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Ivon Dragomiloff
Argentium Astrum
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Posted - 2016.02.09 19:07:03 -
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Sorry if this shows up in an odd spot but this is my first forum post and I'm not familiar with it yet. My comment on this latest update is about the tactical overlay. Before you could have it turned on or off. Now the blasted thing turns back on again every time you make a jump. This is very annoying !!! |
Xylem Viliana
Protomonolithic
357
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Posted - 2016.02.09 19:10:58 -
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The new camera has been tested very heavily by a very good person called Shab, He loves the new camera. I hve just heard him for the past 15 mins ranting about it. |
Jeven HouseBenyo
Fifty Shades of Funkyness LLC
308
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Posted - 2016.02.09 19:45:47 -
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I typed out a cutting synopsis of this February Release, and the decisions made in the last year or two by CCP on the direction they seem to have for Eve Online. Then realized.... it would most likely be either edited due to it being 'non-issue' posting, if not outright removed. So to a KISS version of it.
Short term gains vs. long term losses.
Question being:
Why does it appear CCP has taken the former as policy, damning with torpedoes and turning a purposeful blind eye to what the latter shall bring them as a viable company?
One account inactive since time's run out and I haven't thrown more at it. Three still active, waiting to see if it'll be worth adding more subscription time to them, in the face of current decision priorities in a glass tower very far from where I sit.
Very far in more than air mileage from here to there. Indeed.
>Jeven
Minny boat flyer, unofficial squeaky wheel.
'Game Ethics and Morality Monitor' I remember promises.
Snark at 11-24/7/365.25. Overshare? Yup.
Yes it's my fault. And if you don't staap it I'll do it again. ;-P
No you can't has my stuffs OR my SPs.
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Brago Hott
Brago Hott Space Solutions
6
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Posted - 2016.02.09 20:04:44 -
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+1 for the new camera
I've got a free extractor with the 3 months sub and I've used it to get rid of some skills I have trained and used long ago. This is really cool, not to mention that I bought another 500K points from the market. I accepted the sometimes long training times as part of EVE, but it's kinda cool to inject Heavy Missile Spec V instead of waiting 18 days for it. So +1 for this too.
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Captain Campion
Synergy. Imperial Republic Of the North
7
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Posted - 2016.02.09 20:17:29 -
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Being able to inject skill books without prerequisites is fantastic, thank you! |
Valleriani
Polarized
18
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Posted - 2016.02.09 20:59:28 -
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When you have the new camera mode on, the tracking/look at should NOT be above the 'jump/warp' commands.
For example if you set autopilot and click on the next destination on the top left (The route), Look at/track should be below jump to. It's bugging me a good deal because the first thing I often click will be 'jump/warp', so it's nice if its all streamlined. |
Valmor DePontdelac
Andorra Paradis Fiscal
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Posted - 2016.02.09 21:29:05 -
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Freelancer117 wrote:As of 2016-02-09 GMT 09:12:39 my skill training time since 2008-12-02 GMT 14:25 has been made Trivial by this P2W feature
My thoughts exactly
Freelancer117 wrote:your Bullshite posting how you listened to the ""community"" (extra " for Sion) where we all love this feature is dumb.
It was decided beforehand and the "community" has just to swallow the snake.
Well, that's the last straw for me. I thougth Eve was diferent but it clearly isn't any more... My account expires on feb. 13th and years of my life have been wasted for nothing. There goes a pile of digital crap that has costed more hours and efforts than I want to remember.
So long everybody.
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JetStream Drenard
Black Fox Marauders
79
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Posted - 2016.02.09 22:06:33 -
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You dont listen.
You make us waste all the time we spent training to fly Triage. You have done it before many times, and people said well that's just Eve. You gave us nothing in return for the money we spent on that time. You ass holes.
You offer to allow us to extract that wasted time and sell it. Good fuckin job. You ask us to pay an equivalent amount to the money wasted to un-waste the time spent training it. You greedy corporate stooges.
You then steal a portion of that additional money when we want to reinject it back into the new skill which replaced the old skill, forcing us to spend even more to get that lost sp. You **** all over those of us with progressively longer time spent training in this game.
I hate you. |
helana Tsero
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
320
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Posted - 2016.02.09 22:18:32 -
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CCP just in-case you have missed the MOUNTAIN of criticism the new camera is getting I will link the thread for you.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=468482&find=unread
There are a number of complaints but the chief one is BRING BACK THE LEGACY TRACKING CAMERA !
There you go.. now you cant say to the executive producer that there were minimal complaints about the new cameras in the February feedback thread..
"... ppl need to get out of caves and they will see something new... thats where is eve placed... not in cave..."-á | zoonr-Korsairs |-á QFT !
