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Humaid Ellecon
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2016.02.08 15:27:57 -
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So it was a regular day in new eden. Im heading to jita for the first time so i go to a station after arriving. I saw a bunch of mobile depos or whatever they're called for a christian cross with some names which i believe are quotes from the bible.( Im posting this while its happening). There is also one called hitler did nothing wrong. What is going on. Somebody tell me. |
Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
44443
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Posted - 2016.02.08 15:35:29 -
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What's going on?
Isn't it obvious? Someone put down mobile depots in a pattern. It happens all the time.
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Nana Skalski
Poseidaon
4907
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Posted - 2016.02.08 15:37:49 -
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If it is offensive to you, report it.
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Pandora Carrollon
Kingsman Tailors
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Posted - 2016.02.08 15:45:02 -
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I was going to put this as a new topic but I'll just toss my weekend observation into this threads 'weird' bucket as well. I didn't make it all the way to Jita (thank heavens, hear it was a zoo!) but I did cruise through Uedama several times. What was up with all the traffic and people going nuts over the Sivala gate?
I saw tons of Oblisks and other large escorted convoys as well as a bunch of scanner players around the gates. It was like madness yesterday. Did I miss some event announcement? Just someone 'in the know' passing on inside info about the convoys?
Someone tried to warp scram me jumping in from Sivala in my little Atron (running empty). Had to laugh, I had nothing of real value on the ship (just some railgun charges for my rails in the cargo bay). Lucky when I'm set up for quick runs like I was I have two stabilizers on board.
So, I don't get the behavior, Uedama is still HiSec at the gates and stations, who tries to lock up and attack an empty micro frigate? I mean scrams count as offensive behavior don't they? Maybe I'm missing some loophole in the rule.
As far as preachy mobile depot names go, you can name them anything I think. I'm not entirely sure but I think you can also name containers.
I do know that if I running around in my pod, I'll name it something either micro small like a "." or something totally wrong like "Ghengis Buns Dominix", sometimes all you need is that half second of indecision to get out of a jam! |
Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
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Posted - 2016.02.08 15:56:55 -
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M-Depo "art" can range from whitty sayings to giant knobs, much like graffiti .
Report anything along the lines of holocaust denial or racism , that **** is well out of order and has no place here.
Better the Devil you know.
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Memphis Baas
1080
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Posted - 2016.02.08 15:59:30 -
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Pandora Carrollon wrote:So, I don't get the behavior, Uedama is still HiSec at the gates and stations, who tries to lock up and attack an empty micro frigate? I mean scrams count as offensive behavior don't they? Maybe I'm missing some loophole in the rule.
The thing with micro frigates is they align so fast that the pirates don't have time to scan your cargo beforehand, to make a decision. And there have been so many instances of shuttles or fast atrons piloted by "newbie" characters flying around with PLEX, Blueprint originals, implants, or millions of ISK in salvage, that the pirates are willing to take a chance.
Basically, kill all fast frigates / shuttles. If even one of them drops the PLEX, that will make their day.
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Sobaan Tali
Caldari Quick Reaction Force
801
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Posted - 2016.02.08 16:02:05 -
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Welcome to the home of literally every troll on the internet; a major market hub, and THE major market hub at that. Please, mind the bull**** and watch your step.
(not really, but it sure feels like that at times)
Also, if it does seriously becomes bothersome, screen cap and petition it and have CCP take a look at it (if they haven't already noticed it yet). Let them take the necessary actions should it come to that. People sometimes like to put up religious billboards and ads in Eve all the time. Personally, it's rude to do that and doesn't belong in a video game, but then again I'm only one Eve citizen.
"Tomahawks?"
"----in' A, right?"
"Trouble is, those things cost like a million and a half each."
"----, you pay me half that and I'll hump in some c4 and blow the ---- out of it my own damn self."
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Remiel Pollard
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
7511
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Posted - 2016.02.08 16:05:36 -
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Humaid Ellecon wrote:So it was a regular day in new eden. Im heading to jita for the first time so i go to a station after arriving. I saw a bunch of mobile depos or whatever they're called for a christian cross with some names which i believe are quotes from the bible.( Im posting this while its happening). There is also one called hitler did nothing wrong. What is going on. Somebody tell me.
It's called trolling. Trolling is intended to cause a reaction. In this case, it seems to have worked.
GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'.
Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥
- Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
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Pandora Carrollon
Kingsman Tailors
15
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Posted - 2016.02.08 16:07:50 -
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Memphis Baas wrote:The thing with micro frigates is they align so fast that the pirates don't have time to scan your cargo beforehand, to make a decision. And there have been so many instances of shuttles or fast atrons piloted by "newbie" characters flying around with PLEX, Blueprint originals, implants, or millions of ISK in salvage, that the pirates are willing to take a chance.
Basically, kill all fast frigates / shuttles. If even one of them drops the PLEX, that will make their day.
Ah, that sort of makes sense. However, if I were actually hauling that kind of stuff I'd be in a Ares and stable as heck and almost unlockable. I also wouldn't haul it through a choke point like Uedama during normal US gaming hours.
I was still jump cloaked as well, so I was also surprised that you can lock up someone under cloak. I didn't start to decloak until I was already warping to the next gate. I've gotten pretty fast at transitions. I'm always going to pick up skill books from here or there to inject new skills.
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Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
14039
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Posted - 2016.02.08 16:24:07 -
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Pandora Carrollon wrote:Memphis Baas wrote:The thing with micro frigates is they align so fast that the pirates don't have time to scan your cargo beforehand, to make a decision. And there have been so many instances of shuttles or fast atrons piloted by "newbie" characters flying around with PLEX, Blueprint originals, implants, or millions of ISK in salvage, that the pirates are willing to take a chance.
Basically, kill all fast frigates / shuttles. If even one of them drops the PLEX, that will make their day.
Ah, that sort of makes sense. However, if I were actually hauling that kind of stuff I'd be in a Ares and stable as heck and almost unlockable. I also wouldn't haul it through a choke point like Uedama during normal US gaming hours. I was still jump cloaked as well, so I was also surprised that you can lock up someone under cloak. I didn't start to decloak until I was already warping to the next gate. I've gotten pretty fast at transitions. I'm always going to pick up skill books from here or there to inject new skills. You can't , the cloaking gfx are misleading , cloaks are binary eg on or off, the second you issue a command you drop cloak and are lockable, the gfx of the cloak are irrelevant.
Better the Devil you know.
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Jarsoom Blade
Blade's Legion
32
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Posted - 2016.02.08 16:31:15 -
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Humaid Ellecon wrote:So it was a regular day in new eden. Im heading to jita for the first time so i go to a station after arriving. I saw a bunch of mobile depos or whatever they're called for a christian cross with some names which i believe are quotes from the bible.( Im posting this while its happening). There is also one called hitler did nothing wrong. What is going on. Somebody tell me.
You were viewing it upside down. It's actually Kylo Ren's handicap-lightsaber.
This is EVE
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Yonis Kador
KADORCORP
588
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Posted - 2016.02.08 16:48:39 -
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There was a guy who used to drop cans with Bible verses at every gate in my region. It was annoying af just for their immersion-breaking quality. You'd go to church every time you flew to Amarr. But short of wardeccing the corp and destroying them, which is what happened to those, I'm not sure what else you can do about it. |
Pix Severus
Empty You
2874
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Posted - 2016.02.08 17:06:16 -
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Pandora Carrollon wrote:I was going to put this as a new topic but I'll just toss my weekend observation into this threads 'weird' bucket as well. I didn't make it all the way to Jita (thank heavens, hear it was a zoo!) but I did cruise through Uedama several times. What was up with all the traffic and people going nuts over the Sivala gate?
Uedama is pretty much the ganking capital of highsec these days, you'll find CODE. and Goons ganking freighters in that area regularly.
Pandora Carrollon wrote:So, I don't get the behavior, Uedama is still HiSec at the gates and stations, who tries to lock up and attack an empty micro frigate? I mean scrams count as offensive behavior don't they? Maybe I'm missing some loophole in the rule.
What they're really after is your juicy pod inside, which could be worth billions. If you use autopilot, you're a target.
My lord.
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Grauth Thorner
Vicious Trading Company
437
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Posted - 2016.02.08 17:50:13 -
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Pandora Carrollon wrote:... Lucky when I'm set up for quick runs like I was I have two stabilizers on board. ... I prefer agility over stabilizers.
