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Merdoch
Irregularis
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Posted - 2016.03.07 18:02:59 -
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Will this affect OS X users at all, or does the support EOL apply only to Windows users?
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Lara Divinity
Black Scorpion Nomads
123
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Posted - 2016.03.08 04:33:37 -
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im using win 7 professional n i tried using the new launcher it dont even launch the client window at all so im back to using the old launcher cos that works how will we be able to play eve when the new dont work properly again ur forcing things onto us without thinkin n even if id install the new launcher wich does not work as it should what to do with the updates constantly delete n reinstall eve?
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Tom Schlong
Perkone
2
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Posted - 2016.03.08 09:45:29 -
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Ima Wreckyou wrote:Thre are also some devs which are enthusiastic about that OS and it looks like they are looking out for us. I'd love a comment or statement from either the enthusiastics or the opposite faction devs concerning this topic. Do you really look out for us? Or is it rather an unassertive side view and that's all we can hope for?
Nana Skalski wrote:So only viable way of playing EVE on machines that had XP installed will be Linux and Wine I suppose. Will there be any support/hints/help/connections from the devs towards Wine in any way? |
Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite CODE.
2362
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Posted - 2016.03.08 11:35:00 -
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Tom Schlong wrote:Ima Wreckyou wrote:Thre are also some devs which are enthusiastic about that OS and it looks like they are looking out for us. I'd love a comment or statement from either the enthusiastics or the opposite faction devs concerning this topic. Do you really look out for us? Or is it rather an unassertive side view and that's all we can hope for? Checkout the Linux subforums, CCP Snorlax is quite active there and has even fixed wine specific bugs in the past like the issue with the CQ.
Tom Schlong wrote:Nana Skalski wrote:So only viable way of playing EVE on machines that had XP installed will be Linux and Wine I suppose. Will there be any support/hints/help/connections from the devs towards Wine in any way? At least on MacOS they start to support wine now (https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=472538&find=unread). It seams that the new launcher has the potential to run EVE with wine. So maybe we will see support for Linux in the future as well, at least they will check for possible problems with wine from now, which is awesome.
the Code ALWAYS wins
Elite PvPer, #74 in 2014
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Ket Ama'Kel
Almalanda Associates
5
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Posted - 2016.03.08 14:49:53 -
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I haven't read the entire thread so someone may have mentioned this already.
For any XP users who read this...Since most outlets wanted $100 or thereabouts I have stuck with XP all these years.
I did some googling and found a copy of Windows 7 for about $40 and decided to go for it. Just upgraded to Windows 7 over the weekend. This entitled me to a free Windows 10 upgrade. The free offer is good until July.
It was a pain as I had to do a clean install, but I had so much junk on my computer it was probably a good idea. For Windows 10 Microsoft got away from the goofy Windows 8 interface and went with a more "stylish" XP scheme with the start menu. The new lok isn't hard to adapt to.
I was pleasantly surprised to find my machine worked more efficiently. Frames per second went up quite a bit. With Win 7 or Win 10 and a newer graphics card (used Radeon 6850) on my old Dell Dimension I can run with the sliders maxxed.
If you don't want to do a clean install, I've heard you can save your stuff by upgrading from XP to Vista and then upgrading to Win 10
Regards, Ket
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Brokk Witgenstein
Extreme Agony The Wraithguard.
194
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Posted - 2016.03.08 15:36:24 -
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????
Waitaminute.
I'm not ready to accept this on face value. I've seen Windows 3, 95, 98, Vista, Win 8 ... as well as a plethoria of other Microsoft products dating back to 1983. Are you telling me there's a Windows version that's neither NT nor XP that actually works well?
Could somebody please confirm this intel??
I might be tempted (cause yes, I have seen the Win 10 upgrade offer but went with my gut feeling and ignored it) but I need more than just one random's guy assurance. |
Ilian Amarin
Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde
0
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Posted - 2016.03.08 21:49:05 -
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Ket Ama'Kel wrote:I haven't read the entire thread so someone may have mentioned this already.
For any XP users who read this...Since most outlets wanted $100 or thereabouts I have stuck with XP all these years.
