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Cara Forelli
Meticulously Indifferent
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Posted - 2016.02.23 00:04:16 -
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Tiffany Hope wrote:I'm no good at fibbing And I'm a seahorse.
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Titan's Lament
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Tiffany Hope
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
17
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Posted - 2016.02.23 00:19:38 -
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Cara Forelli wrote:Tiffany Hope wrote:I'm no good at fibbing And I'm a seahorse. oh, I see. This doesn't get easier does it. :(
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Memphis Baas
1169
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Posted - 2016.02.23 02:17:50 -
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Tiffany Hope wrote:What do you mean in a social experiment? Tiffany Hope wrote:A friend of mine basically made me try it after she reminded me I promised I would. There is a running joke that I am not good with social situations. Someone had the bright idea of making me try an online video game because I am also not technical. My guess is this is the hardest game they could think of with the most social stuff involved? It's the premise of this thread, no?
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Tiffany Hope
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
17
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Posted - 2016.02.23 02:46:24 -
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Memphis Baas wrote:Tiffany Hope wrote:What do you mean in a social experiment? Tiffany Hope wrote:A friend of mine basically made me try it after she reminded me I promised I would. There is a running joke that I am not good with social situations. Someone had the bright idea of making me try an online video game because I am also not technical. My guess is this is the hardest game they could think of with the most social stuff involved? It's the premise of this thread, no? No. That is just how I came to join this video game. It was their attempt to make me socialize in any manner they could achieve.
Since starting I have learnt heaps thanks mostly, well entirely really, to the people in this thread and have bought a subscription thing to keep playing it.
That basis of this thread was initially to put myself out of my comfort zone I guess which worked, but now it is more to get myself "out there" which I was kind of hoping I had now achieved.
But there are those few people that seem to be hostile or something even though I've never done anything to them. I learnt about the trolls but there are now a small number of people that can vouch for me so I don't let it get to me.
It's my first video game, I don't know much, I'm trying to learn and trying to be social.
That's all. |
ergherhdfgh
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
1184
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Posted - 2016.02.23 03:21:25 -
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Tiffany Hope wrote:[ No. That is just how I came to join this video game. It was their attempt to make me socialize in any manner they could achieve.
It sure sound like an experiment with being social
Tiffany Hope wrote:[ It's my first video game, I don't know much, I'm trying to learn and trying to be social.
That's all. Experimentation is not only one of the best ways to learn it is really the only way that you can come to know something i.e. through experience.
Social experimentation and social engineering have gotten bad names by being used for manipulative and selfish reasons. But like everything social experimentation is just a tool and as such can be used for good or bad.
You can experiment with being social and grow as a person maybe even make some friends. I doubt most people would call that manipulative or bad.
You can also preform social experimentation to learn how to better manipulate people for maximum benefit for the self with complete disregard for the costs to others. Something that I think most people would likely consider bad. I tend to lump anyone involved in sales or marketing in that category and I'll admit not always rightly so.
Anyway my main point is don't be afraid to call something what it is just because typically that thing is abused. Everything has positive and negative aspects. |
Tiffany Hope
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
17
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Posted - 2016.02.23 03:26:44 -
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ergherhdfgh wrote:Tiffany Hope wrote:[ No. That is just how I came to join this video game. It was their attempt to make me socialize in any manner they could achieve.
It sure sound like an experiment with being social Tiffany Hope wrote:[ It's my first video game, I don't know much, I'm trying to learn and trying to be social.
That's all. Experimentation is not only one of the best ways to learn it is really the only way that you can come to know something i.e. through experience. Social experimentation and social engineering have gotten bad names by being used for manipulative and selfish reasons. But like everything social experimentation is just a tool and as such can be used for good or bad. You can experiment with being social and grow as a person maybe even make some friends. I doubt most people would call that manipulative or bad. You can also preform social experimentation to learn how to better manipulate people for maximum benefit for the self with complete disregard for the costs to others. Something that I think most people would likely consider bad. I tend to lump anyone involved in sales or marketing in that category and I'll admit not always rightly so. Anyway my main point is don't be afraid to call something what it is just because typically that thing is abused. Everything has positive and negative aspects. I just meant that for me it wasn't an experiment. It was just me trying to not be a hermit and shy all my life. that's all :( |
Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
14283
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Posted - 2016.02.23 03:27:44 -
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Please Don't mistake my attitude for hostility, I'm very amused by this thread, I'm impressed with how you have handled us so far if i take you at face value and I'm certain you will go far here if you can put up with the general eve public If im right in my initial assesment though my hats off to you and im certain loyd sees it too.
Better the Devil you know.
