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Gosakumori Noh
Hematology Advancement Program Of Questionable Repute
730
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Posted - 2016.02.11 22:03:45 -
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Dearest CONCORDIATE SWEETIE DARLINGS,
It should not be necessary to make primitive sava... wild, freeborn spirits with a deep connection to their ancestors and mud bricks LIKE you, or at least not despise you, before they allow you to shoot at people on their behalf.
Kindly remove the factional standing requirements for professional terrorism at your earliest convenience.
Thank you, that is all. |
Maria Daphiti
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
97
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Posted - 2016.02.11 22:20:01 -
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I oppose this Petition.
if anything, factional standing requirements should be increased. |
Pieter Tuulinen
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Multicultural F1 Brigade
5911
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Posted - 2016.02.11 22:35:44 -
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Lady Noh, you would not believe the stress and hassle this requirement cost us.
That said, if we were able to convince the Empire that a large number of former Sansha activists were suitable stalwart defenders of Her Imperial Majesty's mighty dominions, you ought to be able to get your blooders sufficiently minmatarised.
Talk to Nauplius. He seems to know exactly what Minmatarness is. I'm sure he can give you pointers.
"Caldari Prime burns, those left behind are choking on the dust and ash that fills the air, and you demand our surrender? Is this a joke? You have only hardened our resolve. Every drop of blood you have taken from us will be repaid -- with interest."
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Deitra Vess
Scope Works Psychotic Tendencies.
930
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Posted - 2016.02.11 23:04:24 -
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Maybe someone should be happy such "savages" let you fight for them in the first place.
I fully oppose this petition. If you wish to do right for our people being seen in decent standing should be a given. |
Gosakumori Noh
Hematology Advancement Program Of Questionable Repute
730
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Posted - 2016.02.11 23:22:25 -
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It isn't just *me*, darling. As Pieter notes (tangent: Pieter! Your hair is back to regulation!), even those who want to fight for golden holy laser imperialists must engage in wild contortions.
And by wild contortions, I mean genocide.
Because what these unreasonable requirements force upon those of us who only want to make a better world is the obliteration of innumerable baseliner vessels. In order to acquire little pieces of toe metal in varying shades, ship after ship must be exploded and its wreckage scoured for shiny detritus suitable for the demands of ghoulish emissaries from the "civilized" world.
All right, well, I suppose when it is put like that I shouldn't really object... all things considered. But I do!
To oppose my sensible, charitable, practically SoE-worthy petition is to be a harbinger of baseliner misery, suffering, and death. Why should hundreds of thousands of men and women only interested in the betterment of their families feel oxygen forcibly sucked from their lungs just so some capsuleers can shoot at one another in predominantly small, nimble cheapy ships?
I, Gosakumori Noh - Equilibrium Nun and Angel of Mercy (ironically, also an avid purchaser of Angel toe tags) - refuse to believe CONCORD has become so debased, so devoid of compassion and humanity, that it would not at least consider easing the hardships pod people inflict upon All Mankind.
Baseline standing requirements for capsuleers looking to shoot at one another must be abolished! |
Sinjin Mokk
Royal Khanid Colonial Exploration
729
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Posted - 2016.02.12 00:40:57 -
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Gosakumori Noh wrote: I, Gosakumori Noh - Equilibrium Nun and Angel of Mercy (ironically, also an avid purchaser of Angel toe tags) - refuse to believe CONCORD has become so debased, so devoid of compassion and humanity, that it would not at least consider easing the hardships pod people inflict upon All Mankind.
Baseline standing requirements for capsuleers looking to shoot at one another must be abolished!
CONCORD's pendulum wars are proof in and of itself that CONCORD is the most debased, devoid of compassion and Godless political entity in the Galaxy. Bloodraiders like you and Mercs like PYRE are small-time opportunists compared with the swaggering inhuman monstrosity that is CONCORD.
And people say I have a criminal background...
Dark Amarr: Rumors!
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Elmund Egivand
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
1025
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Posted - 2016.02.12 01:29:32 -
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Do these petitions even *do* anything?
A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.
