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Sheeth Athonille
Rabid Dogz Mining The Bastion
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Posted - 2016.04.22 11:53:39 -
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Aurure wrote: 2) If the Rorq can make ISK on it's own rather than boosting the ISK/hr OTHERS make, the same economic rules will apply as they do on a Retriever. If it pays itself off before it dies, it's making profit. 2.a) How much do you think it has to pull at current prices to come into the profitable zone? The answer will shock you: About 300m ISK before it dies. This will obviously change, but just know that those "stupid guys" ratting AFK in a Carrier in nullsec take about 5-10 hours of AFKing to pay for the whole carrier. And if they multibox 10 afk carriers, they actually need 1 hour to replace one if it gets shot down. If you now think "but what if all 10 get shot down?" then you overestimate the stupidity of said players. Even if so, 10 hours, all replaced. Same will happen for the Rorq. Maybe not 10 hours, but we will see.
Don't forget you have to compare it to what they'd be making in a smaller ship as well. If a Rorq is mining the same amount as a retriever (hypothetical) then you could make the same amount per hour in a retriever and would have no reason to use the Rorq regardless of how fast you can make the isk back. So the only real benefit of the rorq is still going to be boosting others. Now the boosting will quickly make it worthwhile, but you can't forget that. A rorq mining on its own in a belt is probably never going to be worth it unless it's able to pull in more than a fully skilled hulk.
Carriers are a little different since they actually make more isk/hr than any other afk ratting ship. |
Lord Ra
Section XII The Southern Querious Drug Cartel
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Posted - 2016.04.22 12:01:23 -
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Citadels have an area of invuln within its proximity kinda like a pos bubble but depends how big it is i guess, there is a glimmer of hope but tbh the rorq can roll the **** over and die in my eyes. |
Do Little
Virgin Plc Evictus.
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Posted - 2016.04.23 07:58:30 -
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Return on investment for a Rorqual (or other ship) needs to include the insurance premium. Not sure what that is for a Rorqual but it's roughly 1/3 the payout for platinum on most T1 hulls.
The "defensive superweapon" depends on the availability of a rescue fleet - otherwise it simply prolongs the agony. Might work for large, well organized alliances but for smaller groups, a stealth defense - perhaps dscan immunity - would be a lot more useful.
I expect we'll see a lot of command destroyers and T1 battlecruisers providing mining boosts once the on grid AoE rules are implemented. |
Marcus Tedric
Zebra Corp Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2016.04.23 10:49:20 -
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As long as the Rorq' boosts will now work without using the Rorqual (hopefully replaced) Industrial Module; ie deployed - then the best thing for a Rorqual will be a cloak and MWD.
Mining and Instant Compression. The 'super-weapon' for emergencies only if friends are handy.
Don't soil your panties, you guys made a good point, we'll look at the numbers again. - CCP Ytterbium
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Mark O'Helm
Fam. Zimin von Reizgenschwendt
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Posted - 2016.04.23 13:22:42 -
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Marcus Tedric wrote:As long as the Rorq' boosts will now work without using the Rorqual (hopefully replaced) Industrial Module; ie deployed - then the best thing for a Rorqual will be a cloak and MWD.
Mining and Instant Compression. The 'super-weapon' for emergencies only if friends are handy. That are big dreams man. But i don't think so.
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