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TomHorn
Provist Mujahideen Liberation Front
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Posted - 2016.02.25 17:02:28 -
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FLMPP will be opening a free breakfast for children program , in the Gallente zones.
As well as feeding children , it will serve as a space for educating youth about the current condition of the Caldari community in the Gallente zones, and the actions that the FLMPP was taking to address that condition.
While the children eat their meals, members of the FLMPP will teach them liberation lessons consisting of Party messages and Caldari history. Through this program, we hope to be able influence young minds, and strengthen our ties to communities as well as gain widespread support in the Gallente zones.
Anyone who would like to support the Free breakfast for children program can send food , medical supplies or isk to FLMPP corporation.
FLMPP will not abandon or forget about you our Caldari citizens in the Gallente zones. |
Morgan Wulver
Night Theifs
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Posted - 2016.02.25 17:18:44 -
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You can expect a donation of over five hundred thousand pallets of dairy products to your program within the week. No Caldari children will be receiving dry cereal, bone fractures, or the rickets on my watch. If it spoils just make cream cheese or sourdough flapjacks out of it or something.
Kirjuun! Uakan! Teknikiara! Kanpai kameitsamuu! Ra ra ra!
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Elmund Egivand
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
1034
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Posted - 2016.02.25 17:32:03 -
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Ah, the classic bread-and-circus.
A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.
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Skyweir Kinnison
Coldhammer Harvest LLC
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Posted - 2016.02.25 20:35:08 -
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You'll find that young children today are far more interested in holo-cartoons, gyrating celebrities and Megasugar Wheaty-Bangs than Provist propaganda speeches accompanied by thin but worthy gruel rations.
Oh, and thank you for notifying the authorities that a self-confessed terrorist organisation is coming to visit. I'm sure a helpful welcome from Federal security will be rolled out.
Humanity has won its battle. Liberty now has a country.
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Astera Zandraki
Black Fox Marauders
113
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Posted - 2016.02.25 20:36:11 -
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I think you'll find Federal kids well fed, educated and healthy.. so, thanks but no thanks. |
Deitra Vess
Scope Works Psychotic Tendencies.
943
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Posted - 2016.02.25 20:50:32 -
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I think if this actually gets traction, where are the parents? |
Satja Askariin
Adamantine Tactical Acquisitions
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Posted - 2016.02.25 20:59:27 -
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Morgan Wulver wrote:You can expect a donation of over five hundred thousand pallets of dairy products to your program within the week. No Caldari children will be receiving dry cereal, bone fractures, or the rickets on my watch. If it spoils just make cream cheese or sourdough flapjacks out of it or something.
Kador say's he'll match your five hundred thousand pallets of dairy products with five hundred thousand pallets of antibiotics and quinine derivatives. Apparently to prevent the kids from contracting the sniffles or malaria along with their rickets. |
Pieter Tuulinen
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Multicultural F1 Brigade
5951
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Posted - 2016.02.25 21:17:49 -
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Skyweir Kinnison wrote:You'll find that young children today are far more interested in holo-cartoons, gyrating celebrities and Megasugar Wheaty-Bangs than Provist propaganda speeches accompanied by thin but worthy gruel rations.
Oh, and thank you for notifying the authorities that a self-confessed terrorist organisation is coming to visit. I'm sure a helpful welcome from Federal security will be rolled out.
See, the politics part of this is the part that's meant to trip you up. You're supposed to try and ban this - as if donating food and medical care to poor people is a bad thing because you don't approve of whatever music is playing in the background whilst it's handed out.
But in point of fact, Children will quite happily eat cereal - especially if they're hungry.
"Caldari Prime burns, those left behind are choking on the dust and ash that fills the air, and you demand our surrender? Is this a joke? You have only hardened our resolve. Every drop of blood you have taken from us will be repaid -- with interest."
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Deitra Vess
Scope Works Psychotic Tendencies.
