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CCP Phantom
C C P C C P Alliance
6511
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Posted - 2016.02.23 16:02:30 -
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Team Security comes with interesting news - as always!
This time we clarify the use of third party tools and overlays. Additionally we have an ISK Buyer Amnesty available under certain conditions!
Read more about these interesting news in the latest dev blog from Team Security Overlays, ISK Buyer Amnesty and Account Security
CCP Phantom - Senior Community Developer - Volunteer Manager
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Daemun Khanid
Apollo Defence Industries
462
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Posted - 2016.02.23 16:12:07 -
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Love the graph.
Daemun of Khanid
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Dart Aurel
Space Roar Wild Wild West.
3
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Posted - 2016.02.23 16:15:51 -
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There are 2 questions regarding windows switching policy points: 1. Is it prohibited to have 2 clients open and visible each on its own monitor? 2. I play EVE Online under Linux + Wine. Also I have tiled WM (xmonad) which allows to switch windows really fast (<50ms delay). Is this fair use or is it an exploit? |
Mail Lite
The Tuskers The Tuskers Co.
19
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Posted - 2016.02.23 16:18:33 -
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Just wanted to check with you about 'Pirates Little Helper'.
It is a programme were you CTRL-A CTRL+C in local and it brings it up out of game, you get little icons which show what militia they are in, whether they are known to be link toons or whether they USE link toons. It also shows how many of each corp/alliance or in local without trolling though them.
It gives you instant access to their KB, their last KB activity and what their 3 favourite ships are. It also gives the average number of pilots on all of their killmails (good for identifying gangs/bait)
Can you confirm this is something that is ok to use? |
Altrue
Exploration Frontier inc
2001
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Posted - 2016.02.23 16:26:40 -
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"Let us start with everybodyGÇÖs favorite reading material, the EULA" hehehe made me laugh.
Interesting devblog, albeit a bit light on the announcements, but the information there is indeed highly valuable.
Signature Tanking Best Tanking
Retired Exploration Frontier Inc [Ex-F] CEO - Ex-BRAVE - Eve-guides.fr
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Don ZOLA
Omniscient Order
269
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Posted - 2016.02.23 16:37:07 -
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SP trading was nothing related to cash I see, yea right.... Now even asking (though I feel it almost as begging) banned people to come back hoping that this time they will spend money purchasing from CCP directly.
Wish CCP was honest with us. State financial troubles, increase subscription or let`s find solution together instead of ruining the game and now going this low...
There are 2 rules in a successful life: 1. Don't tell people everything you know
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Suede
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
92
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Posted - 2016.02.23 16:41:46 -
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Altrue wrote:"Let us start with everybodyGÇÖs favorite reading material, the EULA" hehehe made me laugh. Interesting devblog, albeit a bit light on the announcements, but the information there is indeed highly valuable.
made me laugh more as you notice CCP post this dev blog just after SP trading came in. I bet CCP have notice Players are gold farm SP
CCP make problems for them Self when they are going more down to Pay to Win Model.
Bad road to go down Pay To Win
To why CCP not listen to it player base in regards to SP trading we will never know.
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Opner Dresden
Lugus Foundry The Explicit Alliance
32
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Posted - 2016.02.23 16:43:44 -
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At some point CCP needs to get a coherent policy about 3rd party programs... because that example you gave is utter horse ****. Pirate's Little Helper gives much more information more quickly than seeing another local, and I can see many locals without any overlays just by using Windowed mode.
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Ayumi Shekki
Thee Almitee Ones Paragons Of Virtue
18
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Posted - 2016.02.23 16:49:08 -
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Don ZOLA wrote:SP trading was nothing related to cash I see, yea right.... Now even asking (though I feel it almost as begging) banned people to come back hoping that this time they will spend money purchasing from CCP directly.
Wish CCP was honest with us. State financial troubles, increase subscription or let`s find solution together instead of ruining the game and now going this low...