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James Syagrius
Reclamation Technologies
1197
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Posted - 2016.02.12 01:54:46 -
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Elmund Egivand wrote:Do these petitions even *do* anything? Besides providing endless entertainment?
GÇ£Here also are the heralds of his praise."
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Gosakumori Noh
Hematology Advancement Program Of Questionable Repute
730
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Posted - 2016.02.12 02:11:03 -
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Sinjin Mokk wrote:CONCORD's pendulum wars are proof in and of itself that CONCORD is the most debased, devoid of compassion and Godless political entity in the Galaxy. Bloodraiders like you and Mercs like PYRE are small-time opportunists compared with the swaggering inhuman monstrosity that is CONCORD.
I refuse to believe that CONCORD is a debased monstrosity devoid of compassion... though it may be godless.
I do, however, approve of being compared to PYRE. Hello, sweeties!
Xs and O O Os! |
Veikitamo Gesakaarin
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Multicultural F1 Brigade
1821
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Posted - 2016.02.12 02:25:20 -
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Sinjin Mokk wrote:PYRE are small-time opportunists compared with the swaggering inhuman monstrosity that is CONCORD.
And people say I have a criminal background...
I've never wanted to set the whole cluster on fire, I just want to start a fire inside the internal bulkheads of another vessel.
Yes, CONCORD permits a merchant of death like myself to operate freely and with little consequence to the lives I take. That you may have moral objections to the current status quo will do little to change it I think. And I quite enjoy being small-time. It lets me focus on the ultraviolence without requirements of nebulous relevancy.
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Sinjin Mokk
Royal Khanid Colonial Exploration
731
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Posted - 2016.02.12 03:08:21 -
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Veikitamo Gesakaarin wrote:Sinjin Mokk wrote:PYRE are small-time opportunists compared with the swaggering inhuman monstrosity that is CONCORD.
And people say I have a criminal background... I've never wanted to set the whole cluster on fire, I just want to start a fire inside the internal bulkheads of another vessel. Yes, CONCORD permits a merchant of death like myself to operate freely and with little consequence to the lives I take. That you may have moral objections to the current status quo will do little to change it I think. And I quite enjoy being small-time. It lets me focus on the ultraviolence without requirements of nebulous relevancy.
You are correct. Moral, ethical or religious objections will not change the system.
Dark Amarr: Rumors!
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Gosakumori Noh
Hematology Advancement Program Of Questionable Repute
730
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Posted - 2016.02.12 03:29:03 -
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Veikitamo Gesakaarin wrote:It lets me focus on the ultraviolence without requirements of nebulous relevancy.
Oh I could just read that line over and over again. Wait! I have! |
Pieter Tuulinen
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Multicultural F1 Brigade
5915
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Posted - 2016.02.12 05:33:54 -
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Sinjin Mokk wrote:Gosakumori Noh wrote: I, Gosakumori Noh - Equilibrium Nun and Angel of Mercy (ironically, also an avid purchaser of Angel toe tags) - refuse to believe CONCORD has become so debased, so devoid of compassion and humanity, that it would not at least consider easing the hardships pod people inflict upon All Mankind.
Baseline standing requirements for capsuleers looking to shoot at one another must be abolished!
CONCORD's pendulum wars are proof in and of itself that CONCORD is the most debased, devoid of compassion and Godless political entity in the Galaxy. Bloodraiders like you and Mercs like PYRE are small-time opportunists compared with the swaggering inhuman monstrosity that is CONCORD. And people say I have a criminal background...
You do. Some of us remember back when Nationalism wasn't your drug of choice and, instead, you liked all the OTHER drugs Mr Mokk. It really wasn't all that long ago. Honestly, the product we sell is very straightforward compared to some of the stuff you and your friends peddled.
"Caldari Prime burns, those left behind are choking on the dust and ash that fills the air, and you demand our surrender? Is this a joke? You have only hardened our resolve. Every drop of blood you have taken from us will be repaid -- with interest."
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Utari Onzo
Pentag Blade Curatores Veritatis Alliance
922
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Posted - 2016.02.12 07:14:06 -
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To the OP:
Nuts!
