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Jojo Jackson
Dead Red Eye
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Posted - 2011.12.15 14:45:00 -
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Zevina wrote:Time to change your profession. :D So you want only 00 BOTs to mine for more RMT?
Why the hell can't I fitt capital repairs or shield booster on an Orca ... it's an CAPITAL ship! |
Sharise Dragonstar
Kiss My Assets
0
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Posted - 2011.12.15 14:45:00 -
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You will never convince suicide gankers to stop suicide ganking and anyhow why should they. You just have to hope CCP implement better game mechanics to properly punish them. At the moment there is no mechanic and apart from the loss of a cheap ass frigate or destroyer its just free ISK/kills for the ganker.
Funny thing is if you post a suggestion the suicide ganker tears and cries of how unfair it is is as funny to carebears as miners complaining about being ganked is to suicide gankers. |
Jojo Jackson
Dead Red Eye
14
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Posted - 2011.12.15 14:48:00 -
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Scrapyard Bob wrote: - Fit a DC2 (generally means giving up one of your MLUs) - Use tanking rigs instead of cargo rigs - Stay off the beaten path (do not mine along a major travel route). - Avoid systems with more then 20 in local. - Make sure all known gank corps are tagged -5. Maybe tag NPC corps as -5 too. - Fly cheap, fly insured. - Never smack talk in local / private chats. - Don't announce what you're doing to the world and don't give out location intel. - Don't leave combat drones out unless you are killing a NPC rat spawn.
Stupid bullshit.
It's as Miners would tell you to not use weapon ups but all cargo rigs and never fly anything else but T1 ships. Even the most brainless PvPler should know, that insurence for T2+ is a wast of money.
And avoid systems with more then 20? LOOOOOOLLLL ... that coming for a PvP player who NEVER come with less then 100. Troll more noob. Why the hell can't I fitt capital repairs or shield booster on an Orca ... it's an CAPITAL ship! |
Schnoo
The Schnoo
31
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Posted - 2011.12.15 14:48:00 -
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Well, how about making it impossible to do suicide ganking on trial accounts - if you want to grief (and let's not kid ourselves, it is just that, rich people shooting poor people), at least accept the consequences of being marked as one.
Make it so you can't commit a CONCORD unsanctioned attacks in high sec on trial accounts. |
Freezehunter
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Posted - 2011.12.15 14:49:00 -
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Jojo Jackson wrote:Scrapyard Bob wrote: - Fit a DC2 (generally means giving up one of your MLUs) - Use tanking rigs instead of cargo rigs - Stay off the beaten path (do not mine along a major travel route). - Avoid systems with more then 20 in local. - Make sure all known gank corps are tagged -5. Maybe tag NPC corps as -5 too. - Fly cheap, fly insured. - Never smack talk in local / private chats. - Don't announce what you're doing to the world and don't give out location intel. - Don't leave combat drones out unless you are killing a NPC rat spawn.
Stupid bullshit. It's as Miners would tell you to not use weapon ups but all cargo rigs and never fly anything else but T1 ships. Even the most brainless PvPler should know, that insurence for T2+ is a wast of money. And avoid systems with more then 20? LOOOOOOLLLL ... that coming for a PvP player who NEVER come with less then 100. Troll more noob.
You're either an idiot or a troll, can't make up my mind.
Is it better to be a nice guy or an *******? Tried being a nice guy, got shat on by all the assholes, became one. Tried being an *******, now everyone hates me. I am confused. How do you make people like you, when all they can see is text? |
Tore Vest
Vikinghall
104
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Posted - 2011.12.15 14:51:00 -
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Null must be a booring place these days |
Jojo Jackson
Dead Red Eye
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Posted - 2011.12.15 14:51:00 -
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Sharise Dragonstar wrote:... mechanics to properly punish them. At the moment there is no mechanic ...
Another big FAIL balance :(.
Industrial ships ALL suck hardcore in CPU/grid/slot layout. Several anti sozial gankbang moduls have NO COUNTER (cargo scanner, passive targeter). Indu capitals can not use capital moduls.
and and and ...
all over the message is clear: CCP want industrials to be ******!
Why the hell can't I fitt capital repairs or shield booster on an Orca ... it's an CAPITAL ship! |
Jojo Jackson
Dead Red Eye
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Posted - 2011.12.15 14:53:00 -
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Freezehunter wrote: You're either an idiot or a troll, can't make up my mind.
Come back with your main if you want to talk pink chicken. Why the hell can't I fitt capital repairs or shield booster on an Orca ... it's an CAPITAL ship! |
ragnar malice
Red Galaxy Rage Alliance
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Posted - 2011.12.15 14:55:00 -
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The troll quality is definitely better around here lately. Great job, OP. |
Mr Kidd
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.12.15 14:58:00 -
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Tanking a barge is like fortifying a wet paper bag. If you can get the EHP so that it takes more than one ship to gank a barge then they'll bring two. We want breast augmentations and sluttier clothing in the NeX! |
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Rarik Scutatus
BSC LEGION Tactical Narcotics Team
0
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Posted - 2011.12.15 15:19:00 -
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I have received a ruling on this after liberating a mackinaw from its enslavement:
griefing From: (xxxxxx) To: Rarik Scutatus
to a very bad person . i looked up the griefing rules on eve and u are in fact griefing.