Think most player have lost faith in eve. Bad ways of CCP. CCP must be loosing money to have to rob players to buy SP which are over priced to why we pay for a sub I do not know,
CCP should make eve in to Free to Play and then over change silly costs for Stuff
Just funny that CCP have uploaded this Dev blog right after SP trading Came in
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Koz Katral
Hoover Inc. Pandemic Legion
126
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Posted - 2016.02.23 16:56:51 -
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So isboxer is now 100% banned because it allows you to only reveal certain elements of the eve client.
But what about eve preview? in theory it should be ok because it doesn't isolate any individual elements and just displays the entire client window.
As usual this is ridiculously vague.
Classic CCP. I doubt anyone will know until the ban wave hits and hundreds of legit customers are just cut out of the loop.
If you ban preview, it will definitely be in up there on the list of 'dumbest things CCP has ever done' |
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Atomic Child
Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde
0
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Posted - 2016.02.23 16:59:44 -
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1st page? |
Tavion Aksmis
EVE University Ivy League
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Posted - 2016.02.23 17:04:23 -
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Mail Lite wrote:Just wanted to check with you about 'Pirates Little Helper'.
It is a programme were you CTRL-A CTRL+C in local and it brings it up out of game, you get little icons which show what militia they are in, whether they are known to be link toons or whether they USE link toons. It also shows how many of each corp/alliance or in local without trolling though them.
It gives you instant access to their KB, their last KB activity and what their 3 favourite ships are. It also gives the average number of pilots on all of their killmails (good for identifying gangs/bait)
Can you confirm this is something that is ok to use?
Second this, I use PLH a lot and hope that I will not get banned for useing this. Yes this program kinda gives an "unfair" advantage, but it only gives information that you could othervise have gotten from zkillboard, rightclicking on the pilot and more in a condensed and quite useful way. |
Ayumi Shekki
Thee Almitee Ones Paragons Of Virtue
19
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Posted - 2016.02.23 17:04:44 -
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Koz Katral wrote:So isboxer is now 100% banned because it allows you to only reveal certain elements of the eve client.
But what about eve preview? in theory it should be ok because it doesn't isolate any individual elements and just displays the entire client window.
Man this **** is so vague.
Classic CCP. I doubt anyone will know until the ban wave hits and hundreds of legit customers are just cut out of the loop.
If you ban preview, it will definitely be in up there on the list of 'dumbest things CCP has ever done'
CCP for you. don't think CCP care much about it legit customers or players. think CCP care more about the money |
Miss 'Assassination' Cayman
CK-0FF Bad Intention
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Posted - 2016.02.23 17:05:43 -
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Well then, since they only look at server events, I better not get too good at the game lest they think I have an advantage... |
Koz Katral
Hoover Inc. Pandemic Legion
128
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Posted - 2016.02.23 17:07:42 -
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Miss 'Assassination' Cayman wrote:Well then, since they only look at server events, I better not get too good at the game lest they think I have an advantage...
Yeah although maybe I should sell my 2 extra monitors just incase and downgrade my hardware to level the playing field. |
Vulfen
Snuff Box Snuffed Out
183
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Posted - 2016.02.23 17:09:46 -
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So am i reading this correctly?
If i go out now and buy some ISK from an RMTer and then give CCP the info after it's done i will be allowed to keep the isk and the RMTer will get banned? win win for me then...
Sounds like plex sale is due to plummet for a short time if that's the case... |
Yin Zheng
Sequent Industry Out of Sight.
11
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Posted - 2016.02.23 17:12:09 -
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I, too, would like to see a clarification concerning the eve-o-preview's ability to display previews of game clients as overlays. It's not clear if this is against the rules now, because it doesn't show 'elements' of eve clients - it shows the entire client areas downscaled. |
Suede
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
96
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Posted - 2016.02.23 17:12:09 -
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Vulfen wrote:So am i reading this correctly?
