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Maradusa Macarthy
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2016.02.12 06:41:17 -
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Sigh, this game is soo dead to me now that I no longer have the desire to update any of my market orders anymore or do any more exploration since isk has become so cheap and easy to acquire now. Other than PVP, is there really any point to playing this game now?? |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
15220
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Posted - 2016.02.12 06:54:21 -
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Take a break. Save your stuff, take some time off, come back and see if it's still for you, if not get rid of everything and close the account.
I've met many that simply needed to get away from it for a while to get a new spark.
/c
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Aida Nu
Rifterlings Zero.Four Ops
103
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Posted - 2016.02.12 06:55:24 -
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If you play for ISK you are doing it wrong. This is a game, play for fun. If you are bored and dont have fun move on to other games. |
Maradusa Macarthy
Hedion University Amarr Empire
6
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Posted - 2016.02.12 07:08:42 -
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Chribba wrote:Take a break. Save your stuff, take some time off, come back and see if it's still for you, if not get rid of everything and close the account.
I've met many that simply needed to get away from it for a while to get a new spark.
/c Ty so much for this advice, I was about to start biomassing all my chars and go play Diablo 3. But I still have 4 months of playtime still left over so I'll do just this.
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Maradusa Macarthy
Hedion University Amarr Empire
6
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Posted - 2016.02.12 07:13:13 -
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Aida Nu wrote:If you play for ISK you are doing it wrong. This is a game, play for fun. If you are bored and dont have fun move on to other games. Excellent point, but CCP just killed a very important element in this game that contributed to me having fun in this game which was seeking the wealth in uncharted territories. And now all you have to do is sell your own SP for isk which is just plain stupid to begin with and sigh.... why did CCP ever do such a thing to this game.
Anyways I'm gonna take a break like Chribba suggested and if I still feel the same way 2 months from now then I know this is the end of Eve for me. |
Nick Bete
The Scope Gallente Federation
391
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Posted - 2016.02.12 07:25:09 -
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Oh my, yet another in a long line of "they're dumbing down the game and making it so much easier than back when I started when I had to walk to school in the snow uphill both ways" anti-SP trading threads...
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Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
2192
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Posted - 2016.02.12 07:36:30 -
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Removing unwanted SP you can do only once ... further SP sold just makes your account F2P, so you still need ISK to burn. But agreed, EvE is more about spending ISK on fun activities.
I'm my own NPC alt.
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Lan Wang
Knights of the Posing Meat FETID
2430
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Posted - 2016.02.12 07:50:07 -
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if isk is so easy then, buy a fleet of vargurs, gather some friends, tear up lowsec
"Yeah. Put your tears in a jet can and leave them on your undock for your assailants to pick up. If they're camping you, I'm sure they're going to get thirsty." - Darth Squeemus
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Angel Cartel || Serpentis
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Maekchu
Gunpoint Diplomacy
187
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Posted - 2016.02.12 07:51:34 -
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I can make the game hard for you again.
Just give me all your SP. |
Elmund Egivand
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
1025
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Posted - 2016.02.12 07:59:20 -
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Go play XCOM 2 for a month or two. On Commander Ironman.
A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.
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Perkin Warbeck
Higher Than Everest The-Culture
200
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Posted - 2016.02.12 08:00:22 -
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Maradusa Macarthy wrote:Excellent point, but CCP just killed a very important element in this game that contributed to me having fun in this game which was seeking the wealth in uncharted territories. And now all you have to do is sell your own SP for isk which is just plain stupid to begin with and sigh.... why did CCP ever do such a thing to this game
You mean every time someone uses a skill injector a data or relic site despawns forever? CCPlease fix. |
Jovana
Booze Blues n' Tattoos United Systems of Aridia
0
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Posted - 2016.02.12 08:02:06 -
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if you decide to quit, please send me something of value that I can sell and make some isk to buy my plex |
Demica Diaz
SE-1
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Posted - 2016.02.12 08:15:34 -
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Elmund Egivand wrote:Go play XCOM 2 for a month or two. On Commander Ironman.
Pffft. Legendary Ironman. In lower difficulties game cheats by giving you increase AIM if you miss often.
But yeah OP. Just play something else. EVE isnt going anywhere. |
Casual Genius
Bad Influence ChaosTheory.
