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Teium Purvanen
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2016.02.20 22:46:37 -
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Hey all,
Just started Eve Online today, played a few hours this morning, got a headache and took a nap lol. It's defo a complex game.
When I was researching the game I decided early on that I wanted to be an explorer of sorts. I like sciencey stuff and being a adventurous. So I bought the starter explorer pack and went for it. Busy doing the starter missions for explorers and really enjoying it :)
I had a look at the ships before I started playing and really liked the look of the Manticore (I think that's what it's called). Can this one be used by an explorer?
I'm not trying to be the best at it or make the most money. I want to explorer the Eve galaxy and defend myself when the time comes. I didn't get any guns from the explorer pack so hoping I will actually be able to defend myself when I go into risky places lol.
Any advice on how to be an explorer would be very very welcome. Also would like any pointers on how to find a nice UK based corp.
Not really sure what else to put. Just wanted to introduce myself really :)
Thanks Teium |
SurrenderMonkey
Space Llama Industries
2033
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Posted - 2016.02.20 22:58:32 -
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Teium Purvanen wrote: I had a look at the ships before I started playing and really liked the look of the Manticore (I think that's what it's called). Can this one be used by an explorer?
You can explore in just about any ship - just slap a core probe launcher on and away you go.
That said, every ship in Eve has certain bonuses which make it better suited to certain tasks.
The manticore is actually a stealth bomber: It can fit battlship-sized torpedo launchers, a bomb launcher, and a covert ops cloak that allows it to warp around unseen.
While the cloak would be useful for exploration, it doesn't have a bonus to scanner probe strength or hacking modules, so it's far from ideal.
A covert ops ship, such as the Buzzard, would be a better choice. There are also some other good options, such as the Astero, Stratios, or strategic cruisers in certain configurations.
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Cara Forelli
Meticulously Indifferent
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Posted - 2016.02.20 22:59:34 -
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Hi Tiffany, welcome to EVE.
Manticores are nice but you'll probably want to look at the Buzzard for standard exploration. Start with a Heron and go from there.
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gfldex
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Posted - 2016.02.20 23:31:29 -
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Teium Purvanen wrote: Also would like any pointers on how to find a nice UK based corp.
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Teium Purvanen
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2016.02.21 00:16:05 -
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Cara Forelli wrote:Hi Tiffany, welcome to EVE.
Manticores are nice but you'll probably want to look at the Buzzard for standard exploration. Start with a Heron and go from there.
I've got the Heron at the moment from the explorer starter pack :)
Only problem is i'm a sucker for aesthetics and i really dislike the heron/buzzard on looks. love the way the manticore looks so was hoping it was a viable option, but it's sounding like it's not :( |
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors Snuffed Out
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Posted - 2016.02.21 00:59:37 -
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Teium Purvanen wrote:I want to explorer the Eve galaxy and defend myself when the time comes. I didn't get any guns from the explorer pack so hoping I will actually be able to defend myself when I go into risky places lol.
Any advice on how to be an explorer would be very very welcome.
Adopt this mentality when you are going about your business in EVE (note: this is an adaptation from a famous quote on EVE I can't find anymore):
You, a golden haired child, are released into a nature preserve full of rapacious pedophiles. Your skills and strength will develop in time. But right now all you have is a map and your cunning. Your objective is to survive and thrive. How you make this happen is up to you.
Godspeed.
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Neuntausend
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2016.02.21 02:29:08 -
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Teium Purvanen wrote:Cara Forelli wrote:Hi Tiffany, welcome to EVE.
Manticores are nice but you'll probably want to look at the Buzzard for standard exploration. Start with a Heron and go from there. I've got the Heron at the moment from the explorer starter pack :) Only problem is i'm a sucker for aesthetics and i really dislike the heron/buzzard on looks. love the way the manticore looks so was hoping it was a viable option, but it's sounding like it's not :(
Well, have a look at the Anathema, Probe or Helios then. The Probe will soon get a redesign as I hear. The Buzzard has more med slots than the Probe and the Anathema, though, and the most CPU among all the covert ops frigates, which allows it to fit a lot of sciency-hacky-stuff. The difference isn't a big one, though - all covert ops frigates work really well for exploration.
Another good one (and fairly pretty, I'd say) is the Astero. It's a fair bit more expensive, and doesn't nearly have the same CPU output. But it can launch a full flight of light drones and unlke the covert ops frigates packs quite a punch.
Beyond that, there are the Stratios and strategic cruisers (Legion, Loki, Proteus, Tengu). But it will take you a while to be able to fly and afford them. So plenty of time to figure out what they can and cannot do and what you can use them for. |
Memphis Baas
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Posted - 2016.02.21 03:34:30 -
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Magnate is the Tech 1 version of the Anathema.
Magnate, Astero are pretty, IMO.
Manticore is a covert bomber; designed to operate in packs, for surprise AoE attacks against tightly-grouped formations of ships. It won't have the probe strength bonuses; you can explore in it, but you'll have a harder time probing down things.
Exploration Guide. |
Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
2232
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Posted - 2016.02.21 07:04:17 -
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Welcome to EvE!