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Doppleganger
Federated Holdings Libera Alliance
43
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Posted - 2016.02.09 23:03:08 -
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For those of you that wanted this BS buy skillpoints feature put in, you shouldn't be complaining when they make some of your training obsolete by splitting your existing skills and putting new ones in to make you have to train to do things you were already able to do.
What exactly did you think was going to happen when they added a way to buy skillpoints? Well of course they need to think up ways for you to buy them like making more of your existing skills obsolete... I'm sure this is just the beginning.
Yes they have done this a bit before in the past but I'm sure we will be seeing alot more of this in the future as it opens up a ton more revenue for them.
Oh the new camera sucks ........ it resets itself constantly |
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Sissy Fuzz
Sissy Fuzz Communications
68
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Posted - 2016.02.09 23:28:32 -
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Brago Hott wrote:+1 for the new camera
I've got a free extractor with the 3 months sub and I've used it to get rid of some skills I have trained and used long ago. This is really cool, not to mention that I bought another 500K points from the market. I accepted the sometimes long training times as part of EVE, but it's kinda cool to inject Heavy Missile Spec V instead of waiting 18 days for it. So +1 for this too.
Yeah, because it's all about convenience, right? |
Sissy Fuzz
Sissy Fuzz Communications
68
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Posted - 2016.02.09 23:33:00 -
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Valmor DePontdelac wrote:Freelancer117 wrote:As of 2016-02-09 GMT 09:12:39 my skill training time since 2008-12-02 GMT 14:25 has been made Trivial by this P2W feature My thoughts exactly Freelancer117 wrote:your Bullshite posting how you listened to the ""community"" (extra " for Sion) where we all love this feature is dumb. It was decided beforehand and the "community" has just to swallow the snake. Well, that's the last straw for me. I thougth Eve was diferent but it clearly isn't any more... My account expires on feb. 13th and years of my life have been wasted for nothing. There goes a pile of digital crap that has costed more hours and efforts than I want to remember. So long everybody. Uh, you are not allowed to post those sort of things about quitting and such anymore. CCP don't want the bad vibe in their censored forums - bad vibes fucks with their spin-efforts. So your post will probably be relegated to the Out of Pod section of the forums which nobody reads.
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Jeven HouseBenyo
Fifty Shades of Funkyness LLC
315
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Posted - 2016.02.09 23:47:13 -
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The February Release with it's attendant SP extractors/injectors have not been live for a full 24 hours.
There's at least one toon with a little over 73M in injected SPs to assign as he/she sees fit.
Seventy. Three. Million. Skill. Points.
Since there's no weeks' long cooldown on them. No limit. Nothing that stands in the way of CCP grabbing up bundles of O' Mighty Dollahs (or your local equivalent of Greenbacks)
With a big enough bankroll, yes Eve just became Pay2Win/Progress.
I sukk at math, but my mind boggles how much pure profit CCP got for that shiny trinket that's available in the end from the New Eden Store. Ya know, that place where we were promised not much more than vanity items (SKINs, Clothing, Tattoos, Cyborg limbs, Character Re-sculpt, double or triple SP training on same account).
I'm sure some in the glass tower in Iceland are rubbing grubby hands together. Look at all this munnies we get to throw at a VR game still not in a Beta stage! Yeah. Let me know how betting the farm on VR will keep CCP a viable gaming company.
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Then the new camera behaviour. Very pretteh for video capture. All shiny and new. Very.... VR like. As though the upcoming Valkyrie is going to be linked up with Eve Online and the pew targets expand. After all, linking up Eve and Dust turned out so well.. umm... hold that thought, when does Dust get vacuumed out of existence again? Since it's not, ya know, Making Serious Cash as an Eve add-on.
I get that the Legacy Coding for camera needed some TLC. Some re-writing so it gels with what's running on TQ3. But instead of going for a seamless finish, you went full bore different for change's sake. What? I might not be the bestest with software, but if there's Only One True Way to do something in a program, then why are there so many programs that Do The Same Silly Thing?
That is, unless you Need to chance it so it syncs up with Valkyrie. So those with vision and/or motion issues are removed for not being able to 'evolve' and being sticks in mud.
Dear fellow capsuleers of different ranges of time spent with Eve Online....
We've been sold out and tossed downstream. I know Eve isn't a charity, and CCP is a company. But when the bottom line is the ONLY thing focused on during changes, well greed destroys more than a constructs.
Not quite two years of playing the daily insanity that is Eve. I'll make it official my stance. Gratz, I join the Greek tragedy chorus. Eve's on life support now.
Yay. Bitter Vet cynical.
>Jeven
Minny boat flyer, unofficial squeaky wheel.