Create your own in-game shiplabels:
>EVE Custom Ship Labeler application forum thread
>iciclesoft.com
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Yonis Kador
KADORCORP
588
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Posted - 2016.02.08 18:06:13 -
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The situation in Jita:
http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1602/Jita_Cross.jpg
The situation in Amarr:
http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1602/Amarr_Cross.jpg
Quotes on cans are one thing but this is just stupid. I surely do not want Christian iconography larger than a station to remain floating in space indefinitely. Hopefully someone will destroy these things after they come out of reinforced mode. |
Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
14041
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Posted - 2016.02.08 18:16:52 -
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Yonis Kador wrote: Hopefully someone will destroy these things after they come out of reinforced mode. you realize there are mercenaries who do literally nothing other than hump those two stations right?
Better the Devil you know.
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Lan Wang
Knights of the Posing Meat FETID
2391
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Posted - 2016.02.08 18:23:31 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Yonis Kador wrote: Hopefully someone will destroy these things after they come out of reinforced mode. you realize there are mercenaries who do literally nothing other than hump those two stations right?
just use a vindicator, will be so quick the mercs wont even see it
"Yeah. Put your tears in a jet can and leave them on your undock for your assailants to pick up. If they're camping you, I'm sure they're going to get thirsty." - Darth Squeemus
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Yonis Kador
KADORCORP
588
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Posted - 2016.02.08 18:26:33 -
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Yea to be fair, I doubt they'll last long... which is why I didn't report it. And, in Jita, it looks like players are already anchoring more depots to turn the cross into a different shape until the timers expire.
Still pretty stupid. Players shouldn't have to be proselytized to visit a trade hub. |
Pandora Carrollon
Kingsman Tailors
16
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Posted - 2016.02.08 19:26:40 -
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Yonis Kador wrote:Yea to be fair, I doubt they'll last long... which is why I didn't report it. And, in Jita, it looks like players are already anchoring more depots to turn the cross into a different shape until the timers expire.
Still pretty stupid. Players shouldn't have to be proselytized to visit a trade hub.
Not sure I'd consider just viewing a cross or seeing bible references as being proselytized. I mean if a player types in local "Allah Akhubar" in local before they try to blow me out of space am I supposed to take that as "Convert or Die" or just "Die in the name of my God" or something? Most things we see in this world are a function of our own perception. Generally speaking, if you are strong enough in your sense of self and what you believe in, nothing anyone else did in front of you or to you would have any real impact on who you were or what you believed. In other words, we choose to allow stuff to bother us or not, regardless of someone else's intent or perceived intent. |
Pandora Carrollon
Kingsman Tailors
16
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Posted - 2016.02.08 19:29:44 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:You can't , the cloaking gfx are misleading , cloaks are binary eg on or off, the second you issue a command you drop cloak and are lockable, the gfx of the cloak are irrelevant.
Thank you so much! I didn't know that. I was misled by the effect in assuming there was a period of sensor 'fuzziness'.
Man, how do we newbies even survive this stuff! LOL!
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Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
14045
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Posted - 2016.02.08 19:37:37 -
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Pandora Carrollon wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:You can't , the cloaking gfx are misleading , cloaks are binary eg on or off, the second you issue a command you drop cloak and are lockable, the gfx of the cloak are irrelevant. Thank you so much! I didn't know that. I was misled by the effect in assuming there was a period of sensor 'fuzziness'. Man, how do we newbies even survive this stuff! LOL! You don't , thankfully you're immoral
Better the Devil you know.
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Pandora Carrollon
Kingsman Tailors
16
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Posted - 2016.02.08 19:38:07 -
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Pix Severus wrote:Uedama is pretty much the ganking capital of highsec these days, you'll find CODE. and Goons ganking freighters in that area regularly. I'd heard that before but for the last 2 weeks I've been flying that route, Uedama has been pretty quiet. Thus the 'weirdness' of it.
I have to admit, seeing all those large Jump Freighters with military escorts cruising around was pretty cool.
Pix Severus wrote:What they're really after is your juicy pod inside, which could be worth billions. If you use autopilot, you're a target.
I stay away from autopilot if I can help it at all. I can only wish I get good enough to have a ship carrying 'billions' at some point... LOL! Thanks for the enlightenment.
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Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
14045
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Posted - 2016.02.08 19:51:25 -
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There's been some drama in the mercenary scene of late with a lot of it centring around marmite (who have owned uedama for years) and I think that's what's been up with the system the last couple of weeks. it's been suspiciously quiet there for too long What you are seeing is a return to form, business as usual so to speak.