If i go out now and buy some ISK from an RMTer and then give CCP the info after it's done i will be allowed to keep the isk and the RMTer will get banned? win win for me then...
Sounds like plex sale is due to plummet for a short time if that's the case...
Don't forget CCP want to become a Pay To Win Model |
Cynthia Asanari
Stryker Industries
0
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Posted - 2016.02.23 17:14:36 -
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I've recently been drawing eve ship commissions for PLEX . is this legit? I'm pretty sure it is, but I'm just double checking anyway. |
Akrasjel Lanate
Naquatech Conglomerate Naquatech Syndicate
1879
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Posted - 2016.02.23 17:19:34 -
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Quote:Gǣ<GǪAccounts may not be used for business purposes. Access to the System and playing EVE is intended for your personal entertainment, enjoyment and recreation, and not for corporate, business, commercial or income-seeking activities. Business entities and anyone who is acting for or on behalf of a business or for business purposes may not establish an Account, access the System or play EVE. Accessing the System or using the Game for commercial, business or income-seeking purposes is strictly prohibited.Gǥ
Im bad at this but does this means monetization of videos is not allowed ?
Akrasjel Lanate
Founder and CEO of Naquatech Conglomerate
Executor of Naquatech Syndicate
Citizen of Solitude
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Jayden Thomas
Manson Family Advent of Fate
15
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Posted - 2016.02.23 17:21:57 -
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I'm really surprised they didn't put an Aurum ad on that page. |
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CCP Peligro
C C P C C P Alliance
312
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Posted - 2016.02.23 17:22:38 -
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Akrasjel Lanate wrote:Quote:Gǣ<GǪAccounts may not be used for business purposes. Access to the System and playing EVE is intended for your personal entertainment, enjoyment and recreation, and not for corporate, business, commercial or income-seeking activities. Business entities and anyone who is acting for or on behalf of a business or for business purposes may not establish an Account, access the System or play EVE. Accessing the System or using the Game for commercial, business or income-seeking purposes is strictly prohibited.Gǥ Im bad at this but does this means monetization of videos is not allowed ?
This is covered under the following policy: https://community.eveonline.com/support/policies/monetization-of-videos-and-streaming-policy/
Speaking of which, we recently had a bunch of policies translated and updated on the website, check it out: https://community.eveonline.com/support/policies/
Cheers!
CCP Peligro - Team Security
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woooooooooooo
DeepSpace Manufacturers DeepSpace.
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Posted - 2016.02.23 17:22:39 -
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it was awesome DEV-BLOG about account security. but, i recommend adding EVE Online SSO feature is safe at 'same username' things. for make rock solid, crystal clear.
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Perry Swift
SniggWaffe WAFFLES.
2
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Posted - 2016.02.23 17:24:55 -
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what about eve-o? Do you really want people with a single monitor to be in an disadvantage? ccplease |
Bug Shayiskhun
Upstair Holdings Inc.
0
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Posted - 2016.02.23 17:26:39 -
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Effective immediately, we are also offering amnesty for ISK buyers who come clean by emailing [email protected] with actionable evidence of people selling ISK. Such information should include:
What you bought When you bought it From whom you bought it Proof of purchase GÇô weGÇÖll correlate with our own in-game logs. Usually your proof of purchase or receipt will include all of the 3 items above. For your honesty and cooperation, which is sincerely appreciated, you will not be banned. Other actions will be determined on a case by case basis.
We want to point out that this is not intended to encourage anyone to go and buy ISK GÇô if you have already then you can come forward with actionable information and receive amnesty as described above. Repeat offenders who have previously utilized the amnesty program will of course not be viewed in such a positive light.
We also want to draw attention to the GÇ£PLEX for SnitchesGÇ¥ program which permits us to reward players with PLEX if they send us reliable and actionable information about security related issues. For more details on this please go here.
This is a joke! if you really are going to let people get away with it just by admitting it then wtf are you doing as a company?
