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Jasmine Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.02.05 16:00:00 -
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http://myeve.eve-online.com/mb/news.asp?nid=1367
Inaccuracies abound in the recent news report detailing the Sisters of Eve intervention in Hedoubel System. While it is reported that Sister Rhayne of SOE was attacked by the Star Fraction pilots in system was not the case and the account presented is factually incorrect and deeply misleading.
What actually happened is that a Star Fraction combat wing cleared the system of all hostiles including CYI alliance and Order of Medusa fleet assets and allowed the Sisters of Eve to take the readings they required from the affected station.
Then there was stand-off with a particular member of the SOE hired escort force under MorduÆs Legion tags. Seargant Major Rakham of MorduÆs flying a Cerberus class Heavy Assault Ship was informed that he was a viable target to SF for his political allegiances and had two minutes to depart the scene before he was engaged by Star Fraction ships.
Seargant Major Rakham ignored the warning and was subsequently destroyed in accordance with Star Fraction diplomatic customs and rules of engagement. Choosing to remain in system Rakham then hurled various impotent threats and imprecations and complaints towards the SF fleet from his pod and did all he could to inflame the situation further:
Seargant Major Rakham > Cowards Seargant Major Rakham > Star fraction you are are just cowards. Seargant Major Rakham > So says Star Fraction... Friends of the Gurista.. you are nothing more then a joke.. and well pirates. Seargant Major Rakham > By attacking me.. you destroyed alot of data that was required by the SSoE.. and I'm flying uder the banner of the SSoE you damned fool.
(This last was of course a lie since the data had already been transferred and verified by the SOE ships present.) Sister Rhayne herself chose then to inform us:
ôYour attack against our escort is considered an attack on us.ö ôFrom now on you will be considered enemies of the Servant Sisters of EVE.ö
And we wait formal confirmation from the SOE command whether this is indeed a declaration of -10 standings and free fire status or whether Sister Rhayne has the diplomatic seniority to make such decisions in the field.
So,
What conclusions can be drawn: Star Fraction choose to set MorduÆs Legion to -10 standings after their own cowardly behaviour in Pureblind as lickspittle hired help for RAZOR and the Northern Tyrants last year, this standing persists in the absence of MorduÆs Legion apologies for the deeds and words of their leadership. There are no circumstances where SF is obliged to ignore these standings û we may choose to do so but this occasion it was not our choice. The SF fleet present in Hedoubel System was easily capable of eliminating the hostiles from Order of Medusa and did so swiftly. The MorduÆs Legion pilot was warned to withdraw and chose not to. His vessel was eliminated in part payment for old hostilities which remain unaddressed.
We give fair warning that Mercenaries will be treated as entities in their own right and we will not spare them the consequences of past actions regardless of who they are currently serving. Anyone thinking to hire MorduÆs Legion in the future would do well to remember that Star Fraction is hostile to this organisation and will engage their ships and personnel anywhere in space. It is not possible for a Mercenary to escape the record of their past actions simply by taking a contract with a neutral/friendly entity û if they are not prepared to make diplomatic effort to recover the good-esteem they have lost then they must be prepared to be targets. Hostilities begin between SF and Mordu's Legion
So, official clarification from SOE is sought together with an apology for the misleading news report assembled from her inaccurate words.
Star Fraction is recruiting
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Jasmine Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.02.05 16:05:00 -
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And specifically to Sister Rhayne we say this:
Be wary of telling lies that can be so easily revealed as such. There are combat logs and local conversation records that prove everything I have said on this matter. If you wish to provoke a confrontation with the Star Fraction in support of the MorduÆs Legion you are going in the right direction û but we suspect your superiors may look on the records you have provided with a more discerning eye now the truth is in the public forum.
Star Fraction is recruiting
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Khavi Vetali
Team Americas Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2007.02.05 16:56:00 -
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Edited by: Khavi Vetali on 05/02/2007 16:57:38 I was curious as to the proper account of things when I read the bulletin this morning, as I was sure SF had no hostilities, or any reasons to be hostile towards SSOE. I was reasonably certain it had to be a non-SSOE member of the task force that had negative standings for SF and was thus eliminated.
It will be interesting to see the results of this debacle. More specifically, if clarification will be made of the erroneous reporting.
Edit: It seems the report has already been removed from publication, perhaps for correction.
Edit 2: Main News Center link has been removed, however, the article can still be found under the archives.
Originally by: Itanis "Hello there mate, I'm dreadfully sorry, but I'm going to have to sodomize you with howitzers. Have a lovely day!"
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Dust Angel
Harvest System Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2007.02.05 17:14:00 -
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Perhaps Star fraction should consider the ramifications of their actions.
mirel yirrin > "DU HAST VERBROKEN DAS FORUMERN RULEN! DU SWINE!" |
Devilish Ledoux
Caldari Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.02.05 17:21:00 -
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I am not bothered by the response of SoE's field commander, Sister Rhayne. She was obviously unprepared for sudden deviations from her mission plan and while that is likely to lead to the deaths of pilots under her command in the future, that did not happen on this occasion.
What bothers me is the irresponsible reporting of Eris Discordia. The facts are as follows:
1) The Legion's Sergeant Major Rakham was given ample opportunity to quit the field. He chose to remain and was attacked and destroyed per Star Fraction Rules of Engagement.
2) The Order of Medusa ships were also attacked by Star Fraction Free Captains.
3) Star Fraction Free Captains offered to assist the Sisters of Eve in the completion of their mission. Sister Rhayne refused to accept the offer.
