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xalus morbine
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Posted - 2007.01.31 05:21:00 -
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I have decided to take the route of being a sniper with my characture. I have just finished training Assault ships 4 and I fly a Harpy. next i plan on training long range targeting 4, signal analasis 4, t2 hybrids and t2 standard missiles, gunnery 5, and all my gunnery support skills to 4 before moving onto an Eagle and maybe someday a t2 fitted Rohk. My question is are there any skills or mods tht can lower your signature radius, or increase signal resolution on guns? as anyting to increase my ships accuracy or decrease it's footprint would be desireable. thanks for reading
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Disco Flint
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.01.31 10:19:00 -
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Sadly no, there's no way to reduce your signature or your guns signature resolution.
Except for the Halo implant sets of course, but they're a bit heavy on the wallet
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Mastin Dragonfly
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.01.31 11:04:00 -
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You can use target painters to increase the signate radius of your opponent.
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Marine HK4861
Caldari Seoltachd
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Posted - 2007.01.31 12:47:00 -
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Edited by: Marine HK4861 on 31/01/2007 12:43:55 A set of Halo pirate implants will reduce your ship's signature radius.
Edit: Bah, didn't read Flint's reply thoroughly.
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DaveyE
Shiva Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.01.31 12:59:00 -
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Edited by: DaveyE on 31/01/2007 12:56:51 Forget Target Painters in a Sniper (Your shooting out to 200+ , Target Painters dont do that)
Halo,s for reduced sig rad
My Eagle Setup (No Friggie is safe-lol)
4 X T2 250 Rails, 2 T2 Assault Launchers (in case the inties get too close)
2 x T2 Tracking Comps, 3 X T2 Sensor Boosters (3 secs on a shuttle - lock time)
3 Mag Stabs, (over 9.00 damage modifier) 1 Tracking Enhancer
Get your skills high, but especially HAC 5 (Do you realise that gives you 10% extra on your optimal and 5% damage, Its the one HAC you do want to go to level 5 with) Sharpshooter. Rapid Firing, Surgical Strike eg all maxed
All shuttles die in 1 volley All Friggies in 1 unless they have a high Trans-versal Interceptors in 2-3 same as above
Eagle is the best small ship sniper bar none We use em to protect the sniping BS,s from interceptors, Use 2-3 in fleet and nothing gets close
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Neuromandis
EPSILON TEAM Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.01.31 13:52:00 -
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Edited by: Neuromandis on 31/01/2007 13:49:39
Originally by: DaveyE
My Eagle Setup (No Friggie is safe-lol) 4 X T2 250 Rails, 2 T2 Assault Launchers (in case the inties get too close) 2 x T2 Tracking Comps, 3 X T2 Sensor Boosters (3 secs on a shuttle - lock time) 3 Mag Stabs, (over 9.00 damage modifier) 1 Tracking Enhancer Get your skills high, but especially HAC 5 (Do you realise that gives you 10% extra on your optimal and 5% damage, Its the one HAC you do want to go to level 5 with) Sharpshooter. Rapid Firing, Surgical Strike eg all maxed All shuttles die in 1 volley All Friggies in 1 unless they have a high Trans-versal Interceptors in 2-3 same as above Eagle is the best small ship sniper bar none We use em to protect the sniping BS,s from interceptors, Use 2-3 in fleet and nothing gets close
Errr... Does the tracking enhancer actually help anywhere seeing as it's stacknerfable and all? I could find a module or two that should be more useful...
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xalus morbine
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Posted - 2007.01.31 17:43:00 -
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Thanks for the great answers! That eagle setup especially sounds awsome! I have a couple more questions. It sounds like reducing sig is an expensive prospect but it may be worth it to prevent damage from the big guns. Do any of you know the math used to determin hit chance related to sig radius and a guns sig resolution? These probably belongs in the mods forum, but would the halo sig effect stack with the mind link that reduces sig? Lastly can autotargeters be set to target any nuetral or hostile? Or only hostiles. I was thinking my harpy could be a pretty good pod popper if i'm fast enough. At least till i get to hac
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Disco Flint
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.02.01 00:39:00 -
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Originally by: xalus morbine Thanks for the great answers! That eagle setup especially sounds awsome! I have a couple more questions. It sounds like reducing sig is an expensive prospect but it may be worth it to prevent damage from the big guns. Do any of you know the math used to determin hit chance related to sig radius and a guns sig resolution? These probably belongs in the mods forum, but would the halo sig effect stack with the mind link that reduces sig? Lastly can autotargeters be set to target any nuetral or hostile? Or only hostiles. I was thinking my harpy could be a pretty good pod popper if i'm fast enough. At least till i get to hac
You're looking at ~150-200m for a low grade halo set (including the omega) and hellIdontwantoknow for a standard Halo set. A low grade Halo set will reduce your sig by about 18% if I remember that correctly. Having no experience with one myself I can't say if it's worth it or not, but I'd hazard a guess and say that it's really nice to have on interceptors and assault frigs. But for cruisers and up, especially the fat Caldari ones, .. you wont be evading that much fire with it, not worth it.