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Tiffany Hope
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
17
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Posted - 2016.02.23 03:48:15 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Please Don't mistake my attitude for hostility, I'm very amused by this thread, I'm impressed with how you have handled us so far if i take you at face value and I'm certain you will go far here if you can put up with the general eve public If im right in my initial assesment though my hats off to you and im certain loyd sees it too. I've learnt that no matter what you post in this thread, I don't think I will ever understand what you mean :(
Who is loyd? Why is your hat off to me?
While I have everyone as well. Someone sent me money in the game with a note that said "trololol" Why?
And what is FC? I keep reading it in other news pages |
Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
14284
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Posted - 2016.02.23 03:56:08 -
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FC = Fleet Commander
Better the Devil you know.
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ergherhdfgh
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
1184
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Posted - 2016.02.23 03:57:05 -
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Tiffany Hope wrote: I just meant that for me it wasn't an experiment. It was just me trying to not be a hermit and shy all my life. that's all :(
If you were a baseball player and wanted to become a better batter you would experiment with different variations on your swing.
Experimentation is simply coming up with an idea of how you think something will turn out and then trying it out and see how far off the end result is from where you initially thought it would take you. Really pure experimentation is just trying something to see what happens.
Experimentation is truly a wonderful and powerful thing. You should not be afraid of experimentation. It is how we learn nearly everything in this life. Even as very young children we experiment with all kinds of things. This is how we learn and grow.
If you shy away from experimentation you will be stifling yourself and your ability to learn and grow. One of the best ways to learn in this game is experimentation and I am constantly telling newbros to experiment with different ships and different fits to get to know this game.
As a matter of fact just today if you browse other threads here you'll find places where newbros ask for answers to questions and instead of giving them a direct answer ( often because they are looking for an objective answer to a subjective question but I digress ) I will show them how they can come to know the answer experiential through experimentation. |
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Memphis Baas
1171
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Posted - 2016.02.23 04:00:46 -
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Tiffany Hope wrote:But everyone keeps saying people stab you in the back or lie and cheat and steel and if possible I would like to minimise my chances of having that happen to me.
Actually, they're mostly afraid of you (well, of newbies in general), because a newbie is an unknown person who COULD steal the corp assets, which can be significant. Your hangar is secure, and you don't really have anything worth stealing (I'm assuming you don't have billions already - maybe you do, if you've sold a PLEX), but a corp may have ships in an exposed hangar and money in an exposed wallet, free for the taking, because the corp hangars are meant for sharing not for keeping things locked up.
We like newbies because we like the game and we like when newcomers are interested in it, so the most likely scenario when you join a corp is that you'll be welcomed. At worst, they'll be indifferent or be jerks, and you can just leave and put them on /ignore.
Ultimately, it's like in RL; join, see what happens, move on to another corp, if you don't like. With the added perks that you have internet anonymity, harassment is against the rules, and it's just a game - at most you'll lose the pixels of a ship in an attack, no big deal. |
Tiffany Hope
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
18
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Posted - 2016.02.23 04:01:16 -
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I really need to invest in a dictionary... |
ergherhdfgh
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
1184
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Posted - 2016.02.23 04:09:30 -
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Tiffany Hope wrote:I really need to invest in a dictionary... you can google any word followed the the word "definition" and a basic definition as well as several links to online dictionaries will come up. However I would much rather have an actual dictionary around. I love dictionaries.
Often with abbreviations in this game you and do better by asking google what it means. Example: https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=what+does+wtf+mean
Honestly in certain colloquial situations urban dictionary can be very helpful. |
Memphis Baas
1171
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Posted - 2016.02.23 04:16:33 -
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Tiffany Hope wrote:Who is loyd? Why is your hat off to me? While I have everyone as well. Someone sent me money in the game with a note that said "trololol" Why?
You've got most of the regular posters in the Newbie forum replying in this thread; Paranoid Loyd is another regular. "Hats off" is an expression that indicates respect, like a salute. You got money because people like you, or because you're a newbie. You'll also get bounties placed on your head, also because people like you or because you're a newbie. Trololol is a meme that caught on with the EVE crowd, which is often a weird community. EVE Devs being weird. And another one. |
Tiffany Hope
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
18
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Posted - 2016.02.23 04:16:55 -
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ergherhdfgh wrote:Tiffany Hope wrote:I really need to invest in a dictionary... you can google any word followed the the word "definition" and a basic definition as well as several links to online dictionaries will come up. However I would much rather have an actual dictionary around. I love dictionaries. Often with abbreviations in this game you and do better by asking google what it means. Example: https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=what+does+wtf+meanHonestly in certain colloquial situations urban dictionary can be very helpful.
