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RolandF
Guards Assault Corps Infinity Space.
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Posted - 2016.02.09 15:16:45 -
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Try a new camera? It looks like I'm in X3 Terran conflict / Reunion with zooming glasses. Really, strange zooming camera.
When I came today to the game, I wanted to close this game and leave again, I'm very emotional. CCP, I think it is wrong idea with this camera.
At least, let live the old Good camera, let it stay in the game.
I do NOT want use zooming glasses. Thank, but no. |
Pix Severus
Empty You
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Posted - 2016.02.09 15:20:36 -
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General settings > untick "Try the New Camera" (thanks, Crosi Wesdo).
I don't like having blinkers put on.
My lord.
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Valthax Kelkore
Damen LLC
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Posted - 2016.02.09 16:25:22 -
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Thanks for the info about how to disable it, Pix.
CCP, trying new things is good but please keep the original features in the new system. I might be in the minority here, but I rely on the tracking camera feature heavily and would be quite irritated if it were permanently removed from the game.
Scanning was a good change, the map changes are mediocre, but I wish I could bin the new camera system completely.
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Nalia White
Tencus
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Posted - 2016.02.09 17:26:23 -
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thanks to whoever we can disable this...
a acceleration / decceleration for camera zooming? who would want that seriously i am baffled... |
Terrorfrodo
Renegade Hobbits for Mordor
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Posted - 2016.02.09 17:39:48 -
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Old camera will be removed completely in one month so better get used to the new one.
And read the dev blog which explains how change-averse people can make the new camera behave almost identically to the old one.
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Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
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Posted - 2016.02.09 17:45:47 -
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I'm conflicted , I want to troll the patch day moan thread (like really badly) but I also want to **** and moan till they un-**** the tracking camera.
Halp , wat do !?
Better the Devil you know.
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Pix Severus
Empty You
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Posted - 2016.02.09 17:48:25 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:I'm conflicted , I want to troll the patch day moan thread (like really badly) but I also want to **** and moan till they un-**** the tracking camera.
Halp , wat do !?
Follow your heart!
My lord.
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Daemun Khanid
Apollo Defence Industries
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Posted - 2016.02.09 17:58:55 -
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Terrorfrodo wrote:Old camera will be removed completely in one month so better get used to the new one.
And read the dev blog which explains how change-averse people can make the new camera behave almost identically to the old one.
They remove old camera and there will be riots. New camera is s*** and have been saying so for months. Broken useless s****.
Daemun of Khanid
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Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
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Posted - 2016.02.09 18:36:36 -
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That's quite the sperg there daem, tbh I've liked and adapted to every Ui update thus far.
This is the first one I have to just Nope out of, how the hell am I ment to track anything if the camera can't track the damn thing as it leaves grid ffs, I can live with the c-click but the "warping" immunity to the camera kills it for me.
Better the Devil you know.
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Inuro Enderas
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2016.02.09 18:49:19 -
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Came to the forum for the first time... Because the new camera gave me a goddamn headache!
What the hell is wrong with the old one?! |
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Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
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Posted - 2016.02.09 18:50:53 -
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feedback goes here
Better the Devil you know.
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Daemun Khanid
Apollo Defence Industries
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Posted - 2016.02.09 18:54:01 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:That's quite the sperg there daem, tbh I've liked and adapted to every Ui update thus far.
This is the first one I have to just Nope out of, how the hell am I ment to track anything if the camera can't track the damn thing as it leaves grid ffs, I can live with the c-click but the "warping" immunity to the camera kills it for me.
Sorry :) I've just been annoyed with this camera and the way they are pushing and pushing it with so little regard to feed back. Today's patch pushing the new camera to default combined with all the other recent "improvements" was just enough to make the bucket overflow. In all honestly I've also adjusted to most of the other things without much issue but the point is that it shows a trend of pushing things that (even if ppl can eventually adjust to them) are just unnecessary or unwanted. It all reeks of trying to either justify a job or someone (in the decision making process) who is just determined to do what THEY want regardless of whether or not its actually a good decision or investment of time and resources.
Daemun of Khanid
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Daemun Khanid
Apollo Defence Industries
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Posted - 2016.02.09 18:55:14 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Carefull, last time I tried to post in GD telling people to go check out new features and use the feedback thread it was locked. Reason... because they are supposed to use the feedback thread...