Most people I know in EvE are quite pragmatic and just look at the stats of a ship and choose what is suited best performance-wise for their skills and playstyles ... then complain all the time how ****** the ship looks. For exploration the 4 empire racial lines are equally good, just choose what you like most. However the IMO best looking ships in EvE come from the Sisters of Eve production line, Astero, Stratios, ... for a premium price. But forget about those until you learned to survive in hostile space and have the routine in making enough ISK to easily replace a 100m ISK ship, because in EvE you will lose your ship eventually. Loss is what keeps the player economy running.
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Arkoth 24
Phayder
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Posted - 2016.02.21 09:22:55 -
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Exploration in EvE is not 'bout romantic and wandering - it's, sad to say, is more 'bout money making: you're going into dangerous areas, gettin' your stuff, going back and sell it.
You'll need some ship with bonuses for exploration: Tech-1 Exploration Frigate, Astero, Tech-2 Covert Ops Frigate, Stratios, T3-Cruiser - that's your choice. Ships in EvE are mostly ugly (someone should say it already), so if you want a good look - it's possibly Astero, Stratios and T3c (still ugly, but not as others).
Your targets are Data and Relic signatures, GHOST sites and Sleeper Caches.
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J'Poll
Perkone Caldari State
6343
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Posted - 2016.02.21 09:29:32 -
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Cara Forelli wrote:Hi Tiffany, welcome to EVE.
Manticores are nice but you'll probably want to look at the Buzzard for standard exploration. Start with a Heron and go from there.
Who is this Tiffany you speak of
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Arkoth 24
Phayder
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Posted - 2016.02.21 10:03:50 -
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J'Poll wrote:Cara Forelli wrote:Hi Tiffany, welcome to EVE.
Manticores are nice but you'll probably want to look at the Buzzard for standard exploration. Start with a Heron and go from there. Who is this Tiffany you speak of He's addicted a bit. |
Teium Purvanen
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2016.02.21 11:11:21 -
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J'Poll wrote:Cara Forelli wrote:Hi Tiffany, welcome to EVE.
Manticores are nice but you'll probably want to look at the Buzzard for standard exploration. Start with a Heron and go from there. Who is this Tiffany you speak of
I didn't want to say anything lol.
Anyways, thank you for the pointers and advice......it is greatly appreciated. Cya you all out there......take it easy on me xD |
Helios Anduath
Signal Cartel EvE-Scout Enclave
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Posted - 2016.02.21 12:14:41 -
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Welcome to Eve - you are in for a ride :)
Exploration can be a fun career that can lead on to lots of other things (the corp I am in are peaceful explorers who run a service that helps other people get into a special wormhole system called Thera for example) and can be quite easy to get started in while you work out what you want to end up doing.
The manticore that you mention is a stealth bomber - more of a hunter than an explorer. In eve though, you can make different ships do the same job in a slightly different way. For example, some people use Interceptors (a ship that is normally used for tackling other ships) for exploration as they are fast and are immune to warp disruption bubbles that can stop you warping in Nullsec and wormholes. It may be a worse scanner but with good skills the speed and abilities can make up for it.
With regards to defence, if you are an explorer you generally don't want to get into a shooting match - your best chance of survival is to fly smart and be hard to catch. There are ships you can fly that can defend themselves and still be a decent explorer though so running away is not the only option.
The first bit of advice I can really give (that you have already started to do) is to find a corp that specialises in where you want to start or go for one of the big newbie-friendly corps. There are a lot of "do anything" corps out there, especially in Highsec, but you will find that they don't know the ins-and-outs of everything and are not a supportive environment.
You have said you are looking for a UK-based corp but I would suggest that you don't restrict yourself - some corps have a strong presence in multiple timezones and they can be just as good or better for activity as a timezone-specific corp. Also, one thing to point out is that exploration can be a solitary, nomadic career depending on how you do it.
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Teium Purvanen
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2016.02.21 13:16:17 -
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Helios Anduath wrote:Welcome to Eve - you are in for a ride :)
Also, one thing to point out is that exploration can be a solitary, nomadic career depending on how you do it.
I'm all for being in a guild/corp and helping others to the best of my ability, but when it comes to grinding and doing missions, I tend to be abit of a loner lol.
From what I have read, the Astero can some defensive drones. Is this correct?
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Arkoth 24
Phayder
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Posted - 2016.02.21 14:09:25 -
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Teium Purvanen wrote:From what I have read, the Astero can some defensive drones. Is this correct? Astero is the best bet for a new explorer due to it's low skill requirements and high combat capabilities. On the other side - it got lower scan abitilies than covert ops T2-frigates and high price on market. |
Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
2233
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Posted - 2016.02.21 14:11:13 -
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Teium Purvanen wrote:Helios Anduath wrote:Welcome to Eve - you are in for a ride :)
Also, one thing to point out is that exploration can be a solitary, nomadic career depending on how you do it.
I'm all for being in a guild/corp and helping others to the best of my ability, but when it comes to grinding and doing missions, I tend to be abit of a loner lol. From what I have read, the Astero can some defensive drones. Is this correct? Yes, for example you can put some EC-300 drones in the bay to have a small chance to get out when tackled. A very small chance, the only real defense in all exploration ships is to not get caught in the first place ...
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