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Gan Ning
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Posted - 2003.12.10 11:13:00 -
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I was undocking from a station in Torrinos and for a split second I noticed that the station looked a bit like a big ship. That got me thinking about the possibility of Motherships in EVE. Motherships would make long range war efforts more worthwhile. Some may say Titans will be like this, but I'm a bit confused about the exact role of the Titan and what impact it will have in EVE.
If Titans are merely the next thing up from an industrial for corporation use it wont be much use tactically in pvp.
Mothership Features: * Ships can dock at (not in, but attached to externally) * It will have a repair facility * Cap/Shield Recharge Facility * Minimal fixed cargo space for carrying ammo/shuttles. (20,000 m3)
Weapons: * No weapons, no drone space. * No High, Med, Low slots
Defence 2000 Shield, 1000 Armor, 12000 Structure when in ship form. 70,000 Shield 50,000 Structure when deployed and stationary.
Speed: Fixed speed of 100m/s when mobile
How would Motherships work: The CEO of the corporation would fly the Mothership to its destination. The CEO would then deploy it and in 60-180 seconds it would deploy and anchor itself in space. The CEO would have a basic interface replacing the High/Mid/Low slots, showing which ship is docked to the Mothership and which facility they are using.
When the Mothership wishes to move on, the CEO would unanchor it and it will convert back into its ship form. He will then fly it away. The CEO cannot move the ship while its deployed and anchored.
If the CEO logs off... ..while it's anchored, all ships attached will no longer be able to use its facilities. ..while it's in ship form, it disappears after a few minutes like normal ships.
What if it's destroyed? If the Mothership is destroyed whilst the CEO is logged on, he ejects in a pod. If the Mothership is destroyed whilst the CEO is logged off and it was still anchored in space, he logs back in, in a pod.
Suggested Requirements to Fly/Deploy:
* Must be CEO of corporation * Spaceship Command Lv5 * Industrial Rank Lv5 * Battleship Rank Lv5 * Leadership Level 5 * Corporation management Lv5 * Anchoring Lv5 * Mechanic Lv5 * Repair Systems Lv3
Cost: 30 Billion ISK each, purchasable through certain Faction stations only.
Due to the unique requirements this wont be a class of ship people will be spamming you to buy on Market Channel. Very expansive and only flyable by CEO's with the appropriate skills.
I would like to hear your views on this.
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Discorporation
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Posted - 2003.12.10 11:15:00 -
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wheee, transformers
[Heterocephalus glaber]
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Lianhaun
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Posted - 2003.12.10 11:18:00 -
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Quote: wheee, transformers
I still shudder at the thought that you made the transformer noises with Inferno from livingdeaddolls
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Lianhaun
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Posted - 2003.12.10 11:21:00 -
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Must be CEO of corporation * Spaceship Command Lv5 * Industrial Rank Lv5 * Battleship Rank Lv5 * Leadership Level 5 * Corporation management Lv5 * Anchoring Lv5 * Mechanic Lv5 * Repair Systems Lv3
Cost: 30 Billion ISK each, purchasable through certain Faction stations only.
Due to the unique requirements this wont be a class of ship people will be spamming you to buy on Market Channel. Very expansive and only flyable by CEO's with the appropriate skills.
Its too cheap and the skill requirements are also too easily gained. If this would be introduced I think within a month alot of CEO's can fly it, and then theyre would be no fun in it.
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Thrak
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Posted - 2003.12.10 11:23:00 -
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No, not Unicron!
It's a nice idea. I would rather see mobile refineries and different (seperate) anchorable structures tho lke CCP plan.
anyways if it were to work like this:
The anchoring/unachoring time would need to be like 10 minutes or something - because otherwise since no ship can use the facility when the ceo is offline there is very little point logging off with the mothership anchored and vulnerable.
Skills seem a bit extreme as well. It's like a month to get to battleship lvl 5, nm the rest.
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Lianhaun
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Posted - 2003.12.10 11:24:00 -
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I really think that most CEO's have alot of those skills maxed out allready.
