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Ria Nieyli 40561	Posted - 2016.02.10 16:20:42 - [31] - Quote Well, farming injectors with the plex/injector prices right now is about a 7.8% profit per character per month. If you're using a character that you already stripped on patch day, you've effectively recouped your overhead cost on it, so it's smooth sailing from thereon out.
Captain IQ Innocent Traders Ltd 78	Posted - 2016.02.10 16:39:47 - [32] - Quote I'd also not forget to factor in the long term health of the game and also the ppl who may have unsubbed or are planning to as a result, the latter might not be no biggie but the former, well...
Dr Mibbles State War Academy Caldari State 4	Posted - 2016.02.10 16:52:29 - [33] - Quote Teckos Pech wrote: As for skill extractors they have already seemed to have settled near the price you estimated in that other thread I noted. I don't think we'll see much action there. We might see some in the injector market though. Sorry for the long rambling post. Not at all, was a great read, many thanks!
Ruvin Out of Sight. 201	Posted - 2016.02.10 18:45:37 - [34] - Quote Those farms dont need to be made, they exist already. For example two of my alts are perfect trader another is a perfect tengu pilot . They both had plans for a year and best implants for focused training. They reached their target, i probably should stop paying but i feel its wasted time not training so they train even now (useless stuff for me atm) both of them can be used for skill extraction. Many have 7-10 such accounts that train just in case. Opportunities multiply as they are seized.
Dr Mibbles State War Academy Caldari State 5	Posted - 2016.02.11 12:44:49 - [35] - Quote Speaking of this market being driven by irrational behaviour. This character has increased his SP by 100m over the last few days: http://eveboard.com/pilot/Stromgren That's 433bn ISK. Incredible. And there's going to be many more where he came from.
Sequester Risalo Semiki Minerals and Missiles Company Ltd. 182	Posted - 2016.02.11 13:08:47 - [36] - Quote Dr Mibbles wrote: Something that seems to be being missed is that active, logged in players will want skills. Those who don't want them tend to either be market speculators or those who simply don't play. The demand is driven by active players, not forum warriors, or inactive characters with loads of SP that literally will not even log in because they are unsubbed and lost interest in the game. You're underestimating I believe the demand from those who are impatient. Time will show us who is right on this. I would also presume that there is only one initial spike and then an ongoing low demand. Whoever wishes to pay to win will do so in the first few days. The great majority who did not bother to buy SP yesterday will most likely not bother to buy tomorrow. So this leaves new players wishing to "gain" on established characters and veterans wishing to train a alt quickly on the demand side. As you said. Time will tell.
Dr Mibbles State War Academy Caldari State 5	Posted - 2016.02.11 13:50:46 - [37] - Quote (cross post from another thread) some interesting market developments on skill injectors and extractors There is now a huge and growing supply of extractors on the market. In Jita, there are 1,300 Skill Injectors on the market Whereas there are now 5,400 Skill Extractors This is a huge change from the first few days where numbers were more-or-less even. It currently profitable to buy plex in batches of 16, convert to AUR, get 70 extractors, then sell these on the market. 16 plex = 20bn Convert to AUR, get 70 extractors 70 extractors = 21bn A quick, easy, 1bn profit. As more people do this, it appears to be creating an over-supply of extractors as well as sustained high plex prices. This over-supply of extractors could lead to a situation where there is a mis-match between the available SP to be extracted and extractors themselves. The result? Could be an imminent price crash for extractors.
Dr Mibbles State War Academy Caldari State 10	Posted - 2016.02.11 22:34:14 - [38] - Quote Further interesting market developments. Looking at the number of buy/sell orders, and price trends, there appears to be an over-supply of skill extractors while demand for injectors remains balanced. Skill Extractors Units for Sale: 6,093 Units on Buy Orders: 1,804 Skill Injectors Units for Sale: 2,304 Units on Buy Orders: 2,353 The price of the Extractors is also on a significant downward curve, while prices for Injectors are steady. This may be due to the market being flooded with extractors but the amount of spare/unwanted SP available for extraction is, of course, declining as it is extracted in bulk.