As for the link thingy, there's a skirmish warfare link which reduces the gangs signature, again for a total of 20-25% with maxed skills and the skirmish mindlink in the operators head. You'll need someone in a Claymore with that warfare link tho, this person needs really good leadership skills and the skirmish mindlink. Which doesn't come cheap either.
Signature changes don't get stacking penalized, so you should get the full effect of both, the Halo set & the gang bonus. However, I really have my concerns about the viability of such an endeavour.
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Karasu Kaizoku
Caldari Project Mortormis
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Posted - 2007.02.01 16:52:00 -
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Eagles are too expensive to lose but I guess so is the Rokh. Personally I would just go for the Rokh for a sniper platform, more range and higher damage. Use target paints for more accuracy.* - CCP are forum ****'s for removing a signature .00001 byte over the limit.* |
DaveyE
Shiva Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.02.02 12:57:00 -
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Originally by: Neuromandis Edited by: Neuromandis on 31/01/2007 13:49:39
Originally by: DaveyE
My Eagle Setup (No Friggie is safe-lol) 4 X T2 250 Rails, 2 T2 Assault Launchers (in case the inties get too close) 2 x T2 Tracking Comps, 3 X T2 Sensor Boosters (3 secs on a shuttle - lock time) 3 Mag Stabs, (over 9.00 damage modifier) 1 Tracking Enhancer Get your skills high, but especially HAC 5 (Do you realise that gives you 10% extra on your optimal and 5% damage, Its the one HAC you do want to go to level 5 with) Sharpshooter. Rapid Firing, Surgical Strike eg all maxed All shuttles die in 1 volley All Friggies in 1 unless they have a high Trans-versal Interceptors in 2-3 same as above Eagle is the best small ship sniper bar none We use em to protect the sniping BS,s from interceptors, Use 2-3 in fleet and nothing gets close
Errr... Does the tracking enhancer actually help anywhere seeing as it's stacknerfable and all? I could find a module or two that should be more useful...
Well Anything you add on a 3rd stacking point gets just over 50% of its available goodness :)) eg: 1 sensor booster would get 100% effectiveness 2 is about 70%, and 3 is about 50% - if i remember correctly
Now yes, there are other mods i could add in, but I want the extra damage for insta popping
My only probs are if i run into 5-6 sniping BS at the gate (like in YZ-LQL) LOL - i lasted 7 seconds - not even time to align or If a group of inties get close, but i sort by distance any intie within 50 km and i,m outa there (i,m already up to speed and aligned btw) oh and watch for the Gallente Fleet recon, with that scramble range you can also have trouble
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DaveyE
Shiva Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.02.02 13:01:00 -
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Originally by: Karasu Kaizoku Eagles are too expensive to lose but I guess so is the Rokh. Personally I would just go for the Rokh for a sniper platform, more range and higher damage. Use target paints for more accuracy.*
If your sniping HACS and above = YES But a Rokh wont match an Eagle for getting rid of pesky Inties or Dictors (unless there standing still LOL) I say again Nothing can match the Eagle for sniping SMALL (Less than cruiser) Targets and if your in a BS Fleet A few (2-3) Eagles are your best friends as no intie should get close
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easei
Caldari Energy.
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Posted - 2007.02.02 14:31:00 -
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Guns aren't like missles sig radius only adds or subtracts from your chance to hit. Unlike missles that do less damage to smaller targets you will hit for full damage. Sig radius is never a problem as with a MWD on a frig will have a cruiser-battlecruiser sized sig. Your issue will always be tracking. max your tracking skills gunnery 5 motion prediction 5 and then train a few levels of trajectory analysis for tech 2 tracking computers.
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Niraco79
Gallente Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.02.03 11:07:00 -
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Originally by: Karasu Kaizoku Eagles are too expensive to lose but I guess so is the Rokh. Personally I would just go for the Rokh for a sniper platform, more range and higher damage. Use target paints for more accuracy.*
target painter does NOT work at 200km ../me point to item description to the optimal range and fallout ________________ THE MEGA NOOB
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