Oh Gosh, that is so cool! |
Tiffany Hope
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
18
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Posted - 2016.02.23 04:29:27 -
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Memphis Baas wrote:Tiffany Hope wrote:Who is loyd? Why is your hat off to me? While I have everyone as well. Someone sent me money in the game with a note that said "trololol" Why? You've got most of the regular posters in the Newbie forum replying in this thread; Paranoid Loyd is another regular. "Hats off" is an expression that indicates respect, like a salute. You got money because people like you, or because you're a newbie. You'll also get bounties placed on your head, also because people like you or because you're a newbie. Trololol is a meme that caught on with the EVE crowd, which is often a weird community. EVE Devs being weird. And another one. Oh ok I thought someone was calling me a name lol. I tried to find who it was to give it back. I felt like someone had dropped their wallet and I had found it or something.
I thought you got a bounty on you if people wanted to have you blown up, but I hope I havnt done anything that makes people want me blown up :( |
Memphis Baas
1171
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Posted - 2016.02.23 04:35:25 -
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Well, you should. EVE is a PVP game, rather boring unless spaceships explode. Other people's spaceships, hopefully.
In most cases, though, they just see what ship you're flying and make a quick decision whether you're an easy target or they should run away from you. Combat is pretty fast, not much time to check who's who, and/or personalities. |
ergherhdfgh
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
1185
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Posted - 2016.02.23 10:35:48 -
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Tiffany Hope wrote:, but I hope I havnt done anything that makes people want me blown up :( Have you Ever logged into the game "Eve online"? If the answer is yes then you've done something that makes people want to blow you up. |
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
25955
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Posted - 2016.02.23 12:57:01 -
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Tiffany Hope wrote:I thought you got a bounty on you if people wanted to have you blown up, but I hope I havnt done anything that makes people want me blown up :( Don't worry about bounties, pretty much everyone has one and if someone kills you they only receive 20% of your ships value; in your case you're still in frigates and destroyers, their ammo costs more than the bounty payment.
Civilized behaviour is knowing that violence is barbaric, but paying other people to do it is business.
Nil mortifi sine lucre.
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Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
1097
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Posted - 2016.02.23 20:15:31 -
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Tiffany Hope wrote:but I hope I havnt done anything that makes people want me blown up :( Don't worry. EVE players don't need a reason to blow up (your ) stuff.
https://soundcloud.com/sindel-pellion/evedumbwaystodie
Remove insurance.
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Pandora Carrollon
Kingsman Tailors
39
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Posted - 2016.02.23 20:32:41 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Don't worry about bounties, pretty much everyone has one and if someone kills you they only receive 20% of your ships value; in your case you're still in frigates and destroyers, their ammo costs more than the bounty payment.
Tiffany:
We newbies have SOOOO much more to worry about than bounties, or getting killed in some system. Some advice here from a fellow newcomer:
STAY in the rookie areas of HiSec until you feel like you are ready to spread your wings. Usually, you have that first "There is more to this game and I want to go try it" moment. That feeling is when you think you have some things wired and you might think that you might be a little bored. It means you are comfortable in your current surroundings, that's a bad feeling! I'll explain why in a moment.
Once you go to move around, grab your rookie ship if you've moved out of it to something snazzier, and go toodle about space. Go find Jita or some other local major trade hub. If your "Set Destination" is set up correctly, you'll never travel though LowSec and most folks leave the Rookie Ships alone... for the most part. Even if you get jumped and killed, the worst that happens is you lost a free ship and ended magically back in your Home Station. Learn from it and get back on the horse and go back out... in a new free Rookie ship! Talk to people, find corporation buddies, realize that danger lurks around every corner (like a bad horror movie!) and even if you get killed, poof!, you're back at home with a new free ship. Nothing lost.
Why am I advising you to go out and possibly get killed? Because once it's happened to you a time or two you realize that death is a minor set back. By the time it becomes a 'major' one, you are making so much ISK that... yup... it's just a minor one again!
Eventually, once in a corporation with lots of friends, getting all cozy and comfortable again, even with being killed, THEN you need to shift it up because it's at that point that you get complacent, and bored. Never get bored. EVE has about a billion things to do in it and much of it all starts with "What if..." I think those are the two most glorious and dangerous words in EVE... what if...
