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Moonlit Raid
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2016.01.31 09:09:50 -
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Personally I'm much more likely to use this feature to reallocate wasted SP from my old toons, skills that I trained through lack of experience and knowledge of the game, and transfer it to my much lower skilled toons to maximise it's usefulness.
The only other option really is to cash in on your wasted SP. So; what are you gonna do?
If brute force isn't working, you're just not using enough.
Please Note: Any advice given comes with the caveat that nothing will be suitable for every situation.
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Do Little
Virgin Plc Evictus.
260
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Posted - 2016.01.31 23:29:48 -
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After consolidating accounts I ended up with 2 Exhumer pilots on the same account ~2 million wasted SP that can be converted into 1.6 million useful SP if the price is right. That's basically the same SP I can get with a month of multiple character training and I am not willing to pay a premium for instant gratification. So, I am watching with interest but will will decide whether or not to participate when CCP publishes the price for the injectors. |
Sugilite
Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde
29
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Posted - 2016.02.03 10:53:03 -
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I've heard, and I plan as well (depending how much this stuff costs either in $ or isk), that many pvp oriented pilots are planning to turn this into a way to get some quick isk making skills. Consider a 20mill SP PVP pilot would be able to use a single injector and be able to grab T2 gas harvesters and put the rest of the points in planetary interaction, or in pvp skills. You can grab some of the stuff you feel bad about making your character train, even though it may really improve your overall experience (t2 gas harvesters could take up to a week if not mapped for Mem/Int, what pvp pilot wants to do that? Unless they have all the pvp skills they could want already.) |
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs
5716
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Posted - 2016.02.04 00:24:23 -
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I have two low-skill alts that are not worth selling, and that I really don't need. |
Arkos Orisos
State Protectorate Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2016.02.04 17:21:18 -
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I'm going to suck all those useless mining and reprocessing skills out of my head and put them somewhere useful. |
Tavari Minrathos
Honey Badgers R US
15
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Posted - 2016.02.04 18:21:46 -
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Depends largely on price. If injectors are within acceptable (to me) price range I'm planning on injecting quite a few to finish up some longer skill trains so I will be ready to move to a ships focused remap when mine becomes available next month.
If I feel its well overpriced...we'll cross that bridge when we get there. |
Oodini
Discoverings SpaceMonkey's Alliance
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Posted - 2016.02.04 18:38:56 -
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What do you all think a "acceptable" price is?
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Cidanel Afuran
Static-Noise Upholders
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Posted - 2016.02.04 19:10:57 -
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I'm going to start flying T3s more and use them to instantly re-train level 5 subsystems when I explode |
Tavari Minrathos
Honey Badgers R US
15
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Posted - 2016.02.04 22:28:51 -
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Oodini wrote:What do you all think a "acceptable" price is?
250 to 350m range. Though that will largely depend on what Aurum price CCP sets for the extractors. If those are overpriced (again, in my estimation) then I won't be using this feature in all probility. |
Oodini
Discoverings SpaceMonkey's Alliance
5
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Posted - 2016.02.04 23:16:51 -
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Tavari Minrathos wrote:Oodini wrote:What do you all think a "acceptable" price is?
250 to 350m range. Though that will largely depend on what Aurum price CCP sets for the extractors. If those are overpriced (again, in my estimation) then I won't be using this feature in all probility.
I honesty believe we are going to be talking the same Isk as it is for a Plex....But that's just what i think.....
Thanks for your Reply tho...
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Tavari Minrathos
Honey Badgers R US
15
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Posted - 2016.02.05 00:06:17 -
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What would be the point of it to get at best 500k SP for a PLEX if you can just train for 1-1.5m SP for the same RL $$. |
Sheeth Athonille
Rabid Dogz Mining The Bastion
74
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Posted - 2016.02.05 01:10:06 -
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Tavari Minrathos wrote:What would be the point of it to get at best 500k SP for a PLEX if you can just train for 1-1.5m SP for the same RL $$.
People are impatient. |
Moonlit Raid
State War Academy Caldari State
283
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Posted - 2016.02.05 15:17:46 -
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I'm also in two minds of the following situation: moving SP around on the same character who is well above the 80 million SP threshold. There's two ways to think of it. I'm losing a **** load of SP by doing so, or, it's dead SP where it is currently sat anyway. Am I better using the injectors tweaking bit by bit my mains or pumping my tiny toons to the eyeballs?
A judgement call only I can make in my individual cases I guess.
If brute force isn't working, you're just not using enough.
Please Note: Any advice given comes with the caveat that nothing will be suitable for every situation.
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Faenir Antollare
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
485
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Posted - 2016.02.05 17:30:16 -
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Cidanel Afuran wrote:I'm going to start flying T3s more and use them to instantly re-train level 5 subsystems when I explode
Much the same for me too, Sp insurance against any T3 losses my stable incurs, other than that I doubt I will inject much elsewhere as my alts are all basically where they need to be and would not really benefit due to the diminishing returns on moderately skilled chars.
