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Ros'Alin
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Posted - 2007.02.04 15:10:00 -
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Ok i know that this is only another post but be sure ill keep bumpin it everyday i try to run my lvl4 missions and i cant because of UBER MASSIVE LAG.
I run lvl4 Command missions with Tora agent, at Motsu, and all those systems like Saila, Motsu, Laah, and those close eachother are just impossible to play or have any fun, so if you are not going to fix that in a long term, you better lock this post and ban me from this forum otherwise ill keep posting and complaining that iam paying not to train skills only but to PLAY the game.
Some say 'hey if you dont want lag go 0.0 dude'. Well for those i feel sorry that their are such *&¿%$ people that takes whatever they give you.
I pay a caldari account to play in a caldari world. Theres nothing in my EVE Contract that says i cant do it so i want it and i want it now. If you dont like it, well... you can kiss my big white caldari azz.
PS.: If you feel the same, just bump this post. If u dont, well dont even bother replying it.
Rasta J0nes CALDARI HARDCORE PLAYER.
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RaSTa J0NeS
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Posted - 2007.02.04 17:51:00 -
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Oh wait a min youre 100% right!
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LordHamSandwich
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Posted - 2007.02.04 18:04:00 -
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Preach On Brother! (p.s) I would have responded sooner, had I not been forced to log in over and over and over on this bug infested website.
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nutbar
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2007.02.04 21:57:00 -
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Yup, as much as my carebear rear-end hates the lag, I don't get that much enjoyment out of PVP or other such things, and I prefer to do missions for my isk and loot-finding. It's how I play the game and I'd like to do it without horrible lag, and I'd also like to be able to play when *I* want to, not when there's nobody else online so that the lag is (no, not gone... hahha) more tolerable.
Motsu and any surrounding system within 3-4 jumps is absolutely trash. I lagged out in Komo one night just running THROUGH it worse than I did when I went through Jita only minutes later.
Oh, and don't bloody nerf more stuff saying it's a lag fix. We've seen you nerf everything but your wives in the name of "speed". How about you fix how the game works on the servers, instead of fixing a virtual world which you apparently seem to have lost control of.
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Frug
SYOID Fimbulwinter
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Posted - 2007.02.04 22:07:00 -
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Motsu is worse than Jita.
Good place to sell rig parts but I refuse to go near it or saila.
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SturmBringer
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.02.06 23:46:00 -
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+1 its getting beyond a joke , CCPs latest attempt at a fix has only spread the lag infection further , its now an Epidemic !!! Why pay for a game if you cant play it the way you want due to poor customer service ?
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RaSTa J0NeS
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Posted - 2007.02.07 18:10:00 -
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Edited by: RaSTa J0NeS on 07/02/2007 18:07:22 /bump
for those who cant mission in SAILA.
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Joseph Boscorelli
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Posted - 2007.02.07 21:56:00 -
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Bumping in the hope of a fix. Lost a Nighthawk and Raven since the last patch due to the awful lag. petitioned the Nighthawk and got it back. Lost interest with the Raven and stopped mission running....has it helped the rest of you? Thought not...what a mess
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Yarek Balear
The Initiative
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Posted - 2007.02.07 22:08:00 -
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Still think they should implement the idea I posted in the game development forum that got no response...
Change agents to all be of the same quality (start off poor), then their quality increases with the experience you develop with them (note that this shouldn't diminish if you cash in LPs).
Then there's no need for every Caldari agent mission runner to cram into 3 systems and it could reduce the lag as players could be spread out all over caldari space.