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Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs
5762
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Posted - 2016.02.23 20:48:36 -
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The video is better.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2fyO4uKkxo |
Tiffany Hope
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
18
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Posted - 2016.02.23 21:17:19 -
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oh my gosh I laughed so much at this. |
Tiffany Hope
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
18
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Posted - 2016.02.23 21:38:04 -
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Yeah the high sec areas (I hope of got this right) are boring now and I hate doing it all by myself lol. I've gone out and lost 2 ships, I've mined like 30 million dollars worth of stuff and sold it all, I've done heaps of skill training so I can do bigger ships and stuff.
I want to have some fun now so I need to find a group or something I think. |
Iria Ahrens
Space Perverts and Forum Pirates
763
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Posted - 2016.02.23 22:45:46 -
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Pandora Carrollon wrote:
Why am I advising you to go out and possibly get killed? Because once it's happened to you a time or two you realize that death is a minor set back. By the time it becomes a 'major' one, you are making so much ISK that... yup... it's just a minor one again!
Eventually, once in a corporation with lots of friends, getting all cozy and comfortable again, even with being killed, THEN you need to shift it up because it's at that point that you get complacent, and bored. Never get bored. EVE has about a billion things to do in it and much of it all starts with "What if..." I think those are the two most glorious and dangerous words in EVE... what if...
Getting killed a few times is one of the best things you can do to improve your enjoyment of the game. I recommend it strongly. Get in a rookie ship and fly into nullsec, and see how many systems you can do. Don't stop trying until you do at least 50 systems in a row.
My choice of pronouns is based on your avatar. Even if I know what is behind the avatar.
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Iria Ahrens
Space Perverts and Forum Pirates
763
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Posted - 2016.02.23 22:47:29 -
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Tiffany Hope wrote:Yeah the high sec areas (I hope of got this right) are boring now and I hate doing it all by myself lol. I've gone out and lost 2 ships, I've mined like 30 million dollars worth of stuff and sold it all, I've done heaps of skill training so I can do bigger ships and stuff.
I want to have some fun now so I need to find a group or something I think.
Even mining is fun in a group. If mining is your thing, I suggest looking for a mining corp in LS or null. Mining is so much more fun when you are looking over your shoulder the whole time.
My choice of pronouns is based on your avatar. Even if I know what is behind the avatar.
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Tiffany Hope
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
18
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Posted - 2016.02.23 22:52:54 -
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Iria Ahrens wrote:Pandora Carrollon wrote:
Why am I advising you to go out and possibly get killed? Because once it's happened to you a time or two you realize that death is a minor set back. By the time it becomes a 'major' one, you are making so much ISK that... yup... it's just a minor one again!
Eventually, once in a corporation with lots of friends, getting all cozy and comfortable again, even with being killed, THEN you need to shift it up because it's at that point that you get complacent, and bored. Never get bored. EVE has about a billion things to do in it and much of it all starts with "What if..." I think those are the two most glorious and dangerous words in EVE... what if...
Getting killed a few times is one of the best things you can do to improve your enjoyment of the game. I recommend it strongly. Get in a rookie ship and fly into nullsec, and see how many systems you can do. Don't stop trying until you do at least 50 systems in a row. That's what I was doing! lol. I was trying to see how far I could go. I was looking for this place called fountain that I read about. I got there, then I got killed lol. But I mined a little bit too just to be cheeky :) |
Tiffany Hope
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
18
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Posted - 2016.02.23 23:31:06 -
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I want to make a corporation and then an alliance :) I have big dreams lol.
First I need to make some friends that I know I can trust and will stick with me I guess from what I've been told so off I go lol, to make friends :) |
J'Poll
Perkone Caldari State
6350
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Posted - 2016.02.23 23:38:10 -
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Tiffany Hope wrote:Memphis Baas wrote:Tiffany Hope wrote:What do you mean in a social experiment? Tiffany Hope wrote:A friend of mine basically made me try it after she reminded me I promised I would. There is a running joke that I am not good with social situations. Someone had the bright idea of making me try an online video game because I am also not technical. My guess is this is the hardest game they could think of with the most social stuff involved? It's the premise of this thread, no? No. That is just how I came to join this video game. It was their attempt to make me socialize in any manner they could achieve. .
And you came to EVE
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Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs
5764
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Posted - 2016.02.23 23:41:43 -
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Iria Ahrens wrote:Getting killed a few times is one of the best things you can do to improve your enjoyment of the game. I recommend it strongly. Get in a rookie ship and fly into nullsec, and see how many systems you can do. Don't stop trying until you do at least 50 systems in a row. My record is about 42 before I made a mistake.
Last time I had my ship destroyed, I thought, "Hmm ... that's a clever strategy. I should do that too!"
[Playing "Blockade Runner Roulette", by one-volleying them with a Tornado.]
I then docked and bought another Blockade Runner (still have it). |
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