Cruciflex Viziam Amarr Empire 2	Posted - 2016.02.11 23:40:57 - [39] - Quote Dr Mibbles wrote: Further interesting market developments. Looking at the number of buy/sell orders, and price trends, there appears to be an over-supply of skill extractors while demand for injectors remains balanced. Skill Extractors Units for Sale: 6,093 Units on Buy Orders: 1,804 Skill Injectors Units for Sale: 2,304 Units on Buy Orders: 2,353 The price of the Extractors is also on a significant downward curve, while prices for Injectors are steady. This may be due to the market being flooded with extractors but the amount of spare/unwanted SP available for extraction is, of course, declining as it is extracted in bulk. I hate such morons like you, who is putting his nose in all char auctions and spoiling the whole trade. Get the **** out useless idiot ! No one asked your opinion !
Dr Mibbles State War Academy Caldari State 10	Posted - 2016.02.11 23:43:07 - [40] - Quote Cruciflex wrote: I hate such morons like you, who is putting his nose in all char auctions and spoiling the whole trade. Get the **** out useless idiot ! No one asked your opinion ! Greetings, many of the sellers have been in touch thanking me for bringing the true value of their characters to their attention. I shall continue doing so. All the best x

Teckos Pech The Executives Executive Outcomes 4692	Posted - 2016.02.11 23:47:52 - [41] - Quote Damn Cruciflex did somebody come buy and urinate in your cheerios this morning. Upgrading Local to Eliminate All AFK Influence So Local Chat vanished, now what?
Cruciflex Viziam Amarr Empire 2	Posted - 2016.02.11 23:49:37 - [42] - Quote Dr Mibbles wrote: Cruciflex wrote: I hate such morons like you, who is putting his nose in all char auctions and spoiling the whole trade. Get the **** out useless idiot ! No one asked your opinion ! Greetings, many of the sellers have been in touch thanking me for bringing the true value of their characters to their attention. I shall continue doing so. All the best x You are just another wanker who has nothing to do with his life except just wasting it in game 24/7 and spoiling CCP to have new players. Because of such shitlords like you normal people can't buy a toon by a normal price for playing! Not for SP trading! Burn in hell idiot.
Dr Mibbles State War Academy Caldari State 11	Posted - 2016.02.11 23:53:07 - [43] - Quote Dear Mr Cruciflex, I fear you are blaming the wrong person. I am not an re-seller. Please blame CCP because it is their introduction of Skill Injectors which has led to this price increase. It's nothing to do with me, however I see nothing wrong with helping players fairly value their characters in light of this new mechanic.
Cruciflex Viziam Amarr Empire 2	Posted - 2016.02.11 23:53:52 - [44] - Quote Teckos Pech wrote: Damn Cruciflex did somebody come buy and urinate in your cheerios this morning. Yeah, I repeat. because of such morons like Dr Mibbles, normal players who wants to buy a toon for playing and not for SP trading now have to overpay the cost of such toon just because this shitlord posted a stupid message in each auction that the toon worth much more.... doh.
Cruciflex Viziam Amarr Empire 2	Posted - 2016.02.11 23:56:30 - [45] - Quote Dr Mibbles wrote: Dear Mr Cruciflex, I fear you are blaming the wrong person. I am not an re-seller. Please blame CCP because it is their introduction of Skill Injectors which has led to this price increase. It's nothing to do with me, however I see nothing wrong with helping players fairly value their characters in light of this new mechanic. If you are not a re-seller who the ** asked you to post in each auction ?????!!!!!!!! How dare you put your dirty nose not in your business. Are you a buyer? No! Are you a seller ? No! So what the *** hell you are doing there? One answer, you are a f*g trololo shitlord. The END. Burn in hell.
Teckos Pech The Executives Executive Outcomes 4692	Posted - 2016.02.11 23:56:37 - [46] - Quote Cruciflex wrote: Teckos Pech wrote: Damn Cruciflex did somebody come buy and urinate in your cheerios this morning. Yeah, I repeat. because of such morons like Dr Mibbles, normal players who wants to buy a toon for playing and not for SP trading now have to overpay the cost of such toon just because this shitlord posted a stupid message in each auction that the toon worth much more.... doh. Why is it his fault? Are you routinely in the habit of killing the messengers? If so, I hope I'll never be taking you any messages. Upgrading Local to Eliminate All AFK Influence So Local Chat vanished, now what?
Dr Mibbles State War Academy Caldari State 11	Posted - 2016.02.11 23:58:19 - [47] - Quote Cruciflex wrote: If you are not a re-seller who the ** asked you to post in each auction ?????!!!!!!!! How dare you put your dirty nose not in your business. Are you a buyer? No! Are you a seller ? No! So what the *** hell you are doing there? One answer, you are a f*g trololo shitlord. The END. Burn in hell. The re-sellers bump up the price, not me. Have you considered using skill injectors instead of buying whole new characters? The new prices are here to stay, I'm afraid. Best to work with it rather than rage against it.
