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baltec1
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Posted - 2011.12.15 11:08:00 -
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Yes I can see why you would be bitter |
Peace Forgiven
Bioglitch Mining and Salvaging Inc.
3
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Posted - 2011.12.15 11:10:00 -
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lost a hulk 30 min before this downtime also. |
Siigari Kitawa
Push Industries
48
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Posted - 2011.12.15 11:11:00 -
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He asked for names in the OP. You guys are sure dense :rolleyes: Need stuff moved? Push Industries will handle it. Servicing highsec and lowsec - and we do it faster and more reliably than anyone else. Ingame channel: PUSHX |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
2063
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Posted - 2011.12.15 11:14:00 -
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Peace Forgiven wrote:Quote:By the way, miners are PvPers. hmm might wanna rephrase that Not really, no. Why would I?
Mining is PvP through and through. No-one is interested in the minerals you mine except other players.
Quote:im not a PvPer [lists a number of PvP activities] You know that GÇ£PvPGÇ¥ stands for Player vs. Player, right? GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |
Arcathra
Technodyne Ltd.
20
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Posted - 2011.12.15 11:15:00 -
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Peace Forgiven wrote:Freezehunter wrote:Judging by OP's wonderful grammar and spelling, I can safely assume that he is a moron and he deserves getting owned.
All that mining has lowered your IQ to dangerous levels, be thankful people are trying to make you smarter! And he wasnt the one who got ganked, i was, he happens to show a little more about it than i do, but since im here wanting to not die even if i did or didnt have a tank fitted hulk.... there are people who wish to see the fighting/pvp side of ever and those who rather enjoy mining/manu/hauling..... why not just accept the fact that people who want to be left the hell alone should deserve that right when they are paying upwards from $15 up to $135 (how ever much your plans are). i prefer peaceful belts and fun incursions, other then that id like to be left alone and make the most out of my money, without some ganker coming in who wont even salvage my **** (atleast he could do that) becuase concord will be hot on the trail not saving me in the process. That's part of EVE. You have to learn to deal with that. Other miners can, I can, so can you. Just try to... ... fly a Covetor instead of a Hulk (the yield isn't that bad) ... put more tank on your hulk or make it more agile to warp out ... search for a quiet little system away from the typical trade routes ... ... and I'm sure you can find more and less obvious ways to deal with it.
I know that you feel frustrated and that is understandable. Just don't give up, there is always a solution for a problem. |
Peace Forgiven
Bioglitch Mining and Salvaging Inc.
4
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Posted - 2011.12.15 11:21:00 -
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how is it pvp when my corporation and i are mining the belt's with no one around in a dead end system in high sec.... there is no competition, exactly how we like it so we dont have to be in this situation and we are 10j from any of the nearest trade routes
its 1 sided pvp when the other side is really wanting to get their crap done rather than go around screwing people lives all day....
yea there is always a solution for a problem, but why not keep the area's where ppl who want risk get risk, and those who dont want it, get to keep it that way. |
Lors Dornick
Kallisti Industries
91
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Posted - 2011.12.15 11:23:00 -
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Jay Boomer wrote:Ok im calling for a bannen of suicide gankin hulks in high sec it's getting out of hand and needs to stop.... so im going to ask for a petition.. so im askin players that like flying hulks to sign up.. just drop your name and thats it thanks -1/10
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Peace Forgiven
Bioglitch Mining and Salvaging Inc.
4
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Posted - 2011.12.15 11:23:00 -
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anywayas guys, im tired fighting for atleast my corporations right to a 100% peaceful time in eve.... good night, fly safe :) and keep all ur feelings in the thread. |
Darren Corley
Echelon Munitions
0
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Posted - 2011.12.15 11:23:00 -
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Peace Forgiven wrote:how is it pvp when my corporation and i are mining the belt's with no one around in a dead end system in high sec.... there is no competition, exactly how we like it so we dont have to be in this situation and we are 10j from any of the nearest trade routes
its 1 sided pvp when the other side is really wanting to get their crap done rather than go around screwing people lives all day....
yea there is always a solution for a problem, but why not keep the area's where ppl who want risk get risk, and those who dont want it, get to keep it that way.
So you just stockpile the ore and let it rot? |
baltec1
244
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Posted - 2011.12.15 11:26:00 -
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Peace Forgiven wrote:how is it pvp when my corporation and i are mining the belt's with no one around in a dead end system in high sec.... there is no competition, exactly how we like it so we dont have to be in this situation and we are 10j from any of the nearest trade routes
its 1 sided pvp when the other side is really wanting to get their crap done rather than go around screwing people lives all day....
yea there is always a solution for a problem, but why not keep the area's where ppl who want risk get risk, and those who dont want it, get to keep it that way.
Selling the ore is pvp.
Mining the ore before someone else does is pvp.
