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Hargost
dangercoull enterprises
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Posted - 2016.02.22 10:18:30 -
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Anyone know what will happen to POS hardware in the light of Citadels? (I've seen much chat about the BPO's and i know that is much more scary but...)
Do I need to keep my moon locations? Will the price plummet? Should i take them down now and sell them in Jita before its too late?
What are others doing?
Thanks, fly safe
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Lan Wang
Knights of the Posing Meat FETID
2512
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Posted - 2016.02.22 10:19:43 -
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yes sell everything before its too late
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Hargost
dangercoull enterprises
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Posted - 2016.02.22 10:39:13 -
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Lan Wang wrote:yes sell everything before its too late
I know it, ya maybe i asked for sarcasm, or maybe others are thinking it too
+1 for anyone to share their honest thoughts |
witchking42
UNFRL Fleet Operations
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Posted - 2016.02.22 10:54:16 -
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I don't think there will be a price crash until the actual deployment date is set in stone.
"Spring" as a date has been a bit vague, I would expect the date to be announced as part of the keynote at Fanfest in 4 weeks time.
Once the first Citadels / BPC's are available, I would assume, like all new toys in New Eden, we'll be in silly season pricing until there's healthy competition between the Indy guys.
The old POS's could still be a viable asset for some time to come.
I'm also wondering what CCP's plans are for existing POS's (anchored /in storage). They have said they want them eventually removed from the game, but over how long a period is anyones guess. If they decide to do a straight swap with something else, the price on the old POS sticks may even increase if people see a way to acquire new tech relativity cheaply. |
Elyia Suze Nagala
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
80
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Posted - 2016.02.22 10:56:57 -
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I have several very high value faction POS BPCs I was going to build and use until this Citadel stuff came around, now I'm not sure what to do with them either.
I'm not going to sell them because the prices are so damn low now; I'm not going to give them up for that kind of money. On the other hand I can't really see a reason to build them either if CCP IS going to nerf the hell out of them down the road too. |
Pandora Bokks
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
42
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Posted - 2016.02.22 10:59:19 -
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Elyia Suze Nagala wrote:I have several very high value faction POS BPCs I was going to build and use until this Citadel stuff came around, now I'm not sure what to do with them either.
I'm not going to sell them because the prices are so damn low now; I'm not going to give them up for that kind of money. On the other hand I can't really see a reason to build them either if CCP IS going to nerf the hell out of them down the road too.
We will still need POS until other structures beyond citadels are introduced (e.g. moon mining). But I would not expect prices to go up again unless CCP offers some reimbursement over current market values. |
Max Fubarticus
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2016.02.22 11:12:49 -
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Hargost wrote:Anyone know what will happen to POS hardware in the light of Citadels? (I've seen much chat about the BPO's and i know that is much more scary but...)
Do I need to keep my moon locations? Will the price plummet? Should i take them down now and sell them in Jita before its too late?
What are others doing?
Thanks, fly safe
Honest reply...
Hold tight and don't do anything until everything related to Citadels is finalized ( finalized probably wrong word to use when dealing with CCP )
Too many unknowns right now. Mine are up, and will remain up until things are ironed out.
GL
Max
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Memphis Baas
1165
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Posted - 2016.02.22 11:18:06 -
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Do you keep your POS in place to "safeguard its intrinsic value" or do you keep it in place to mine moon goo? |
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CCP Ytterbium
C C P C C P Alliance
4512
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Posted - 2016.02.22 11:18:08 -
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Hargost wrote:Anyone know what will happen to POS hardware in the light of Citadels? (I've seen much chat about the BPO's and i know that is much more scary but...)
Do I need to keep my moon locations? Will the price plummet? Should i take them down now and sell them in Jita before its too late?
What are others doing?
Thanks, fly safe
Depends what you do with your POS.
- If you're using it for staging, storage, you can start moving that out.
- If you're using it for compression or reprocessing, without the activities below, it's also safe to remove those.
- If you're using it for manufacturing, research or moon reaction, keep it. We're not touching those in the first Citadel release.
My advice for you would be to wait until we give you guys a release date before planning anything. |
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Hargost
dangercoull enterprises
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Posted - 2016.02.22 11:34:54 -
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CCP Ytterbium wrote:Hargost wrote:Anyone know what will happen to POS hardware in the light of Citadels? (I've seen much chat about the BPO's and i know that is much more scary but...)
