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Ruune en Gravonere
Running with Dogs Stella Nova
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Posted - 2016.02.10 11:43:00 -
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Does anyone else think that if you extract your own SP and re-inject into the same char you should only be subject to the minimum SP loss?
After all this is just an opportunity to 'remap' your actual skill points with no Isk making involved
I'm sure this approach wouldn't dent the obvious new Plex purchasing/selling opportunities afforded by this new mechanic, the market for in char skill re-allocation is going to be limited and most of this trade will be for lower SP chars wanting a jump start
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
26900
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Posted - 2016.02.10 11:45:49 -
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No. The same (large) losses should be incurred precisely because it removes the ability to remap your SP.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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Lan Wang
Knights of the Posing Meat FETID
2406
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Posted - 2016.02.10 11:46:19 -
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no because being able to specialise character for the fotm isnt a great idea
PS. nice jacket and haircut
"Yeah. Put your tears in a jet can and leave them on your undock for your assailants to pick up. If they're camping you, I'm sure they're going to get thirsty." - Darth Squeemus
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Angel Cartel || Serpentis
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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
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Posted - 2016.02.10 13:07:26 -
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The diminishing returns are there to stop people abusing the hell out of it by constantly respeccing characters with high SP.
Civilized behaviour is knowing that violence is barbaric, but paying other people to do it is business.
Nil mortifi sine lucre.
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Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
10689
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Posted - 2016.02.10 13:11:27 -
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Ruune en Gravonere wrote:Thoughts?
I am prepping my Tear Collector as we speak
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Bumble's Space Log
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Memphis Baas
1102
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Posted - 2016.02.10 13:26:17 -
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Also, right now your SP go into an injector that is, as far as the database is concerned, the same as everyone else's. Basically, the information of what character it came from is lost. It would probably be a pain to track it.
If they do implement SP reallocation (for the same character), it will probably be simpler to just code the interface so you can pay your Aur fee and not have to use extractors or injectors. I think they're considering this, but are probably waiting for the Aria functionality. That way they don't have to code as much.
It'll still have penalties, though. |
Jenn aSide
Shinigami Miners Test Alliance Please Ignore
13559
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Posted - 2016.02.10 13:34:29 -
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I read the OP was saying "why can't I have my cake and eat it too?".. |
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
25885
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Posted - 2016.02.10 13:52:10 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:I read the OP was saying "why can't I have my cake and eat it too?".. There was cake?
I heard that it was a lie.
Civilized behaviour is knowing that violence is barbaric, but paying other people to do it is business.
Nil mortifi sine lucre.
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Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
14077
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Posted - 2016.02.10 14:08:18 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:I read the OP was saying "why can't I have my cake and eat it too?".. im not disagreeing with you but what fecking edjit buys cake without a reasonably expectation of being able to eat it
Better the Devil you know.
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Lan Wang
Knights of the Posing Meat FETID
2412
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Posted - 2016.02.10 14:44:28 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:I read the OP was saying "why can't I have my cake and eat it too?"..
Yeah i get it, "hey why my corp keep changing doctrines and i cant just change my skills to match"
"Yeah. Put your tears in a jet can and leave them on your undock for your assailants to pick up. If they're camping you, I'm sure they're going to get thirsty." - Darth Squeemus
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Angel Cartel || Serpentis
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Iria Ahrens
Space Perverts and Forum Pirates
704
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Posted - 2016.02.10 14:53:08 -
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I thought the same thing. But I hadn't considered it from the abusive angle, just wanted to tweak my character a little. But the abuse angle is a good one, because this is EvE.
Ahh well, so much for that idea. Thanks for posting. Thanks Tippia for explaining. I learned something today.
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:I read the OP was saying "why can't I have my cake and eat it too?".. im not disagreeing with you but what fecking edjit buys cake without a reasonably expectation of being able to eat it
I've always hated that cliche myself. It doess't make any more sense when someone explains it either. It's kinda like a joke, if someone has to explain it, you're still not gonna laugh.