Daemun of Khanid
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Daemun Khanid
Apollo Defence Industries
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Posted - 2016.02.09 18:56:16 -
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Inuro Enderas wrote:Came to the forum for the first time... Because the new camera gave me a goddamn headache!
What the hell is wrong with the old one?!
A b s o l u t e l y n o t h i n g . . .
Daemun of Khanid
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GinBar
BALKAN EXPRESS Shadow Cartel
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Posted - 2016.02.09 22:23:50 -
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leave new camera, turn off all advanced camera features and push camera speed to max ( move slider to right). Like this, new camera is way better then old one. |
Daemun Khanid
Apollo Defence Industries
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Posted - 2016.02.09 22:36:16 -
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GinBar wrote:leave new camera, turn off all advanced camera features and push camera speed to max ( move slider to right). Like this, new camera is way better then old one.
New camera is in no way better than old one. No setting changes that. It drifts too much, it shifts too much, fov changes are bad, addition of new keypresses required to do the same things as before are bad, first person is useless fluff and zoom response is terrible.
Turn off all the "features", get rid of the response curves, take away the extra clicks and what you have is the old camera. Whats the purpose of this change again?
Daemun of Khanid
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Robert Caldera
Caldera Trading and Investment
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Posted - 2016.02.09 22:53:03 -
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Capacitor display screws itself, our clients crash upon entering wormholes for what, a year now? yet we get a new camera which also crashes the client itself. friggin devs know how to set priorities. |
Daemun Khanid
Apollo Defence Industries
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Posted - 2016.02.09 23:46:15 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:That's quite the sperg there daem, tbh I've liked and adapted to every Ui update thus far.
This is the first one I have to just Nope out of, how the hell am I ment to track anything if the camera can't track the damn thing as it leaves grid ffs, I can live with the c-click but the "warping" immunity to the camera kills it for me.
Just saw what you were talking about "Tracking a warping entity is no longer permitted by the camera" This is supposed to be an improvement? So now not only is it more cumbersome to track an object on the overview in order to maintain situational awareness or to utilize d-scan, but now the tracking camera breaks lock as soon as someone tries to enter warp so that it's nearly impossible to see where they're going. Should make trying to catch cowards and farmers tons of fun. Am I correct in assuming that not only do the UI team want to see how many ppl they can **** off and how much they can break but they want to make running away easier for carebears as well? This just keeps getting better. There are more things in this new camera that make ppl want to avoid it at all costs then there are ANY kind of actual improvements. Tell me again why the new camera is opt out instead of opt in? Or for that matter why it exists in the first place?
Daemun of Khanid
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Essensia
SUNDERING Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2016.02.10 00:00:36 -
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I don't usually post on the forums, but this new camera is really irritating for me.
Granted I haven't played with the new camera for long, but from what I've tried, I find myself getting slightly nauseous. There's just something with the mouse sensitivity with the new camera that bugs me.
Ok, so I'm open to new ideas and maybe given some time I might try it out again...
WHAT REALLY GETS ME.... why the heck would you disable the option of turning the new camera off after 1 month? |
Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
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Posted - 2016.02.10 00:13:56 -
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Quote:CCP's UI devs and who ever approves their work are more out of touch with the player base than the US government is with US citizens.
The UI changes have been asked for by many many people over many years. Because they didnt do what one group of people wanted doesn't mean they didn't listen. They just didn't listen to you, which is why you're pissed.
internet spaceships
are serious business sir.
and don't forget it
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Daemun Khanid
Apollo Defence Industries
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Posted - 2016.02.10 00:17:30 -
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Cipher Jones wrote:Quote:CCP's UI devs and who ever approves their work are more out of touch with the player base than the US government is with US citizens. The UI changes have been asked for by many many people over many years. Because they didnt do what one group of people wanted doesn't mean they didn't listen. They just didn't listen to you, which is why you're pissed.