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Oodini
Discoverings SpaceMonkey's Alliance
5
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Posted - 2016.02.05 20:49:45 -
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Well the Price is up on CCP Twitter
Better than i thought....
Number of Skill Extractors
1 = 900 aum 5 = 4499 aum 10 = 7999 aum
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Renfus
Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde
23
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Posted - 2016.02.08 08:31:21 -
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Personally I'm never going to use sp extractors to shuffle skill points around.. It's a waste of money and skill points.
They should have implemented sp remapping , available like once a year..
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Nat Silverguard
Aideron Robotics
265
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Posted - 2016.02.08 09:22:30 -
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Renfus wrote: They should have implemented sp remapping , available like once a year..
nah,
decision -> consequences
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Moonlit Raid
State War Academy Caldari State
284
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Posted - 2016.02.15 08:52:15 -
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Renfus wrote:Personally I'm never going to use sp extractors to shuffle skill points around.. It's a waste of money and skill points.
They should have implemented sp remapping , available like once a year..
I totally disagree, so much I think the opposite of what you said is true. Skills you don't use on a toon are wasted by them remaining on that toon.
If brute force isn't working, you're just not using enough.
Please Note: Any advice given comes with the caveat that nothing will be suitable for every situation.
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N00B-SAIB0T
MK Financial
24
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Posted - 2016.02.16 21:26:39 -
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I did this weekend what I planned to do when they first announced this whole thing.
Extracted 34.5 million SPs out of my old main and brought him down to exactly 5,500,001 SPs and then bio-massed it. Took 65 or so Skill Injectors and focused he hell out of this character. Left with 5 Skill Injectors to use another time.
Total cost was 19.5 billion ISK or so.
I do have another character that I could probably extract another 10-15 million SPs from but I don't need them right now so I'll wait. |
Moonlit Raid
State War Academy Caldari State
284
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Posted - 2016.02.17 14:11:54 -
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Just reading what you described, I kind of see that as a "name change."
If brute force isn't working, you're just not using enough.
Please Note: Any advice given comes with the caveat that nothing will be suitable for every situation.
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N00B-SAIB0T
MK Financial
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Posted - 2016.02.17 17:56:34 -
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Moonlit Raid wrote:Just reading what you described, I kind of see that as a "name change."
My old main's standings were awful. Years of doing missions for Amarr left me with awful standings against the other two factions to the point where entering there space killed me and fixing it was too much effort.
Plus the fact that skill training was all over the place as I experimented with a variety of different things when I was new and then abandoned those activities over the years.
I was getting roughly 10 billion ISK quotes for a potential character sale for 40 million SPs. Canceled that idea the moment they announced this feature back in October.
I'll probably train up new characters for selling off on the Character Bazar now with the free slot.
This skill feature solved like 3 problems for me. |
little bo
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2016.02.18 23:58:43 -
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I think toon value has decreased on bazaar - its a shame to see so many toons being sold to be sucked dry, i think it will slowly change the game more then ppl think, to be honest i believe the only toon worth getting hold on are ones from 2003 - sp as low as possible - |
Guardian Stella
State War Academy Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2016.02.19 00:10:59 -
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N00B-SAIB0T wrote:I did this weekend what I planned to do when they first announced this whole thing.
Extracted 34.5 million SPs out of my old main and brought him down to exactly 5,500,001 SPs and then bio-massed it. Took 65 or so Skill Injectors and focused he hell out of this character. Left with 5 Skill Injectors to use another time.
Total cost was 19.5 billion ISK or so.
I do have another character that I could probably extract another 10-15 million SPs from but I don't need them right now so I'll wait.
With 5,500,001 SP you can still extract an injector full ;) |
Moonlit Raid
State War Academy Caldari State
284
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Posted - 2016.02.19 01:08:22 -
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little bo wrote:I think toon value has decreased on bazaar - its a shame to see so many toons being sold to be sucked dry, i think it will slowly change the game more then ppl think, to be honest i believe the only toon worth getting hold on are ones from 2003 - sp as low as possible - So let me get this straight, the game will slowly change more, later on, people will think? Bit odd to just stick that bit on the end there.
If brute force isn't working, you're just not using enough.
Please Note: Any advice given comes with the caveat that nothing will be suitable for every situation.
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Dr Caymus
Applied Technologies Inc Agents of Fortune
176
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Posted - 2016.02.21 23:36:25 -
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N00B-SAIB0T wrote:
Extracted 34.5 million SPs out of my old main and brought him down to exactly 5,500,001 SPs and then bio-massed it Total cost was 19.5 billion ISK or so.
As Guardian said, you could have done one more extraction. For clarification, as I've seen this misunderstanding elsewhere, a char can be extracted at 5,500,000, but not less. It can not be depleted to below 5.0 million SP. |
Dr Caymus
Applied Technologies Inc Agents of Fortune
176
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Posted - 2016.02.21 23:38:54 -
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Quote:...to be honest i believe the only toon worth getting hold on are ones from 2003 - sp as low as possible - Find a toon with the "Black Market Trading" skill and you've really got something rare! |
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