IF You do RMT you deserve to get banned and have your wallet negatived full stop! none of this amnesty BS, i spend my hard money on plex to support you as a company and to to help myself out with isk or would you raver me go and purchase it off a RMT? i highly doudt you would want me to do that and you want my IRL money ccp so sort your stuff out! |
JonnyPew
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2016.02.23 17:27:03 -
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"So the combination is... one, two, three, four, five? That's the stupidest combination I've ever heard in my life! That's the kind of thing an idiot would have on his luggage!" - Dark Helmet
I never not think of this quote when reading about account security.
EVE Online is my hobby
http://www.youtube.com/JonnyPew
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Uppsy Daisy
Perkone Caldari State
637
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Posted - 2016.02.23 17:31:33 -
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CCP Phantom wrote:Team Security comes with interesting news - as always! This time we clarify the use of third party tools and overlays. Additionally we have an ISK Buyer Amnesty available under certain conditions! Read more about these interesting news in the latest dev blog from Team Security Overlays, ISK Buyer Amnesty and Account Security
Really great work on eliminating RMT!!
But the rest of this blog is just so vague! Even the 'useful summaries' are not useful.
Quote:e.g. GÇïGÇïGÇïIn short: Do NOT use any tools/applications/modifications which either modify the client in any way OR provide you any kind of unfair benefit/advantage.
What is an unfair benefit/advantage? Is using EFT or PYFA an unfair benefit/advantage? Is using a spreadsheet to help with industry calculations an unfair benefit/advantage? Is using a more tailored app like Eve Mentat or ISK per hour an unfair benefit/advantage? This really needs clarifying properly!
Quote:We may, in our discretion, tolerate the use of applications or other software that simply enhance player enjoyment in a way that maintains fair gameplay. AS LONG AS itGÇÖs fair to everybody - neither you nor anybody else gets any unfair advantage GÇô we are fine with it.
Again, what is unfair benefit/advantage? What applications are tolerated and what are not? There are some very advanced applications that use the CREST API to make industry much more viable to their users - in fact I would say that if you don't use a tool, doing manufacturing profitably is very difficult. They certainly give benefits and advantages but are they fair?
CCP please help me understand. |
DaReaper
Net 7
2771
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Posted - 2016.02.23 17:31:47 -
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Perry Swift wrote:what about eve-o? Do you really want people with a single monitor to be in an disadvantage? ccplease
i'm not sure thats an overlay. iirc that and isboxer use window management, which is not the same thing.
OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining!
Yes i am optimistic about eve.. i'm giving it till dec 31st 2016 before i doom n gloom
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ChYph3r
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
166
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Posted - 2016.02.23 17:31:50 -
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Quote: Let us start with everybodyGÇÖs favorite reading material, the EULA:
6.B. Selling Items and Objects
GÇ£You may not transfer, sell or auction, or buy or accept any offer to transfer, sell or auction (or offer to do any of the foregoing), any content appearing within the Game environment, including without limitation characters, character attributes, items, currency, and objects, other than via a permitted Character Transfer as described in section 3 above. You may not encourage or induce any other person to participate in such a prohibited transaction. The buying, selling or auctioning (or any attempt at doing so) of characters, character attributes, items, currency, or objects, whether through online auctions, newsgroups, postings on message boards or any other means is prohibited by the EULA and a violation of CCP's proprietary rights in the Game.GÇ¥
This is pretty clear however it does not contain anything about PLEX codes. I have seen many a Twitch broadcaster use PLEX codes on give always to its subscribers. However it seems to be a gray area that they still use to avoid getting banned for RMT of PLEX.
Can I get a clarification on this?
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Lena Arzi
Sarmatia
0
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Posted - 2016.02.23 17:36:43 -
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Would it be possible to clarify:
- Is OnTopReplica allowed under these conditions?
- Is software reading the chat logs saved automatically by the client allowed under this policy?
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