"Face the enemy as a solid wall
For faith is your armor
And through it, the enemy will find no breach
Wrap your arms around the enemy
For faith is your fire
And with it, burn away his evil"
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Anabella Rella
Gradient
2121
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Posted - 2016.02.12 07:45:44 -
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I spoke with your CEO for a bit today Noh. It was an interesting little chat.
Instead of making pointless petitions you should get off your lazy ass, undock and help her grind those agent missions to get your corp standings up. Remember that friends don't let friends grind level 3s all alone. Share the pain!
When the world is running down, you make the best of what's still around.
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Elmund Egivand
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
1025
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Posted - 2016.02.12 07:50:59 -
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Anabella Rella wrote:I spoke with your CEO for a bit today Noh. It was an interesting little chat.
Instead of making pointless petitions you should get off your lazy ass, undock and help her grind those agent missions to get your corp standings up. Remember that friends don't let friends grind level 3s all alone. Share the pain!
Fit a Svipul and do it solo. It's not hard, just irritatingly tedious.
Also, sod all these petitions. All it ever does is make somebody feel good about pressing a button that ultimately amounts to nothing. I do not sign these things because I observed nobody ever takes action from having those petitions rubbed into their noses. In fact, I doubt these petitions even go any further than the PR head's desk.
A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.
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Skyweir Kinnison
182
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Posted - 2016.02.12 09:54:32 -
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Elmund Egivand wrote:
Also, sod all these petitions. All it ever does is make somebody feel good about pressing a button that ultimately amounts to nothing. I do not sign these things because I observed nobody ever takes action from having those petitions rubbed into their noses. In fact, I doubt these petitions even go any further than the PR head's desk.
With respect Captain, in the time I have known you, you have expressed perhaps the most cynical, self-centred and mercenary opinions on almost every matter. You believe in nothing and no-one, save for your wallet.
There is nothing inherently wrong with such an attitude - and your service, such as it is, still benefits the Federation strategically - but sneering at those who try and and influence matters on a greater scale than personal greed is unworthy.
Petitions of merit are certainly noticed by the powerful. Silence is similarly noticed.
Humanity has won its battle. Liberty now has a country.
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Elmund Egivand
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
1025
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Posted - 2016.02.12 10:02:43 -
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Skyweir Kinnison wrote:Elmund Egivand wrote:
Also, sod all these petitions. All it ever does is make somebody feel good about pressing a button that ultimately amounts to nothing. I do not sign these things because I observed nobody ever takes action from having those petitions rubbed into their noses. In fact, I doubt these petitions even go any further than the PR head's desk.
With respect Captain, in the time I have known you, you have expressed perhaps the most cynical, self-centred and mercenary opinions on almost every matter. You believe in nothing and no-one, save for your wallet. There is nothing inherently wrong with such an attitude - and your service, such as it is, still benefits the Federation strategically - but sneering at those who try and and influence matters on a greater scale than personal greed is unworthy. Petitions of merit are certainly noticed by the powerful. Silence is similarly noticed.
I believe that if one actually attempts to effect change, one organises an army that is willing to sweat and bleed for the cause and the means to take effective action and go effect said change. Doesn't have to be an army with guns, but it definitely needs an army of resolve, will and a plan that can actually hurt whoever it was the protest is targeted at, financially and politically.
Words and signatures without action amounts to nothing.
A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.
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Veikitamo Gesakaarin
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Multicultural F1 Brigade
1824
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Posted - 2016.02.12 10:27:07 -
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Skyweir Kinnison wrote:
With respect Captain, in the time I have known you, you have expressed perhaps the most cynical, self-centred and mercenary opinions on almost every matter. You believe in nothing and no-one, save for your wallet.
Like my creche drill instructor used to tell me: If you're not an idealist by the time you're twenty you have no heart. But if you're not a cynic by the time you're thirty, you have no brain.
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Skyweir Kinnison
182
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Posted - 2016.02.12 10:47:15 -
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Elmund Egivand wrote: I believe that if one actually attempts to effect change, one organises an army that is willing to sweat and bleed for the cause and the means to take effective action and go effect said change. Doesn't have to be an army with guns, but it definitely needs an army of resolve, will and a plan that can actually hurt whoever it was the protest is targeted at, financially and politically.
