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XeX Znndstrup
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Posted - 2016.03.08 12:05:41 -
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Opertone wrote:lacking graphics, lacking physics Eve Legion will not challenge BF for sure. Even if it would be graphically poor, it should have deep features of MMO. We don't only love Eve Online for its graphics. We love it because you need to play it more than one year only to understand how deep it is. You described well features we are waiting for but we would accept neutral graphics if possible to greatly interfere with Eve.
Judge of The Law Organization and President of Stellar Order.
"Long is the way, and hard, that out of hell leads up to light". John Milton, Lost Paradise.
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Noroswen
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2016.03.09 11:46:19 -
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XeX Znndstrup wrote:Opertone wrote:lacking graphics, lacking physics Eve Legion will not challenge BF for sure. Even if it would be graphically poor, it should have deep features of MMO. We don't only love Eve Online for its graphics. We love it because you need to play it more than one year only to understand how deep it is. You described well features we are waiting for but we would accept neutral graphics if possible to greatly interfere with Eve.
Nail on the head. The most important part is not making an FPS which can challenge the other shooters on the market through graphics and other more twitch centric features. Yes work on good hitboxing, yes good balance, but also realize what will set Dust apart is not being a great FPS but being a deep game.
Also if a dev could simply acknowledge any of this is being read it might assuage some of the anxiety in the community. |
Kador Ouryon
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2016.03.09 21:51:19 -
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Opertone wrote:I agree.
No world of tank.
In fact World of Tank is horrible to me, that I can't even stand it.
Admittedly I don't think it stands up graphically to Warthunder or in terms of mechanics like the rather interesting 'On Hit Camera' that shows you exactly how your shells land, penetrate, or bounce off of your intended target.
That said it does have an ESL League, not that I place an arbitrary value on that, so I'd think the game must be doing something right graphically impressive or not.
And honestly graphics are a secondary concern to me over solid gameplay, and enjoyable setting, and rich back story and content.
What fills the soul?
Something that guides a lost child back to it's parents arms.
Or waves that dye the shores of the heart gold.
A blessed breath to nurture life in a land of wheat.
Or the path the Sef descend drawn in ash.
In the wake of fire.
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Lateris
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Posted - 2016.03.13 17:39:12 -
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I just hope we don't have to wait 5 more years for this to come to the PC and that it is not a VR exclusive. That would be a huge mistake in the PC gaming market to be a VR exclusive. But I am stoked that it will be on the PC.
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Darth Carbonite Tokila
Random Gunz The-Office
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Posted - 2016.03.13 20:20:23 -
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There is no such thing as "EVE Legion."
That was a different game, with a different engine, with a different focus. The announcement was less than clear on this matter, which lead to a lot of early misconception for Dusties.
So while I understand the frustration with not having a name to throw around, it's better for us all to separate the dead past from the very real future.
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Vudra Keerah
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2016.03.17 01:55:47 -
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Darth Carbonite Tokila wrote:There is no such thing as "EVE Legion."
That was a different game, with a different engine, with a different focus. The announcement was less than clear on this matter, which lead to a lot of early misconception for Dusties.
So while I understand the frustration with not having a name to throw around, it's better for us all to separate the dead past from the very real future.
To clarify that was Unreal Engine 3 (Project Legion) as opposed to Unreal Engine 4 with the new prototype that will be demoed in April? |
Darth Carbonite Tokila
Random Gunz The-Office
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Posted - 2016.03.17 20:13:27 -
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Vudra Keerah wrote:To clarify that was Unreal Engine 3 (Project Legion) as opposed to Unreal Engine 4 with the new prototype that will be demoed in April?
Correct, although the exact wording in the announcement was "An update at EVE Fanfest on April 21st."
Whether that includes any demos or presentations is still to be publicly determined. Hopefully we will all have a better idea of what will happen when we get the Fanfest schedule.
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Vudra Keerah
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2016.03.30 04:13:31 -
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Darth Carbonite Tokila wrote:Vudra Keerah wrote:To clarify that was Unreal Engine 3 (Project Legion) as opposed to Unreal Engine 4 with the new prototype that will be demoed in April? Correct, although the exact wording in the announcement was "An update at EVE Fanfest on April 21st." Whether that includes any demos or presentations is still to be publicly determined. Hopefully we will all have a better idea of what will happen when we get the Fanfest schedule.
From what I have read it is a prototype. I can only assume that this will be a VR exclusive? |
Pleasure Hub Node-514
Pleasure Hub Hotline
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Posted - 2016.03.30 09:04:55 -
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Vudra Keerah wrote:From what I have read it is a prototype. I can only assume that this will be a VR exclusive?
