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Freyjia Aryana
ASATRU
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Posted - 2016.02.09 11:53:11 -
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Exposure of PIRAT's recent degeneration into a quasi-scam service:
PIRAT ever since losing its core mercenary group Big Johnsons's has become a scam service.
The overwhelming majority of its wars include 0 kills. Starting at a base cost of accepting 150million from your wallet.
During a recent War Declaration. I saw a war target of theirs in local, afk sitting at a gate for over 40 minutes in an Omen Navy Issue.
As a long time PIRAT customer, having hired over multiple PIRAT wars in the past. I messaged PIRAT via their public channel and to Achilles SR, their lead-scam sales representative directly. They refused to respond, I even offered to compensate them for their losses if they somehow managed to lose anything to this Omen Navy Issue, as it appeared that is what they were afraid of. Their mobs at various gates are large enough to be able to easily dispatch one or two ships to kill an AFK Navy faction cruiser.
I then posted a screenshot of the person literally sitting there AFK over 40 plus minutes, presumably longer, as they were not still not moving after I had flown to and from that system 4 times...
PIRAT not only refused to attack this one person to honour the payment they recieved to do exactly that. They then Declared War on my corporation for pointing out their incompetance. So I am pointing our PIRAT's incompetence to the EVE community. They are an ISK scam, nothing more. PVPers who have set up a system whereby they can get paid for what everyone else does for free in Low, Null and WH space.
I would urge veryone to boycott PIRAT and that every rival Mercenary outfit declare war on them to purge them from the Mercenary market once and for all, (just like Marmite are doing) as they are bording on a scam since losing their core Mercenary groups, PIRAT are now overwhelmingly residing as a parasitic entity profiting from the vendettas of the EVE community, whilst overwhelmingly failing to attack war targets, for example my experience of having flown past a war target that was AFK , 1 jump from Hek, 4 times, over 40 minutes. PIRAT is also incompetant at camping-Amarr and Jita. A role many people hire them with the expecation that they will perform as market prevention.
Statistically it is undeniable that the vast majority, if not 80% of their wars result in 0 kills.
I look forward to becoming a permanent PIRAT war target. And hope that all Mercenary groups will join this boycott in securing what is in their interests, just as Marmite is doing: The complete purging of this degenerated ISK scam service, known as PIRAT from EVE once and for all.
This is what the Crime and Punishment thread should truly be about. For PIRAT, a once useful service, now turned lowly ISK scam in the vast majority of its wars is a crime, that is acting as a parasite upon the EVE community, and their punishment should be annihilation. |
Benson en Efnyssen
Aliastra Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2016.02.09 12:03:13 -
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Didn't feel like hiring Big Johnson's instead then? |
Freyjia Aryana
ASATRU
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Posted - 2016.02.09 12:06:13 -
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I presume they are not still in the Business. But please dont try to detract from the meaning of the post. PIRAT needs to be purged.
I expect PIRAT types will do all they can in terms of PR deflection on these forums, to attempt to prevent this boycott before it gets started. Because they have to, or they will be destroyed. |
Benson en Efnyssen
Aliastra Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2016.02.09 12:25:05 -
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With topics like this I'm sure you're agena will go places.
I mean look at all the CODE. posts. |
Freyjia Aryana
ASATRU
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Posted - 2016.02.09 12:34:39 -
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Benson en Efnyssen wrote:look at all the CODE. posts.
I fully support the CODE mission, have done for years, over multiple accounts. I was also an enforcer for CODE for several months. They have principles, PIRAT do not. |
Tora Bushido
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective
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Posted - 2016.02.09 13:15:03 -
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Freyjia Aryana wrote:Benson en Efnyssen wrote:look at all the CODE. posts. I fully support the CODE mission, have done for years, over multiple accounts. I was also an enforcer for CODE for several months. They have principles, PIRAT do not. Well, code used to have, but that ended when Loyal took over.....
DELETE THE WEAK, ADAPT OR DIE !
Meta Gaming Level VII, Psycho Warfare Level X, Smack Talk Level VII.
TORA BUSHIDO FOR CSM XI
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Avi Shekelstien
New Order Logistics CODE.
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Posted - 2016.02.09 22:21:09 -
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Tora Bushido wrote:Freyjia Aryana wrote:Benson en Efnyssen wrote:look at all the CODE. posts. I fully support the CODE mission, have done for years, over multiple accounts. I was also an enforcer for CODE for several months. They have principles, PIRAT do not. Well, code used to have, but that ended when Loyal took over..... So how did that duel between the two of you pan out? |
Jerry T Pepridge
Meta Game Analysis and Investment INC.