12
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Posted - 2016.02.12 08:26:24 -
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Perkin Warbeck wrote:Maradusa Macarthy wrote:Excellent point, but CCP just killed a very important element in this game that contributed to me having fun in this game which was seeking the wealth in uncharted territories. And now all you have to do is sell your own SP for isk which is just plain stupid to begin with and sigh.... why did CCP ever do such a thing to this game You mean every time someone uses a skill injector a data or relic site despawns forever? CCPlease fix.
no more exploration pls fix ! |
Lord Ra
Section XII The Southern Querious Drug Cartel
38
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Posted - 2016.02.12 09:11:01 -
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I play EVE just to make isk as a fan of tycoon games its carebear to most but i personally enjoy it.
Set yourself a target of 1 tril and get to work, be the best at everything.
Good luck!. |
Indahmawar Fazmarai
4684
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Posted - 2016.02.12 09:35:19 -
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Maradusa Macarthy wrote:Sigh, this game is soo dead to me now that I no longer have the desire to update any of my market orders anymore or do any more exploration since isk has become so cheap and easy to acquire now from selling unwanted SP. Other than PVP, is there really any point to playing this game now??
What Chribba said. Take a break. Play something else. If you never again feel the itch, good for you. If you feel it (and you WILL), you will have all your assets ready to play again.
CCP Seagull: "EVE should be a universe where the infrastructure you build and fight over is as player driven and dynamic as the EVE market is now".
62% of players: "We're not interested. May we have Plan B, please?"
CCP Seagull: "What Plan B?"
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
7275
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Posted - 2016.02.12 09:41:02 -
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Chribba wrote:Take a break. Save your stuff, take some time off, come back and see if it's still for you, if not get rid of everything and close the account.
I've met many that simply needed to get away from it for a while to get a new spark.
/c ^ good advice ^
I haven't logged in for months (on too much of a roll getting RL stuff done to get back into the game) but the long skill ques keep me subbing and someday I shall do more than shitpoast in the forums.
Eve been around for a long time, and it's not going anywhere. Can't wait to come back myself someday.
Bring back DEEEEP Space!
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Sobaan Tali
Caldari Quick Reaction Force
805
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Posted - 2016.02.12 09:41:46 -
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Keep in mind, even if an account elapses in its payment method (run out of game time or stop paying for account without PLEX'ing it), all the relevant data stays on CCP's database permanently. I have an old account that's been inactive since 2011-2012 time frame and it's still there according to the account manager website. I could should I have need to reactivate that account and all characters on it would be right where I left them. Taking a break, even a long one, does not necessarily require biomassing or closing accounts. I'm sure CCP won't mind, unless I'm wrong. You could just snag a PLEX now/later and just resub at a later date when you're ready to come back -- account manager allows you to reactivate an old account for a 4-hour grace period to PLEX defunct accounts by using PLEX in game (just don't abuse it).
In any case, what ever you end up deciding to do now, fly safe and go nuts, mate.
"Tomahawks?"
"----in' A, right?"
"Trouble is, those things cost like a million and a half each."
"----, you pay me half that and I'll hump in some c4 and blow the ---- out of it my own damn self."
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Amarisen Gream
Divine Demise Apocalypse Now.
205
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Posted - 2016.02.12 10:49:38 -
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The problem I have isn't so much that EVE has gotten boring - I have no problem being a mindless drone ratting for ISK. I play EVE to talk with people.
The thing turning me off from EVE right now is that I have lost most of my faith in CCP. It just feels like every good change is countered by some other means.
I at least have other games to play D3, SC2, Rebal Galaxy, Planetbase and tones of other stuff i own and never really play. So I am taking a slow down in playing EVE (4-5 hours a week vs 20+)
"The Lord loosed upon them his fierce anger
All of his fury and rage.
He dispatched against them a band of Avenging Angels"
- The Scriptures, Book II, Apocalypse 10:1
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Ibutho Inkosi
Irubo Kovu
119
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Posted - 2016.02.12 10:53:28 -
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Even cowgirls get the blues.
As long as the tale of the hunt is told by the hunter, and not the lion, it will favor the hunter.