I really hope it's not VR exclusive.
'One night hauler' The tell all story of a pleasure bot in Jita 4-4
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DaReaper
Net 7
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Posted - 2016.03.30 19:55:16 -
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Noroswen wrote:XeX Znndstrup wrote:Mike Adoulin wrote:Maybe 5 years from now CCP will try again. Given their track record, I don't hold out much hope of it working then, either. They may also see it as a challenge to prove they will now stop vaporware for THE product. In fact, they need. Because not sure they will make cash with Gunjack and Valkyrie. Moreover, you may assume that they first used Sony funding to build a first product. With the idea to develop the final release with this new version of Dust. Video game business needs cash. And sometimes you have to think about not so simple strategy to finance a software. I think Valkyrie will do fairly well. I mean if I have the 600 to throw down on OR and another 300 for a new graphics card I would gladly do so. Ive also noticed there seem to be a large number of people who have that kind of disposable income. As for Gunjack.... Well we shall see how that goes, I don;t know how they plan to monetize it so anything is possible I guess.
Gunjack is a one time fee of $10. its a simple rail shooter, or galaga in VR. Porting to the Rift, and the Vive and the PSVR will get them plenty of money, as it was, from what we know, relatively cheap to make. Its some at least 5k copies on gear VR, and thats just form review numbers. who knows how many were sold
OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining!
Yes i am optimistic about eve.. i'm giving it till dec 31st 2016 before i doom n gloom
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DaReaper
Net 7
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Posted - 2016.03.30 19:59:23 -
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Pleasure Hub Node-514 wrote:Vudra Keerah wrote:From what I have read it is a prototype. I can only assume that this will be a VR exclusive? I really hope it's not VR exclusive.
Fozzie mentioned that when they got the 30m for VR, that doing an FPS is VR is difficult. Esp multiplayer. So.. thats prolly not happening. And from what we are seeing the 30m is going to Project Arena, which i think might become EVE: Mind clash but we will see at FF
OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining!
Yes i am optimistic about eve.. i'm giving it till dec 31st 2016 before i doom n gloom
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Darth Carbonite Tokila
Random Gunz The-Office
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Posted - 2016.03.30 20:59:20 -
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Vudra Keerah wrote:From what I have read it is a prototype. I can only assume that this will be a VR exclusive?
Can't give you a straight yes or no to that, but I highly doubt it.
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XeX Znndstrup
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Posted - 2016.03.31 08:54:37 -
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And, of course, no VR only, please.
Judge of The Law Organization and President of Stellar Order.
"Long is the way, and hard, that out of hell leads up to light". John Milton, Lost Paradise.
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Velarra
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Posted - 2016.04.06 14:27:40 -
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One game, one world, one character. It'd be nice to use the same name/character in multiple genre games - space, fps, vr, etc. |
Velarra
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Posted - 2016.04.06 15:43:29 -
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Opertone wrote:I agree.
No world of tank.
In fact World of Tank is horrible to me, that I can't even stand it. I am a veteran player of quality 3D powerhouse Battlefield series. World of tanks compared to Battlefield experience is like HD TV film compared to black and white. Or worse, like TV film vs grandmothers tales.
lacking graphics, lacking physics, and people with no real skill. not a quality product. but surprisingly mass appeal.
Then i'm going to guess you've not played or looked at WoT in a long time.
At the present moment its issues are primarily down to general balancing (of the easily accessible free tanks), an aging game engine, and related game play design traits. Finally the worst aspect is actually its overwhelmingly egocentric and acutely toxic player base.
However, quality of graphics (textures, model complexity), modern physics, awesome realistic sound and anything remotely pay to win are not any of its primary problems.
Its problems are very much game mode design, aspirations of being an e-sport yet failing to capture mass e-sport appeal, as well as an incredibly toxic social environment due to its player base's various levels of maturity and obsession with statistics.
These failings really kill what is otherwise a wonderful F2P game with some very amusing in-match, immersive amusement once you're actually playing. |
Meryl SinGarda
Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde
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Posted - 2016.04.09 05:52:26 -
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What they could do is beef up Dust 514 and you know, release it on PC where it should've gone in the first place
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Akrasjel Lanate
Naquatech Conglomerate Naquatech Syndicate
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Posted - 2016.04.09 09:28:27 -
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Less than two weeks
Akrasjel Lanate
Founder and CEO of Naquatech Conglomerate
Executor of Naquatech Syndicate
Citizen of Solitude
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Noroswen
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2016.04.15 23:44:34 -
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Well fanfest schedule is out. Looks like we won't be getting much more than what they say in the Keynote and maybe closing ceremonies. Not a single presentation, Q/A, or panel on FPS. |
Darth Carbonite Tokila
Random Gunz The-Office
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Posted - 2016.04.16 06:50:26 -
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As it has been since before the announcement, they are keeping details close.
