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ISD Fractal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2016.02.23 15:04:04 -
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Moved to Player Features and Ideas Discussion.
ISD Fractal
Lieutenant
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Interstellar Services Department
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Threm
Heavy Rains Public-Enemy
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Posted - 2016.02.23 18:58:39 -
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Different things:
(1) There is too much ridiculous ganking in Highsec. Symptoms: Even nearly empty freighters and jump freighters are ganked for the lools. The level of cost effective ganking covers maybe 70%? of the current hauls.
Reasons: Ganking is too cheap and because this problem had no care for so long time, the funds of the gank alliances are full from the ganks so far.
Cure: Make ganking more expensive that it make sense for precious freighters who did not took care in splitting the haul. Drop it to 10% of the current hauls.
This can be done by faster concord, higher basis tank of the freighter, more fitting opportunities etc. But please do not think three low slots with ridicilous fitting capabilities were the solution!
(2) Jita is dominating the trade market. Symptoms: You can get everything there. There is no margin in trading local content between the trade hubs. One would think that Matarstuff is cheaper in Hek/Rens and other way around. The other tradehubs just have only a larger gap between buy and sell as an expression of the lower relevance as trade hub.
Reasons: But there isnt a real relevant region specific stuff Everyone ships his stuff to Jita.
Cure: Provide local content specific for a region or change participation of the main elements, such as minerals etc. It would encourage trading.
Make trading more difficult but shorter. There is no game content in jumping 25 jumps in Highsec. Let it be 10 Jumps but with a few lowsec inbetween. But as a network of routes not as a pipe like rancer, so that it makes camping not too easy. Give relevant more High to High wormholes with freighter capability to encourage scanning and rewarding efforts. Make trading between hubs more necessary and beneficial.
But tbh, that would be tremendous changes, so I doubt its feasible.
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Estella Osoka
Perkone Caldari State
1063
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Posted - 2016.02.23 19:41:32 -
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OPs idea sounds vaguely familiar to the "Let's make hisec empires separated by lowsec" idea. If that were to happen you would just see more people using Jump Freighters to move stuff. The cost for a Freighter would drop, and you would see less freighter ganks. Jump fuel would increase. Cost for all items would go up because of risk. Hisec dwellers would just have specific mission ships in each of the empires and use Jump Clones to move around, same for incursion runners.
As for market hubs, Market Hubs are a player created dynamic. CCP didn't make Jita a main trade hub, the player-base did. You would have to make it profitable for other trade hubs to become a thing. |
Hopelesshobo
Tactical Nuclear Penguin's
572
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Posted - 2016.02.23 21:17:35 -
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So when did CCP state that it was their design intent to make Jita/Amarr/Dodixie/Rens/Hek the main trade hubs? Have you ever thought that this would simply cause the Amarr trade hub to move so it wouldn't take 45 jumps to trade?
Lowering the average to make you look better since 2012.
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Iria Ahrens
Space Perverts and Forum Pirates
763
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Posted - 2016.02.23 22:37:05 -
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Hopelesshobo wrote:So when did CCP state that it was their design intent to make Jita/Amarr/Dodixie/Rens/Hek the main trade hubs? Have you ever thought that this would simply cause the Amarr trade hub to move so it wouldn't take 45 jumps to trade?
This. CCP didn't make the hubs. They exist because of the players. CCP has actually tried to break up Jita a few times, especially back in the day when Jita crashed the servers routinely due to local traffic.
Making Jita harder won't change that. Players want a "Main" hub, and now Jita is that hub. Jita will remain that hub until the cluster expands and some other system becomes as convenient in the future as Jita is now. Thera maybe.
My choice of pronouns is based on your avatar. Even if I know what is behind the avatar.
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Uriam Khanid
New Machinarium Corporation
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Posted - 2016.02.24 05:46:11 -
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before you cut off Amarr from Jita CCP must upgrade Amarr space to a Caldari level. This include Khanid and Ammatar regions also. Today Amarr space mostly empty. |
Zappity
Black Aces I N F A M O U S
2707
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Posted - 2016.02.24 08:04:04 -
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Yulai used to be a trade hub. Then the gates were changed and now it isn't. There is nothing stopping this from happening again.
Making shipping between Jita and the other hubs more difficult would encourage local production and sales.
Zappity's Adventures for a taste of lowsec and nullsec.
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Lugh Crow-Slave
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Posted - 2016.02.24 08:39:20 -
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All this would do is kill the last real market outside of jita
Citadel worm hole tax
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Rivr Luzade
Kenshin. DARKNESS.
2340
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Posted - 2016.02.24 13:48:53 -
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Nivo Green wrote:Does Uedama cause two trade hubs which are extremely far apart to be practically right next to each other? I honestly don't have much experience with the system, but I have heard of some expensive kills there too. I understand how an idea to make Niarja lowsec might seem an aim to remove the juiciest ganking system in the game, but really there is always someone piloting thier 20bil isk freighter somewhere. Yes, it does. It makes the travel to 3 trade hubs significantly shorter than taking the long route via Niarja.
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