End of thread.
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Taiwanistan
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
36
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Posted - 2011.12.15 15:27:00 -
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ganking, it's like mmmmmmmmmmmmmmohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh i popped my load and it's all over in 10 seconds before i don't even know what happened except i want to do it again it is like if i went on second life and raged where's the spaceships |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
2066
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Posted - 2011.12.15 15:29:00 -
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Jojo Jackson wrote:Sharise Dragonstar wrote:... mechanics to properly punish them. At the moment there is no mechanic ... Another big FAIL balance :( People's unwillingness to use the many mechanics at their disposal is not a failure of balance. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |
Othran
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.12.15 15:29:00 -
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If its a troll then it is definitely worth 8/10.
Good initial post to annoy people, decent follow-up from corpies/alts/whatever, stir the pot and see how it goes
If not then heh........ |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1330
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Posted - 2011.12.15 15:33:00 -
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Jojo Jackson wrote:Zevina wrote:Time to change your profession. :D So you want only 00 BOTs to mine for more RMT?
because nobody macromines in high-sec lmao
(by the way, nobody mines in nullsec) |
Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1865
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Posted - 2011.12.15 15:37:00 -
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Jojo Jackson wrote:Zevina wrote:Time to change your profession. :D So you want only 00 BOTs to mine for more RMT?
in 0.0 even bots won't mine they have more self-respect than that |
RubyPorto
Profoundly Disturbed RED.Legion
148
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Posted - 2011.12.15 15:39:00 -
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Andski wrote:
(by the way, nobody mines in nullsec)
People "Mine" in Carriers in Nullsec all the time. |
Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1865
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Posted - 2011.12.15 15:45:00 -
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RubyPorto wrote:Andski wrote:
(by the way, nobody mines in nullsec)
People "Mine" in Carriers in Nullsec all the time. people hella gunmine but anyone in any sort of mining ship should be shot by their own alliance |
Crias Taylor
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
104
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Posted - 2011.12.15 15:55:00 -
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Mr Kidd wrote:Tanking a barge is like fortifying a wet paper bag. If you can get the EHP so that it takes more than one ship to gank a barge then they'll bring two.
Maybe if you still want that max yield, but I think you are just bad at fitting. Also why do people keep mining when a -10 enters. It is cause you let your greed and laziness get the better of you.-á |
Mang0o
North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
2
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Posted - 2011.12.15 15:56:00 -
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so many hulks ive lost to suicide gankers, i wish thay would stop |
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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
528
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Posted - 2011.12.15 16:02:00 -
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Weaselior wrote:RubyPorto wrote:Andski wrote:
(by the way, nobody mines in nullsec)
People "Mine" in Carriers in Nullsec all the time. people hella gunmine but anyone in any sort of mining ship should be shot by their own alliance
Which probably needs to change.
If CCP wants to add targets to the game for small gang PVP, making Null Sec profitable to mine in (real mining) would be a great way to do it. Revenge should not stop at the ship!
It's not so much a mission statement,-áit's more like a family motto. |
Dragon Outlaw
Rogue Fleet
2
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Posted - 2011.12.15 16:26:00 -
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Andski wrote:(by the way, nobody mines in nullsec)
LOL |
Sharise Dragonstar
Kiss My Assets
0
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Posted - 2011.12.15 16:31:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Jojo Jackson wrote:Sharise Dragonstar wrote:... mechanics to properly punish them. At the moment there is no mechanic ... Another big FAIL balance :( People's unwillingness to use the many mechanics at their disposal is not a failure of balance.
Never said there were not any mechanics just that better ones are needed. The mechanics available at the moment are nowhere near enough strong enough to disuade people from suicide ganking. Big deal I now have a kill right on a character who is also -10 but the only ship he is trained to fly is a cruiser at best. Ok so I catch him in my battleship and pop him. Do they care? Of course not he has unlimited supply of ships from the main character who is funding him. Say I keep killing him on sight when he is -10 sec status, all that happens is he reappears in station (If I pod him). It also makes you a target if you randomly pop a -10 toon you just happen to come across. At the moment suicide ganking only has pros, the cons of it are that negligable they not worth considering. |
Brego Tralowski
Outpost 99
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Posted - 2011.12.15 16:33:00 -
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Jay Boomer wrote:Ok im calling for a bannen of suicide gankin hulks in high sec it's getting out of hand and needs to stop.... so im going to ask for a petition.. so im askin players that like flying hulks to sign up.. just drop your name and thats it thanks
Calm it porno!
Ganking is part of Eve, I have had it done to me and i've done it to others, have some fun.
Flying Logi in an Incursion near you and giving free stuffs to Rookies. |
Jay Boomer
Bioglitch Mining and Salvaging Inc.