943
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Posted - 2016.02.25 21:21:36 -
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Uh Peiter, I think it's more the fact it comes off as trying to train little Provists that's the problem, not the aid. |
Persephone Alleile
Nocx Initiative
108
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Posted - 2016.02.25 21:33:28 -
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I do find some humour in the idea of you teaching these children, who already live in the Gallente controlled zones, what conditions in the Gallente zones are like. Would it be more accurate to say you are going to teach them what you want them to believe conditions in the Gallente zones are like?
Now if this program was in place to teach the kids about Caldari culture and traditions I would be all for it, but this just smacks of Provist indoctrination. Gotta plant the seeds of nationalism while they're young, eh?
All this will accomplish is creating a generation of Caldari children isolated from their Gallente peers and primed to swallow the Provist party line. God forbid they be allowed to come to their own conclusions.
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Aria Jenneth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
1916
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Posted - 2016.02.26 00:53:21 -
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Persephone Alleile wrote:God forbid they be allowed to come to their own conclusions. Well-- actually, the idea that most people aren't really qualified to come to their own political conclusions is kind of well-established in Caldari society. Making significant political decisions is what the Executive and Chief Executive castes are for.
"The people" don't make their own decisions very well. That's why you have a meritocratic elite make them.
The awkward bit for TomHorn is that the Provists have become a case in point: "the people" insisted on having their way, and the man they lifted to (brief) primacy was Tibus Heth.
Subsequent history suggests to most Caldari that this was a bad call. Maybe a necessary one, but ... Heth's regime had lost most of its popular support by the time it fell. |
Elmund Egivand
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
1034
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Posted - 2016.02.26 01:12:50 -
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Skyweir Kinnison wrote:You'll find that young children today are far more interested in holo-cartoons, gyrating celebrities and Megasugar Wheaty-Bangs than Provist propaganda speeches accompanied by thin but worthy gruel rations.
Oh, and thank you for notifying the authorities that a self-confessed terrorist organisation is coming to visit. I'm sure a helpful welcome from Federal security will be rolled out.
Megasugar Wheaty-Bangs? That sounds like diabetes in a box!
A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.
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Nauplius
Hoi Andrapodistai
618
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Posted - 2016.02.26 01:25:12 -
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I have contributed a supply of Genetically Enhanced Livestock to this program. Children learning to become Provists need a food that makes them strong and intelligent. A food like Genetically Enhanced Livestock. |
Aria Jenneth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
1916
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Posted - 2016.02.26 01:45:35 -
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... um. Mr. Nauplius? You do realize that the Provists, as a slightly more sympathetic incarnation of the Templis Dragonaurs, are anti-foreign influence generally?
That includes yours.
Admittedly, they might be kind of desperate for allies right now, but they're not historically the sorts to feel like they need any, so.... |
James Syagrius
Reclamation Technologies
1204
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Posted - 2016.02.26 01:47:12 -
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TomHorn wrote:FLMPP will be opening a free breakfast for children program , in the Gallente zones.
As well as feeding children , it will serve as a space for educating youth about the current condition of the Caldari community in the Gallente zones, and the actions that the FLMPP was taking to address that condition.
While the children eat their meals, members of the FLMPP will teach them liberation lessons consisting of Party messages and Caldari history. Through this program, we hope to be able influence young minds, and strengthen our ties to communities as well as gain widespread support in the Gallente zones.
Anyone who would like to support the Free breakfast for children program can send food , medical supplies or isk to FLMPP corporation.
FLMPP will not abandon or forget about you our Caldari citizens in the Gallente zones. A noble endeavor indeed.
I have it on fairly good authority however that gaining 'approval' for such charitable ventures will be fairly rigorous.
I know a few people in the areas administered by Federal authorities, I would be happy to put in a... good word for you if you like.
GÇ£Here also are the heralds of his praise."
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Skyweir Kinnison
Coldhammer Harvest LLC
197
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Posted - 2016.02.26 09:28:50 -
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Pieter Tuulinen wrote:Skyweir Kinnison wrote:You'll find that young children today are far more interested in holo-cartoons, gyrating celebrities and Megasugar Wheaty-Bangs than Provist propaganda speeches accompanied by thin but worthy gruel rations.