Better the Devil you know.
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Pandora Carrollon
Kingsman Tailors
16
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Posted - 2016.02.08 20:12:49 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:There's been some drama in the mercenary scene of late with a lot of it centring around marmite (who have owned uedama for years) and I think that's what's been up with the system the last couple of weeks. it's been suspiciously quiet there for too long What you are seeing is a return to form, business as usual so to speak.
Thanks again. Now I know to be a little more paranoid going through there. I avoid it with my freighter/ore carrier, but usually cruise through there with fast point and shoot ships like my Atron. Maybe I'll just keep it fitted out for that run until I have enough skill to handle an Ares.
Always learning... thanks everyone!
(BTW, thanks for the "Immoral" comment, I think you meant "Immortal" but I laughed at the other way!) |
Yonis Kador
KADORCORP
588
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Posted - 2016.02.08 20:16:23 -
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Pandora Carrollon wrote:Yonis Kador wrote:Yea to be fair, I doubt they'll last long... which is why I didn't report it. And, in Jita, it looks like players are already anchoring more depots to turn the cross into a different shape until the timers expire.
Still pretty stupid. Players shouldn't have to be proselytized to visit a trade hub. Not sure I'd consider just viewing a cross or seeing bible references as being proselytized. I mean if a player types in local "Allah Akhubar" in local before they try to blow me out of space am I supposed to take that as "Convert or Die" or just "Die in the name of my God" or something? Most things we see in this world are a function of our own perception. Generally speaking, if you are strong enough in your sense of self and what you believe in, nothing anyone else did in front of you or to you would have any real impact on who you were or what you believed. In other words, we choose to allow stuff to bother us or not, regardless of someone else's intent or perceived intent.
But it's not "just viewing a cross" is it? It's a 500' tall glowing red cross that dwarfs a station and contains dozens of selected Bible verses. You cannot miss it or opt out of seeing it. I mean, why do we fly spaceships in this game? Why not cars and buses? Because EVE is a sci-fi space game and to that end, immersion matters. Maybe it doesn't matter to you and that's fantastic. But I'm Yonis Kador and I can guarantee you, it ***** with my immersion. It's not like players have unlimited freedoms with speech in-game anyway. If that cross was instead a giant penis with dozens of **** jokes hovering above Jita, I'm sure CCP would remove it. In both cases all I see is someone taking a giant dump on the game I love and yea... that offends me. **** me for caring about EVE. |
Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
14046
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Posted - 2016.02.08 20:32:29 -
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Yonis Kador wrote:Pandora Carrollon wrote:Yonis Kador wrote:Yea to be fair, I doubt they'll last long... which is why I didn't report it. And, in Jita, it looks like players are already anchoring more depots to turn the cross into a different shape until the timers expire.
Still pretty stupid. Players shouldn't have to be proselytized to visit a trade hub. Not sure I'd consider just viewing a cross or seeing bible references as being proselytized. I mean if a player types in local "Allah Akhubar" in local before they try to blow me out of space am I supposed to take that as "Convert or Die" or just "Die in the name of my God" or something? Most things we see in this world are a function of our own perception. Generally speaking, if you are strong enough in your sense of self and what you believe in, nothing anyone else did in front of you or to you would have any real impact on who you were or what you believed. In other words, we choose to allow stuff to bother us or not, regardless of someone else's intent or perceived intent. But it's not "just viewing a cross" is it? It's a 500' tall glowing red cross that dwarfs a station and contains dozens of selected Bible verses. You cannot miss it or opt out of seeing it. I mean, why do we fly spaceships in this game? Why not cars and buses? Because EVE is a sci-fi space game and to that end, immersion matters. Maybe it doesn't matter to you and that's fantastic. But I'm Yonis Kador and I can guarantee you, it ***** with my immersion. It's not like players have unlimited freedoms with speech in-game anyway. If that cross was instead a giant penis with dozens of **** jokes hovering above Jita, I'm sure CCP would remove it. In both cases all I see is someone taking a giant dump on the game I love and yea... that offends me. **** me for caring about EVE. To be fair it's usually a 500 foot tall glowing red p3nis that dwarf the station and contains dozens of selected and colourful insults .
As I've mentioned , there a permanent mercenary presence there, pay them and they will take it down .
Better the Devil you know.