4) At no time did Star Fraction Free Captains engage the pilots of the Sisters of Eve. Nor did they attempt to hinder the mission of SoE.
However, if you read Ms. Discordia's report, you would think that the Star Fraction fleet assisted the Order of Medusa in attacking the SoE escort fleet and preventing them from completing their mission.
I find it particularly disturbing that Ms. Discordia's report makes absolutely no mention of the presence of the Legion pilot, especially considering the fact that his presence (and subsequent refusal to quit the field) that led to the destruction of his vessel.
Perhaps if Ms. Discordia had attempted to contact Star Fraction diplomats for their side of the story, this botched attempt at journalism could have been prevented. _
Sig removed, lacks game related content. Please contact [email protected] for more info (including a copy of your picture!) -Pirlouit
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Kovid
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.02.05 17:43:00 -
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And oh how I like what Ly Sol said in the past [http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=247190&page=1#9] "As much as Jericho is hated by the northern allies, thier word is worth billions."
And to this day The Star Fraction's word is still worth billions. For the stubborn there are the logs for this case.
So Sister Rhayne, why do you choose to ask for help of mercernaries who have horrible standings with The Star Fraction who happen to be operating in the very area you were going? If anyone failed you it was them not telling you they could be a liability, IXDS could have told you we would be in the area. They know.
We carefully selected and laid retribution to our targets as always. We are not indiscriminate like so many others. Even in a situation like this we were even gracious making sure no data or efforts were loss among the Sister of Eve by giving warning to the Mordu pilot. Once the timer expired, so did the blowhard Seargant Major Rakham's ship.
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MrJordanIOI
Minmatar The Lantern Mining Corporation
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Posted - 2007.02.05 18:17:00 -
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Seeing the news and then reading Jasmines clarification leaves me with a sense of shock.
How Eris can so easily give up her well known credibility with such a lie is something I can not comprehend.
Bad recherche perhaps ? Biased ?
Quite a bit sad to see a reputation hurt on either side by lies spread by a third party I venture to believe.
IOI
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MrJordanIOI
Minmatar The Lantern Mining Corporation
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Posted - 2007.02.05 18:17:00 -
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Seeing the news and then reading Jasmines clarification leaves me with a sense of shock.
How Eris can so easily give up her well known credibility with such a lie is something I can not comprehend.
Bad recherche perhaps ? Biased ?
Quite a bit sad to see a reputation hurt on either side by lies spread by a third party I venture to believe.
IOI
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The Cosmopolite
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.02.05 19:33:00 -
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I was present at the events so inaccurately reported in the news and confirmed the Mordu's Legion pilot was a viable target to the Star Fraction wing commander, Jonny Damordred, while suggesting the two minutes grace period.
Those who are designated hostiles are not normally given such a grace period, it was my view that the Legion pilot should be given the warning and an opportunity to withdraw given he was working with the SoE. He chose to ignore the warning and behave in an offensive manner. The pilot lost his temper in the aftermath and no doubt he gave a highly-coloured account to the news service resulting in the poor quality report.
As has been said, SoE ships and personnel were specifically not targeted and in particular the SoE personnel who recovered data from the stricken research station were able to rejoin their ship, carrying the samples they had gathered, and depart the scene in good order.
There were independent witnesses to all that transpired, notably Ashar Kor-Azor of the Order of the Blessed Sisters of Amarr, who will be able to confirm the Star Fraction account.
The SoE are requested to confirm their stance with respect to the Star Fraction. Until they do so we will continue to regard SoE as a neutral entity not to be engaged by SF pilots. The Mordu's Legion, of course, remain viable targets.
Personally, I would recommend that SoE engage a reputable capsuleer mercenary group for escort duties in future. Mordu's Legion is a spent force that has lost all clarity of vision.
The Cosmopolite
The Star Fraction Recruitment |
Raivi
Explosion Matrix
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Posted - 2007.02.05 19:45:00 -
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I am glad to hear the Star Fraction side of this story. I for one was shocked when I read the news report on the Hedoubel incident. Whatever one may think of the Star Fraction's goals, they are not the kind of capsuleers who would actively aid he Order of Medusa against The Sisters of EVE.
I call for a full review this report by Interstellar Correspondents in order to protect the public reputation of their reporters. More now than ever, the EVE cluster needs a strong and unbiased news source which all capsuleers can trust.
----------------------------------------- Explosion Matrix: Our Name Makes No Sense |
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Ashar KorAzor
Order of the Blessed Sisters of Amarr
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Posted - 2007.02.05 20:06:00 -
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In the interest of actually contributing to this discussion in a way that forced any impulse-driven rabble-rousers to actually access another GalNet feed and thus have time to reconsider tossing stupid statements my way, or the way of any other pilot who chooses to risk InterGal, I have replied to the Doctor's implied request here.
Anyone who would like to put money toward a good cause is directed to transfer it to my wallet so I can feed some starving people today, to make up for the spiritual breach caused by even accessing this sordid network.
Yes, money from filthy outlanders will be accepted.
No, you don't have to send me a thank-you letter.
Good day.
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Bruno Bonner
Gallente Eve University Ivy League
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Posted - 2007.02.05 20:15:00 -
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I'm intrigued.
You had Mordu's Legion set to negative standing which is a fact, no arguing about it. Weren't you and your fleet informed by SoE and Mordu's Legion of their intentions in system?.
They were not pursuing actions against your organization, but hired to provide minimal escort to the SoE fleet, firing on them under such contractual circumstances could almost be interpreted as an attack on SoE, unless....
