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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
2066
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Posted - 2011.12.15 17:23:00 -
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Sharise Dragonstar wrote:None of those reasons you mentioned are of any note to a suicide ganker. Since their whole purpose is to get a kill, denying them that is of some noteGǪ Oh, and no matter how much you shrug off the added logistics needed to keep the -10 provided with stuff, it is none the less additional logistics that is required; it's more work that makes the life of that character more difficult.
Quote:If he cared about his killboard kill/death ratio he would not be a suicide ganker. GǪbut being a suicide ganker, he cares about his kill number. You just robbed him of the one thing he actually cares about. That's as hash a punishment as it will ever get. If you choose not to give him the hardest kick in the balls imaginable, then guess who's to blame that he's not being punished enoughGǪ a hint: it's not the fault of the mechanics.
Quote:Why should the mechanics be strong enough to disuade suicide ganking you ask? Whats the point of them if they are not strong enough? But the thing is, they are strong enough dissuade most from ganks GÇö otherwise, you wouldn't be able to undock. They shouldn't be strong enough to just dissuade ganking, full stop, because suicide ganking is legitimate game play and serves a couple of very important purposes.
Quote:At the moment when a suicide ganker evaluates his target and the consequences of his actions he quickly realises the consequences are so minimal that they are GǪon average, far higher than he'd like, so he doesn't gank. As proof of this, seeGǪ wellGǪ all of highsec and the rather astonishing lack of ganks we see even given the minute constraints on them.
Quote:Myself, i believe suicide ganking should be viable but have some sort of meaningful punishment GǪwhich it has, if people just bothered to actually mete it out. They don't, so they have forfeited their right to complain about how that punishment is too lax GÇö it's lax because they choose to make it lax. That is a people problem, not a game mechanics problem. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |
Soi Mala
Whacky Waving Inflatable Flailing Arm Tubemen
97
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Posted - 2011.12.15 17:32:00 -
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Tippia wrote:which it has, if people just bothered to actually mete it out. They don't, so they have forfeited their right to complain about how that punishment is too lax GÇö it's lax because they choose to make it lax. That is a people problem, not a game mechanics problem.
Wait, some guy pisses in my pint, and ~I~ have to deal with it? NO WAY MAN, SOUNDS DANGEROUS!
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Trainwreck McGee
Ghost Ship Inc.
156
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Posted - 2011.12.15 17:33:00 -
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Jay is either a troll or REALLY needs to go back to school and get his grade 10. CCP Trainwreck - Weekend Custodial Engineer / CCP Necrogoats foot stool |
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
611
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Posted - 2011.12.15 17:49:00 -
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but my ship yard business, suicide gankers and ganked alike buy my ships. :{
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Solstice Project
Cult of Personality
284
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Posted - 2011.12.15 17:52:00 -
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Dear OP,
maybe you're not aware of the fact that you're playing EvE online, where EvE could easily stand for Everybody vs. Everybody.
Unlike WoW or all the other so called MMORPGs (pah!) out there, this game really has a universe filled with lives that make the game.
You are a victim by your own choice. The loss of your ship, it's only to blame on yourself. EvE makes it easily possible to watch out for ones self.
If you don't want to die ... ... then move into a system with lesser traffic. ... then pay attention to your surroundings and warp out if suspicious activity occurs. ... learn how to tank your ship properly. ... then stop playing a game that's encouraging people to fight and kill each other.
If you want a change, try and support suggestions about Bounty Hunting or any other profession that would level the easiness of ganking a ship like yours.
Either that .. or GTFO ! Inappropriate signature removed. Spitfire |
Velicitia
Open Designs
203
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Posted - 2011.12.15 18:40:00 -
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Solstice Project wrote:... where EvE could easily stand for Everybody vs. Everybody.
confirming the devs have stated "EvE stands for Everyone v. Everyone"
I think Guard put it best. |
Zleon Leigh
35
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Posted - 2011.12.15 18:49:00 -
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Best thing you could do - park your Hulks for two weeks. Incarna - Newest business example of mismanaged capital.
CCP - Continuing to gank independent PI producers every day |
Roscada
We love Egg
6
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Posted - 2011.12.15 19:07:00 -
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Yes, yes. Please give everyone a handy list of names to plug into our locator agents. |
Alistair Cononach
The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance
71
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Posted - 2011.12.15 19:13:00 -
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Make a friend.
MIne in Rohk.
Friend in Hauler.
Suicide Ganks be gone.
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Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1866
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Posted - 2011.12.15 19:19:00 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:Which probably needs to change. If CCP wants to add targets to the game for small gang PVP, making Null Sec profitable to mine in (real mining) would be a great way to do it. I agree, I'd love to be able to kill miners in null but until that happy day it's ganking highsec miners all day every day
i will still gank highsec miners once that happens of course just less often |
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1332
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Posted - 2011.12.15 19:21:00 -
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Dragon Outlaw wrote:Andski wrote:(by the way, nobody mines in nullsec) LOL
i have never seen a mining ship in 0.0 (outside of cobalt edge/renter space) |
Myrdraeus Keaunt
Physical Chaos
19
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Posted - 2011.12.15 19:31:00 -
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Jay Boomer wrote:Ok im calling for a bannen of suicide gankin hulks in high sec it's getting out of hand and needs to stop.... so im going to ask for a petition.. so im askin players that like flying hulks to sign up.. just drop your name and thats it thanks
What about retrievers?