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Sneaky Little Bastard
State War Academy Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2016.02.12 10:55:29 -
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Maradusa Macarthy wrote: is there really any point to playing this game now??
It depends, do you like P2W games ? |
Chameleopardis
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2016.02.12 20:05:07 -
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Maradusa Macarthy wrote:Sigh, this game is soo dead to me now that I no longer have the desire to update any of my market orders anymore or do any more exploration since isk has become so cheap and easy to acquire now from selling unwanted SP. Other than PVP, is there really any point to playing this game now?? You can donate 100 million ISK to me. After that I will tell you that EVE is a boring game for boring people |
Avvy
Republic University Minmatar Republic
301
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Posted - 2016.02.12 20:11:57 -
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Start a thread in GD.
Oh, but then you've already done that. |
Iria Ahrens
Space Perverts and Forum Pirates
717
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Posted - 2016.02.12 20:14:36 -
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I've taken many breaks from eve, some more than 2 years long. I'm always glad I didn't biomass my character, and I'm always annoyed that I didn't keep my account active and train my skills.
I guess that annoyance about leaving the account active won't matter so much anymore next time I want to play a game with swords and magic instead of ships and lazers.
My choice of pronouns is based on your avatar. Even if I know what is behind the avatar.
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stg slate
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
37
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Posted - 2016.02.12 20:20:00 -
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Maradusa Macarthy wrote:Sigh, this game is soo dead to me now that I no longer have the desire to update any of my market orders anymore or do any more exploration since isk has become so cheap and easy to acquire now from selling unwanted SP. Other than PVP, is there really any point to playing this game now??
First world problem... I have too much money in my internet spaceship game so it isn't exciting anymore. |
Salah ad-Din al-Jawahiri
new order logistics CODE.
373
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Posted - 2016.02.12 21:20:39 -
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A lot of people here don't know what to do when they stop enjoying the game because they're feeling bad about the massive amount of time and money invested - and end up with a Stockholm syndrome. It can manifest itself in different ways: 1. The player turns to other players for advice about saving the precarious relationship with this abusive virtual girlfriend (like what OP is doing); 2. Another tries his best to convince the player described above to stay using whatever stupid arguments possible, because he himself is suffering from the very same problem; 3. The third type may or may not be playing currently, but he stays subbed regardless and keeps sperging on the forums (remember the various "I'm quitting", "EVE suks" and "Start Citizen is better" threads?).
@ OP: Chribba's advice is sound: If you don't enjoy playing anymore, don't play. Don't get dramatic and do something stupid and pointless, like biomassing everything after undocking your main from Jita 4-4 in an officer-fit RNI on suspect - leave it for the hysterical types. Just unsub all your accounts and do something more useful and/or enjoyable with your time. Brooding on the forums will not do you any good whatsoever.
If you eventually feel like returning - we'll happily welcome you back. If you don't - then, good luck and congrats on winning EVE. But that's a decision you have to make yourself. No one will do that for you. |
Barron Hammerstrike
RISK Inc.
41
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Posted - 2016.02.12 21:37:40 -
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If I had billions of ISK to spare I'd start a war. Hire a Merc corp to bash a bunch of POCOS and another corp to distract the POCO's owners. |
Perkin Warbeck
Higher Than Everest The-Culture
203
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Posted - 2016.02.12 21:58:45 -
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Sneaky Little Bastard wrote:Maradusa Macarthy wrote: is there really any point to playing this game now?? It depends, do you like P2W games ?
Sorry what's changed again? Four days ago I could buy a character off the Character Bazaar or any ship in game with plex and do whatever I wanted to. The pay to win boat sailed a long, long time ago so keep up.
But what does winning in EvE mean anyway? The game has so many facets to it that winning is almost an irrelevant concept. I could inject millions of SP and still be awful at kiting and die in a fire every time I sit in an Inty. And yes I could get Logi 5 in a few minutes but if my FC is sh*t and welps the fleet every time we undock then it won't matter much. How does someone having more SP affect exploration or missioning or mining in any meaningful way? Does anyone ever care about killboards or their wallet balance beyond a certain point? I would argue not (and if you do then you are bad).