You wish to replace Mordu's Legion as the main provider of security services to SoE.
New business ventures? ------
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Tara Armitage
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.02.05 21:05:00 -
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Edited by: Tara Armitage on 05/02/2007 21:02:23 The strict ROE of The Star Fraction prohibits us from shooting pilots in organizations that are not -10 KOS to us, Mr. Bonner. More importantly, we have our own cause and we are fully committed to furthering that.
As always we reserve the right to move against any valid target according to our rules of engagement. Mordu's Legion is -10 KOS to The Star Fraction by their own actions. Seargant Major was a valid target. He chose to insult us instead of removing himself, but even so we were not ordered to engage before the time given for him to leave the area had ran out. Soon after that I fired the final blow to the fiery hull of his damned vessel myself.
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Darina Rea
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Posted - 2007.02.05 22:10:00 -
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Originally by: Jade Constantine So, official clarification from SOE is sought together with an apology for the misleading news report assembled from her inaccurate words.
Your rules of engagement are all nice and dandy, but you still shot an SoE escort that was under contract to aid the SoE under all circumstances, which frankly does not translate into abandoning them when Jack and Jill tell them to get lost. The Sergeant major could use a lesson in diplomacy, but his bravery is quite obvious.
Your 'aid' was no more then a happy coincedence with your own agenda. You deserve no apology. _________
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Khavi Vetali
Team Americas Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2007.02.05 22:16:00 -
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Originally by: Darina Rea Your 'aid' was no more then a happy coincedence with your own agenda. You deserve no apology.
Even though you think they deserve no apology, the facts of the report still need to be corrected to represent what actually occurred.
Originally by: Itanis "Hello there mate, I'm dreadfully sorry, but I'm going to have to sodomize you with howitzers. Have a lovely day!"
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Sister Rhayne
Food Relief
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Posted - 2007.02.05 22:31:00 -
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As much as it pains me to dwell upon that unprovoked act of violence and the other atrocities that took place that day, I have retrieved and reviewed my vessel's logs from the day in question. Your pilots were informed several times that the Seargant Major was a member of our relief convoy, and the Star Fraction pilots were politely asked to set aside their differences for the greater good. They chose to attack despite being informed of the nature of his involvement. When his ship was destroyed, we lost a great portion of our scanner data and the station's logs that had been transfered to his ship from our other vessels for safekeeping.
It is not my intention to slander the name of your corporations or alliance, but I will reiterate what I stated in Hedoubel after your attack. The willful, unprovoked attack on a member of our convoy fleet during a relief effort within the Gallente Federation's borders and the subsequent hinderance to our efforts has left us with no option but to consider your alliance as a potential threat to our relief operations, and our pilots and members of our convoy must be warned of the possible danger that your ships represent.
May God bless us with his light in these dark days. |
Sister Rhayne
Food Relief
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Posted - 2007.02.05 22:31:00 -
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As much as it pains me to dwell upon that unprovoked act of violence and the other atrocities that took place that day, I have retrieved and reviewed my vessel's logs from the day in question. Your pilots were informed several times that the Seargant Major was a member of our relief convoy, and the Star Fraction pilots were politely asked to set aside their differences for the greater good. They chose to attack despite being informed of the nature of his involvement. When his ship was destroyed, we lost a great portion of our scanner data and the station's logs that had been transfered to his ship from our other vessels for safekeeping.
It is not my intention to slander the name of your corporations or alliance, but I will reiterate what I stated in Hedoubel after your attack. The willful, unprovoked attack on a member of our convoy fleet during a relief effort within the Gallente Federation's borders and the subsequent hinderance to our efforts has left us with no option but to consider your alliance as a potential threat to our relief operations, and our pilots and members of our convoy must be warned of the possible danger that your ships represent.
May God bless us with his light in these dark days. |
K'srah
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.02.05 22:33:00 -
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::scoffs::
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K'srah
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.02.05 22:33:00 -
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::scoffs::
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Darina Rea
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Posted - 2007.02.05 22:46:00 -
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Originally by: Khavi Vetali
Originally by: Darina Rea Your 'aid' was no more then a happy coincedence with your own agenda. You deserve no apology.
Even though you think they deserve no apology, the facts of the report still need to be corrected to represent what actually occurred.
Ofcourse. _________
Time is on our side. |
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The Cosmopolite
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.02.05 23:02:00 -
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Originally by: Sister Rhayne When his ship was destroyed, we lost a great portion of our scanner data and the station's logs that had been transfered to his ship from our other vessels for safekeeping.
So it is your claim that digital data is lost at the origin point when it is transferred from one ship to another? That may be a common device in holoreel science-fiction romances but it is a patent nonsense.