1
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Posted - 2011.12.15 16:40:00 -
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tell you what my turn im going to fram a group to pay you gankers back see you soon x) |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
2066
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Posted - 2011.12.15 16:44:00 -
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Sharise Dragonstar wrote:The mechanics available at the moment are nowhere near enough strong enough to disuade people from suicide ganking. Of course not. Why should they?
Quote:Big deal I now have a kill right on a character who is also -10 but the only ship he is trained to fly is a cruiser at best. Ok so I catch him in my battleship and pop him. Do they care? Of course. He now has to go through the bother of getting a new ship to a character that can't move around with the same freedom as everyone else; he must all of a sudden take into account that maybe there's someone out there that is actually making use of his free-for-all status; and above all, he just lost a killGǪ GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |
Rarik Scutatus
BSC LEGION Tactical Narcotics Team
0
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Posted - 2011.12.15 16:45:00 -
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Jay Boomer wrote:tell you what my turn im going to fram a group to pay you gankers back see you soon x)
Do this ^^. |
RubyPorto
Profoundly Disturbed RED.Legion
148
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Posted - 2011.12.15 16:50:00 -
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Weaselior wrote:RubyPorto wrote:Andski wrote:
(by the way, nobody mines in nullsec)
People "Mine" in Carriers in Nullsec all the time. people hella gunmine but anyone in any sort of mining ship should be shot by their own alliance
Mmm, Hauler spawns. 2-3 good ones and you have a Dread. |
Sharise Dragonstar
Kiss My Assets
0
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Posted - 2011.12.15 17:11:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Sharise Dragonstar wrote:The mechanics available at the moment are nowhere near enough strong enough to disuade people from suicide ganking. Of course not. Why should they? Quote:Big deal I now have a kill right on a character who is also -10 but the only ship he is trained to fly is a cruiser at best. Ok so I catch him in my battleship and pop him. Do they care? Of course. He now has to go through the bother of getting a new ship to a character that can't move around with the same freedom as everyone else; he must all of a sudden take into account that maybe there's someone out there that is actually making use of his free-for-all status; and above all, he just lost a killGǪ
None of those reasons you mentioned are of any note to a suicide ganker. Getting a new ship is exceptionally easy as the main character just drops of as many ships/fitting he requires. Losing a kill? I presume this means someone has killed him and not the other way around, if so its not even noticable losing a ship that is so easily replaced. If he cared about his killboard kill/death ratio he would not be a suicide ganker.
Why should the mechanics be strong enough to disuade suicide ganking you ask? Whats the point of them if they are not strong enough? At the moment when a suicide ganker evaluates his target and the consequences of his actions he quickly realises the consequences are so minimal that they are almost non existant.
Suicide gankers and there fans will argue till they are blue in the face that the penalties are fine as they are now simply becaus they dont want their easy ISK taken away or made harder to obtain and will try talk down any who argue otherwise. Myself, i believe suicide ganking should be viable but have some sort of meaningful punishment, something to make the ganker think twice and maybe then decide against it. There are some who just dont care and will gank whatever the punishment, nothing you can do about those players but many may think twice if the risk of suicide ganking was increased. |
baltec1
246
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Posted - 2011.12.15 17:16:00 -
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Sharise Dragonstar wrote:Tippia wrote:Sharise Dragonstar wrote:The mechanics available at the moment are nowhere near enough strong enough to disuade people from suicide ganking. Of course not. Why should they? Quote:Big deal I now have a kill right on a character who is also -10 but the only ship he is trained to fly is a cruiser at best. Ok so I catch him in my battleship and pop him. Do they care? Of course. He now has to go through the bother of getting a new ship to a character that can't move around with the same freedom as everyone else; he must all of a sudden take into account that maybe there's someone out there that is actually making use of his free-for-all status; and above all, he just lost a killGǪ None of those reasons you mentioned are of any note to a suicide ganker. Getting a new ship is exceptionally easy as the main character just drops of as many ships/fitting he requires. Losing a kill? I presume this means someone has killed him and not the other way around, if so its not even noticable losing a ship that is so easily replaced. If he cared about his killboard kill/death ratio he would not be a suicide ganker. Why should the mechanics be strong enough to disuade suicide ganking you ask? Whats the point of them if they are not strong enough? At the moment when a suicide ganker evaluates his target and the consequences of his actions he quickly realises the consequences are so minimal that they are almost non existant. Suicide gankers and there fans will argue till they are blue in the face that the penalties are fine as they are now simply becaus they dont want their easy ISK taken away or made harder to obtain and will try talk down any who argue otherwise. Myself, i believe suicide ganking should be viable but have some sort of meaningful punishment, something to make the ganker think twice and maybe then decide against it. There are some who just dont care and will gank whatever the punishment, nothing you can do about those players but many may think twice if the risk of suicide ganking was increased.
The current punishments are enough. This is evident by the simple fact that the chances of the average ship getting ganked in empire is incredibly remote |
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