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Phoenixhawk
Caldari Farscape Mining Hitchhiker's Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.08 00:25:00 -
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kaunokka worse than jita for months and months, its not getting better, 2 jumps out is Oisio with a level 4 qual -10 (i think) 30 or so in system at any give point, lag's just as bad as kaunokka or Motsu which i left due to unplayablity, either the Hardware cant handle it, the coding cant handle it, a mix, or CCP just doesnt get a clue, Moving agents around has done nothing in the past, it just takes the lag from System X and puts it in System Y, More agents of the same qualitys need ADDED to the game. face it, if there is a better qual agent you can use for better rewards as a player your going to seek that agent out. if there was 20 Level 4 Qual 18/19/20 agents and 20 Level 3 Qual 18/19/20 agents added in caldari space, guess what, EVERY fracking mission runner would not be in the same 2 or 3 systems. nor would the servers and code have to handle hundreds of players in the same sytem doing missions at the same time. not to mention putting the LP Store into effect, so people that have 200k LP with a agent wouldnt have to cash out on some crappy implant offer, just to start all over again with the new agents. but ccp lets face it, point blank every move made to reduce lag has often taken away from the game, and done either nothing or next to nothing to improve the quality of the game. Drones yes Drones are the problem, lets take them away, the numbers get cut to half, afterwards no noticable increase in performance on the player end, Bookmarks its those danged bookmarks, warp to 0, over 50% of all BM's are deleted, pirates now have a heck of a time popping you after your on the other side of the gate, fast frigs are all but immune, and again no noticable preformance increase on the player end. but while your pulling things out, how about Removing all those annoying Spam cans, anchored all over the place, thier size makes them really unuseable for all except the lone nooblet mining, so they really serve no reason for being in the game, except spamming the heck out of every station/gate in empire.
/end rant Stay Chilly & Watch Your Six!
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Ben Murder
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Posted - 2007.02.08 02:10:00 -
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Saila sucks the life out of game play takes a couple hours to solo a lvl 4 mission.. Lag is so bad cant lock fire just wait and hope your not in your pod already..
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IHaveTenFingers
Caldari ADVANCED Combat and Engineering Combined Planetary Union
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Posted - 2007.02.08 02:14:00 -
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Somehow i dont mind the lag. Its nothing at all like the post-dragon lag or even the post-bloodlines lag. Ive seen several people say "im going to stop playing cuz of this s*#$", and i see them mission whoring the next week or month. Theres nothing thats going to stop us from playing and running our missions. not the most offesive and grotesque amounts of lag will prevent the average player from attempting mission after mission after mission. CCP knows this, and therefore they will do nothing about it. I have no problem with that. Did anyone ever consider for the slightest fraction of a second that the lag in this area is CCP's attempt to get players to broaden their horizons and do something new for a change? They are trying to force us out. Its really very simple... there are 2 options.
1. Endure the "lag". 2. Leave the area and find a new source of income.
Theres my take on the situation. CCP, dont fix the "lag", force out all the whiners and complainers, until there is a steady balance between population and lag in the area of concern. ------------------------------------
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Ros'Alin
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Posted - 2007.02.08 04:04:00 -
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Edited by: Ros''Alin on 08/02/2007 04:01:43
Originally by: IHaveTenFingers
CCP, dont fix the "lag", force out all the whiners and complainers, until there is a steady balance between population and lag in the area of concern.
Do you believe this guy? Btw, read the post. its only repplies for those who want to complain, not those who wanna kiss ass while sit in station with their market opened for hours.
if you want you chat free, goto mirc
EDIT: Yeah, this post is for us who grinded lvl4 combat missions and put our expensive battleships to have some serious PVE, not lil bunnies.
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SturmBringer
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.02.08 04:34:00 -
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I pay my subscription every month , that entitles me to do what i want when i want . If i want to run missions i will do so , when doing so i expect to do so without the issue of lag .
There are many fascets to this game , so all you arse kissers out there please leave this thread alone whilst us mission runners continue to grieve at the current state of gameplay in Caldari Space . Hopefully CCP will pull there heads in soon and alleviate our pain .
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fire 59
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.02.08 10:22:00 -
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The lag has improved immensely since the last few patche's to be fair, some place's do get heavier load's because they share the same node's but is to be expected. Have you optimised your client and done all the thing's to reduce lag/delay's etc? I can fly through empire and do whatever and the ONLY system that bother's my comp is jita, but that is because everyone decides to huddle in the same spot, cloggin up the system.
Instead of moaning how the game won't bend to yourd emand's, how about adapting a little (shock horror ) and moving to a better system/less people/new area/whatever. Or you could even join a 0.0 corp (onoes) and do the mission's there which are far better and have pretty much zero lag.
Bottom line is don't whine about the problem if your'e unwilling to help with the solution
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Galaon
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Posted - 2007.02.08 10:33:00 -
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I dosent make lvl 4, only lvl 2-3 mission, and i am not in Motsu or Jita. I am in a little system with 0-10 people average. There is no big system near, and still i lag. The lag have came reasonly, i dont know why, but i want it to stop.