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Hardin
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Posted - 2003.12.10 11:29:00 -
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I think this is just a dirteh trick to get CEO's to leave stations and be podded
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Gan Ning
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Posted - 2003.12.10 11:40:00 -
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LOL I said 'deploy' not transform!
Anyway Soundwave pwned.
Laserbeak...EJEEECT! |
Miso
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Posted - 2003.12.10 11:43:00 -
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Galvatron to Rodimus Prime:
"I shall crush you with my bare hands!!" -------------------------------------------- Dead
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Slinky Redfoot
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Posted - 2003.12.10 11:49:00 -
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Edited by: Slinky Redfoot on 10/12/2003 11:49:49 Guzzle is cleary the best Transformer, as he was THE COOLEST TOY EVER. Sparks flew outtha his ass if you rolled him around.
Soundwave was overrated.I lost laserbeak the same weekend i bought it.
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Lianhaun
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Posted - 2003.12.10 11:51:00 -
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Edited by: Lianhaun on 10/12/2003 11:51:24 i'm afraid i will see transformers being clearly present in certain rooms this weekend, instead of being hidden in closets.
men & robots with weird sound effects
something about not growing up
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Discorporation
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Posted - 2003.12.10 11:54:00 -
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Edited by: Discorporation on 10/12/2003 11:54:31 "Duly noted. And ignored!"
hahaha, that one still make sme laugh!
[Heterocephalus glaber]
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Miso
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Posted - 2003.12.10 11:55:00 -
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My moa is called Grimlok... -------------------------------------------- Dead
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svetlana
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Posted - 2003.12.10 11:56:00 -
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i like the idea, but i think you should create an incentive to have the mothership anchored when the ceo is logged off. if not, then nobody would ever log off anchored, since the ms would be vulnerable and unusable anyway.
how about allow use of the ms facilities by corp ships when the ceo is logged off. and allow for sentrys to be deployed and anchored/active while he ceo is offline.
corpmates could be assigned to protect the ms at different shifts which gives a new layer of complexity to running a big corp.
the more player owned objectives anchored out in 0.0 the better imho to encourage players to develop interesting strategy and tactics during war.
i think the requirements to fly it are high enough, but even if you think it is too easy for a player to get, consider that each corp could only have ONE; only the ceo could drive it, that's it. so add up the number of large corps who could afford it (and afford to replace it once lost) and that is still a pretty small number.
if only same-corp ships are allowed to dock with it, then that will keep the number of ms in eve very low- eg. it would be useless to make a bunch of alt mothership-pilots, since nobody else would be able to dock with it anyways.
as far as weapons- i think an ms should be allowed to mount at least a few small cannons. give it the same weapon mounts and cpu/pow as a lev3 frigate. that way it will be restricted to a couple puny peashooters or small sb in case a bunch of enemy-frigates swarm around it. it would look cool for a ship that massive to have a few close-in defensive guns firing (picture a stardestroyer or battlestar trying to defend itself against small fighters). 1 per corp. only same-corp ships can dock with it== cool.
-svet
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Slithereen2
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Posted - 2003.12.10 12:01:00 -
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I like to have a mothership yeah,
I like to have a Hiigaran Mothership and I will be like Karan Sjet tied up with tubes in her head acting as the Fleet Commander.
Then I build fleets of Resourcers, eating the roid belts, feeding my Mobil Refineries, then soon I can build fleets of Interceptors, then Corvettes, then Frigates (eat my Ion Beams) then Destroyers, Carriers, Shipyards and finally the most dreaded ship of all, the Hiigaran Battlecruiser.
By the way what game is this?
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Sybylle
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Posted - 2003.12.10 12:09:00 -
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No slots is fair, but in this case I suggest to add a "deployable bay" where the mothership stores its sentry guns, so when it is deployed in a station, it can deploy all it guns to protect itself.
I think this would enrich considerably the game. BUT, for now we still don't have a clear idea of what titans will be. Knowing CCP, I think titan will be able to be used like station AND/OR be used like logistic support during battles.
Remember that CCP policy is not having specialized ships, so any ship can be used for (almost) any kind of profession.
