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Rodric O'Connor
Latter Day Saints Dark Taboo
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Posted - 2016.02.03 06:42:03 -
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I have been thinking for a wile on how the Microsoft hololens could been used in eve and the only way i could see it being used in eve is for a U.I. in game things like chat box's, map, market window, windows like that, Of course it would only be used in that way and not for things like the H.U.D.
The way i'm thinking is say i want to open a the map and it appears in front of me of my deck or over flat surface and i manipulate the map with my fingers or with the keyboard and you could even do 3D holograms similar to the captions quarters and you see holograms on the coffee table that if you want that and use it for things like 3D map, images of ship and items, and a few other things but ill leave 3D up you, All i'm think of is a way it make the player be more apart of the game and for those of use who don't have a triple monitor setup to help unclutter the screen.
now like said before this would be for windows that are not used for the H.U.D and overview and things like that but used for chat window, market, industry tab, contacts, secondry windows only. |
Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
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Posted - 2016.02.03 07:01:56 -
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So instead of needing a triple monitor set-up we now need a very specific single manufacturer piece of hardware? |
Lugh Crow-Slave
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Posted - 2016.02.03 13:36:47 -
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I'm no expert bit that seems like a lot of time and resources would be nerfed to make this novelty not many would use
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Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
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Posted - 2016.02.03 14:42:14 -
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April 1st isn't for another couple of months, matey
Back under your bridge you go
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Alundil
Isogen 5
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Posted - 2016.02.03 15:46:40 -
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This is amazing. OP, you can use this to display the captains quarters and it will totally replicate a basement somewhere. Complete with a door that won't open.
Fake edit: couldn't resist. Im sure you're a lovely human being.
I'm right behind you
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Rodric O'Connor
Latter Day Saints Dark Taboo
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Posted - 2016.02.03 16:58:36 -
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Nevyn Auscent wrote:So instead of needing a triple monitor set-up we now need a very specific single manufacturer piece of hardware?
dose not need to be a Microsoft hololens have so any manufacturer hardware would work and where a triple monitor can cost 500 up to 1500 depending on maker and screen size this might be good way to go but it's would a optional setting it there if people want to use it or not like the new camera modes |
Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite CODE.
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Posted - 2016.02.03 17:16:32 -
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Why would you buy something from Microsoft?
the Code ALWAYS wins
Elite PvPer, #74 in 2014
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Rodric O'Connor
Latter Day Saints Dark Taboo
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Posted - 2016.02.03 17:52:12 -
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Ima Wreckyou wrote:Why would you buy something from Microsoft?
i dont know if i would buy it i just thinking out side the box |
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
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Posted - 2016.02.03 18:41:07 -
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Rodric O'Connor wrote:Ima Wreckyou wrote:Why would you buy something from Microsoft? i dont know if i would buy it i just thinking out side the box
The box is there for a reason...it stops all of the bad ideas from polluting the nice, fresh, good ideas
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Luna Bowman
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2016.02.04 06:39:07 -
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Ima Wreckyou wrote:Why would you buy something from Microsoft?
actually, many MS products are quite good. Are you using MS Windows, by any chance, btw?
edit: to stay on topic, MS Hololens, while an interesting idea, is, as a product, not even in beta / developer access phase, so I see no point in integrating it in anything. |
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Rivr Luzade
Kenshin. DARKNESS.
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Posted - 2016.02.04 07:17:52 -
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Bumblefck wrote:Rodric O'Connor wrote:Ima Wreckyou wrote:Why would you buy something from Microsoft? i dont know if i would buy it i just thinking out side the box The box is there for a reason...it stops all of the bad ideas from polluting the nice, fresh, good ideas Good, because this is a nice one. I have a fairly big white wall around my monitor which I could use easily as display area for UI elements via the Hololense so that my monitor only displays space and the really important things. Chats, the sidebar, system info, scanner windows, map, market window, contracts could all be displayed outside my monitor while I focus on the important in-space interaction and with the wink of my hand, I move in UI elements that I need or move some out of the focus that I do not need.
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Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite CODE.