Oh, and thank you for notifying the authorities that a self-confessed terrorist organisation is coming to visit. I'm sure a helpful welcome from Federal security will be rolled out. See, the politics part of this is the part that's meant to trip you up. You're supposed to try and ban this - as if donating food and medical care to poor people is a bad thing because you don't approve of whatever music is playing in the background whilst it's handed out. But in point of fact, Children will quite happily eat cereal - especially if they're hungry.
I doubt there would be any intention of banning such an endeavour. It's more likely one of the more enterprising reality shows will do one of their 'poverty' specials.
However, it is highly unlikely the 'Provist Mujahideen' are seeking access for purely humanitarian purposes, even if one makes the concession that such relief is required, which it's not. Federal Security will be taking an interest in whatever this group is really up to.
Humanity has won its battle. Liberty now has a country.
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Skyweir Kinnison
Coldhammer Harvest LLC
197
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Posted - 2016.02.26 09:37:37 -
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Elmund Egivand wrote:
Megasugar Wheaty-Bangs? That sounds like diabetes in a box!
Madamoiselle Liberty does not mandate how one abuses one's insulin. It may be a sad truth that the Provist gruel is actually better for the long term liver function of the young bairns, but they mostly choose the free toys and sugary confections.
Luckily, Federation cosmetic medical procedures are so advanced, this is not a problem for most. And there is hard, physical work available on farms and construction sites for those unable to afford a good surgeon.
Humanity has won its battle. Liberty now has a country.
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Elmund Egivand
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
1034
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Posted - 2016.02.26 12:03:37 -
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Skyweir Kinnison wrote:Elmund Egivand wrote:
Megasugar Wheaty-Bangs? That sounds like diabetes in a box!
Madamoiselle Liberty does not mandate how one abuses one's insulin. It may be a sad truth that the Provist gruel is actually better for the long term liver function of the young bairns, but they mostly choose the free toys and sugary confections. Luckily, Federation cosmetic medical procedures are so advanced, this is not a problem for most. And there is hard, physical work available on farms and construction sites for those unable to afford a good surgeon.
Right. Freedom and Liberty. We are always free to obliterate our livers and clog our arteries even if those are really bad ideas.
However, why would anyone name their product the 'Megasugar Wheaty-Bangs'? Any parent who sees that box will be thinking, 'Diabetes-in-a-box'! Isn't there a more subtle name that can be used?
A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.
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Skyweir Kinnison
Coldhammer Harvest LLC
197
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Posted - 2016.02.26 12:42:00 -
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Elmund Egivand wrote:However, why would anyone name their product the 'Megasugar Wheaty-Bangs'? Any parent who sees that box will be thinking, 'Diabetes-in-a-box'! Isn't there a more subtle name that can be used?
It's not a real brand, so far as I am aware. Just a common catch-all term to signify the types of products at the extreme end of the sugary lingering death end of the consumer spectrum.
However, as a general rule, subtlety is a fairly rare trait in marketing circles, especially for things that aren't good for one.
Humanity has won its battle. Liberty now has a country.
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Nauplius
Hoi Andrapodistai
619
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Posted - 2016.02.26 12:46:10 -
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Aria Jenneth wrote:... um. Mr. Nauplius? You do realize that the Provists, as a slightly more sympathetic incarnation of the Templis Dragonaurs, are anti-foreign influence generally? That includes yours. Admittedly, they might be kind of desperate for allies right now, but they're not historically the sorts to feel like they need any, so....
This does not matter. For now. |
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Pieter Tuulinen
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Multicultural F1 Brigade
5952
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Posted - 2016.02.26 17:01:26 -
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Deitra Vess wrote:Uh Peiter, I think it's more the fact it comes off as trying to train little Provists that's the problem, not the aid.
I find the concept that a child that spends its entire life being saturation bombarded by Federal media could be deconditioned and reconditioned in the space of time it takes to eat a bowl of cereal just the teensiest bit amusing.
Psy-ops doesn't work like this. The net impact of this, unless it is repeated every morning for a decade, will be a bowl of cereal.