'Game Ethics and Morality Monitor' I remember promises.
Snark at 11-24/7/365.25. Overshare? Yup.
Yes it's my fault. And if you don't staap it I'll do it again. ;-P
No you can't has my stuffs OR my SPs.
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Ed Bever
Evolution Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2016.02.10 01:04:50 -
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I wish to supply a little feedback concerning the changes to fatigue, specificly the ones where you mentioned the intention to shorten the maximum fatigue. While i agree 30 days is a little long, i feel like 5 days is too short. I do not know specific numbers (obviously) but i expect there are players who are only able to log on during the weekends. A 5 day timer would not effect those players in any relevant way. I would suggest making the maximum be 7 days at least, to ensure that specificly those players are effected, too. This would ensure fatigue actually has the intended effect, in my oppinion. I realise there may also be players that log on once every two weeks, once every month, or whatever, but i expect those to be too few in number to be a specific concern.
I would like to, additionally, suggest two other changes, firstly a flat reduction of the fatigue buildup (not too much, i would say about 20% maximum). Secondly, and probably more importantly, i would like to suggest making the fatigue decrease not being a linear proces, but one that starts off decreasing fast, with the reduction in fatigue slowing down as it gets further from the point it was at upon landing after the jump. I feel like this last change would make capitals a little bit more viable for a trip of, say, 3 jumps, while still limiting the speed with which they travel, and also significantly limit the ability to undertake the large kind of trips that prompted you to make this change in the first place. I believe that this would give players who have a limited amount of time to play for a single session or a limited ability to choose those specific moments the option to join a fight, and request an exit cyno to GTFO if real life requires that. A significant part of the original player base has a job, a wife, children, or any combination there of, and none of these easily permit the player to prioritize on a game over each of these. |
Eli Stan
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
402
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Posted - 2016.02.10 01:46:43 -
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New camera feedback:
1) Change the tracking feature to work like old camera. Ie, a) toggle to turn on/off, rather than hold 'c', and b) track ships that are in warp.
2) Do not turn off tactical overlay after each undock and each gate jump. Have it remember the last setting.
Thanks!
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Midnight Hope
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
182
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Posted - 2016.02.10 01:59:00 -
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New camera sucks.
Let me be more specific: - zooming speed is too drastic. One touch and you go from full zoom to waaay far out. you zoom in and same thing happens. - can not pan around while pressing the 2 buttons - can not track objects. camera centers on object but when the object moves (or you do, can't tell) the camera does not follow (maybe i'm simply not understanding what the purpose of the track function is... but as teh word implies, I guess it should... you know... TRACK! It doesn't.) - can not center on objects like the old one. I tried this with ships when clicking on the overview and anoms or celestials (planets). Moreover, the button to do it from the HUD is gone. - camera doesn't like looking directly down or up. It twists and moves around a lot, which would be fine for World of Warship...BUT THIS IS FRIGGIN 3D GAME.
Also, it got all screwey when going into the warp tunnel (it happened twice). I was looking at another ship when it did the second time around. It scared the crap out of me, only other time I saw video doing that is when a video card gets fried.
Oh! It also goes into fishbowl mode (thanks for bringing back EVE 2003) every now and then (twice in a couple of hours). I *think* is after jumping systems. To get it to reset I just click the orbit camera, again, very anoying.
Overall, a lot of funtionality was changed or removed for no apparent reason or improvement.
Disabling this thing until fixed or I'm forced to use it.
In the end, Hilmar's code wasn't so bad after all. |
Kontract Killa
256th Shadow Wing Phantom-Recon
9
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Posted - 2016.02.10 02:36:28 -
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I don't like that the new camera requires using a keybind to track things. Auto-track is a great feature in the old camera controls. I hope it gets put into the new camera mode. |
Ed Bever
Evolution Northern Coalition.
17
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Posted - 2016.02.10 03:10:40 -
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Midnight Hope wrote:New camera sucks.
Let me be more specific: - zooming speed is too drastic. One touch and you go from full zoom to waaay far out. you zoom in and same thing happens. - can not pan around while pressing the 2 buttons - can not track objects. camera centers on object but when the object moves (or you do, can't tell) the camera does not follow (maybe i'm simply not understanding what the purpose of the track function is... but as teh word implies, I guess it should... you know... TRACK! It doesn't.) - can not center on objects like the old one. I tried this with ships when clicking on the overview and anoms or celestials (planets). Moreover, the button to do it from the HUD is gone. - camera doesn't like looking directly down or up. It twists and moves around a lot, which would be fine for World of Warship...BUT THIS IS FRIGGIN 3D GAME.
Also, it got all screwey when going into the warp tunnel (it happened twice). I was looking at another ship when it did the second time around. It scared the crap out of me, only other time I saw video doing that is when a video card gets fried.