The language you use is militaristic, but the sentiment is one I can accept. However, it is restrictive. It is perfectly possible to mobilise opinion peacefully and effect change by argument, debate and consensus. The idea of a petition is to begin the debate, to judge whether such an 'army' might even exist. In the State for example, your view might be prevalent - one's opinion is given to you and if you defer, perhaps one only has the militray option. In a democracy, one must build consensus. One does not achieve much by 'hurting' one's opponents, at least in peace. Offering something they desire, for their benefit, is a much better strategy.
Elmund Egivand wrote:What I'm seeing here instead is an attempt to raise an army of button-clickers and signature-givers, both of which are meaningless actions unless acting as follow ups to further action. In my experience, such petitions do not come with follow-up actions. Besides, when's the last time one sees a Galnet petition effect anything?
Words and signatures without action amounts to nothing.
This particular petition is, in my own view, misguided. Nonetheless, many petitions gather people of like mind together for later action. For example, Doctor Priano's laudable attempt to highlight CONCORD's lack of transparency. There is a groundswell of support for her petition, one that CONCORD will not take lightly. We may not see them give in, but I feel sure the Councill will take note and something good will come of the initiative. The actions of IKAME and its partners are at the heart of the petition and form its moral authority - just the attributes that bring political change. One cannot force CONCORD, nor the Minmatar Republic - one can persuade.
Words are in fact, our greatest weapons. Signatures indicate our personal dedciation to an idea. Both are powerful.
Elmund Egivand wrote:Also, you are not entirely right about my skeptical attitude. The only persons I do believe in are my staff and my crew, the people who allow me to stay in space. I also believe in my ships and their ability to get the job done, and the Machine Spirit's will to see anything they set out to do through. In their case, I seek to earn their confidence as an operator who will use them to the upmost of their capabilities.
I do not condemn your personal motivations. In a way, they have a certain nobility.
Humanity has won its battle. Liberty now has a country.
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Nameira Vanis-Tor
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Multicultural F1 Brigade
341
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Posted - 2016.02.12 11:30:49 -
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Gosakumori Noh wrote:Sinjin Mokk wrote:CONCORD's pendulum wars are proof in and of itself that CONCORD is the most debased, devoid of compassion and Godless political entity in the Galaxy. Bloodraiders like you and Mercs like PYRE are small-time opportunists compared with the swaggering inhuman monstrosity that is CONCORD. I refuse to believe that CONCORD is a debased monstrosity devoid of compassion... though it may be godless. I do, however, approve of being compared to PYRE. Hello, sweeties! Xs and O O Os! .
We are getting complimented?
This must be a trick of some kind...
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Halfrek Foley
Hematology Advancement Program Of Questionable Repute
24
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Posted - 2016.02.12 12:55:29 -
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Anabella Rella wrote:I spoke with your CEO for a bit today Noh. It was an interesting little chat.
Instead of making pointless petitions you should get off your lazy ass, undock and help her grind those agent missions to get your corp standings up. Remember that friends don't let friends grind level 3s all alone. Share the pain! Directrix Noh is far from lazy. |
Ashlar Vellum
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
232
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Posted - 2016.02.12 14:27:14 -
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You should direct this to TLF or if you want to go even further maybe even to cartel.
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Elsebeth Rhiannon
Icecream Audit Office
680
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Posted - 2016.02.12 14:37:14 -
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1) It is in the interest of keeping peace to channel patriotic warmongering sentiments into these toy wars.
2) It is in the interest of nation states to use Militias as holding pens for potential loyalist forces, in case we actually need to escalate one day.
3) CONCORD wants to charge you good money for "war declarations".
In other words; if you just want targets to explode, just pay your war dec costs like every other pirate. If you want into the factional wars, pick a loyalty and stick to it.
Want some nuts with your intelligence?
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Gosakumori Noh
Hematology Advancement Program Of Questionable Repute
733
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Posted - 2016.02.12 15:07:54 -
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Elmund Egivand wrote:Anabella Rella wrote:I spoke with your CEO for a bit today Noh. It was an interesting little chat.