Look this screenshot (don't remember where I found it)Titan miner
Clearly a Titan has slots, so it can fight. Anyway, due to its cargo and power, I assume specific industry module have to be implemented in order to use it as a mobile station. (\_/) (O.o) (> <)=Oveur (proof) "Jumping 50 systems I can like, have sex 150 times during that period" |
Hackett
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Posted - 2003.12.10 12:18:00 -
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My Megat(h)ron is powered by Energon cubes
And by Atomic Death Elephants..
Damn, mentioned them again
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nails
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Posted - 2003.12.10 12:21:00 -
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Transformers Victory and Zeta rocked, my favorite seasons. ------------------
http://ota-corps.otaku.jp -- Anime l33t level
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vyperpit
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Posted - 2003.12.10 12:21:00 -
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i'm sorry its sounds a nice idea i will give you that but as somthing that should be in game my anwser is no.
or at least not yet. if and once titans and stations and all the player owned stuff comes in then yes i would see this as a viable idea.
but until then i think it should go on the back burner and that you should focus that mind and body of yours to making other things happen ----
Fair Fighting Quote stolen from Waagaa Ktlehr who borrowed it from ??? "If you end up in a fair fight, you planned it wrong." (Ehm yeah, or CCP ****ed with the scanner again..) |
Gan Ning
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Posted - 2003.12.10 12:30:00 -
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I had the optimus prime toy, complete with truck carriage. In the cartoon I always wondered where the carriage part went when he transformed?
I had Mirage and a few other car ones but I broke their legs somehow.
Anyway stop this transformers hikacking of my thread and stick to the topic before it get locked!
BTW: I loved that bit in the transformers movie when Megatron gets remade as Galvatron. And Starscream starts talking his usual smack when thye meet up and Galvy smokes him most ebilly. |
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John McCreedy
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Posted - 2003.12.10 12:50:00 -
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As CEO of my corp I tell you now there is no way I'm flying around in something that costs 30 bil, does 100 m/s and can get blown up when I log!
Make a difference
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DigitalCommunist
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Posted - 2003.12.10 12:54:00 -
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Turbo was a cool transformer _____________________________________ Perpetually driven, your end is our beginning. "Can I be a consultant for EVE II?" - WhiteDwarf |
Temerlyn
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Posted - 2003.12.10 12:56:00 -
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Ravage Eject
Operation
Elimination...
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Gan Ning
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Posted - 2003.12.10 13:29:00 -
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Quote: Turbo was a cool transformer
Never heard of him.
I hope you are not referring to the extra ghey Transformers Armada or any non-80's versions which have since been created.
Any Transformers after the original 1st and maybe 2nd generations are lame.
Just a quick question to get things back on topic, seeing as player stations wont suit pirates and mercenaries lifestyles, are not motherships the answer for them?
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Lianhaun
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Posted - 2003.12.10 13:32:00 -
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I think most piracy corporation lack the trust to hand over their CEO money for a 'mothership'
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Negotiator
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Posted - 2003.12.10 13:32:00 -
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why would pirates need motherships? 0_o
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Lianhaun
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Posted - 2003.12.10 13:34:00 -
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player owned stations, and there is always the possibility that stations in 0.0 wont accept people with negative status for the faction in that area
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Gan Ning
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Posted - 2003.12.10 13:35:00 -
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Quote: why would pirates need motherships? 0_o
As a platform for long-ish term conflicts far away from where they are usually based. |
Erim Kaluk
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Posted - 2003.12.10 13:53:00 -
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I'd like to see Carrier class ships myself. Something that can carry 10 frigates into battle. Just for the sake of seeing them all undock :P
I guess the Caldari Titan would fix this but I don't think they're going to be availabe to us
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Psy Corp
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Posted - 2003.12.10 14:03:00 -
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Quote: I'd like to see Carrier class ships myself. Something that can carry 10 frigates into battle. Just for the sake of seeing them all undock :P
I guess the Caldari Titan would fix this but I don't think they're going to be availabe to us
if you mine in like 3 years and save al the minerals and ask ccp nicely then you may get one
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