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Maud Dib
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Posted - 2003.12.10 18:51:00 -
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It's pretty clear now that getting and producing Tech 2 is going to take the efforts of large corps. Now I'm not saying it shouldn't but it does put those people who don't want to join a big corp in a strange situation. You could do sub-contracting work for a big corp. You can try and aquire the BP's to sell to the big corps but all that gets you is more isk and for the most part people able to get them probably only want them from the game play aspect. It's starting to make me think the only thing small corps can do and be any good at it will be to pirate. I'm not saying pirating is easy but 3-4 guys can do a lot of damage working well together. Look at the Jokers for example. What I am wondering is how many small corps will be willing to pirate if what I think is going to happen does.
Of course I could be totally wrong.
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Cormyat Astara
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Posted - 2003.12.10 18:57:00 -
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OMG! YOU ARE GOING PIRATE NOW????? OMG!!
Oh, that isn't what you said, is it.
There's only so much room for pirates in the game before they start interfering with each other. Then, I think the "small" pirate corps would probably get run over by the bigger ones.
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Discorporation
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Posted - 2003.12.10 19:07:00 -
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Small corps will need to specialise.
That's it.
[Heterocephalus glaber]
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Mon Palae
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Posted - 2003.12.10 19:22:00 -
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Frankly big corps should be able to get the better stuff. How many stealth bombers do you see Botswana putting in the field? How many ICBMs do you think Madagascar has stashed away? Big, expensive systems take a big country/corp to achieve. Understand I say this being a member of a maybe mid-sized corp with only enough really active members to in practice equal a small corp and I still think it is as it should be.
You can form alliances with larger corps to get the things you want. You can lend aid in any number of ways that many other corps would be glad to have. Or ally with several smaller corps and between you make an effectively big corp. There are lots of way you can achieve the things you seek. Be creative.
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Maud Dib
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Posted - 2003.12.10 19:57:00 -
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Quote: Frankly big corps should be able to get the better stuff. How many stealth bombers do you see Botswana putting in the field? How many ICBMs do you think Madagascar has stashed away? Big, expensive systems take a big country/corp to achieve. Understand I say this being a member of a maybe mid-sized corp with only enough really active members to in practice equal a small corp and I still think it is as it should be.
You can form alliances with larger corps to get the things you want. You can lend aid in any number of ways that many other corps would be glad to have. Or ally with several smaller corps and between you make an effectively big corp. There are lots of way you can achieve the things you seek. Be creative.
I'm not saying it shouldn't be that way but I am saying a lot of small corps may start creatively blowing the crap out of big corp members to get stuff.
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Rohann
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Posted - 2003.12.10 20:05:00 -
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Merge
Nuff said
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Mon Palae
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Posted - 2003.12.10 20:13:00 -
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Quote: I'm not saying it shouldn't be that way but I am saying a lot of small corps may start creatively blowing the crap out of big corp members to get stuff.
Excellent! Seriously...no reason this isn't a viable option although for comparison it might be like Botswana attacking the United States which is a very risky prospect for Botswana. Still...if you think you can make that work then knock yourself out! Sounds like great fun!
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Ooke
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Posted - 2003.12.10 21:27:00 -
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specialisation IS the answer.
pool whatever research points you get and only bid on the kinds of bp's you think you need.
you can also do many more bids for items that are less in demand and hopefully get more of them...
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Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2003.12.10 23:34:00 -
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Edited by: Rod Blaine on 10/12/2003 23:35:46
With the big corps concentrating on aquiring BP's, you can subcontract to provide the resources they cannot mine at the same time.
Be on the lookout for a system we might be putting in place soon for this, and other intercorp win-win relationships.
And indeed, specialisation IS the answer for all of us. It'll be what makes Eve live.
Rod Blaine Recruitment Manager Colossus Technologies _______________________________________________
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Lola
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Posted - 2003.12.11 00:05:00 -
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Here's my thoughts on the matter:
Doing agent missions is still a solo activity.
Running NPC trade goods is still a solo activity.
NPC pirate farming is still a solo activity.
Empire space mining can easily be done solo but works better with 2 or more people. The more the better.
0.0 space mining for the rare ore can be done solo but is better with a group. The more the better.
Manufacturing and researching only needs one character to work. Big buy orders at a station can work just as well as having corp members supplying stuff.
PvP/Piracy can be done solo but the more the better.
It seems to me nothing really has to change with TL2. I can't even really see why you think piracy would be the most attractive thing for a small group to want to do.
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Maud Dib
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Posted - 2003.12.11 00:49:00 -
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Quote: Here's my thoughts on the matter:
Doing agent missions is still a solo activity.
Running NPC trade goods is still a solo activity.
NPC pirate farming is still a solo activity.
Empire space mining can easily be done solo but works better with 2 or more people. The more the better.
0.0 space mining for the rare ore can be done solo but is better with a group. The more the better.
Manufacturing and researching only needs one character to work. Big buy orders at a station can work just as well as having corp members supplying stuff.
PvP/Piracy can be done solo but the more the better.
It seems to me nothing really has to change with TL2. I can't even really see why you think piracy would be the most attractive thing for a small group to want to do.
Ok maybe I misunderstood but I thought they said in the dev chat that small corps won't be able to do tech 2 on their own. Which basically means becoming a cog for some big corp. Now thats as bad as being in a big corp but without the bonuses. My feeling is that if some small corps see that shaking out they will decide that piracy is the one thing a small corp can do really well. Plus they will get tech two drops and hit and run tactics are the one place big corps are vunerable.
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Mon Palae
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Posted - 2003.12.11 16:31:00 -
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Quote: Ok maybe I misunderstood but I thought they said in the dev chat that small corps won't be able to do tech 2 on their own. Which basically means becoming a cog for some big corp. Now thats as bad as being in a big corp but without the bonuses. My feeling is that if some small corps see that shaking out they will decide that piracy is the one thing a small corp can do really well. Plus they will get tech two drops and hit and run tactics are the one place big corps are vunerable.
So what? This is a good thing. Some small corps will turn to piracy, some will become that "cog" for a larger corp (I don't see why this is a bad thing), some will merge, some will pool resources with other small corps to make an effectively big corp (albeit probably not as efficient which is as it should be), some will just continue as usual and take care of the Tech-I market which will remain for a long time and some will wash out.
All seems fine to me.
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