699
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Posted - 2016.02.09 23:26:43 -
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Whos pirat?
@JerryTPepridge
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Tora Bushido
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective
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Posted - 2016.02.10 08:05:02 -
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Avi Shekelstien wrote:So how did that duel between the two of you pan out? Loyal didnt show up, something something Tora to evil. You know the basic crying he normally does.
DELETE THE WEAK, ADAPT OR DIE !
Meta Gaming Level VII, Psycho Warfare Level X, Smack Talk Level VII.
TORA BUSHIDO FOR CSM XI
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Dom Arkaral
Gate Is Red
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Posted - 2016.02.10 16:15:37 -
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Tora Bushido wrote:Avi Shekelstien wrote:So how did that duel between the two of you pan out? Loyal didnt show up, something something Tora to evil. You know the basic crying he normally does. Lol am I the one that's supposed to say that you blocked him for proposing a duel.. Where you had to pay loyalanon a fitted catalyst if he won, and you'd receive 10b if YOU won
No offense, but you're dumb to have passed the duel You had nothing to lose, but now...
Merc. Tear Gatherer. Quebecker
I have no Honer (truly)
Attache ta tuque avec d'la broche!
Ich bin krank! (I don't speak German don't bother)
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ZmajOgnjeniVuk
Naliao Inc. Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2016.02.10 18:34:08 -
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Nothing wrong with scamming. Just a guy trying to make an honest living. |
Tora Bushido
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective
3195
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Posted - 2016.02.10 18:37:54 -
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Dom Arkaral wrote:No offense, but you're dumb to have passed the duel. You had nothing to lose, but now... I'll let him know when he enters my priority list.
DELETE THE WEAK, ADAPT OR DIE !
Meta Gaming Level VII, Psycho Warfare Level X, Smack Talk Level VII.
TORA BUSHIDO FOR CSM XI
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Freyjia Aryana
ASATRU
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Posted - 2016.02.14 00:36:04 -
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BOYCOTT PIRAT!
This scam service must be purged from EVE once and for all, along with all those who through their lowly hedonism and morphed egoism have eroded and will continue to erode all the virtuous and worthwhile communities and ideals within EVE.
Boycott the PIRAT parasites that perpetuate, polute and exploit the conflicts of EVE to enact a lowly defilement for their own egoistic self-amusement at the expense of thousands of other players with each and every hour that passes. |
Loreth
Addicted To Chaos Archetype.
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Posted - 2016.02.14 05:12:53 -
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Hire Archetype, we have a big weenis. |
Slate 183
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2016.02.14 11:49:23 -
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Loreth wrote:Hire Archetype, we have a big weenis.
Archetype, are the PIRAT of dodixie, both "MERC" alliances prefer to play suspect games on the trade hub > going after targets, they were payed to hit.
BOYCOTT PIRAT and Archetype!!! |
Freyjia Aryana
ASATRU
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Posted - 2016.02.14 14:48:20 -
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Slate 183 wrote:
BOYCOTT PIRAT and Archetype!!!
Indeed. BOYCOTT them both. It is suspicious that Archetype declared War ON one of my other (less than one day old) corporations after the above post. Maybe there is a deeper connection/collusion between these different, supposedly independent PIRAT groups, to attempt to assert a hegemony over the mercenary scene?
BOYCOTT ALL PIRAT-STYLE SCAM MERCENARIES. |
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
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Posted - 2016.02.14 15:39:06 -
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Freyjia Aryana wrote:[ BOYCOTT ALL PIRAT-STYLE SCAM MERCENARIES.
PIRAT ALL BOYCOTT-STYLE MERCENARY SCAMS
Got a HoleySheet1 corpse? I'll buy it for 200m!
Bumble's Space Log
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Jerry T Pepridge
Meta Game Analysis and Investment INC.
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Posted - 2016.02.15 03:47:36 -
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whos boycott?
@JerryTPepridge
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Kaely Tanniss
Addicted To Chaos Archetype.
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Posted - 2016.02.15 05:09:47 -
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Freyjia Aryana wrote:Slate 183 wrote:
BOYCOTT PIRAT and Archetype!!!
Indeed. BOYCOTT them both. It is suspicious that Archetype declared War on one of my other (less than one day old) corporations after the above post. Maybe there is a deeper connection/collusion between these different, supposedly independent PIRAT groups, to attempt to assert a hegemony over the mercenary scene? BOYCOTT ALL PIRAT-STYLE SCAM MERCENARIES.