Let's examine the logs:
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[ 21:42:17 ] Seargant Major Rakham > Your Scanners should be working fine.. Send me the data. [ 21:42:35 ] Sister Rhayne > I am still getting no response, I will have to dock if their communications equipment is damaged. [ 21:42:40 ] Disciple Sibanna > Confirmed Sir, data transfer started. [ 21:42:56 ] Seargant Major Rakham > Is this all of the data? [ 21:43:17 ] Disciple Sibanna > Yes sir, no life signs...... my concern, [ 21:47:11 ] Seargant Major Rakham > Sibanna, send a priorty comms to CONCORD.. Send them the data you have.. Tell them that we have a code black situation.Sister, my scans are showing that the enviroment on that station is unsafe and I suggest we request a CONCORD HAZMAT team. [ 21:47:49 ] Seargant Major Rakham > I am sending you the results of my scan for you to confirm the readings. [ 21:47:56 ] Gaven Blands > Increased [ 21:48:03 ] Disciple Sibanna > Data sent Sir. [ 21:48:24 ] Disciple Sibanna > Receiving your logs now.... 50% transfer complete. [ 21:51:59 ] Disciple Sibanna > Sergant Major, CONCORD repsonce... [ 21:53:09 ] Disciple Sibanna > Transfer Complete Sergant Major im awaiting orders. [ 21:55:08 ] Seargant Major Rakham > We have orders from CONCORD Sister.. All ships are to move to at least 100km from the station. That includes you.. You are also to meet a HAZMAT team at the Cords I am sending you. [ 21:55:34 ] Sister Rhayne > Thank you Seargant Major, I will do that once we can confirm [ 21:56:23 ] Seargant Major Rakham > My scans are showing no life signs Sister, as no doub't yours are. [ 21:57:22 ] Sister Rhayne > My team is reporting in now... It seems... that they found many of the civilians... all dead. [ 21:58:13 ] Sister Rhayne > No signs of wounds or injuries... Not yet, Sibanna, it is a large outpost... [ 21:58:34 ] Sister Rhayne > There are many floors to investigate, but I fear that I must trust our scanners. Everyone aboard is dead. [ 21:59:08 ] Sister Rhayne > I've instructed my team to gather biomass samples for post-mortum study. [ 22:01:12 ] Sister Rhayne > My team has returned, I am prepared to enter quarantine as CONCORD has requested. [ 22:02:56 ] Sister Rhayne > [...] bodies are loaded into the cyro-refridgeration units for preservation.
So, Disciple Sibanna of SoE is scanning the station, she transfers data to the Legion pilot, Rakham, but clearly retains a copy of that data as she later sends that data at his request to CONCORD. CONCORD eventually acknowledge receipt of the data. There are at this point at least three copies of that data extant so it cannot be said to be lost. Note that Disciple Sibanna also receives full copies of Rakham's logs.
There is then the matter of data obtained while Sister Rhayne's team is on board scanning and collecting samples, including bodies. While a datastream may have been sent to the Legion pilot as a sensible backup measure it stretches credulity that a science vessel would need to transfer, without retaining its own copies, all data to a military ship such as the Cerberus piloted by Rakham.
I am sorry, Sister Rhayne, but I simply do not believe you and there are not many who will. You are trying to accuse us of something that could only happen if you were the most incompetent scientists in the cluster. Is that really what you are saying?
As for our attack, I repeat, our response to your entreaty was to give the pilot ample time to withdraw. This is not a courtesy we usually extend to hostile entities. He squandered it.
The Cosmopolite
The Star Fraction Recruitment |
Jowen Datloran
Caldari Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2007.02.05 23:15:00 -
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Guess that is another marking in the "terrorist book" for Star Fraction.
Reminds me of FON: naive ideals, brutal and indiscriminate methods. ---------------- Mr. Science & Trade Institute |
Kovid
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.02.05 23:30:00 -
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Originally by: Sister Rhayne Your pilots were informed several times that the Seargant Major was a member of our relief convoy, ... When his ship was destroyed, we lost a great portion of our scanner data and the station's logs that had been transfered to his ship from our other vessels for safekeeping.
Disciple Sibanna > Receiving your logs now.... 50% transfer complete. ... Disciple Sibanna > Transfer Complete Sergant Major im awaiting orders.
In fact Sibanna was sent data FROM the Sergent Major. Simply put, Disciple Sibanna was not shot. No data was lost.
Originally by: Sister Rhayne It is not my intention to slander the name of your corporations or alliance, but I will reiterate what I stated in Hedoubel after your attack. The willful, unprovoked attack on a member of our convoy fleet during a relief effort within the Gallente Federation's borders and the subsequent hinderance to our efforts has left us with no option but to consider your alliance as a potential threat to our relief operations, and our pilots and members of our convoy must be warned of the possible danger that your ships represent.
I would normally come to the assumption that something is happening behind the scenes and Sister Rayne is intentionally covering up something by decieving people at the situation and to Galnet reporters. The logs clearly show the transfer of data meaning there are copies on different ships.
As for being unprovoked. We told you no SoE would be hurt, and none were. The provocation happened months before in the north when Mordu's made their bed. You just had to see the Sergent Major put to bed with your own eyes. Now take off the blinders or stop the lies. Never mind the blinders. You have been caught outright telling untruths. What is your real goal?
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Jasmine Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.02.05 23:56:00 -
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Sister Rhayne.
The issue of the "lost data" having been totally refuted by the words of your own organisation let us move on to your own use of innept mercenaries of little skill, talent, or diplomatic ability.
Originally by: Sister Rhayne It is not my intention to slander the name of your corporations or alliance, but I will reiterate what I stated in Hedoubel after your attack. The willful, unprovoked attack on a member of our convoy fleet during a relief effort within the Gallente Federation's borders and the subsequent hinderance to our efforts has left us with no option but to consider your alliance as a potential threat to our relief operations, and our pilots and members of our convoy must be warned of the possible danger that your ships represent.
It is very simple Sister Rhayne. Take more care in selecting mercenary protection for your operations in future. If you select Mordu's Legion know they are Kill on Sight for the Star Fraction and we will eliminate their vessels if at all possible. We consider Mordu's Legion to be a bankrupt organisation of cowards and dogs unworthy of respect - you would do better to hire a more reputable organisation for your future operations.