"Caldari Prime burns, those left behind are choking on the dust and ash that fills the air, and you demand our surrender? Is this a joke? You have only hardened our resolve. Every drop of blood you have taken from us will be repaid -- with interest."
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Elmund Egivand
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
1034
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Posted - 2016.02.26 17:07:57 -
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Skyweir Kinnison wrote:Elmund Egivand wrote:However, why would anyone name their product the 'Megasugar Wheaty-Bangs'? Any parent who sees that box will be thinking, 'Diabetes-in-a-box'! Isn't there a more subtle name that can be used? It's not a real brand, so far as I am aware. Just a common catch-all term to signify the types of products at the extreme end of the sugary lingering death end of the consumer spectrum. However, as a general rule, subtlety is a fairly rare trait in marketing circles, especially for things that aren't good for one.
How is it that that kind of foodstuff exists at all?
You know what? Nevermind. I can never figure out the Gallente palate. I suppose I should now go find solace in my larder. The flatbread will raise my mood.
A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.
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Ibrahim Tash-Murkon
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
387
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Posted - 2016.02.26 18:41:52 -
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Aria Jenneth wrote:... um. Mr. Nauplius? You do realize that the Provists, as a slightly more sympathetic incarnation of the Templis Dragonaurs, are anti-foreign influence generally? That includes yours. Admittedly, they might be kind of desperate for allies right now, but they're not historically the sorts to feel like they need any, so....
The way he says it makes it obvious that he is making a paid endorsement of the product. It has the repetition of a commercial.
Anyway, it's not relevant because the only nutritious and downright tasty breakfast for these kids is a bowl of Ishukrunch. It's not just part of a well balanced breakfast but kids love Ishukrunch. Ishukrunch has all the vitamins and minerals required by law, all the sugar permitted by law, and all the additives not prohibited by law. Ishukrunch is the number one name in perfectly legal breakfast foodstuffs!
"I give you the destiny of Faith, and you will bring its message to every planet of every star in the heavens: Go forth, conquer in my Name, and reclaim that which I have given." - Book of Reclaiming 22:13
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Morgan Wulver
Night Theifs
80
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Posted - 2016.02.26 21:58:50 -
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You all personally disgust me. I know I've never come across as the most ethical among us so perhaps I'm in no position to talk, but it goes to show the general climate of the capsuleer community that all of you would jump at the chance to write this program off as a psy-ops campaign aimed to increase insurgency among gods damned toddlers.
The youth of Caldari Prime have known, at most, two ways of life; surviving the invasion of YC110 and surviving the invasion of 115. For a child to even live through these struggles is a feat of amazing strength , and despite what many of you priviliaged pricks might realize much of the planet is either in economic, environmental, or social ruin. The only respite they've recieved on either side is the relatively brief ceasefire that they have enjoyed in the last year, all while still living under martial law so Mordu's Legion can uphold whatever order is left. Crime is rampant, supplies hard to come across outside of relief efforts, and there's plenty of civil unrest on both sides for one ethnicity living inside the district of another.
I'm not gonna white-wash it either folks. I don't have statistics, but I bet its pretty rapey down there too.
And you know what, yes, as a former Dragonaur I recognize that much of the turmoil down there is our fault. But I've had the same upbringing as many of the kids on Prime, growing up under constant assault in Black Rise. I nearly slid down a path that'd end with me either face down in a ditch or patroling the streets like a feral executing anyone I came across. I was filled with hate and confusion, and it was hard to understand as a child why these things happened and what other people around me had died for. But somehow the Templis found me and if nothing else they hammered me out, taught me the meaning of national pride, and molded me into a somewhat functional human being.
While I no longer support the actions of the Templis, I still believe that people such as me that understand the damage they have caused in the Provists have the potential to make ammends here and save other children the way that they saved me. If they achieve that through something as simple as handing out sugar cereal and teaching kids how to tie knots and march, all for the better.
In fact, damn it all. I had a vacation planetside scheduled sometime in the next month, but instead of retreating to Matais what's it going to take for me to help out as some sort of troop counselor. I'm great with kids, we can talk about cartoons and how cool oribtal bombardments are to watch.