OP, I'm not sure you undertand what merc work is about or what it's like. Most of the time wts just hide or never log on. Sure, the situation you explained with a lone wt sitting afk on a gate is inexcusable. Even a single decent merc pilot could handle that. However, there are issues of bait. Typically a wt is not going to sit on a gate with active wts in system unless he's up to something. Not saying he was definitely baiting...but any merc with a brain in their head would question it...especially when someone is offering "intel" about a target they insist they "go get now".
There are many who don't particularly care for PIRAT, myself included. But I'm not sure you're going to get the reaction you're looking for by posting borderline tear threads here. Join a merc corp and take it to PIRAT yourself..or jump onto a PIRAT war as an assist against them. You may get better results. After all, if you want something done your way, do it yourself.
Also, I can assure you one thing, Archetype is NOT a part of, alts of, or afiliated in any way with PIRAT. Most merc corps/alliances either don't like them either..or just don't plain care about them enough for them to matter either way. Good luck trying to get someone to fight your battle for you. I'm sure if your pockets are deep enough, you may find someone who cares enough to bother. I wish you luck in this endeavor. Personally, I agree with you on one level..but as a merc, your approach is completely wrong.
If I had a nickel for every time someone said women don't play eve, I'd have a bag of nickels to whack the next person who said it..
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Mike Adoulin
Adolescent Radioactive Pirate Hamsters
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Posted - 2016.02.15 14:23:31 -
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Sad to hear PIRAT has gone down the tubes.
They used to be hella evil, as befits Mad Drunken Russians.
I am the sads.
Everything in EVE is a trap.
And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:)
You want to know what immorality in EVE Online looks like? Look no further than Ripard "Jester" Teg.
Chribba is the Chuck Norris of EVE.
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Bizare buyer
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2016.02.16 11:21:15 -
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I think your main mistake is assuming PIRAT would engage anything that can fight back |
Noragen Neirfallas
Rabble Inc. A Few Brave Men
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Posted - 2016.02.16 14:46:26 -
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I can confirm from experience PIRAT at least once brought fights that no other outfit would take. I can't confirm the size of their balls now but tell you what watch this spot and I'll let you know
Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment
Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode favourite ISD
'"****station games" - Sun Tzu' - Ralph King-Griffin
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Xorphix
Sinister Intent
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Posted - 2016.02.16 15:40:10 -
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PIRAT do what they want. They always have. |
Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
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Posted - 2016.02.16 16:16:10 -
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Bumblefck wrote:Jerry T Pepridge wrote:whos boycott? BOYCOTT *pinches nose*
Boycott
Better the Devil you know.
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Crystalline Entity
Outdated Host Productions Darwinism.
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Posted - 2016.02.17 11:30:18 -
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It's pretty well known that highsec wardeccers all kinda follow the same MO:
1. They don't wardec each other (generally) 2. They sit in trade hubs or very very active pipe systems and camp there 3. Wardec people because they are bored and if you message them they claim "an anonymous person paid us to wardec you"
The rest of EVE responds by:
1. Using neutral logistics 2. Avoiding trade hubs with decced characters 3. There is always one twerp who goes to a trade hub in something shiney and dies 4. That twerp is ridiculed by his corp/alliance mates 5. The war passes by pretty uneventfully
Disclaimer: In my time in EVE I have been decced only once by a competent wardeccing group which smashed our POS in lowsec and roamed around generally being rather good. Never seen the large "merc" groups outside of trade hubs or pipe systems.
I am sure there are many small gang/roaming/competent non-trade hub campers out there but I have yet to have the pleasure of being decced by any of them (aside from the group alluded to above).
Don't read "salt" into this, just how EVE is.. |
Dom Arkaral
Gate Is Red Complaints Department
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Posted - 2016.02.17 12:56:38 -
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Crystalline Entity wrote:It's pretty well known that highsec wardeccers all kinda follow the same MO: 1. They don't wardec each other (generally) 2. They sit in trade hubs or very very active pipe systems and camp there 3. Wardec people because they are bored and if you message them they claim "an anonymous person paid us to wardec you" The rest of EVE responds by: 1. Using neutral logistics 2. Avoiding trade hubs with decced characters 3. There is always one twerp who goes to a trade hub in something shiney and dies 4. That twerp is ridiculed by his corp/alliance mates 5. The war passes by pretty uneventfully Disclaimer: In my time in EVE I have been decced only once by a competent wardeccing group which smashed our POS in lowsec and roamed around generally being rather good. Never seen the large "merc" groups outside of trade hubs or pipe systems. I am sure there are many small gang/roaming/competent non-trade hub campers out there but I have yet to have the pleasure of being decced by any of them (aside from the group alluded to above). Don't read "salt" into this, just how EVE is.. I hate camping, the hunting part is always more rewarding :)
Merc. Tear Gatherer. Quebecker
I have no Honer (truly)
Attache ta tuque avec d'la broche!