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fire 59
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.02.08 10:37:00 -
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Originally by: Galaon I dosent make lvl 4, only lvl 2-3 mission, and i am not in Motsu or Jita. I am in a little system with 0-10 people average. There is no big system near, and still i lag. The lag have came reasonly, i dont know why, but i want it to stop.
Have look on the sticky on optimising your computer/reducing lag. It help's an incredible amount, seriously.
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Galaon
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Posted - 2007.02.08 10:45:00 -
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Originally by: fire 59
Have look on the sticky on optimising your computer/reducing lag. It help's an incredible amount, seriously.
Where can i find that sticky?
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Galaon
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Posted - 2007.02.08 10:45:00 -
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Originally by: fire 59
Have look on the sticky on optimising your computer/reducing lag. It help's an incredible amount, seriously.
Where can i find that sticky?
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Ros'Alin
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Posted - 2007.02.08 13:08:00 -
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Originally by: fire 59 Instead of moaning how the game won't bend to yourd emand's, how about adapting a little (shock horror ) and moving to a better system/less people/new area/whatever.
Dude lemme throw some facts for your arse kissing head: 1) Aint client issue, its server side issue. 2) I wanna play caldari lvl4 missions, its up to DEVS not me, to put agents in non-crowded areas. 3) The bottom of line is that the reason probably we wont get this fixed is because people that dont run lvl4 Command/Security missions and come to say they dont care about the lag.
ONCE AGAIN: This post is for Players who run Security/Command lvl4 missions in Motsu, Saila, Laah, Komo with their expensive Ships. Is that you? no? DONT REPLY THANKS
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fire 59
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.02.08 20:41:00 -
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Originally by: Galaon
Originally by: fire 59
Have look on the sticky on optimising your computer/reducing lag. It help's an incredible amount, seriously.
Where can i find that sticky?
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=110129, there ya go mate. there is some very good advice in it which really can help.
To the op, dude, i expressed my opinion on the matter and you responded like a retard. i gave an honest non bias opinion on the matter. I used to carebear and until i was shown how to optimise my client/take steps to reduce lag, it was awful. Now i can do whatever anywhere, only suffer in jita or in massive fleet battle's, and even then after the intial load up, it's all good.
If you want to start a flame war with me, keep insulting me and stuff and we can go mate.
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nutbar
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2007.02.09 00:15:00 -
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There are reasons why people may not want to move even if the lag is bad... here's my reasons and I am sure others may share it:
1) I run lvl4 missions for my isk so I can get new toys and play with them. 2) I don't want to join a player corp - pvp or pve related, even with 0% tax. I like my solo life, and it's not boring. 3) I have a 9.99 standing with Caldari Navy, and a 9.8 with the q18 Motsu chick, and I have every intention to get her to a true 10.0 before I move out. 4) I have LOTS of ships and stuff parked in Motsu - moving bases is out of the question until #3 is met. 5) People accrue lots of LP with an agent to get specific offers (I am currently not bothering with this - just cashing out on skillbooks now). Until LP can move agents, people will not move. Similar to my #3. 6) There is no lowsec space even close to Motsu, so all lvl4 missions will never send you to lowsec where you could get ganked/probed down. This is QUITE a relief for non pvp'ers - or heck, *ANYONE* fitted for a mission and not pvp.
I'm sure there are more reasons, but there are 6 solid reasons why I personally am not moving yet - why should I be forced out of the area because CCP can't alleviate the lag in other non-destructive ways? I am hoping that the changes in missions (reducing #'s, increasing difficulty of the individual npc's) will help the lag, but I quite strongly object to being forced out of something I wish to do when I am paying for the game. I shouldn't be there for much longer - but while I am, I'd prefer to be able to enjoy the game, not endure it.
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RaSTa J0NeS
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Posted - 2007.02.09 02:12:00 -
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Hi, can i have Motsu avaliable for playing now? Its just creep now (lag of course).
Thanks
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Frug
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Posted - 2007.02.09 07:21:00 -
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Jeez it's like the caldary navy is the only caldari corp with lvl 4 combat agents.
Oh wait, there's a whole crapload more.
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nutbar
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2007.02.09 07:34:00 -
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Do the others give out CNR offers though? :)
Plus, CN rules!
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bringme2life
Caldari Imperial Ravens
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Posted - 2007.02.09 12:22:00 -
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Ok peoples cut the complains, and find yourself less populated system. CCP cannot do anything about the lag...we all know they've tried. The amount of traffic and missions generated around Motsu and Saila is just too big for their hardware to handle. There are good lvl4 agents available in low secs. Use their services. Or start doing like I do, ditch the f missions and start doing something real: make your profit off pirating
I pity those 23/7 mission runners who're thinking that beating the hardest missions is a challenge, or even interesting.