Kirjuun! Uakan! Teknikiara! Kanpai kameitsamuu! Ra ra ra!
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Pieter Tuulinen
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Multicultural F1 Brigade
5953
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Posted - 2016.02.26 23:04:45 -
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Ibrahim Tash-Murkon wrote: Anyway, it's not relevant because the only nutritious and downright tasty breakfast for these kids is a bowl of Ishukrunch. It's not just part of a well balanced breakfast but kids love Ishukrunch. Ishukrunch has all the vitamins and minerals required by law, all the sugar permitted by law, and all the additives not prohibited by law. Ishukrunch is the number one name in perfectly legal breakfast foodstuffs!
Never. Ishukrunch is sugary liberal nonsense packed full of foreign ingredients. I eat Kaalakrunch which is made from the best vat grown ingredients in good Caldari stations everywhere.
Kaalakrunch is good for the economy and okay for you!
"Caldari Prime burns, those left behind are choking on the dust and ash that fills the air, and you demand our surrender? Is this a joke? You have only hardened our resolve. Every drop of blood you have taken from us will be repaid -- with interest."
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Gosakumori Noh
Hematology Advancement Program Of Questionable Repute
749
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Posted - 2016.02.26 23:06:39 -
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Pieter Tuulinen wrote:Kaalakrunch is good for the economy and okay for you!
You are adjusting to lets-just-call-it-civilian life well, Pieter! |
Pieter Tuulinen
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Multicultural F1 Brigade
5953
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Posted - 2016.02.27 00:37:38 -
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Gosakumori Noh wrote:Pieter Tuulinen wrote:Kaalakrunch is good for the economy and okay for you! You are adjusting to lets-just-call-it-civilian life well, Pieter!
I'm trying to get up later and transitioning into my not-a-uniform-at-all really well, Lady Noh!
"Caldari Prime burns, those left behind are choking on the dust and ash that fills the air, and you demand our surrender? Is this a joke? You have only hardened our resolve. Every drop of blood you have taken from us will be repaid -- with interest."
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TomHorn
Provist Mujahideen Liberation Front
262
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Posted - 2016.02.27 06:17:59 -
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Firstly i would like to thank those people who have made donations , pledges, Morgan , Satja , Nauplius, We thank you very much for your donations, its going to a good cause. I believe you understand what it is we are trying to do here.
We have been very busy recently ,with the setting up of the free breakfast for children program and i personally have not had much spare time. When i have little more time i will reassure people that this is just charitable program to feed children. |
TomHorn
Provist Mujahideen Liberation Front
262
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Posted - 2016.02.28 01:44:07 -
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Skyweir Kinnison wrote:You'll find that young children today are far more interested in holo-cartoons, gyrating celebrities and Megasugar Wheaty-Bangs than Provist propaganda speeches accompanied by thin but worthy gruel rations.
Oh, and thank you for notifying the authorities that a self-confessed terrorist organisation is coming to visit. I'm sure a helpful welcome from Federal security will be rolled out.
Mr Kinnison , we are not a terrorist organisation as you rightly know, niether Concord or any of the 4 major empires have the FLMPP registered as such. We are a party that campaign for an end to the occupation.
This is not about provist propaganda , its about helping Caldari communities in the Gallente zones.
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TomHorn
Provist Mujahideen Liberation Front
262
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Posted - 2016.02.28 01:44:55 -
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Astera Zandraki wrote:I think you'll find Federal kids well fed, educated and healthy.. so, thanks but no thanks.
This is not about feeding Federation children , this is about feeding Caldari children , who live in a zone , where their community faces persecution on a dialy basis, and are treated as second class citizens.
Hungry child is less attentive performs less well at school , than one that has had a good meal to start the day. We trying to make sure no child will start their day by being hungry. Its important to make sure we give our children the best opportunities we can. As life is much tougher for our communities in these zones.
These programs are about helping our communities to not end up in a cycle of poverty through the persecution they face, by feeding our children and giving them a good start to the day.
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