho Warfare Level X, Smack Talk Level VII.
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Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
10582
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Posted - 2016.02.04 12:54:20 -
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Reluctant Deity wrote:Tora Bushido wrote:I have always picked the side of Eve Online's balanced content. You get the most fun, when both sides have equal opportunities. Currently I think attackers have more then the defenders. This is what I want to rebalance. There you go again limiting Eve to two sides. Do you live in a society where there are only two sides? I doubt it. You say, "DELETE THE WEAK, ADAPT OR DIE !". I say, "Defend the weak, for together we are stronger".
You know, your argument might have more weight behind it if you chose to post with your main, instead of hiding behind a 'consequenceless' alt.
Got a HoleySheet1 corpse? I'll buy it for 200m!
Bumble's Space Log
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Reluctant Deity
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
6
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Posted - 2016.02.04 15:48:20 -
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Bumblefck wrote:You know, your argument might have more weight behind it if you chose to post with your main, instead of hiding behind a 'consequenceless' alt. Funny, to this day many people don't believe that William Shakespeare wrote all those great plays.
To post on my main would mean an instant declaration of war from the marshmallows.
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Nitshe Razvedka
State War Academy Caldari State
428
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Posted - 2016.02.04 21:00:17 -
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Not one to favour one C&P associate over another, another bump for another day on the campaign trail.
Thieving pirates discuss INTEGRITY; Anarchist gankers give us LAWS; and Whoring merc's cry then blow off clients with INSULTS.
Up is down and down is up in the C&P Forum.
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HoleySheet1
Renegade Armada. What Squad
799
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Posted - 2016.02.04 21:37:37 -
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Good luck tora, I haven't gone over your campaign but maybe you'll get in this time. Imagine us both getting in? Would I need a Kevlar vest? Just kidding.
Bon chance to a good administrator, even though your arrogance negates that to a degree.
Top Amarr killer of all times:
https://zkillboard.com/system/30002187/topalltime
Running for CSM 2016. Check my thread in the CSM section of the forums. Make your vote count!
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Noragen Neirfallas
Rabble Inc. Rabble Alliance
2621
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Posted - 2016.02.04 21:41:44 -
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HoleySheet1 wrote:, even though your arrogance negates that to a degree. Quoted for irony
Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment
Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode favourite ISD
'"****station games" - Sun Tzu' - Ralph King-Griffin
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Noragen Neirfallas
Rabble Inc. Rabble Alliance
2621
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Posted - 2016.02.04 21:45:08 -
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Reluctant Deity wrote:Bumblefck wrote:You know, your argument might have more weight behind it if you chose to post with your main, instead of hiding behind a 'consequenceless' alt. Funny, to this day many people don't believe that William Shakespeare wrote all those great plays. To post on my main would mean an instant declaration of war from the marshmallows. I always felt if you can't own up to what you're saying perhaps you shouldn't be saying it
Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment
Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode favourite ISD
'"****station games" - Sun Tzu' - Ralph King-Griffin
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Reluctant Deity
6
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Posted - 2016.02.04 22:00:03 -
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Noragen Neirfallas wrote: In real life I agree with this. In a game where people are know to be extremely petty, not so much.
But hey, keep propping up your homies by trying to shoot down valid concerns.
Anyway, is there any proof of the CSM actually changing anything that the player base has asked for?
And by player base, I mean across the board.
~A very small group of players drown out the voices of the masses~
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Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
10617
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Posted - 2016.02.04 22:11:29 -
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Reluctant Deity wrote:Bumblefck wrote:You know, your argument might have more weight behind it if you chose to post with your main, instead of hiding behind a 'consequenceless' alt. Funny, to this day many people don't believe that William Shakespeare wrote all those great plays. To post on my main would mean an instant declaration of war from the marshmallows.
It's fantastic that you compare yourself to Shakespeare, and it's at this point that you lose any and all credibility that you might've had.
Got a HoleySheet1 corpse? I'll buy it for 200m!
Bumble's Space Log
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Lykouleon
Future Corps Sleeper Social Club
1702
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Posted - 2016.02.04 22:31:53 -
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Tora Bushido wrote:* First of all, I don't want to be someone who is only complaining about things. If you complain about things, you should run for CSM and try to help out. Complaining is very easy, the CSM is hard work.
Running for CSM you do as a person, not a character you play in Eve. In real life I help people, in Eve I want to be evil. Don't mix them up when you vote, as the real life player wants be in the CSM. You've got my vote for making these statements.