And still this does leave us with the entirely inaccurate news report that appears to allege we sided with the Order of the Medusa against SOE vessels.
I trust you will be issuing an apology for this shameful misrepresentation of the facts now?
Star Fraction is recruiting
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Celia Azur
Minmatar Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.02.05 23:59:00 -
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Originally by: Jowen Datloran Guess that is another marking in the "terrorist book" for Star Fraction.
Reminds me of FON: naive ideals, brutal and indiscriminate methods.
Read the thread. Read the thread. Read it again. Now try comprehending the silly things called words.
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Tennotsukai
Minmatar Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.02.06 00:25:00 -
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Normally, I just enjoy reading the latest bouts of politcal banter and such while having a few jugs of Starkman black mead to catch up on the who did this, and to read about then antics of Ushra'Khan and how many Amarrian eyes have been poked and noses disjointed.
But this has caught me eye.
Now there is no love between the legion and the MC, they can all rot in a Zaimeth swamp for all I care. However as a professional merc meself I feel the need to point something out..
Star Fraction claims to have given the Mordu's Sgt. Maj. time to bug out, but from what I can gather he told them to shove it and remaind with the Sisters convoy. Well, that sounded quite diplomatic coming from a Sgt. Maj in my view.. And well, if i'm on contract the only people I answer to is the MC officers and the person who hired us if we are privvy to that information. I do not answer to some political bully boy, so on that I have to side with the Mordu's pilot.. I would have given the same answer, but attached to some spare ammo via the autocannon mail service.
Also the whole business about this data.. no it must be me.. but reading theser logs somethings kinda sticks out..
Originally by: "Comms Logs"
[ 21:42:17 ] Seargant Major Rakham > Your Scanners should be working fine.. Send me the data. [ 21:42:40 ] Disciple Sibanna > Confirmed Sir, data transfer started. [ 21:47:49 ] Seargant Major Rakham > I am sending you the results of my scan for you to confirm the readings. [ 21:48:03 ] Disciple Sibanna > Data sent Sir. [ 21:48:24 ] Disciple Sibanna > Receiving your logs now.... 50% transfer complete. [ 21:51:59 ] Disciple Sibanna > Sergant Major, CONCORD repsonce... [ 21:53:09 ] Disciple Sibanna > Transfer Complete Sergant Major im awaiting orders.
Now Star Fraction you claim that the data was safe, but sorry i have to say this may not be the case..
The Sgt. Maj. Asks for data to be sent to him.. he does a scan and then sends the data from his scan after reciving data from Disciple Sibanna .. nothing else, as what would the reason for him to send back the data just sent to him by Disciple Sibanna? Thus this can be said that when his ship was destroyed he did indeed have data from the other pilots that was lost.
No doub't the Star Fraction spin doctors will jump upon this and try to blindside folks with big words and such.. But I'm afraid it looks like Star Fraction may indeed screwed up and are now trying to cover their tracks.
It's also a shame that Star Fraction have set their spin doctors upon the poor Sister, but unfortunatly by their own hand they have shown that data could indeed have been lost due to their trigger happy nature.
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Jasmine Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.02.06 00:34:00 -
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Originally by: Tennotsukai nonsense really
Perhaps you'd like a look at the longer conversation logs?
[ 2007.01.27 21:53:09 ] Disciple Sibanna > Transfer Complete Sergant Major im awaiting orders. [ 2007.01.27 21:53:19 ] Caius Sivaris > /emote can lend some minmattar duct tape for fixing [ 2007.01.27 21:53:21 ] Ashar KorAzor > Not my people, Freecaptain. [ 2007.01.27 21:53:33 ] happymappy > im so confused wheres thes the station [ 2007.01.27 21:53:53 ] Ashar KorAzor > But if you'd like to send over a consultant, they'd welcome it, I'm sure. [ 2007.01.27 21:53:55 ] Jonny Damordred > /emote nods > I thought you had better taste than that [ 2007.01.27 21:54:03 ] Tareen Kashaar > Reconfigure your scanning equipment then, it's right next to Sister Rhayne [ 2007.01.27 21:54:13 ] Sister Rhayne > Okay, I am now docked and my relief team is entering the air locks. [ 2007.01.27 21:54:14 ] Ashar KorAzor > You need to stop trying to insult people subtly, Jonny, it isn't your thing. Just go for a big one. [ 2007.01.27 21:54:18 ] Caius Sivaris > large ciollidabl;e structure [ 2007.01.27 21:54:35 ] Jonny Damordred > That was a complement, love [ 2007.01.27 21:54:36 ] happymappy > ah [ 2007.01.27 21:54:43 ] Ashar KorAzor > Sure was, sure was. [ 2007.01.27 21:54:44 ] happymappy > gota play with my thingy then :p [ 2007.01.27 21:55:05 ] Tareen Kashaar > Way too much information, happymappy. [ 2007.01.27 21:55:08 ] Seargant Major Rakham > We have orders from CONCORD Sister.. All ships are to move to at least 100km from the station. That includes you.. You are also to meet a HAZMAT team at the Cords I am sending you. [ 2007.01.27 21:55:16 ] Ashar KorAzor > Ah, great. [ 2007.01.27 21:55:24 ] Caius Sivaris > /emote is 101km away [ 2007.01.27 21:55:29 ] Ashar KorAzor > Well, let's get the hell out of here before we choke and die for restricted reasons. [ 2007.01.27 21:55:34 ] Sister Rhayne > Thank you Seargant Major, I will do that once we can confirm the status of the civilians on this outpost. [ 2007.01.27 