I would argue that the key metric to success in this game is your reputation. No amount of isk or skill points will change that. Bads will always be bads. So take a break but have a think about what play to win actually means. |
Jenn aSide
Shinigami Miners Test Alliance Please Ignore
13598
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Posted - 2016.02.12 22:19:23 -
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Maradusa Macarthy wrote:Aida Nu wrote:If you play for ISK you are doing it wrong. This is a game, play for fun. If you are bored and dont have fun move on to other games. Excellent point, but CCP just killed a very important element in this game that contributed to me having fun in this game which was seeking the wealth in uncharted territories. And now all you have to do is sell your own SP for isk which is just plain stupid to begin with and sigh.... why did CCP ever do such a thing to this game. Anyways I'm gonna take a break like Chribba suggested and if I still feel the same way 2 months from now then I know this is the end of Eve for me.
I know how you feel though I'm not quiting because I have many friends that play.
Skill point trading didn't start the problem, it's actually been going on for years. Before 2009 it wasn't like that. Then CCP (in a quest to 'reward' people more) added regenerating anomalies, incursions, wormholes, burners, new rewards in old content (like when they introduced the Gistum and Pithum Invuls), the monstrosity called Faction Warfare missions and super buffed ways to make pve, exploration and mining isk with more ships, more bonuses and more shortcuts.
The end result is everything is cheap as all hell, wealth is so easy to generate that even before sp trading a 3 week old noob with a Vexor Navy Issue and tech1 heavy drones could go to the deepest part of null and make enough isk ratting ONE HOUR A DAY to buy a plex, and not long after that same guy is in a pirate BS doing high sec incursions.
CCP has totally muffed the rewards scheme of this game, and people who play for more than watching other people's ships explode are affected by this. It used to be a real thrill to get a 10/10 escalation while dodging people trying to scan me down and kill me. Now (even before this ridiculous SP trading) I get a 10/10 and there is a 50% chance I'm going to let it expire because I can't be arsed to jump my Sin to a cyno to do it.
And now with SP trading it's even worse. I got an Angel 10/10 holding right now. Do I do it and maybe make 500 mil (a sum that used to be useful) for an hour's play, or cash in the 75 bil I'm sitting on from an Alt I don't use that much? Doing that 10/10 now would feel like bobbing for Zimbabwe dollars. |
Jenn aSide
Shinigami Miners Test Alliance Please Ignore
13598
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Posted - 2016.02.12 22:28:13 -
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Salah ad-Din al-Jawahiri wrote:A lot of people here don't know what to do when they stop enjoying the game because they're feeling bad about the massive amount of time and money invested - and end up with a Stockholm syndrome. It can manifest itself in different ways: 1. The player turns to other players for advice about saving the precarious relationship with this abusive virtual girlfriend (like what OP is doing); 2. Another tries his best to convince the player described above to stay using whatever stupid arguments possible, because he himself is suffering from the very same problem; 3. The third type may or may not be playing currently, but he stays subbed regardless and keeps sperging on the forums (remember the various "I'm quitting", "EVE suks" and "Start Citizen is better" threads?).
@ OP: Chribba's advice is sound: If you don't enjoy playing anymore, don't play. Don't get dramatic and do something stupid and pointless, like biomassing everything after undocking your main from Jita 4-4 in an officer-fit RNI on suspect - leave it for the hysterical types. Just unsub all your accounts and do something more useful and/or enjoyable with your time. Brooding on the forums will not do you any good whatsoever.
If you eventually feel like returning - we'll happily welcome you back. If you don't - then, good luck and congrats on winning EVE. But that's a decision you have to make yourself. No one will do that for you.
Thing is this. You enjoy the tears of others (i'll bet that never gets old). You can always get this.
Folks like me like exploring, defeating NPCs while dodging real players. That used to be a whole lot of fun and you had something tangible (isk, loot, whatever) that could affect your gameplay later. Now the loot is worth next to nothing and acquiring it means nothing. So much so that there are even less people trying to hunt you down (because their motivations was both your killmail AND profit). What I like to do has taken a real hit lately, and the things I like to do on the side (fleet pvp in null) took an Aegis sized hit months ago.
I still have entertaining things to do and are thinking of other things (who knows, with all these billions I might buy some form of citadel), but it's like CCP is just throwing stuff up against the wall and seeing what sticks. |
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