Reluctant Deity wrote:Anyway, is there any proof of the CSM actually changing anything that the player base has asked for? Not to de-rail this thread too far, but yes, there is plenty of proof of topics that the CSM and/or members of the CSM have advocated for being implemented by CCP. The CSM are not game developers; they're an advisory body. The actual development cycle and implementation of 'changes' is completely at the discretion of CCP. However, that doesn't mean the CSM doesn't have input into pushing for priorities for CCP to focus on and by assisting CCP in fleshing out ideas. Proof may be found by using this.
Lykouleon > CYNO ME CLOSER so I can hit them with my sword
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Reluctant Deity
6
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Posted - 2016.02.04 23:07:53 -
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Bumblefck wrote:It's fantastic that you compare yourself to Shakespeare, and it's at this point that you lose any and all credibility that you might've had. You missed that one by a mile friend.
I was merely saying that the content is what should be weighed.
"To be or not to be, that is the question."
~A very small group of players drown out the voices of the masses~
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Nitshe Razvedka
State War Academy Caldari State
429
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Posted - 2016.02.05 06:06:06 -
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Keep posting with your alt Deity, for all the things I have said about CODE I would be perma-deced.
Alts and the forums are part of Eve so don't change your game play to suit others.
Another bump for hisec.
Thieving pirates discuss INTEGRITY; Anarchist gankers give us LAWS; and Whoring merc's cry then blow off clients with INSULTS.
Up is down and down is up in the C&P Forum.
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Tora Bushido
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective
3181
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Posted - 2016.02.05 08:21:45 -
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Reluctant Deity wrote:Bumblefck wrote:You know, your argument might have more weight behind it if you chose to post with your main, instead of hiding behind a 'consequenceless' alt. Funny, to this day many people don't believe that William Shakespeare wrote all those great plays. To post on my main would mean an instant declaration of war from the marshmallows. On any other post then this you would be right (as thats what Tora does), but like I said before, this is a serious CSM post where we should be able to seriously discuss subjects. As a CSM you should be able to handle disagreements. If you cant, you shouldnt run for CSM.
DELETE THE WEAK, ADAPT OR DIE !
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode : Removed an accidental lock. Nothing happened. whistles innocently
Tora Bushido : Meta Gaming Level VII, Psycho Warfare Level X, Smack Talk Level VII.
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Captain2Bun
Hek Squad What Squad
9
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Posted - 2016.02.05 08:41:57 -
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I would like to know your thoughts on the bounty system. I think the fix presented a few years ago was rushed and temporary and the whole system is overdue a rework. In my opinion kill rights work, but I think they are backwards. A player should be able to issue a kill right on a player for a reward to the person completing the kill. What are your thoughts on this?
I agree with your sentiments on bumping, though bump fatigue is a little extreme :) I think MJD's for haulers would be interesting.
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Tora Bushido
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective
3181
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Posted - 2016.02.05 08:59:30 -
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I've had so many thoughts about the bounty system since they first started it and yes, it never really worked. Outside highsec people often fly small ships or pods, so getting 20% of the killmail is not worth it and in highsec there are so many people abusing it to scam players, that even if you see a killright, you often need to long to check it all before you activate it. Why would you need to buy a kill right at all, you're hunting down someone for someone else aka working.
Offering a reward on a certain player via a killright makes more sense. That also solves the problem of war deccing an entire alliance/corp just because you have issues with 1 guy.
Yeh, bumping fatigue is a bit to much, was just kidding. MJD's for haulers. That would make ganking way harder. I'm ok with harder, unless it makes it almost impossible to gank, then it would be unbalanced again towards the other side. But yeh, something to look into to.
DELETE THE WEAK, ADAPT OR DIE !
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode : Removed an accidental lock. Nothing happened. whistles innocently
Tora Bushido : Meta Gaming Level VII, Psycho Warfare Level X, Smack Talk Level VII.
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Reluctant Deity
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Posted - 2016.02.05 17:14:41 -
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At least bring back the criteria that a pilot has to have bad sec status before you can place a bounty on him/her. Perhaps have another mechanic for placing a "hit" on someone.
Bounty: an amount of money given to someone as a reward for catching a criminal
To put a big red, "WANTED" on someone implies that they've committed a criminal act.
~A very small group of players drown out the voice of the masses~
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