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Posted - 2016.02.04 07:34:08 -
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Luna Bowman wrote:Ima Wreckyou wrote:Why would you buy something from Microsoft? actually, many MS products are quite good. Are you using MS Windows, by any chance, btw? No, I seriously consider it malware.
I just think it is really stupid to tailor an already established product which runs on a variety of platforms to a single peace of proprietary hardware.
the Code ALWAYS wins
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Rivr Luzade
Kenshin. DARKNESS.
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Posted - 2016.02.04 07:59:31 -
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DUST ran on the proprietary Playstation 3, Valkyrie on the proprietary Rift and Morpheus, Gunjack on a select few Android phones. I do not see your point, IMY, should EVE be able to use the Hololense to augment the UI of the standard monitor display.
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Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite CODE.
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Posted - 2016.02.04 08:13:23 -
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Rivr Luzade wrote:DUST ran on the proprietary Playstation 3, Valkyrie on the proprietary Rift and Morpheus, Gunjack on a select few Android phones. I do not see your point, IMY, should EVE be able to use the Hololense to augment the UI of the standard monitor display. Dust just died, really good example. Looks like locking their products to a niche inside a niche is their thing this days, maybe you should work for them.
the Code ALWAYS wins
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Rivr Luzade
Kenshin. DARKNESS.
2271
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Posted - 2016.02.04 08:34:38 -
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I still do not see your point. The OP does not suggest to make EVE run on the Hololense, but who get it to use it to augment their EVE experience. Making it possible to use more than one device or several devices at the same time to display the UI is not the same locking EVE into one platform. vOv
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Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite CODE.
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Posted - 2016.02.04 09:41:46 -
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Rivr Luzade wrote:I still do not see your point. The OP does not suggest to make EVE run on the Hololense, but who get it to use it to augment their EVE experience. Making it possible to use more than one device or several devices at the same time to display the UI is not the same locking EVE into one platform. vOv He thinks it is a good idea to divert development effort into extending EVE to a completely proprietary format just a few hundred people will ever use. Which I think is an idiotic idea and it's why I voice my concerns.
the Code ALWAYS wins
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Iain Cariaba
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Posted - 2016.02.04 10:08:30 -
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Luna Bowman wrote:Ima Wreckyou wrote:Why would you buy something from Microsoft? actually, many MS products are quite good. Are you using MS Windows, by any chance, btw?
gasp...
gasp... Oh, wait. You were serious.
The last "good" product microshaft put out was Freelancer. Everything since has been a waste of drive space, and I refuse to give that company a penny of my money.
EvE is hard. It's harder if you're stupid.
I couldn't have said it better.
Hello, Mr Carebear. Would you like some cheese with that whine?
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Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
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Posted - 2016.02.04 10:21:27 -
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Rodric O'Connor wrote: dose not need to be a Microsoft hololens have so any manufacturer hardware would work and where a triple monitor can cost 500 up to 1500 depending on maker and screen size this might be good way to go but it's would a optional setting it there if people want to use it or not like the new camera modes
Current Hololens price. $3000. Enough said. |
Rivr Luzade
Kenshin. DARKNESS.
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Posted - 2016.02.04 11:09:01 -
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Ima Wreckyou wrote:Rivr Luzade wrote:I still do not see your point. The OP does not suggest to make EVE run on the Hololense, but who get it to use it to augment their EVE experience. Making it possible to use more than one device or several devices at the same time to display the UI is not the same locking EVE into one platform. vOv He thinks it is a good idea to divert development effort into extending EVE to a completely proprietary format just a few hundred people will ever use. Which I think is an idiotic idea and it's why I voice my concerns. CCP is known for doing rather unproductive things, just look at your char's face. It wears one of the less productive things. Whether it will be used by just a few hundred people remains to be seen. CCP also produces Valkyrie for VR, which not only makes you look like a complete tool when you use the gear, the devices were also highly expensive in the beginning (while having fewer functionalities than the Hololense dev kits due to their nature), but peoples till hyped this failure of a product into reality. Just like VR, which has taken years of development to become somewhat mainstream (it's still only used by enthusiasts, even at the reduced consumer price of 600 Gé¼ for a kit + the 2k Gé¼ for the "VR Ready" PC hardware.). The same is going to happen to Hololense products should there be a sufficiently potent market and feasible usage scenarios -- both of which are there. It's going to take time, but VR also did not happen from one day to another and yet, CCP is developing a game for it. This idea is something for a long term vision, not something for the immediate future.