My choice of pronouns is based on your avatar. Even if I know what is behind the avatar.
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Frostys Virpio
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
2587
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Posted - 2016.02.10 14:57:35 -
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Iria Ahrens wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:I read the OP was saying "why can't I have my cake and eat it too?".. im not disagreeing with you but what fecking edjit buys cake without a reasonably expectation of being able to eat it I've always hated that cliche myself. It doess't make any more sense when someone explains it either. It's kinda like a joke, if someone has to explain it, you're still not gonna laugh.
Maybe it means they want to have a cake and also eat a cake. Like 2 total cakes involved? |
Robert Caldera
Caldera Trading and Investment
1108
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Posted - 2016.02.10 18:03:33 -
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@OP: no. The loss is to prevent just that, *****! |
Logan Revelore
Symbiotic Systems
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Posted - 2016.02.10 22:52:26 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:I read the OP was saying "why can't I have my cake and eat it too?"..
Unrelated to the OT and mentioning that I don't side with the OP's argument, but what is a cake worth if you can't eat it when you have it? If I can't eat the cake, then I don't want it in the first place.
That "saying" sucks is what it boils down to. Find another one. |
Tisiphone Dira
WiNGSPAN Academy for Enterprising Pilots The WINGSPAN Logo Alliance
621
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Posted - 2016.02.10 23:02:47 -
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Logan Revelore wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:I read the OP was saying "why can't I have my cake and eat it too?".. Unrelated to the OT and mentioning that I don't side with the OP's argument, but what is a cake worth if you can't eat it when you have it? If I can't eat the cake, then I don't want it in the first place. That "saying" sucks is what it boils down to. Find another one.
Once it's eaten, you can no longer have it, get it? It makes a bit more sense if you phrase it the opposite way "you can't eat your cake and have it too" like a nutter.
This is actually a moderately famous thing in (forensic) linguistics because it's how they caught the unabomber. His manifesto released to the public had the cake saying phrased the opposite way which convinced his brother that 'hey maybe my wife is right, my brother says that...' which then led to the tip off and further analysis of his writings, which was enough for a search warrent...
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Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
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Posted - 2016.02.11 07:33:25 -
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Tisiphone Dira wrote:Logan Revelore wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:I read the OP was saying "why can't I have my cake and eat it too?".. Unrelated to the OT and mentioning that I don't side with the OP's argument, but what is a cake worth if you can't eat it when you have it? If I can't eat the cake, then I don't want it in the first place. That "saying" sucks is what it boils down to. Find another one. Once it's eaten, you can no longer have it, get it? It makes a bit more sense if you phrase it the opposite way "you can't eat your cake and have it too" like a nutter or somebody from before the 20th century. This is actually a moderately famous thing in (forensic) linguistics because it's how they caught the unabomber. His manifesto released to the public had the cake saying phrased the opposite way which convinced his brother that 'hey maybe my wife is right, my brother says that...' which then led to the tip off and further analysis of his writings, which was enough for a search warrent... if you eat your cake you still have it. nobody else has it.
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Tisiphone Dira
WiNGSPAN Academy for Enterprising Pilots The WINGSPAN Logo Alliance
622
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Posted - 2016.02.11 07:50:36 -
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Nobody has it, it's gone, eaten, devoured, consumed, gobbled, inhaled, ingested, om-nom-nomed. |
Ibutho Inkosi
Irubo Kovu
111
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Posted - 2016.02.11 08:03:02 -
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When I started today the basketball goal was ten feet off the ground. Now, it's just a foot and a half and I can look straight down the pipe without jumping! (I thought I'd never be able to slam dunk!)
As long as the tale of the hunt is told by the hunter, and not the lion, it will favor the hunter.
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Mithandra
Catastrophic Operations Get Off My Lawn
473
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Posted - 2016.02.11 14:04:51 -
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No.
One rule to bind them all.
Eve is the dark haired, totally hot emo gothchild of the gaming community
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