Instead of making pointless petitions you should get off your lazy ass, undock and help her grind those agent missions to get your corp standings up. Remember that friends don't let friends grind level 3s all alone. Share the pain! Fit a Svipul and do it solo. It's not hard, just irritatingly tedious.
I used a Magus.
Elmund Egivand wrote:In fact, I doubt these petitions even go any further than the PR head's desk.
I doubt they make it that far. If you do not understand the purpose of these petitions, it seems I overestimated you.
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Sinjin Mokk
Royal Khanid Colonial Exploration
733
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Posted - 2016.02.13 02:35:18 -
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Pieter Tuulinen wrote:Sinjin Mokk wrote:Gosakumori Noh wrote: I, Gosakumori Noh - Equilibrium Nun and Angel of Mercy (ironically, also an avid purchaser of Angel toe tags) - refuse to believe CONCORD has become so debased, so devoid of compassion and humanity, that it would not at least consider easing the hardships pod people inflict upon All Mankind.
Baseline standing requirements for capsuleers looking to shoot at one another must be abolished!
CONCORD's pendulum wars are proof in and of itself that CONCORD is the most debased, devoid of compassion and Godless political entity in the Galaxy. Bloodraiders like you and Mercs like PYRE are small-time opportunists compared with the swaggering inhuman monstrosity that is CONCORD. And people say I have a criminal background... You do. Some of us remember back when Nationalism wasn't your drug of choice and, instead, you liked all the OTHER drugs Mr Mokk. It really wasn't all that long ago. Honestly, the product we sell is very straightforward compared to some of the stuff you and your friends peddled.
Still petty ante compared to the things CONCORD pulls daily.
Dark Amarr: Rumors!
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Pieter Tuulinen
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Multicultural F1 Brigade
5924
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Posted - 2016.02.13 18:50:34 -
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Sinjin Mokk wrote:Pieter Tuulinen wrote:Sinjin Mokk wrote:Gosakumori Noh wrote: I, Gosakumori Noh - Equilibrium Nun and Angel of Mercy (ironically, also an avid purchaser of Angel toe tags) - refuse to believe CONCORD has become so debased, so devoid of compassion and humanity, that it would not at least consider easing the hardships pod people inflict upon All Mankind.
Baseline standing requirements for capsuleers looking to shoot at one another must be abolished!
CONCORD's pendulum wars are proof in and of itself that CONCORD is the most debased, devoid of compassion and Godless political entity in the Galaxy. Bloodraiders like you and Mercs like PYRE are small-time opportunists compared with the swaggering inhuman monstrosity that is CONCORD. And people say I have a criminal background... You do. Some of us remember back when Nationalism wasn't your drug of choice and, instead, you liked all the OTHER drugs Mr Mokk. It really wasn't all that long ago. Honestly, the product we sell is very straightforward compared to some of the stuff you and your friends peddled. Still petty ante compared to the things CONCORD pulls daily.
Here we have no disagreements. I hate my six-monthly meeting with what I've started referring to as my "case worker" or my "handler" so that we can talk about ways I can improve my lifestyle and then end with the paperwork where I sign over all the money that restitution requires.
It's all about the money.
"Caldari Prime burns, those left behind are choking on the dust and ash that fills the air, and you demand our surrender? Is this a joke? You have only hardened our resolve. Every drop of blood you have taken from us will be repaid -- with interest."
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Jev North
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security
432
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Posted - 2016.02.13 20:23:22 -
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Gosakumori Noh wrote:Xs and O O Os! GÖÑ
Elsebeth Rhiannon wrote:In other words; if you just want targets to explode, just pay your war dec costs like every other pirate. I don't.. what?
Elsebeth Rhiannon wrote:If you want into the factional wars, pick a loyalty and stick to it. Nah.
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Elmund Egivand
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
1025
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Posted - 2016.02.16 08:32:22 -
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Very sorry for the very late reply, Mr. Kinnison. There is much to think about and elaborate on and I really like to sit down and think this through. However, the going-onGÇÖs on my end conspired to deprive me of any free time I need to come up with a proper reply. Now that nothing is demanding my attention, I can now go through your points and reply to them in a hopefully satisfactory manner.