Cruciflex Viziam Amarr Empire 2	Posted - 2016.02.11 23:59:04 - [48] - Quote Teckos Pech wrote: Cruciflex wrote: Teckos Pech wrote: Damn Cruciflex did somebody come buy and urinate in your cheerios this morning. Yeah, I repeat. because of such morons like Dr Mibbles, normal players who wants to buy a toon for playing and not for SP trading now have to overpay the cost of such toon just because this shitlord posted a stupid message in each auction that the toon worth much more.... doh. Why is it his fault? Are you routinely in the habit of killing the messengers? If so, I hope I'll never be taking you any messages. Are you really that stupid that you don't understand? No comments anymore...
Teckos Pech The Executives Executive Outcomes 4692	Posted - 2016.02.12 00:01:57 - [49] - Quote Cruciflex wrote: Teckos Pech wrote: Cruciflex wrote: Teckos Pech wrote: Damn Cruciflex did somebody come buy and urinate in your cheerios this morning. Yeah, I repeat. because of such morons like Dr Mibbles, normal players who wants to buy a toon for playing and not for SP trading now have to overpay the cost of such toon just because this shitlord posted a stupid message in each auction that the toon worth much more.... doh. Why is it his fault? Are you routinely in the habit of killing the messengers? If so, I hope I'll never be taking you any messages. Are you really that stupid that you don't understand? No comments anymore... Oh I see, he went into and auction you were bidding in and pointed out that the extractable SP is worth more than your bid. That is what has you so butthurt...he is sharing information. Well more information usually makes for a better functioning market.... Upgrading Local to Eliminate All AFK Influence So Local Chat vanished, now what?
Cruciflex Viziam Amarr Empire 2	Posted - 2016.02.12 00:01:58 - [50] - Quote Dr Mibbles wrote: Cruciflex wrote: If you are not a re-seller who the ** asked you to post in each auction ?????!!!!!!!! How dare you put your dirty nose not in your business. Are you a buyer? No! Are you a seller ? No! So what the *** hell you are doing there? One answer, you are a f*g trololo shitlord. The END. Burn in hell. The re-sellers bump up the price, not me. Have you considered using skill injectors instead of buying whole new characters? The new prices are here to stay, I'm afraid. Best to work with it rather than rage against it. I see that you are bad not only in mathematics, in logic as well. Poor boy.

Cruciflex Viziam Amarr Empire 2	Posted - 2016.02.12 00:06:58 - [51] - Quote Teckos Pech wrote: Cruciflex wrote: Teckos Pech wrote: Cruciflex wrote: Teckos Pech wrote: Damn Cruciflex did somebody come buy and urinate in your cheerios this morning. Yeah, I repeat. because of such morons like Dr Mibbles, normal players who wants to buy a toon for playing and not for SP trading now have to overpay the cost of such toon just because this shitlord posted a stupid message in each auction that the toon worth much more.... doh. Why is it his fault? Are you routinely in the habit of killing the messengers? If so, I hope I'll never be taking you any messages. Are you really that stupid that you don't understand? No comments anymore... Oh I see, he went into and auction you were bidding in and pointed out that the extractable SP is worth more than your bid. That is what has you so butthurt...he is sharing information. Well more information usually makes for a better functioning market.... Idiot. Switch ON you brain!!! Your information is making people rise up the price till it becomes too high for buying a toon for playing !!!! No one who wants to play in EVE at first time will buy the toons at this prices. The old players who didn't get the idea of skill trading were selling them at normal price till such f***g "informants" like you came and shitposted all the auctions.
Cruciflex Viziam Amarr Empire 2	Posted - 2016.02.12 00:11:01 - [52] - Quote Dr Mibbles wrote: Cruciflex wrote: If you are not a re-seller who the ** asked you to post in each auction ?????!!!!!!!! How dare you put your dirty nose not in your business. Are you a buyer? No! Are you a seller ? No! So what the *** hell you are doing there? One answer, you are a f*g trololo shitlord. The END. Burn in hell. The re-sellers bump up the price, not me. Have you considered using skill injectors instead of buying whole new characters? The new prices are here to stay, I'm afraid. Best to work with it rather than rage against it. IMPOTENT ! YOU ARE A COMPLETE IMPOTENT. FIND YOURSELF A GIRL AND LEAVE THIS FORUM. IDIOT !!!!