21:56:14 ] Ashar KorAzor > OBSA personell, either get out of the 100 km range or scatter to the four winds. [ 2007.01.27 21:56:23 ] Seargant Major Rakham > My scans are showing no life signs Sister, as no doub't yours are. [ 2007.01.27 21:57:01 ] happymappy > why u shooting the guy? he was just crying in avaux local =/ [ 2007.01.27 21:57:16 ] Tareen Kashaar > He is an enemy [ 2007.01.27 21:57:18 ] Seargant Major Rakham > Please sister.. move away from the station. [ 2007.01.27 21:57:22 ] Sister Rhayne > My team is reporting in now... It seems... that they found many of the civilians... all dead. [ 2007.01.27 21:57:46 ] Ashar KorAzor > I suggest your team leave. Environment suits have been known to fail, at times. [ 2007.01.27 21:57:50 ] Tia Organa > i dont think ive ever met ya [ 2007.01.27 21:57:58 ] Disciple Sibanna > Sister have they found... Any Survivors? [ 2007.01.27 21:58:05 ] Jonny Damordred > We've met your alliance, and that is good enough [ 2007.01.27 21:58:13 ] Sister Rhayne > No signs of wounds or injuries... Not yet, Sibanna, it is a large outpost... [ 2007.01.27 21:58:18 ] happymappy > they only joined to get away from an empire war [ 2007.01.27 21:58:19 ] Jonny Damordred > if you want to lose another ship today, come back [ 2007.01.27 21:58:31 ] happymappy > =/ [ 2007.01.27 21:58:34 ] Sister Rhayne > There are many floors to investigate, but I fear that I must trust our scanners. Everyone aboard is dead. [ 2007.01.27 21:58:58 ] Jonny Damordred > Ashar... I have a problem [ 2007.01.27 21:58:59 ] The Cosmopolite > Mordu's Legion are viable targets to The Star Fraction [ 2007.01.27 21:59:04 ] Ashar KorAzor > Yes, Jonny? [ 2007.01.27 21:59:06 ] happymappy > fair play [ 2007.01.27 21:59:08 ] Sister Rhayne > I've instructed my team to gather biomass samples for post-mortum study.
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[ 2007.01.27 21:59:14 ] The Cosmopolite > Due to their support for RAZOR in the past. [ 2007.01.27 21:59:20 ] happymappy > just feel sorry for the guy that was his last ship -.- [ 2007.01.27 21:59:23 ] Ashar KorAzor > I suggest you make a command decision not to shoot them. [ 2007.01.27 21:59:24 ] Disciple Sibanna > Sister there is nothing more we can do... we should follow Sergant Major Rakhams orders and withdraw [ 2007.01.27 21:59:32 ] The Cosmopolite > We have had them set to -10 for many months. [ 2007.01.27 21:59:34 ] Seargant Major Rakham > I am here as escort for the SSoE. [ 2007.01.27 21:59:45 ] Ashar KorAzor > I also suggest you think of them as liasions to Soe and thus, temporarily, non-Mordu personell. [ 2007.01.27 21:59:46 ] Sister Rhayne > I will Sibanna, once my team returns with the bodies. [ 2007.01.27 21:59:58 ] Ashar KorAzor > After the escort is done, I suggest you shoot anyone you like. [ 2007.01.27 22:00:11 ] Jonny Damordred > Ashar, your tone is not helping you [ 2007.01.27 22:00:11 ] Admiral Eos > Sister, this is a bit much. [ 2007.01.27 22:00:13 ] happymappy > i get what u mean just poor lil nubbin =::Sad [ 2007.01.27 22:00:19 ] Admiral Eos > We have orders. [ 2007.01.27 22:00:24 ] Sister Rhayne > I would ask, on behalf of the sisters of Eve, that you set aside your differences with the Mordus Legion at least temporarily. [ 2007.01.27 22:00:27 ] The Cosmopolite > If they withdraw now, we will allow them to leave. [ 2007.01.27 22:00:43 ] Ashar KorAzor > This is why my tone was problematic. [ 2007.01.27 22:00:48 ] Disciple Sibanna > Im...sorry Sister, this is the first encounter where such a Atrocity has occured.... [ 2007.01.27 22:00:55 ] Ashar KorAzor > Come, Doctor, do you not have the authority to settle old scores peacefully? [ 2007.01.27 22:01:05 ] Ashar KorAzor > There has been enough death here. [ 2007.01.27 22:01:12 ] Sister Rhayne > My team has returned, I am prepared to enter quarantine as CONCORD has requested. [ 2007.01.27 22:01:18 ] Jonny Damordred > All bills come due Ashar [ 2007.01.27 22:01:20 ] The Cosmopolite > Two minutes [ 2007.01.27 22:01:27 ] Selim > What is a mercenary soldier doing on a humanitarian mission? [ 2007.01.27 22:01:28 ] happymappy > look ill ask emp to stay away [ 2007.01.27 22:01:30 ] Jonny Damordred > And Mordus wrang up a large one [ 2007.01.27 22:01:33 ] Ashar KorAzor > Well, I'm not here to fight Star Fraction personell. [ 2007.01.27 22:01:34 ] Seargant Major Rakham > How about I ignore you and carry on my duty along side the SSoE. [ 2007.01.27 22:01:38 ] happymappy > so no more popy of the miners [ 2007.01.27 22:01:48 ] deathbyangel > wuts goin on? [ 2007.01.27 22:01:53 ] Sister Rhayne > Mordus Legion regularly provides assistance to the Sisters of EVE in the form of escorts. [ 2007.01.27 22:02:00 ] The Cosmopolite > You die if you do not leave. [ 2007.01.27 22:02:02 ] happymappy > jerico are poping emp lol [ 2007.01.27 22:02:05 ] Dallan Arethi > Humanitarians can pay mercenaries too, Selin. [ 2007.01.27 22:02:06 ] deathbyangel > haha [ 2007.01.27 22:02:15 ] Ashar KorAzor > /emote sighs * I'm not stupid enough to challenge an experienced flight group, but I do wish that the Doctor would count time slowly. [ 2007.01.27 22:02:18 ] Gaven Blands > It's there sec status, they can pop who they like [ 2007.01.27 22:02:47 ] happymappy > bit of a gank though xD [ 2007.01.27 22:02:50 ] The Cosmopolite > Die [ 2007.01.27 22:02:56 ] Sister Rhayne > They bodies are loaded into the cyro-refridgeration units for preservation. [ 2007.01.27 22:02:57 ] Ashar KorAzor > And there it goes. [ 2007.01.27 22:03:03 ] Disciple Sibanna > Sister get out now [ 2007.01.27 22:03:05 ] Sister Rhayne > Please stop your attack [ 2007.01.27 22:03:05 ] Admiral Eos > Oh no... [ 2007.01.27 22:03:21 ] Seargant Major Rakham > Cowards [ 2007.01.27 22:03:29 ] Selim > dog. [ 2007.01.27 22:03:30 ] Nemesor > you were warned.