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Slade Trillgon
T.R.I.A.D
76
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Posted - 2011.12.15 19:32:00 -
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Troll thread or not I will post my opinion.
I can fly a hulk and I wish that things were harsher in high sec.
There; I said it.
Slade
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arcca jeth
Dark Alliance Dark Empire Alliance
36
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Posted - 2011.12.15 19:39:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Peace Forgiven wrote:who gives a **** about spelling I do. If the OP can't be bothered to express his point, then his point is obviously not worth bothering about. At most, we can re-purpose his thread as a comedy act (because that's what his humorous idea made it to begin with). The OP is apparently complaining about legitimate gameplay because, not only can't he be bothered with stating his case GÇö he can't be bothered with playing the game. Quote:by the way, without miners, all you PVPer's would be comatose.... By the way, miners are PvPers.
for such a spelling **** you sure "can't be bothered" to stop using the phrase "can't be bothered" if you "can't be bothered" to use it appropriately
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arcca jeth
Dark Alliance Dark Empire Alliance
36
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Posted - 2011.12.15 19:41:00 -
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Freezehunter wrote:Peace Forgiven wrote:Quote:by the way, without miners, all you PVPer's would be comatose.... By the way, miners are PvPers. hmm might wanna rephrase that, im not a PvPer, i dont own a single DPS ship since my last missioning one blew up and even then thats PvE...... i fly Logi for incursions and industrial ships/Mining ships for indi/manu.......
I still LOL @ people that lose ships in missions, to NPCs, dunno' why, it's just funneh!
Doing missions is the safest and most simple thing I can think of in eve...
Except Mining, but I don't think about that because my IQ would drop to 40...[/quote]
dude, your shirt....AND your face
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Freezehunter
44
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Posted - 2011.12.15 19:44:00 -
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arcca jeth wrote:Freezehunter wrote:Peace Forgiven wrote:Quote:by the way, without miners, all you PVPer's would be comatose.... By the way, miners are PvPers. hmm might wanna rephrase that, im not a PvPer, i dont own a single DPS ship since my last missioning one blew up and even then thats PvE...... i fly Logi for incursions and industrial ships/Mining ships for indi/manu....... I still LOL @ people that lose ships in missions, to NPCs, dunno' why, it's just funneh! Doing missions is the safest and most simple thing I can think of in eve... Except Mining, but I don't think about that because my IQ would drop to 40...
dude, your shirt....AND your face [/quote]
My portrait looks way better than that ******** blind geezer of yours...
And the awesome thing about it is I got all this **** I am wearing for free. Is it better to be a nice guy or an *******? Tried being a nice guy, got shat on by all the assholes, became one. Tried being an *******, now everyone hates me. I am confused. How do you make people like you, when all they can see is text? |
arcca jeth
Dark Alliance Dark Empire Alliance
36
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Posted - 2011.12.15 19:52:00 -
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OP pose as a miner and then do this
http://youtu.be/V8d9i2xYbkQ
and dude above me, my guy is blind and old geezer yes, because this account is old, seems fitting, no offense taken |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
2069
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Posted - 2011.12.15 19:55:00 -
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arcca jeth wrote:for such a spelling **** you sure "can't be bothered" to stop using the phrase "can't be bothered" if you "can't be bothered" to use it appropriately Since you couldn't be bothered to point out any actual errors, I can only assume that the asterisks hide the word GÇ£heroGÇ¥. No need to censor it.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |
ElQuirko
EldarRiders Stainwagon.
50
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Posted - 2011.12.15 19:56:00 -
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The hell is the point of having money if you can't lose it retardedly?
If I was a miner, and had all my brain cells (which is unlikely), I would just man the **** up and get another. Then, when bored, I'd fit myself a thorax and gank some EVE-Uni newbie in a retriever. |
Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1869
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Posted - 2011.12.15 20:11:00 -
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ElQuirko wrote:The hell is the point of having money if you can't lose it retardedly?
If I was a miner, and had all my brain cells (which is unlikely), I would just man the **** up and get another. Then, when bored, I'd fit myself a thorax and gank some EVE-Uni newbie in a retriever. don't use a thorax on a retriever
because retrievers are made out of paper you can get a retriever and the pod if you're quick, so you want to use a catalyst instead so it locks the pod faster |
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arcca jeth
Dark Alliance Dark Empire Alliance
36
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Posted - 2011.12.15 20:14:00 -
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Tippia wrote:arcca jeth wrote:for such a spelling **** you sure "can't be bothered" to stop using the phrase "can't be bothered" if you "can't be bothered" to use it appropriately Since you couldn't be bothered to point out any actual errors, I can only assume that the asterisks hide the word GÇ£heroGÇ¥. No need to censor it.
i didn't censor the word, the forums did, here's a hint, it's 4 letters, and most ladies dont like it
either way, your not perfect, so get off your high horse |
Freezehunter
44
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Posted - 2011.12.15 20:14:00 -
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Weaselior wrote:ElQuirko wrote:The hell is the point of having money if you can't lose it retardedly?