Do I need to keep my moon locations? Will the price plummet? Should i take them down now and sell them in Jita before its too late?
What are others doing?
Thanks, fly safe Depends what you do with your POS.
- If you're using it for staging, storage, you can start moving that out.
- If you're using it for compression or reprocessing, without the activities below, it's also safe to remove those.
- If you're using it for manufacturing, research or moon reaction, keep it. We're not touching those in the first Citadel release.
My advice for you would be to wait until we give you guys a release date before planning anything.
Thank you all very much for your good advice, just what I was looking for. BTW I use them for reprocessing, manufacturing, & research
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Krevnos
Back Door Burglars The Otherworld
64
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Posted - 2016.02.22 12:45:23 -
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Lol at the first reply!
On a serious note, probably not. CCP will refund you ISK to an average historic value of your POS and mods. |
Lorno Black
Sternenbastarde
4
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Posted - 2016.02.22 16:01:04 -
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CCP Ytterbium wrote:Depends what you do with your POS.
- If you're using it for staging, storage, you can start moving that out.
- If you're using it for compression or reprocessing, without the activities below, it's also safe to remove those.
- If you're using it for manufacturing, research or moon reaction, keep it. We're not touching those in the first Citadel release.
What is with Gas Reactions in WH? Does this meets Bullet 2 or 3? |
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CCP Ytterbium
C C P C C P Alliance
4515
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Posted - 2016.02.22 17:12:52 -
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We're not touching anything tied to reactions right now. |
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Lorno Black
Sternenbastarde
4
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Posted - 2016.02.22 17:21:25 -
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Thx for the clarification |
d0cTeR9
Oceanic Death Squad SpaceMonkey's Alliance
315
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Posted - 2016.02.22 18:05:34 -
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Meh wait and see. Same as what us supercap pilots are doing that have hundreds of billions of isk tied in ships/modules.
It's all we can do... wait and see.
Been around since the beginning.
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Celthric Kanerian
Ascendance Of New Eden Workers Trade Federation
660
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Posted - 2016.02.22 18:58:03 -
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I heard all the cool kids blow them up... Except the faction ones, cause they are pretty. |
Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
3771
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Posted - 2016.02.22 19:58:48 -
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Hargost wrote:Anyone know what will happen to POS hardware in the light of Citadels? (I've seen much chat about the BPO's and i know that is much more scary but...)
Do I need to keep my moon locations? Will the price plummet? Should i take them down now and sell them in Jita before its too late?
What are others doing?
Thanks, fly safe One thing to consider: If you are in high sec, and use your POS for refining and/or compression:
Be aware that you can unanchor and scoop your POS in a short amount of time in the event of war. That is, you do not need to worry about defending it. At the moment, we do not know how long it takes to scoop a citadel. I've heard rumors it will take over a day, which means you cannot take it down in the event of war before the war goes live. You must defend it. Thus, you may find keeping your POS to be preferable.
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Rapscallion Jones
Omnibus Solutions
85
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Posted - 2016.02.24 20:22:58 -
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To those holding out for a 'reimbursement' on your POS and modules, I wouldn't put much stock in that dream. Just revisit the indy forums circa the Criuis expansion. Most everyone was banking on a buyback of their excess laboratories when we went from a limited number of research slots per lab to unlimited slots in a single lab.
In the end there was no buyback and a lot of people were stuck with what they had. The CCP opinion on it was, 'you got your value out of them, no free iskies for you!'
I haven't looked recently but after the Criuis expansion laboratory prices crashed big time from the glut of excess labs on the market. I doubt the Hyasyoda lab ever regained their former value. |
Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
1104
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Posted - 2016.02.24 20:58:11 -
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Guess I should sell my medium and large towers, since it's unlikely I put them up again.
I'll keep the small towers. I bought lots of fuel when it was at a long time low in 2013 or 2014 and have been running large, medium and currently small towers on it. There's enough for another two or three years and either I'll burn through it or CCP takes the sticks down .
Remove insurance.
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Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs
5773
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Posted - 2016.02.24 22:26:34 -
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I sold all the extra starbase modules I had stockpiled over the years. All I kept was excess stront and ammo.
I don't expect I'll have need of a personal medium citadel, though a corp-mate might, so I could piggy-back off of that.