Skyweir Kinnison wrote:
The language you use is militaristic, but the sentiment is one I can accept. However, it is restrictive. It is perfectly possible to mobilise opinion peacefully and effect change by argument, debate and consensus. The idea of a petition is to begin the debate, to judge whether such an 'army' might even exist. In the State for example, your view might be prevalent - one's opinion is given to you and if you defer, perhaps one only has the militray option. In a democracy, one must build consensus. One does not achieve much by 'hurting' one's opponents, at least in peace. Offering something they desire, for their benefit, is a much better strategy.
When I mentioned the need for an GÇÿarmyGÇÖ, I do not necessarily mean an army bearing weapons with the intent to cause bloodshed. I meant a crowd of people who are willing to put their careers, lives and social lives at risk for the sake of advancing the advocated cause. However, this army has to be dedicated, as already mentioned earlier, it has to be *very* visible, *very* persistent and it has to be able to hurt the decision-makers in some way.
Using the example of democracy, you need a very loud army of protestors, parked in a very visible spot that also happens to disrupt the logistics and administrative functions of the organisation of which the decision-makers belong to. Their presence alone will be threatening enough, especially if the decision-makers belong to a governing body, considering that this army is made out of people who will not be voting for them in the next election until they address the issue-in-question and satisfy the army in some way. However, all of this will be for nothing if the army canGÇÖt gather on a weekly basis to generate persistent publicity. An army that shows up only once and then vanishes for the rest of the year is in no way threatening to the decision-makers, especially since the lack of persistence allows them to GÇÿforgetGÇÖ about the issue and do nothing about it.
In other societies, yes, said army will need weapons and leaders with military backgrounds.
Skyweir Kinnison wrote: This particular petition is, in my own view, misguided. Nonetheless, many petitions gather people of like mind together for later action. For example, Doctor Priano's laudable attempt to highlight CONCORD's lack of transparency. There is a groundswell of support for her petition, one that CONCORD will not take lightly. We may not see them give in, but I feel sure the Councill will take note and something good will come of the initiative. The actions of IKAME and its partners are at the heart of the petition and form its moral authority - just the attributes that bring political change. One cannot force CONCORD, nor the Minmatar Republic - one can persuade.
Words are in fact, our greatest weapons. Signatures indicate our personal dedciation to an idea. Both are powerful.
The last time CONCORD actually responded to capsuleer protests without resorting to CONCORDOKKEN-ing all the protestors away and actually fix something that I can think of was during the Monocle-gate incident. I do not need to elaborate what went on, but I firmly believe that the only reason why CONCORD responded was because the capsuleer protests *hurt* them, and the rest of high-sec (and possibly the rest of the cluster).
Remember that the protest eventually developed to the point that the capsuleers occupied Jita, shot up a monument and then proceed to resign from capsuleer-hood (either momentarily or permanently) en-masse, resulting in a slow-down in trade and causing an economic repression all around the cluster. This forced CONCORD to actually sit down and listen and act for once.
Yes, words were traded prior to the riot, but had the words not inspired the participants of the riot into, well, rioting, the words would be meaningless. Words by themselves mean nothing. People say things all the time and then forget all about it the next day. For the words to actually mean something, said words must inspire action.
A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.
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Skyweir Kinnison
194
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Posted - 2016.02.17 11:56:56 -
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Thank you for the well-argued reply, Captain Egivand.
We are, I think, essentially in agreement. Where perhaps our views diverge is more a matter of emphasis. I believe that persuasion and consensus must be the first port of call in our democracy, and direct action the last. Militancy tends to create a sense of 'winners and losers' which inevitably makes the necessary compromises a greater challenge than they might have been at the start.
I am not one who considers a government must be afraid of its people - unless that government proves so cavalier with the rights and safeguards of its people as to deserve their wrath.
Nonetheless, such a consensual approach demands political literacy from its people, and their engagement. I fear that too many of our citizens take our freedoms for granted these days - but that is a discussion for another day.
I am particularly glad to see that I was wrong in my accusations of self-interest towards you, and that you have in fact benefitted hugely from those 'constant' political discussions forced upon you by colleagues.
Humanity has won its battle. Liberty now has a country.
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