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nutbar
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2007.02.10 06:06:00 -
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Originally by: bringme2life
I pity those 23/7 mission runners who're thinking that beating the hardest missions is a challenge, or even interesting.
I can't see how it's any worse than chaining BS spawns in 0.0 - and not everyone wants to do the pirate thing. I figure had you read the posts here you'd have figured out that some of us just want to do our missions and not have people tell us that we should go do something else as a "solution".
So, cut the preaching :)
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RaSTa J0NeS
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Posted - 2007.02.11 23:55:00 -
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Originally by: nutbar I can't see how it's any worse than chaining BS spawns in 0.0 - and not everyone wants to do the pirate thing. I figure had you read the posts here you'd have figured out that some of us just want to do our missions and not have people tell us that we should go do something else as a "solution".
Thats exacly what the post want to say but some are just trying to transform a technical problem in a cultural problem, which iam sorry to see but this will keep on, no matter if u guys dont wanna see this post on top of board or not.
This isnt a flame post or whatever, its meant to complain a real problem that is a lack of the quality of the service. We bump this everytime we cant play so if u dont want to see it, dont open it, but i guess some are just too curious to read replies for a post that doesnt concern their daily EVE playing.
Coming again 23:53 EVE Time, Motsu isnt even workin. Cant do nothing without a 30 secs or more delay. Can i hate Motsu working?
Thanks.
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Lag Hon
Minmatar Lag Hon Security
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Posted - 2007.02.12 04:05:00 -
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I know this probably wont go down well with the general Caldari population but Im not trolling or trying to upset people just offering what I see is some of the cause to the problem so here goes anyway. Nerf Caldari ships a bit. If Caldari ships wernt so easy to fly and mission with, less people would gravitate to Caldari space and more would consider other races, thus reducing server load in Caldari space. Im not saying send the Caldari back to the stoneage but make them a little more SP and players skill hungry to use. That way if you have actually work with the ships then they would be a little less attractive to every other player.
Quote:
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom. Against that power governments, and tyrants, and armies can not stand. G'Kar
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nutbar
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2007.02.12 09:18:00 -
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Originally by: Lag Hon I know this probably wont go down well with the general Caldari population but Im not trolling or trying to upset people just offering what I see is some of the cause to the problem so here goes anyway. Nerf Caldari ships a bit. If Caldari ships wernt so easy to fly and mission with, less people would gravitate to Caldari space and more would consider other races, thus reducing server load in Caldari space. Im not saying send the Caldari back to the stoneage but make them a little more SP and players skill hungry to use. That way if you have actually work with the ships then they would be a little less attractive to every other player.
I think before nerfing happens like that, CCP needs to find out WHY so many people pick Caldari - and I don't mean guess or just say "this is why" - mean really ask... run a poll or something.
This is my first character in EVE - ever. I picked Caldari based on many things, none of which had to do with ships or missions, because I didn't even know about those when I made my character. I picked it based off of the description of the race, the looks, and career path choices. I don't like religion, I live near Quebec (so no Gallente) ;P, and I'd rather not be a slave thanks. That's why I'm Caldari.
Why do I run missions? Because I wanted to do a little RPG stuffs in the game - I'm by no means a "roll player", but I like storyline stuff and I thought that was something I was supposed to do in the game since it starts off with storyline stuff. Of course now I know it just loops the storyline missions after a while, but hey, I've got tons of stuff for running missions, my skills are set towards the ships to do it in, and I can run a mission on my own time/terms without having to wait for prey (pvp) or do anything with gangs or whatever if I don't want to - and I can roam around afk somewhat without the worry of being in a pod if I sit at a gate for more than a few seconds in "carebear" space :P
Nerfing Caldari is not the answer IMHO. It's not that the ships are so easy to fly, it's that missile launchers don't require as much skill to get good damage from them. That makes them decent for beginners to use and they work relatively well for pve missions. That's just how it goes.
I bet that if they made a new race in the game and gave them some elite sort of "superhuman" description about their race, and gave them some cool military and warfare related career paths, you'd end up with lots of people picking those as their race, and not Caldari... but they'd still end up doing missions, for the exact same reasons.
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