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Corvald Tyrska
Dha'Vargar
60
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Posted - 2016.02.08 23:23:03 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Yonis Kador wrote:Pandora Carrollon wrote:Yonis Kador wrote:Yea to be fair, I doubt they'll last long... which is why I didn't report it. And, in Jita, it looks like players are already anchoring more depots to turn the cross into a different shape until the timers expire.
Still pretty stupid. Players shouldn't have to be proselytized to visit a trade hub. Not sure I'd consider just viewing a cross or seeing bible references as being proselytized. I mean if a player types in local "Allah Akhubar" in local before they try to blow me out of space am I supposed to take that as "Convert or Die" or just "Die in the name of my God" or something? Most things we see in this world are a function of our own perception. Generally speaking, if you are strong enough in your sense of self and what you believe in, nothing anyone else did in front of you or to you would have any real impact on who you were or what you believed. In other words, we choose to allow stuff to bother us or not, regardless of someone else's intent or perceived intent. But it's not "just viewing a cross" is it? It's a 500' tall glowing red cross that dwarfs a station and contains dozens of selected Bible verses. You cannot miss it or opt out of seeing it. I mean, why do we fly spaceships in this game? Why not cars and buses? Because EVE is a sci-fi space game and to that end, immersion matters. Maybe it doesn't matter to you and that's fantastic. But I'm Yonis Kador and I can guarantee you, it ***** with my immersion. It's not like players have unlimited freedoms with speech in-game anyway. If that cross was instead a giant penis with dozens of **** jokes hovering above Jita, I'm sure CCP would remove it. In both cases all I see is someone taking a giant dump on the game I love and yea... that offends me. **** me for caring about EVE. To be fair it is usually a 500 foot tall glowing red penis that dwarfs the station and contains dozens of selected and colourful insults . As I've mentioned , there a permanent mercenary presence there, pay them and they will take it down .
Or just turn brackets off when approaching the station. It'll help your framerate too. |
Nat Silverguard
Aideron Robotics
268
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Posted - 2016.02.09 06:02:09 -
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Yonis Kador wrote:Pandora Carrollon wrote:Yonis Kador wrote:Yea to be fair, I doubt they'll last long... which is why I didn't report it. And, in Jita, it looks like players are already anchoring more depots to turn the cross into a different shape until the timers expire.
Still pretty stupid. Players shouldn't have to be proselytized to visit a trade hub. Not sure I'd consider just viewing a cross or seeing bible references as being proselytized. I mean if a player types in local "Allah Akhubar" in local before they try to blow me out of space am I supposed to take that as "Convert or Die" or just "Die in the name of my God" or something? Most things we see in this world are a function of our own perception. Generally speaking, if you are strong enough in your sense of self and what you believe in, nothing anyone else did in front of you or to you would have any real impact on who you were or what you believed. In other words, we choose to allow stuff to bother us or not, regardless of someone else's intent or perceived intent. But it's not "just viewing a cross" is it? It's a 500' tall glowing red cross that dwarfs a station and contains dozens of selected Bible verses. You cannot miss it or opt out of seeing it. I mean, why do we fly spaceships in this game? Why not cars and buses? Because EVE is a sci-fi space game and to that end, immersion matters. Maybe it doesn't matter to you and that's fantastic. But I'm Yonis Kador and I can guarantee you, it ***** with my immersion. It's not like players have unlimited freedoms with speech in-game anyway. If that cross was instead a giant penis with dozens of **** jokes hovering above Jita, I'm sure CCP would remove it. In both cases all I see is someone taking a giant dump on the game I love and yea... that offends me. **** me for caring about EVE.
were you "triggered"? o.O
Just Add Water
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Yonis Kador
KADORCORP
588
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Posted - 2016.02.09 06:53:02 -
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I think SP trading has me on edge haha. It's so close now. The stab is near. I've spent the last couple weeks feeling like nobody cares about EVE anymore or that maybe I've lost perspective. New Eden seems full of complacent want-it-nows and yes men. And I suspect it's going to get worse. But when I saw someone actually defending glowing Christian iconography 3x larger than a station, I just thought I'd give an enthusiastic response. I mean, wth. I've got a few last hurrahs in me yet... |
Ibutho Inkosi
Irubo Kovu
110
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Posted - 2016.02.09 07:10:47 -
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Only noobs and 12-year olds use the word "troll". Which are you?
As long as the tale of the hunt is told by the hunter, and not the lion, it will favor the hunter.
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