Getting ganked is pvp
shooting at the kind people cleaning up cans of ore miners clearly do not want is pvp
building a ship and then selling it is pvp.
ect ect.. |
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Lors Dornick
Kallisti Industries
91
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Posted - 2011.12.15 11:33:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Peace Forgiven wrote:who gives a **** about spelling I do. If the OP can't be bothered to express his point, then his point is obviously not worth bothering about. At most, we can re-purpose his thread as a comedy act (because that's what his humorous idea made it to begin with).
While I too can get seriously ticked off by bad spelling and incomprehensible grammar one should remember that not everyone in this game has english as their first language.
The spellchecker in the browser is a good thing, but it's far from a perfect tool.
Grammar and cultural references are harder, esp if your first language isn't germanic.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
2064
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Posted - 2011.12.15 11:34:00 -
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Peace Forgiven wrote:how is it pvp when my corporation and i are mining the belt's with no one around in a dead end system in high sec.... there is no competition No competition?
Then why do you mine if you're not going to use it for anything? Why are you wasting time when you could make money (or kills, or whatever) instead? I can only assume that you're trashing it as soon as you dock, because if you're piling it up to see who has the biggest pile, we're back into competition territory againGǪ
Quote:its 1 sided pvp when the other side is really wanting to get their crap done rather than go around screwing people lives all day.... GǪand in trying to get your crap done before you get blown up, you've made it two-sided again. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |
Revii Lagoon
The Foreign Legion Test Alliance Please Ignore
4
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Posted - 2011.12.15 11:36:00 -
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CCP be nerfing the suicide gankers =/ they take away the 1 million isk we get back on insurance for our destroyer hordes =( |
Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
135
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Posted - 2011.12.15 11:38:00 -
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not sure if serious ..
Got better proposition ..
All who like to fly hulks.. Lets band together and join some null industrial corp under some known alliance.. And mine, built carriers and supercarriers and profit...
Do what you claim you doing... Do stuff for greater power to ensure victory through supply of combat ships. |
Jint Hikaru
OffWorld Exploration Inc
22
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Posted - 2011.12.15 12:36:00 -
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Peace Forgiven wrote:how is it pvp when my corporation and i are mining the belt's with no one around in a dead end system in high sec.... there is no competition, exactly how we like it so we dont have to be in this situation and we are 10j from any of the nearest trade routes
its 1 sided pvp when the other side is really wanting to get their crap done rather than go around screwing people lives all day....
yea there is always a solution for a problem, but why not keep the area's where ppl who want risk get risk, and those who dont want it, get to keep it that way.
That sure sounds like a nice system.... doesn't seem right that you should be keeping it all to yourselves. I like to mine and explore too, can I come and share it?
If anyone has any intel on the system name, I would sure like to go take a look.
Jint Hikaru - Miner / Salvager / Explorer / SpaceBum In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move. |
Lord Zim
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
295
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Posted - 2011.12.15 12:37:00 -
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ahahahahahaa
haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaaaaaaahahahahaha
please, keep posting about how suicide ganks should be banned |
Dragon Outlaw
Rogue Fleet
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Posted - 2011.12.15 12:53:00 -
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Lord Zim wrote:ahahahahahaa
haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaaaaaaahahahahaha
please, keep posting about how suicide ganks should be banned
What took you so long?
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SmashTech
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
56
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Posted - 2011.12.15 12:58:00 -
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I, TOO, AM A MINER
Specifically, I mine the forums looking for golden threads just like this one. |
Tiger Would
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
47
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Posted - 2011.12.15 13:02:00 -
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Jay Boomer wrote:Ok im calling for a bannen of suicide gankin hulks in high sec it's getting out of hand and needs to stop.... so im going to ask for a petition.. so im askin players that like flying hulks to sign up.. just drop your name and thats it thanks
Common sir, you have got to be kidding!
Fight back or make fun of them trying, embarasse them, what ever.
Take part on the Hillbillageddon contest, anything, dont just sit there.
I am (or rather our group is) in the mining industry trading business. Our pilots train themselves in PvP to defend us or strike back. This is EvE you know.
Be creative, cut out your place in this game, have some balls.
This is what you signed up for, it is not like its a secret or something that people will want to blow your stuff up and probably profit from that indirectly by selling you a new ship. Think man! |
Lord Zim
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
297
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Posted - 2011.12.15 13:15:00 -
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Dragon Outlaw wrote:What took you so long? Company dinner. Sorry. |
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Jiska Ensa
Unour Heavy Industries
33
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Posted - 2011.12.15 13:19:00 -
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Wow. This thread delivers. |
Takseen
University of Caille Gallente Federation
69
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Posted - 2011.12.15 13:31:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Peace Forgiven wrote:how is it pvp when my corporation and i are mining the belt's with no one around in a dead end system in high sec.... there is no competition, exactly how we like it so we dont have to be in this situation and we are 10j from any of the nearest trade routes
its 1 sided pvp when the other side is really wanting to get their crap done rather than go around screwing people lives all day....
yea there is always a solution for a problem, but why not keep the area's where ppl who want risk get risk, and those who dont want it, get to keep it that way. Selling the ore is pvp. Mining the ore before someone else does is pvp. Getting ganked is pvp shooting at the kind people cleaning up cans of ore miners clearly do not want is pvp building a ship and then selling it is pvp. ect ect..
