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Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
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Posted - 2016.02.11 11:32:38 -
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I thought I would start a separate thread for "Cookie Cutter" Burner fits that are cheap, dispense with overheating and require a minimum of micromanagement, piloting and replacement of expendables (drones, cap boosters and module repairs). ISK cost values are derived from pyfa, so expect a bit (~) of variance. Credit where due. .....
Burner Cruor -+ Jaguar Hull: 21.7m ISK, Fittings: 39.1m ISK; 60.8m ISK total
3x 200mm AutoCannon II Small Ghoul Compact Energy Nosferatu 10000x Republic Fleet Fusion S 5000x Hail S* (alternate, haven't tried this yet)
Upgraded EM Ward Amplifier I* Gistum C-Type Thermal Dissipation Amplifier* Republic Fleet Medium Shield Extender Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I*
Gyrostabilizer II 2x Shield Power Relay II Power Diagnostic System
2x Small Core Defense Field Purger II
Utilization: Keep at range >10km, lock, activate all offensive modules.
Pros: Minimal micromanagement, no cap booster costs; impossible to screw-up. Cons: Needs vampire to avoid web being capped out; takes a lot longer to kill Burner (~10min ETA).
Credit: heidou (*modifications Arthur) .....
Team Burner [ALL] -+ Garmur Hull: 65m ISK, Fittings: 31.7m ISK; 96.6m ISK total
3x Polarized Rocket Launcher 5000x (each) Caldari Navy Mjolnir, Inferno, Scourge, Nova rockets 2500x Javelin Mjolnir Rockets
5MN Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive 2x Missile Guidance Computer II, missile range script Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron
2x Ballistic Control System II Co-Processor II
Small Rocket Fuel Cache Partition II Small Hydaulic Bay Thrusters I Small Warhead Flare Catalyst I
Utilization: Orbit @20km (25km for Jaguar). Lock, activate MGCs and target escorts first. Apply ammunition as follows: Hawk/Bantam (Mjolnir), Burst (Javelin Mjolnir) Enyo/Navitas/Inquisitor (Nova), Vengeance: Inferno, Jaguar: Scourge.
Pros: Minimal micromanagement, no cap booster or drone costs; fast completion. Cons: Occasional wrecking shot can scare the sh*t out of you; forgetting to orbit Jaguar @25km.
Credit: Anize Oramara
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Arthur Aihaken
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4965
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Posted - 2016.02.12 03:52:03 -
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Added fit for Burner Succubus (Daredevil).
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Civ Kado
Antares Astronautics
107
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Posted - 2016.02.12 04:35:04 -
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I thought you could use ECM against them? |
Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
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Posted - 2016.02.12 04:51:39 -
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Civ Kado wrote:I thought you could use ECM against them? The Team Burners?
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Hasikan Miallok
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1901
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Posted - 2016.02.12 05:59:31 -
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ECM works on teamburners allowing a "safer" non-polarized light missile fit.
However the vagaries of ECM mean you will prob take more like 10 minutes per mission.
If you just run the occasional burner to supplement mainstream missioning the ECM LML Garmur is an OK safe cheap option. If you are trying to blitz burners and get your ISK/hour maxed out you probably need the Polarized Rocket version. |
Funky Koval
Bad Artists
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Posted - 2016.02.12 09:46:07 -
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I have been runing Team Burner missions in a rail Enyo with double mission-specific meta 4 ECM fitted.
The main issue with this setup is low dps applied to high kin/thermal resist burners. An arty version of the same concept might be a possible solution (Jaguar or even Thrasher?).
To avoid tracking issues, instead of orbiting I just keep at range. It does take up to 10 min to finish a mission though.
Intend to try polarized version of that fit too.
Not gonna post it here though, as the Garmur fit is likely better (if a tad more expensive).
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Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
4967
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Posted - 2016.02.12 10:42:53 -
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Hasikan Miallok wrote:If you just run the occasional burner to supplement mainstream missioning the ECM LML Garmur is an OK safe cheap option. If you are trying to blitz burners and get your ISK/hour maxed out you probably need the Polarized Rocket version. I'm also looking for fits where you don't have to swap out modules. The Polarized fit is 100% safe, and it's not hard to simply orbit and apply MWD.
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Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
10750
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Posted - 2016.02.12 12:45:14 -
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Try replacing the TP for another MGC; I don't know what your missile skills are like, but with 3x MGCs (without any scripts), I find that they seem to have more effect than with the TP applied.
This is just anecdotal though, I haven't done any rigorous testing or recording of data.
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Bumble's Space Log
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Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
4968
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Posted - 2016.02.12 13:25:46 -
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Bumblefck wrote:Try replacing the TP for another MGC; I don't know what your missile skills are like, but with 3x MGCs (without any scripts), I find that they seem to have more effect than with the TP applied.
This is just anecdotal though, I haven't done any rigorous testing or recording of data. I'll definitely give that a try. I've got perfect missile and TP skills along with +6 implants, so I don't think I'm going to see much of a difference between the TP and a third MCG. I could be wrong, though.
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Celthric Kanerian
Ascendance Of New Eden Workers Trade Federation
657
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Posted - 2016.02.20 00:10:47 -
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I wish Amarr ships were more viable for burner missions, so far I haven't seen anybody posting fits where they use amarr ships, in which they also work. |
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Ploing
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
50
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Posted - 2016.02.20 09:57:26 -
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Celthric Kanerian wrote:I wish Amarr ships were more viable for burner missions, so far I haven't seen anybody posting fits where they use amarr ships, in which they also work.
the vengeance should work but cant remember against which one. personally the succubus works very well against the angel dram. needs caldari frig too.
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Buoytender Bob
Ronin Exploration Mission and Mining
143
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Posted - 2016.02.23 03:27:06 -
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Am I reading correctly: the Garmur ok as a "one ship fit all" in regards to frigate class burner missions?
Sorry, asking for clarification.
To buck the popular trend, I began to Rage Start instead of Rage Quit.
...and every time I get another piece of Carbon, I know exactly what CCP is getting this Christmas.
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Ploing
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
52
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Posted - 2016.02.23 10:14:14 -
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Buoytender Bob wrote:Am I reading correctly: the Garmur ok as a "one ship fit all" in regards to frigate class burner missions?
Sorry, asking for clarification.
only for teamburner.
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ShadowGod56
Blood Oath Foundation Adaptation.
0
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Posted - 2016.02.23 21:00:51 -
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Ploing wrote:Buoytender Bob wrote:Am I reading correctly: the Garmur ok as a "one ship fit all" in regards to frigate class burner missions?
Sorry, asking for clarification. only for teamburner.
team burners being the ones where you have to fight the Frig and its 2 logi supports
i also got confused on this and found out the hard way lol |
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