Ich bin krank! (I don't speak German don't bother)
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Ro Fenrios
Armilies Corporation A Few Brave Men
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Posted - 2016.02.17 13:10:43 -
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( J-_-)J PIRAT.. Y U Dec us... For 17th time??? |
Mobadder Thworst
Wiking Brigade
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Posted - 2016.02.21 05:35:16 -
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Crystalline Entity wrote:It's pretty well known that highsec wardeccers all kinda follow the same MO: 1. They don't wardec each other (generally) 2. They sit in trade hubs or very very active pipe systems and camp there 3. Wardec people because they are bored and if you message them they claim "an anonymous person paid us to wardec you" The rest of EVE responds by: 1. Using neutral logistics 2. Avoiding trade hubs with decced characters 3. There is always one twerp who goes to a trade hub in something shiney and dies 4. That twerp is ridiculed by his corp/alliance mates 5. The war passes by pretty uneventfully Disclaimer: In my time in EVE I have been decced only once by a competent wardeccing group which smashed our POS in lowsec and roamed around generally being rather good. Never seen the large "merc" groups outside of trade hubs or pipe systems. I am sure there are many small gang/roaming/competent non-trade hub campers out there but I have yet to have the pleasure of being decced by any of them (aside from the group alluded to above). Don't read "salt" into this, just how EVE is..
Inexperience is a powerful teacher? Seems to have worked for you.
I would love to know what you call good regarding pvp? I agree most of Eve's pvp community is really just flying a common build, clicking "orbit at 500", and turning all the modules on.
The elite like to then click "overheat."
However, there is a small slice of the community who understands game mechanics, maneuver, and basic strategy. Those are the ones who are good, IMO. In my experience, most played in high a few years ago. The low sec community may have equal per-capita representation in this group, but there just aren't (or weren't, I honestly haven't played much since they killed flipping) that many down there. Perhaps there are more now.
I have never met a truly competent pvp'er from null, though I've heard they exist. There just isn't much framework to learn damage and maneuver mechanics down there... But there is plenty of isk.
This elitist idea that high-sec pvp is unskilled is silly. Most of these corps are fighting each other as well as dozens or hundreds of other corps.
If they were unskilled, low and null pilots would be up here schooling them.
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Mike Adoulin
Adolescent Radioactive Pirate Hamsters
1659
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Posted - 2016.02.21 12:32:43 -
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Compared to null and low, fighting in hisec Is like fighting a MMA match with your hands tied behind your back, with the lights off, wearing earmuffs.
Which is why I love watching 'elite null combat pilots' flounder around when they have to fight in hi.
Everything in EVE is a trap.
And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:)
You want to know what immorality in EVE Online looks like? Look no further than Ripard "Jester" Teg.
Chribba is the Chuck Norris of EVE.
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Derpster McDerp
MODERN POLISH COSSACK The Marmite Collective
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Posted - 2016.02.22 05:27:19 -
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Freyjia Aryana wrote:Exposure of PIRAT's recent degeneration into a quasi-scam service: huge post hi friend, how are you on this lovely evening?
the problem is lets say in the case of this omen, perhaps there was a large fleet of wts nearby ready to pew pew when this omen gets aggro. they're mercs, but they aren't stupid. theres no point running into a fixed bayonet if you can avoid it, so to speak, and you have no clue if there was an enemy fleet nearby ready to pounce. theres no point in risking everything just for a simple omen kill, it's just not worth it.
now, regarding to this scam thing. if one lass starts screaming at the top of her lungs that "p i r a t is scam pls halp " theres a good chance no one will believe her. why? because if you look in their recent wars, they've been doing a good job. and the fact they didn't kill one omen doesn't mean that they're going down the drain and resorting to scamming. theres always a reason for something happening like that, its not worth it to tarnish your reputation for one scam, wouldn't you say?
now friend, on to another thing, i'm sure if they were unable to get ANY kills in the time you paid for it they probably would extend it out for you. or perhaps they would give you some money back, you paid for a service and they didn't get to kill anyone. you have to remember they are offering to WAR DEC, not to kill everyone in the corp. this means they don't really need to give you ur money back, u got what u paid for, a wardec. but you had to put on the tinfoil cap and look where its went....to the trash.
also proof....where is it at? you've got baseless claims bud.
tl;dr nah
so im sorry for the situation at hand, but perhaps you've just overreacted? i wouldn't be surprised
take care, fly safe. |
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