Don't give up hope until you see what they have
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Malissa Radort
ICE is Coming to EVE Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2016.04.16 21:43:36 -
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I expect a lot of Legion. But I've only see "expecting post" of players, and nothing from CCP.
CCP have fail all of they're project else EvE. IDK if they will really start an other. |
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MidnightWyvern
Night Theifs
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Posted - 2016.04.17 03:00:58 -
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Personally, since I think it's highly unlikely we will see the release of this new game anytime soon, I think a neat first step might be to finally implement Walking-in-Stations in EVE, but also in the new game.
If you think about it, shared social areas would be a very strong link between the games in terms of feeling like you're sharing the same world. That could be a starting point and then the harder parts of building a gameplay link could be worked on over time.
Malissa Radort wrote:I expect a lot of Legion. But I've only see "expecting post" of players, and nothing from CCP.
CCP have fail all of they're project else EvE. IDK if they will really start an other. How do you figure that Valkyrie and Gunjack are both failures?
Rattati Senpai noticed us! See you in the next FPS!
Alts: Saray Wyvern, Mobius Wyvern (Dust 514)
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Lateris
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Posted - 2016.04.17 04:10:29 -
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Will we see the presentation of the FPS new Eden PC at the Key note?
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Noroswen
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2016.04.17 10:47:49 -
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MidnightWyvern wrote:Personally, since I think it's highly unlikely we will see the release of this new game anytime soon, I think a neat first step might be to finally implement Walking-in-Stations in EVE, but also in the new game. If you think about it, shared social areas would be a very strong link between the games in terms of feeling like you're sharing the same world. That could be a starting point and then the harder parts of building a gameplay link could be worked on over time. Malissa Radort wrote:I expect a lot of Legion. But I've only see "expecting post" of players, and nothing from CCP.
CCP have fail all of they're project else EvE. IDK if they will really start an other. How do you figure that Valkyrie and Gunjack are both failures?
Yeah I agree CCPs projects have consisted of Eve, Dust, WoD, Valkyrie, and Gunjack, Yeah okay they screwed up Dust and canceled WoD. But Valkyrie was actually completely unplanned. When Valkyrie was first conceptualized it was a tech demo. Hilmar even said when he brought the Oculus guy on stage he actually mentioned using it for WiS rather than Valkyrie. Valkyrie was such a hit though that ignoring the idea of turning it into a game would have been silly. Whether it is a failure financially due to the cost of VR or not still remains to be seen.
As for Gunjack, I don't know a whole lot about this project other than what it is. Neat idea but again still to early to say.
Essentially though the only projects CCP has not succeeded at where Dust and WoD. Even then hopefully dust continues to live on through FPS New Eden. |
Malissa Radort
ICE is Coming to EVE Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2016.04.17 13:50:41 -
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Valkyrie is already a fail. Because the game is badly think.
There is no link with EvE, there is no interrest, it's just a PvP arcade shooter with nothing else.
It's a F2P? YEAH you need a 600Gé¼+ stuff for play to a F2P.
Gunjack? Let's see the Steam: http://store.steampowered.com/app/410570/
Well, juste read comment and understand this is a huge fail. Now I wait for Legion news, and there is 2 solution, they cancel that, or they will say nothing (same finally no?)
CCP love wast money in badly think project. |
XeX Znndstrup
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Posted - 2016.04.18 10:55:59 -
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Wait, see, keep your imagination, don't care about vaporware and analyze products when they will be there. Read reviews and community feedback. Decide. And, of course, buy if ok.
That's the best behaviour. Time of "stupid" purchasers who buy like believers is out. That's a new challenge for CCP now.
Judge of The Law Organization and President of Stellar Order.
"Long is the way, and hard, that out of hell leads up to light". John Milton, Lost Paradise.
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Jadek Kin
Incorruptibles
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Posted - 2016.04.18 14:19:11 -
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Darth Carbonite Tokila wrote:As it has been since before the announcement, they are keeping details close. Don't give up hope until you see what they have CCP is merging the next Dust game into a shared gameplay experience with Eve Valkyrie. |
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