My POS are otherwise still fitted and active. |
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rikomos maxxwell
Corporation12
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Posted - 2016.02.24 23:00:27 -
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CCP Ytterbium wrote:Hargost wrote:Anyone know what will happen to POS hardware in the light of Citadels? (I've seen much chat about the BPO's and i know that is much more scary but...)
Do I need to keep my moon locations? Will the price plummet? Should i take them down now and sell them in Jita before its too late?
What are others doing?
Thanks, fly safe Depends what you do with your POS.
- If you're using it for staging, storage, you can start moving that out.
- If you're using it for compression or reprocessing, without the activities below, it's also safe to remove those.
- If you're using it for manufacturing, research or moon reaction, keep it. We're not touching those in the first Citadel release.
My advice for you would be to wait until we give you guys a release date before planning anything.
are corporal hangars safe for in coming expasion?
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Zander Kumamato
The Chaos Void
45
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Posted - 2016.02.24 23:09:42 -
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Should keep the POS system in place regardless of the citadel thing.
Keep options in place instead of removing them. |
Hal Morsh
Hmmzor. Muffins of Mayhem
509
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Posted - 2016.02.24 23:28:32 -
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Celthric Kanerian wrote:I heard all the cool kids blow them up... Except the faction ones, cause they are pretty.
To be honest when I found a blueprint for a tower, i literally sold it immediately to an alliance member.
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Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation The Honda Accord
2524
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Posted - 2016.02.24 23:53:13 -
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I ended up basically walking away from an OK low sec moon since I really needed a change from the dread POS grind.
Haven't been happier since. |
Atomic Virulent
Dark Matter Industrial
136
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Posted - 2016.02.25 02:49:29 -
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CCP prefers to keep us all in a constant state of limbo. They wouldn't want us players slipping into a state of clarity and awareness now would they? |
Iria Ahrens
Space Perverts and Forum Pirates
775
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Posted - 2016.02.25 04:33:40 -
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ok, this doesn't affect me much, but I am curious. Why are POS being removed really? Pos are small, citadels are HUGE. It seems to me like CCP is saying, No more frigates, cruisers, and battleships because we now have TITANS!
I understand the citadels are going to have a different mechanic, with modular builds etc, and it all sounds great, but HUGE! Are there going to be modular small stations too?
I think the main draw of the POS of old is that they were accessible to small groups. But it doesn't sound like this is applicable to the new citadel mechanic. Because CCP hasn't really demonstrated that citadels are a POS replacement, I've seen the blogs, and they seem to be outpost replacements, which is a whole different scale.
You could put a small pos in a BR and drop it off inside a Wh and start your own little operation. What about the little guy in all this new mechanic?
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Ibutho Inkosi
Irubo Kovu
196
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Posted - 2016.02.25 18:54:11 -
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So....what Reddit section will we find this announcement in?
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Rory Wolf
United Wolfs Nations
10
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Posted - 2016.02.26 21:39:22 -
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I am quite curious if the dead sticks littered all over New Eden will be quietly removed. I sure wish they would be salvageable after they have been offline for an extended period of time. |
BambarbiyaKirgudu
Real Pilots Group
22
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Posted - 2016.03.02 06:12:04 -
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I see many already understand that the removal of POS with games nobody wants and it's stupid - but its don't understand only in CCP - may be they are not playing in this game?) |
Anthar Thebess
1469
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Posted - 2016.03.02 08:04:20 -
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CCP Ytterbium wrote:Hargost wrote:Anyone know what will happen to POS hardware in the light of Citadels? (I've seen much chat about the BPO's and i know that is much more scary but...)
Do I need to keep my moon locations? Will the price plummet? Should i take them down now and sell them in Jita before its too late?
What are others doing?
Thanks, fly safe Depends what you do with your POS.
- If you're using it for staging, storage, you can start moving that out.
- If you're using it for compression or reprocessing, without the activities below, it's also safe to remove those.
- If you're using it for manufacturing, research or moon reaction, keep it. We're not touching those in the first Citadel release.
My advice for you would be to wait until we give you guys a release date before planning anything. Some serious question. Can we get possibility to reprocess modules at 100%
I invested time and ISK in getting stuff to Stain, now i don't want to move it back just to haul again citadel stuff. Materials from this modules i could use for building new citadel stuff.
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