Oh! It also goes into fishbowl mode (thanks for bringing back EVE 2003) every now and then (twice in a couple of hours). I *think* is after jumping systems. To get it to reset I just click the orbit camera, again, very anoying.
Overall, a lot of funtionality was changed or removed for no apparent reason or improvement.
Disabling this thing until fixed or I'm forced to use it.
In the end, Hilmar's code wasn't so bad after all.
I do agree, i noticed this, too, and it annoys me. I fly logi in Sansha Incursions QUITE a lot, and the top-down view gives me a nice, clean view of what is going on in terms of positioning, where lasers are going and even things like invuls being activated. If only the damned thing stopped shaking so much and so randomly. |
Dominic Maricadie
Flame Out
0
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Posted - 2016.02.10 04:43:19 -
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I don't mind the new camera so much but I miss the camera tracking toggle / center / custom settings enough that I've turned the new camera off to get some peace of mind back.
The loss of the old camera's tracking has tactical / gameplay effects. |
Roman Sawur
Aridia Research and Exploring
0
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Posted - 2016.02.10 05:14:08 -
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Return Region's descriptions, please |
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Iria Ahrens
Space Perverts and Forum Pirates
701
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Posted - 2016.02.10 06:01:19 -
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OMG the flashy screen of epilepsy. In station and warping when looking away from the sun. Screen flashes once a second or so.
I thought it was an occlusion bug so was trying to turn off sun occlusion, couldn't find the setting, but when I turned off dynamic field of view, the screen stopped flashing.
My choice of pronouns is based on your avatar. Even if I know what is behind the avatar.
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Awkward Pi Duolus
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
160
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Posted - 2016.02.10 06:05:20 -
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Dear CCP.. what have you done with the camera.. I'm getting seasick... |
Liz Aun
ASH TO DUST
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Posted - 2016.02.10 09:39:09 -
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Please make the tracking camera and the "c" key work as they did with the old camera.
The new camera seems nice enough, but the tracking camera is used so much for scanning and decloaking etc that I turned the new cameras off almost instantly |
Rivr Luzade
Kenshin. DARKNESS.
2303
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Posted - 2016.02.10 10:45:58 -
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Just curious: Why is there no queue to add skills/skill levels into from which you want to extract SP? Why do you have to click approve every single skill level and then at the end approve the final extraction? This is just as bad a click mania as it is with PI and you would have thought you had learned from that.
UI Improvement Collective
My ridicule, heavy criticism and general pale outlook about your or CCP's ideas is nothing but an encouragement to prove me wrong. Give it a try.
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File Loading
Caldari Inequality Control
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Posted - 2016.02.10 11:03:47 -
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Any particular reason u have made the Skiff and Tengu uber ugly ? Ahhh i see what u did there, then later in the future u will make a skin for tengu and skiff - here special offer Retro tengu and skiff skin !?
Really ! So fail.. |
Ramagar
Black Scorpions Inc The Bastion
0
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Posted - 2016.02.10 11:22:21 -
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CCP is returning to its horrid patch experiences from the past.
Yet once again, will not patch from, the new launcher, had to start the old launcher to get it to patch.
Pay to skill is in and CCP has had a massive influx of revenue, USE SOME OF IT TO SORT YOUR **** OUT BEFORE YOU LAUNCH AN UPGRADE YOU DIPSHITS.
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Charlinda Akheteru
Akheteru Integrated Astrometrics Hedonistic Imperative
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Posted - 2016.02.10 11:33:45 -
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Ramagar wrote:had to start the old launcher to get it to patch.
how do i shot old launcher?
AIA Pharmaceuticals: What's your drug of choice?Gäó
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Ben Zaye
Harakiri Cleaning services
18
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Posted - 2016.02.10 12:48:10 -
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Since patch 2016-02-10 Some effect of the new camera gives seasick. When making a Zoom out and display covers a large area (eg. 20 km), the display begins to swing gently and long was small retching. Remove this effect. I remind you that we are in space and not on the sea with a boat. |
Josef Djugashvilis
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Posted - 2016.02.10 13:34:22 -
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Perhaps with regard to cash for skills, CCP may not be quite as daft as I had presumed.
In the short term it will generate some money for CCP, then as the short lived market will surely and effectively die, CCP will announce that they have (finally listened to the overwhelmingly negative feedback) and do away with this fundamentally flawed cash grab mechanic.
Short term cash grab, and listening to their paying subscriber base, a win-win for them.
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ISD Fractal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
972
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Posted - 2016.02.10 13:54:47 -
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ISD Fractal
Lieutenant
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Interstellar Services Department
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