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Edited by: Jasmine Constantine on 06/02/2007 00:32:52
[ 2007.01.27 22:03:35 ] The Cosmopolite > SoE remain safe from us. [ 2007.01.27 22:03:36 ] Sister Rhayne > I'm sorry Seargant-Major... [ 2007.01.27 22:03:47 ] Disciple Sibanna > Sister warp to my coords [ 2007.01.27 22:04:10 ] deathbyangel > /emote gets the popcorn [ 2007.01.27 22:04:11 ] Sister Rhayne > Your attack against our escort is considered an attack on us. [ 2007.01.27 22:04:18 ] Disciple Sibanna > They just engaged Rakham with no provocation, i dont feel safe here. [ 2007.01.27 22:04:19 ] Ashar KorAzor > Do NOT engage! [ 2007.01.27 22:04:19 ] Seargant Major Rakham > Star fraction you are are just cowards. [ 2007.01.27 22:04:19 ] Sister Rhayne > From now on you will be considered enemies of the Servant Sisters of EVE. [ 2007.01.27 22:04:25 ] Ashar KorAzor > You've plagued bodies in the hold. [ 2007.01.27 22:04:36 ] The Cosmopolite > No, Mordu's Legion are fools. [ 2007.01.27 22:04:37 ] Selim > Oh, really? [ 2007.01.27 22:04:46 ] Admiral Eos > Disgusting. [ 2007.01.27 22:04:47 ] The Cosmopolite > You have been hostiles to us for months. [ 2007.01.27 22:04:49 ] Jonny Damordred > He was warned, and stupid for not leaving [ 2007.01.27 22:04:49 ] Nemesor > You ignored warnings with blatant disrespect. [ 2007.01.27 22:04:59 ] Ashar KorAzor > Sad, but accurate. [ 2007.01.27 22:05:00 ] The Cosmopolite > You were given fair warning and ample time to withdraw. [ 2007.01.27 22:05:13 ] happymappy > im so confused still xD [ 2007.01.27 22:05:22 ] Seargant Major Rakham > So says Star Fraction... Friends of the Gurista.. you are nothing more then a joke.. and well pirates. [ 2007.01.27 22:05:28 ] The Cosmopolite > SoE personnel will not be hurt. [ 2007.01.27 22:05:28 ] Gaven Blands > So Seargant Major Rakham finally figured out who your enemy is huh? [ 2007.01.27 22:05:42 ] Disciple Sibanna > Sergant Major im returning to base with Rhayne my place is with her, [ 2007.01.27 22:05:44 ] Ashar KorAzor > Thank you, Doctor. [ 2007.01.27 22:05:56 ] The Cosmopolite > Mordu's are the joke. You pay the price for siding with the Northern Tyrants. [ 2007.01.27 22:06:24 ] Jonny Damordred > It is sad to see SoE siding with IRON and RAZOR dogs [ 2007.01.27 22:06:27 ] Dallan Arethi > The price is to be attacked while siding with someone completely different? [ 2007.01.27 22:06:34 ] Ashar KorAzor > SoE sides with those in need. [ 2007.01.27 22:06:38 ] Selim > I had some respect for SoE. [ 2007.01.27 22:06:42 ] Jonny Damordred > pfft [ 2007.01.27 22:06:44 ] Dallan Arethi > SoE aren';t siding with Mordu's, SoE are employing them. [ 2007.01.27 22:06:54 ] Jonny Damordred > And do you see us killing them Ashar [ 2007.01.27 22:06:55 ] The Cosmopolite > SoE have NOT been attacked. [ 2007.01.27 22:07:12 ] Ashar KorAzor > You attack a convoy escort who is negative to you, and they set you at negative standings...this is in line with their operatioal procedures, I expect, as your actions were with your own. [ 2007.01.27 22:07:21 ] The Cosmopolite > Our stance towards SoE has not changed. [ 2007.01.27 22:07:36 ] The Cosmopolite > If SoE personnel aggress us, that will change. [ 2007.01.27 22:07:43 ] deathbyangel > srry for the interrupt of a good show but wuts soe [ 2007.01.27 22:07:45 ] Seargant Major Rakham > Yes they have... By attecking me.. you destroyed alot of data that was required by the SSoE.. and I'm flying uder the banner of the SSoE you damned fool. [ 2007.01.27 22:07:52 ] Ashar KorAzor > Yes, and I am glad of it, Doctor. I am pointing out that they are not so much siding with people as they are hewing to protocol. [ 2007.01.27 22:08:08 ] The Cosmopolite > Your banner is Mordu's Legion. [ 2007.01.27 22:08:13 ] Admiral Eos > Sergeant, we have to go. [ 2007.01.27 22:08:16 ] The Cosmopolite > You were given time to get clear. [ 2007.01.27 22:08:26 ] Jonny Damordred > If he had left when warned, he would have not been destroyed