Jerry T Pepridge Meta Game Analysis and Investment INC. 712	Posted - 2016.02.12 00:13:50 - [53] - Quote have a rant about it crucifail lmfao. please continue posting butthurt comments here CCP will bring back tear extractors - 8k aurum each, this will raise the price of tears to 2 bowls of rice & a kick in the ass. so stop crying fgt - im losing isk @JerryTPepridge
Teckos Pech The Executives Executive Outcomes 4695	Posted - 2016.02.12 00:14:03 - [54] - Quote Cruciflex Look, this would happen anyways. Market arbitrage opportunities like this do not last long. Especially when there are potential returns of 20% or more. Competition will drive those profits down to the point where people can't be bothered to buy a character and then bleed him dry and sell the resulting injectors. You are blasting away at the messenger...okay maybe a somewhat annoying one who is popping up in the various character auction threads, but the effect you are upset about is going to be inevitable. Maybe instead of calling everyone around you an idiot...maybe you should look to your own beliefs and views first and see if you aren't the one who is being a bit...well...unreasonable, yeah that's a good euphemism. Upgrading Local to Eliminate All AFK Influence So Local Chat vanished, now what?
Cruciflex Viziam Amarr Empire 2	Posted - 2016.02.12 00:20:58 - [55] - Quote Jerry T Pepridge wrote: have a rant about it crucifail lmfao. please continue posting butthurt comments here CCP will bring back tear extractors - 8k aurum each, this will raise the price of tears to 2 bowls of rice & a kick in the ass. so stop crying fgt - im losing isk Another NPC wanker, wasting his life 24/7 in a game.
Jerry T Pepridge Meta Game Analysis and Investment INC. 713	Posted - 2016.02.12 00:22:34 - [56] - Quote Cruciflex wrote: Jerry T Pepridge wrote: have a rant about it crucifail lmfao. please continue posting butthurt comments here CCP will bring back tear extractors - 8k aurum each, this will raise the price of tears to 2 bowls of rice & a kick in the ass. so stop crying fgt - im losing isk Another NPC wanker, wasting his life 24/7 in a game. nice corp fgt you own viziam? shave your neckbeard you simple minded little fanboi @JerryTPepridge
Sala Kyss The Angel Cartel 120	Posted - 2016.02.12 00:29:05 - [57] - Quote He's obviously trying to cash in on underpriced characters. The one's he is bidding on are so diverse that they make no sense in a portfolio. Kind of sad to see so many vintage characters being completely gutted like this, thankfully Sala is spared the evils of this brain-drain trade because I'd sooner biomass her than let these jackals shred a decade old toon to make a few billion.
Alexi Stokov State War Academy Caldari State 101	Posted - 2016.02.12 00:54:43 - [58] - Quote Sala Kyss wrote: He's obviously trying to cash in on underpriced characters. The one's he is bidding on are so diverse that they make no sense in a portfolio. Kind of sad to see so many vintage characters being completely gutted like this, thankfully Sala is spared the evils of this brain-drain trade because I'd sooner biomass her than let these jackals shred a decade old toon to make a few billion. If they are going to make a few billion wouldn't that mean you did too? If you biomassed the toon, isn't that what they are doing plus the 5.5 million SP that can't be stripped? You're just wasting as you'd be throwing away all those tasty SPs!
Sabriz Adoudel Move along there is nothing here 5674	Posted - 2016.02.12 01:01:29 - [59] - Quote Oh god this thread is hilarious now. Cruciflex - if it wasn't your friend buying and stripping these characters it would be someone else. I do think there is overproduction of skill injectors at the moment and they will fall hard in price - well below the prices the fundamentals indicate would be a stable long-term price. I support the New Order and CODE. alliance. www.minerbumping.com Sabriz's Rule: "Any time someone argues for a game change claiming it is a quality of life change, the change is actually a game balance change".
Jerry T Pepridge Meta Game Analysis and Investment INC. 713	Posted - 2016.02.12 01:31:44 - [60] - Quote Sabriz Adoudel wrote: Oh god this thread is hilarious now. Cruciflex - if it wasn't your friend buying and stripping these characters it would be someone else. I do think there is overproduction of skill injectors at the moment and they will fall hard in price - well below the prices the fundamentals indicate would be a stable long-term price. havent logged in for a few weeks, mind telling the total volume / daily volume per day figures? @JerryTPepridge



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