Meh, I get your point, but people never use the term "pvp" in that way outside of these threads. If someone posts in Ships and Modules asking for a "pvp fit Megathron", they're not looking for something to efficiently mine or farm level 4 missions.
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Corina Jarr
Spazzoid Enterprises Purpose Built
98
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Posted - 2011.12.15 13:53:00 -
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I mine in a hulk... when I'm bored. And I am fully against such a proposition.
Think of the poor ice miners who are losing brain cells as they chip away on a mechanic that CCP desperately needs to work on.
Joking aside, suicide ganking is a part of this game, intended and well advertised (as well as anything is). If you don't want to deal with it, you are in the wrong game.
Everything in this game, aside from ship spinning is PvP. |
J Kunjeh
81
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Posted - 2011.12.15 14:07:00 -
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Sorry, but the spelling was so bad I couldn't actually tell what it was that was being said. But I gather it's just this: whiiiiine. "The world as we know it came about through an anomaly (anomou)" (The Gospel of Philip, 1-5)-á |
Scrapyard Bob
EVE University Ivy League
456
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Posted - 2011.12.15 14:10:00 -
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Peace Forgiven wrote: hmm might wanna rephrase that, im not a PvPer, i dont own a single DPS ship since my last missioning one blew up and even then thats PvE...... i fly Logi for incursions and industrial ships/Mining ships for indi/manu.......
Here's a big hint: By announcing to all and sundry that you do not care to PvP in ships and fight back, you have probably just tagged yourself for a larger then usual amount of griefing. People may decide to add you to their contact lists, run locator agents on you when you login, then come visit you in your missions / belts to see whether you're flying something worth ganking.
If you want to survive as a miner in EVE you need to:
- Fit a DC2 (generally means giving up one of your MLUs) - Use tanking rigs instead of cargo rigs - Stay off the beaten path (do not mine along a major travel route). - Avoid systems with more then 20 in local. - Make sure all known gank corps are tagged -5. Maybe tag NPC corps as -5 too. - Fly cheap, fly insured. - Never smack talk in local / private chats. - Don't announce what you're doing to the world and don't give out location intel. - Don't leave combat drones out unless you are killing a NPC rat spawn.
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Opertone
Signal 7 The Jagged Alliance
52
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Posted - 2011.12.15 14:20:00 -
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Hey let's focus Mining not on excavation and time, but rather on prospecting and finding ores.
Let it be very difficult search for precious materials with asteroid composition scanner, before actual extraction can begin. (scan 12 rocks, move scan another 5 - strike omber)
Let it be complicated tracking and scanning of drifting asteroid fields - it will not be possible by bots, so real opportunities of exploration and profit come to care and science friendly capsuleers. (rocks drift across galaxy, some traveling and scientific observation is needed to dertermine systems where rocks may shifted)
New rocks are born everyday as space objects collide and crush, it is that they are moving between star systems and often locate themselves on outer borders of stellar systems gravity wells.
CCP I'll help you revamp it. |
Mai Khumm
Apple Construction Inc Northern Associates.
70
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Posted - 2011.12.15 14:23:00 -
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Posts like this make me wanna gank a hulk... |
RubyPorto
Profoundly Disturbed RED.Legion
148
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Posted - 2011.12.15 14:25:00 -
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Jay Boomer wrote:Ok im calling for a bannen of suicide gankin hulks in high sec it's getting out of hand and needs to stop.... so im going to ask for a petition.. so im askin players that like flying hulks to sign up.. just drop your name and thats it thanks
It's already banned. Ships that shoot other ships in hisec are destroyed very quickly. |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1330
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Posted - 2011.12.15 14:29:00 -
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mining is for chumps and you should be thankful that the gankers are guiding you towards a more dignified profession, say suicide ganking |
xwolfi
1
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Posted - 2011.12.15 14:37:00 -
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I sometimes mine, not in a Hulk but in a retriever. When a griefer try to canbait or gank me I either wait for him to get bored/destroyed, then with my band of noob corpmates we campgate him, show our muscles, get destroyed or destroy them, exchange GFs and laugh a bunch.
I feel like it's how the game should be played if you want to have fun, or you'll be miserable forever in EVE. Too many people see it as some sort of second job and are just too serious about it ! |
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