@Iain My Nokia Lumia 920 is still superior compared to any iOS/Android device.
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Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
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Posted - 2016.02.04 11:44:18 -
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Rivr Luzade wrote:@Iain My Nokia Lumia 920 is still superior compared to any iOS/Android device.
Judging from the Wikipedia page, that really seems like an unlikely statement to make
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Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite CODE.
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Posted - 2016.02.04 11:53:08 -
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Rivr Luzade wrote:The same is going to happen to Hololense products should there be a sufficiently potent market and feasible usage scenarios -- both of which are there. It's going to take time, but VR also did not happen from one day to another and yet, CCP is developing a game for it. I am not sure in which world you are living where VR did happen already. Are you one of the guys with a 3D television by any chance?
the Code ALWAYS wins
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Rivr Luzade
Kenshin. DARKNESS.
2271
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Posted - 2016.02.04 12:40:59 -
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Ima Wreckyou wrote:Rivr Luzade wrote:The same is going to happen to Hololense products should there be a sufficiently potent market and feasible usage scenarios -- both of which are there. It's going to take time, but VR also did not happen from one day to another and yet, CCP is developing a game for it. I am not sure in which world you are living where VR did happen already. Are you one of the guys with a 3D television by any chance? Not at all. I think they are useless (the TVs as well as VR devices (not to mention that they are not VR at all, but that's a different story)). Do you class Valkyrie into the same category as DUST in this case?
@Bumblefck A Wikipedia article can surely convey the advantages of daily usage of a Lumia. Good job.
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Gevlin
Fink Operations The Volition Cult
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Posted - 2016.02.08 22:43:48 -
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MIND CLASH !!!!!!!!!
For observers in a one on one fight of those n VR!
Never stop trying to think out side the box, It is a hell of a lot cheaper and easer to stand out than be different than to be the best.
Sure there is chance fo failure but , no matter what you do does, but judgement on these routes have to be evaluated once all the in information is collected and complied.
You have my permission and encouragement to think out side the box!
Someday I will have the time to play. For now it is mining afk in High sec. In Cheap ships
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Rodric O'Connor
Latter Day Saints Dark Taboo
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Posted - 2016.02.14 00:58:35 -
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Rivr Luzade wrote:Ima Wreckyou wrote:Rivr Luzade wrote:I still do not see your point. The OP does not suggest to make EVE run on the Hololense, but who get it to use it to augment their EVE experience. Making it possible to use more than one device or several devices at the same time to display the UI is not the same locking EVE into one platform. vOv He thinks it is a good idea to divert development effort into extending EVE to a completely proprietary format just a few hundred people will ever use. Which I think is an idiotic idea and it's why I voice my concerns. CCP is known for doing rather unproductive things, just look at your char's face. It wears one of the less productive things. Whether it will be used by just a few hundred people remains to be seen. CCP also produces Valkyrie for VR, which not only makes you look like a complete tool when you use the gear, the devices were also highly expensive in the beginning (while having fewer functionalities than the Hololense dev kits due to their nature), but peoples till hyped this failure of a product into reality. Just like VR, which has taken years of development to become somewhat mainstream (it's still only used by enthusiasts, even at the reduced consumer price of 600 Gé¼ for a kit + the 2k Gé¼ for the "VR Ready" PC hardware.). The same is going to happen to Hololense products should there be a sufficiently potent market and feasible usage scenarios -- both of which are there. It's going to take time, but VR also did not happen from one day to another and yet, CCP is developing a game for it. This idea is something for a long term vision, not something for the immediate future. @Iain My Nokia Lumia 920 is still superior compared to any iOS/Android device.
yes this is a long term idea every thing that ppl put in these forums are long term i dont think ccp will pick this one up right now but as any idea forums ccp most likely would file ideas way to review down the line like most smart companies would do.
it is better to think of a idea now then latter on |
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