Show me one example of ppl asking for extra key presses to track objects on overview. How about an example of someone wanting tracking camera to NOT follow objects as they enter warp? How about someone ASKING for the camera to bob around more and generally just behave more sluggishly? The ONLY thing in this new camera I've ever seen asked for, was the first person camera which its self is just a joke. Do ppl want UI improvements? Absolutely. Is this new camera an improvement? Nope.
If you start looking at things ppl have actually asked for I'll tell you what you'll find... nothing that's actually been added. But hey, they also made some improvements to ships that appear in the captains quarters. That's nice huh?
Daemun of Khanid
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Chopper Rollins
Lantean Empire
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Posted - 2016.02.10 00:21:29 -
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I hunt using the d-scan. I can quickly find things or have a quick look at the environment near or far, focused or general. Having to click things to make the camera track them kills this. It's like it was made by some clever-clogs who doesn't play eve. It's not a matter of adapting, the useful feature is broken. Gonna go read that dev blog and see if i can make tracking camera work like the old system. If not, you broke a good thing guys, a good thing.
Goggles. Making me look good. Making you look good.
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AshenShugar01
Convicts and Savages Shadow Cartel
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Posted - 2016.02.10 03:10:11 -
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Two words for anyone who plays EVE with a PVP mindset.... TRACKING CAMERA.
No no no no no, CCP please..... ffs, why replace a functioning feature that gets a huge amount of use with something that functions less well and not when you're in warp. Why??? Why replace one click with several?? Why slow stuff down???? If finding targets isn't already hard enough in this game now you slow down a key function that makes finding targets easier... I'm speechless.
I'll keep the new camera off till the day you take that option from me. And then we'll see... |
Major Triscuits
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
37
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Posted - 2016.02.10 03:18:26 -
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Daemun Khanid wrote:New camera is s*** and have been saying so for months. Broken useless s****.
Works fine for me. |
Daemun Khanid
Apollo Defence Industries
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Posted - 2016.02.10 03:37:21 -
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Major Triscuits wrote:Daemun Khanid wrote:New camera is s*** and have been saying so for months. Broken useless s****. Works fine for me. I assume you pve alot, because for pvp its 10 steps in the wrong direction.
Daemun of Khanid
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Iria Ahrens
Space Perverts and Forum Pirates
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Posted - 2016.02.10 04:44:06 -
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I like the ability to easily switch back and forth. I do not like how switching disables my tactical overlay.
My choice of pronouns is based on your avatar. Even if I know what is behind the avatar.
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Major Triscuits
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2016.02.10 04:58:07 -
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Daemun Khanid wrote:Major Triscuits wrote:Daemun Khanid wrote:New camera is s*** and have been saying so for months. Broken useless s****. Works fine for me. I assume you pve alot, because for pvp its 10 steps in the wrong direction.
If you say so. |
Daemun Khanid
Apollo Defence Industries
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Posted - 2016.02.10 05:38:12 -
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Major Triscuits wrote:Daemun Khanid wrote:Major Triscuits wrote:Daemun Khanid wrote:New camera is s*** and have been saying so for months. Broken useless s****. Works fine for me. I assume you pve alot, because for pvp its 10 steps in the wrong direction. If you say so.
Instead of just saying "no it's not" I'd love to hear an honest opinion on how adding key presses to camera tracking and not allowing the tracking camera to follow targets that enter warp is not bad for pvp.
Daemun of Khanid
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Owen Levanth
Sagittarius Unlimited Exploration
443
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Posted - 2016.02.10 15:25:58 -
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RolandF wrote:Try a new camera? It looks like I'm in X3 Terran conflict / Reunion with zooming glasses. Really, strange zooming camera. When I came today to the game, I wanted to close this game and leave again, I'm very emotional. CCP, I think it is wrong idea with this camera. At least, let live the old Good camera, let it stay in the game. I do NOT want use zooming glasses. Thank, but no.
I tried the new first person camera yesterday. Was surprisingly fun with my fast frigate. And it took CCP only 12+ years to implement this! |
Daemun Khanid
Apollo Defence Industries
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Posted - 2016.02.10 17:36:27 -
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Just want to remind every one to PLEASE read the official feedback thread. Take note of some of the concerns that have been expressed and voice your opinions. If players don't speak up we can say good bye to the old camera and we'll all be stuck with this new "feature" whether we like it not.
Daemun of Khanid
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