If I was a miner, and had all my brain cells (which is unlikely), I would just man the **** up and get another. Then, when bored, I'd fit myself a thorax and gank some EVE-Uni newbie in a retriever. don't use a thorax on a retriever because retrievers are made out of paper you can get a retriever and the pod if you're quick, so you want to use a catalyst instead so it locks the pod faster
I'm actually thinking of becoming an ******* in game as well and suicide ganking people.
Do you think a full gank Artillery Tornado can instapop a Hulk?
On the test server I was able to instapop frigates, cruisers and other T3 battlecruisers from 130 KM with it. Is it better to be a nice guy or an *******? Tried being a nice guy, got shat on by all the assholes, became one. Tried being an *******, now everyone hates me. I am confused. How do you make people like you, when all they can see is text? |
Freezehunter
44
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Posted - 2011.12.15 20:17:00 -
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arcca jeth wrote:Tippia wrote:arcca jeth wrote:for such a spelling **** you sure "can't be bothered" to stop using the phrase "can't be bothered" if you "can't be bothered" to use it appropriately Since you couldn't be bothered to point out any actual errors, I can only assume that the asterisks hide the word GÇ£heroGÇ¥. No need to censor it. i didn't censor the word, the forums did, here's a hint, it's 4 letters, and most ladies dont like it either way, your not perfect, so get off your high horse
Is kewnt the word you are looking for, sir? Is it better to be a nice guy or an *******? Tried being a nice guy, got shat on by all the assholes, became one. Tried being an *******, now everyone hates me. I am confused. How do you make people like you, when all they can see is text? |
Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1869
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Posted - 2011.12.15 20:23:00 -
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arcca jeth wrote:Tippia wrote:arcca jeth wrote:for such a spelling **** you sure "can't be bothered" to stop using the phrase "can't be bothered" if you "can't be bothered" to use it appropriately Since you couldn't be bothered to point out any actual errors, I can only assume that the asterisks hide the word GÇ£heroGÇ¥. No need to censor it. i didn't censor the word, the forums did, here's a hint, it's 4 letters, and most ladies dont like it either way, your not perfect, so get off your high horse "you" is three letters
though it's you typing it so its "me" and two
in both cases it's not censored |
Solstice Project
Cult of Personality
284
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Posted - 2011.12.15 20:25:00 -
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Velicitia wrote:Solstice Project wrote:... where EvE could easily stand for Everybody vs. Everybody. confirming the devs have stated "EvE stands for Everyone v. Everyone" I think Guard put it best.
Thanks! Haven't seen it in a while, it's hilarious ! :D Inappropriate signature removed. Spitfire |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1333
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Posted - 2011.12.15 20:25:00 -
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Freezehunter wrote:Do you think a full gank Artillery Tornado can instapop a Hulk?
On the test server I was able to instapop frigates, cruisers and other T3 battlecruisers from 130 KM with it.
Not if it's tanked. |
Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1869
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Posted - 2011.12.15 20:25:00 -
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oh I get it its "jeth" thats the four letter thing ladies don't like |
arcca jeth
Dark Alliance Dark Empire Alliance
36
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Posted - 2011.12.15 20:26:00 -
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Weaselior wrote:arcca jeth wrote:Tippia wrote:arcca jeth wrote:for such a spelling **** you sure "can't be bothered" to stop using the phrase "can't be bothered" if you "can't be bothered" to use it appropriately Since you couldn't be bothered to point out any actual errors, I can only assume that the asterisks hide the word GÇ£heroGÇ¥. No need to censor it. i didn't censor the word, the forums did, here's a hint, it's 4 letters, and most ladies dont like it either way, your not perfect, so get off your high horse "you" is three letters though it's you typing it so its "me" and two in both cases it's not censored
lol well comon, i'm not that mean. it actually surprised me that the word n a z i was censored, like h u s s e i n is as well
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ElQuirko
EldarRiders Stainwagon.
50
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Posted - 2011.12.15 20:26:00 -
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Freezehunter wrote:[quote=Weaselior] I'm actually thinking of becoming an ******* in game as well and suicide ganking people.
Suicide gankers aren't assholes. They just have other ways of being amused at the expense of others.
Think of it as being the writers of any sitcom ever to air on fox. |
Solstice Project
Cult of Personality
284
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Posted - 2011.12.15 20:28:00 -
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Weaselior wrote:ElQuirko wrote:The hell is the point of having money if you can't lose it retardedly?
If I was a miner, and had all my brain cells (which is unlikely), I would just man the **** up and get another. Then, when bored, I'd fit myself a thorax and gank some EVE-Uni newbie in a retriever. don't use a thorax on a retriever because retrievers are made out of paper you can get a retriever and the pod if you're quick, so you want to use a catalyst instead so it locks the pod faster
Confirming the professional advise. Inappropriate signature removed. Spitfire |
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