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[ 2007.01.27 22:08:28 ] Ashar KorAzor > Hopefully your Pod's systems retained some of that data. [ 2007.01.27 22:08:38 ] Selim > We don't usually grant people that respect. [ 2007.01.27 22:08:41 ] Ashar KorAzor > I'm powering down. [ 2007.01.27 22:08:45 ] Ashar KorAzor > Fly well and fly safe. [ 2007.01.27 22:09:28 ] Seargant Major Rakham > Congratulations Star Fraction.. for destroying the data that was collected on the station. And no my orders come from the SSoE not some jumped up bully boy who pretends to be more then the pirates they really are. [ 2007.01.27 22:09:39 ] Jonny Damordred > Pfft [ 2007.01.27 22:09:49 ] Seargant Major Rakham > Well, I will leave you with the mess you have made Star Fraction. [ 2007.01.27 22:09:52 ] Jonny Damordred > If you want to do more than just whine in local [ 2007.01.27 22:09:54 ] Caius Sivaris > so any proof yet of any worngdoing in that station? [ 2007.01.27 22:09:59 ] Jonny Damordred > we are in stacmon, come and get us [ 2007.01.27 22:09:59 ] happymappy > Lmao woo *claps* [ 2007.01.27 22:10:06 ] The Cosmopolite > You were given time to get clear. [ 2007.01.27 22:10:15 ] deathbyangel > hehe jonny boy run to high sec [ 2007.01.27 22:10:16 ] The Cosmopolite > You are the fool for not taking the oportunity. [ 2007.01.27 22:10:35 ] Ashar KorAzor > If anyone wants a fight with SF, they're fools and will likely lose some ships soon. [ 2007.01.27 22:10:41 ] Selim > SoE, I suggest next time you operate around here that you do not hire the enemies of the Star Fraction. [ 2007.01.27 22:10:52 ] Azure Skyclad > The data coudl have been handed off in that time Sargeant Major. Perhaps pride clouded your judgement? [ 2007.01.27 22:11:27 ] happymappy > oh dam i remember that old vent chat with a jerico guy in Smiley [ 2007.01.27 22:11:40 ] happymappy > that was teh funny xD [ 2007.01.27 22:12:03 ] Dallan Arethi > Pride or faith in your better natures. I don't understand what kind of grudge demands that you attack someone for their employers when they have changed employers. [ 2007.01.27 22:12:26 ] Katrina Kirellii > Peace everyone - peace. [ 2007.01.27 22:12:32 ] deathbyangel > this reminds me of old english [ 2007.01.27 22:12:34 ] deathbyangel > like hamlin [ 2007.01.27 22:12:40 ] deathbyangel > tis so funnies [ 2007.01.27 22:12:50 ] happymappy > im getting bored o/ later on beutiful people [ 2007.01.27 22:13:33 ] happymappy > /emote chucks love at every1 in local Azn [ 2007.01.27 22:13:34 ] Dallan Arethi > Then again, I don't know all the details of your history with the Northern alliances, so I only have what passes for my sense to go on. [ 2007.01.27 22:14:31 ] Jonny Damordred > Dallan, it is long and bloody [ 2007.01.27 22:14:33 ] The Cosmopolite > Excuse me, Dallan, the standing is with Mordu. [ 2007.01.27 22:14:37 ] The Cosmopolite > For Mordu actions. [ 2007.01.27 22:14:45 ] The Cosmopolite > In Mordu interests. [ 2007.01.27 22:15:28 ] Kayne Darklight > so, does anyone actually know what happened on that outpost? or was it all lost in a hail of gunfire? [ 2007.01.27 22:16:02 ] Pilious > I don't evben se an outpost here [ 2007.01.27 22:16:08 ] Sanguineous Reaper > what you bunch of nurds roleplaying about? [ 2007.01.27 22:16:09 ] deathbyangel > i thought u couldn't put an outpost in empire [ 2007.01.27 22:16:09 ] Elesaar > its there, its puny [ 2007.01.27 22:16:18 ] Tareen Kashaar > reconfigure your scanner, Pillious [ 2007.01.27 22:16:23 ] Kayne Darklight > large collidable, rather than a station [ 2007.01.27 22:16:30 ] Elesaar > barely the size of a battleship [ 2007.01.27 22:16:32 ] Pilious > I tryed to add colidable objects [ 2007.01.27 22:16:44 ] Dallan Arethi > Fair enough, Cosmopolite. I don't think here is the place to explain them, but if I asked in a less hectic venue would you be averse to answering them? [ 2007.01.27 22:17:05 ] The Cosmopolite > No, not at all.
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