I did some googling and found a copy of Windows 7 for about $40 and decided to go for it. Just upgraded to Windows 7 over the weekend. This entitled me to a free Windows 10 upgrade. The free offer is good until July.
It was a pain as I had to do a clean install, but I had so much junk on my computer it was probably a good idea. For Windows 10 Microsoft got away from the goofy Windows 8 interface and went with a more "stylish" XP scheme with the start menu. The new lok isn't hard to adapt to.
I was pleasantly surprised to find my machine worked more efficiently. Frames per second went up quite a bit. With Win 7 or Win 10 and a newer graphics card (used Radeon 6850) on my old Dell Dimension I can run with the sliders maxxed.
If you don't want to do a clean install, I've heard you can save your stuff by upgrading from XP to Vista and then upgrading to Win 10
Regards, Ket
Partly OEM keys but for such low prices, who cares.
Its a german site but the shops should all be in english.
http://www.keyforsteam.de/windows-7-professional-key-kaufen-preisvergleich/ |
Kommoddo
Duct-Taped Hampster
3
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Posted - 2016.03.09 22:02:41 -
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what about steam it launches with the old launcher? |
Brokk Witgenstein
Extreme Agony The Wraithguard.
196
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Posted - 2016.03.09 22:57:02 -
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There is a way to convert Steam accounts to EvE accounts (through account management).
I did the same, works like a charm.
PS: it has the additional benefit of being able to log in two accounts at once |
Dak Hakin
Frogly Technologies
5
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Posted - 2016.03.10 09:33:39 -
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Brokk Witgenstein wrote:????
Waitaminute.
I'm not ready to accept this on face value. I've seen Windows 3, 95, 98, Vista, Win 8 ... as well as a plethoria of other Microsoft products dating back to 1983. Are you telling me there's a Windows version that's neither NT nor XP that actually works well?
Could somebody please confirm this intel??
I might be tempted (cause yes, I have seen the Win 10 upgrade offer but went with my gut feeling and ignored it) but I need more than just one random's guy assurance.
I was happy with windows 8.1, but decided to do the free upgrade to 10. I am happier with that than any other windows OS that I have used, going back to 3.1. Its more stable, and faster. |
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Hal Morsh
Hmmzor. Muffins of Mayhem
515
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Posted - 2016.03.15 02:18:52 -
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Cat Harkness wrote:I can understand XP, but why would ANYONE still be using VIsta?????????????????????
Resinball wrote:thank ******* god... the chip manufacturers are even on board with this, which is even more reason to force an upgrade for an old dead systems with huge security holes. NO MORE SUB 10!!! HOORAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
IF YOU CANT USE THE WINDOWS 10 FREE UPGRADE (Even from HACKED Versions this WORKS!!!!) YOU'RE Doing it wrong.
Thank you CCP For ending legacy device support.
Acting as if everyone has the financial choice for a "new computer" or even purchasing any version of windows.. I don't particularly enjoy when vista decides to do this to my hard drive.
http://i.imgur.com/MG8RWJt.jpg?1
But for whatever reason Vista does it, and it lags the **** out of everything. We did buy an nvidia 750 gtx card for 100$ a bit ago when the 8800GS we had decided to melt, problem is it has more memory than the pc does. Got another 2 gig ram stick from a scrapped pc to bring it up to 4. It's my dads pc.
Also helps that I smashed my http://www.notebookcheck.net/fileadmin/_migrated/pics/HP_Pavilion_dv2_Image_6_04.jpg in a fit of rage 2-+ years ago because of a "job" argument constantly being thrown at it. It's a long story. Was a nice computer too.
At least they didn't say "wont be supported by vista indefinitely".
Q: How many EVE players does it take to change a lightbulb?
A: CHANGE???????? NNOOOOOOOOOOO
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Mercury Madullier
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
4
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Posted - 2016.03.15 23:53:51 -
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That's is it. I am sick and tired of this nonsense. I am going to take my money (what's left of it) and go elsewhere. I refuse.to to put up with this garbage for another second .
I AM GOING TO UNSTALL WINDOWS XP ASAP. good riddance.
You didn't think I was talking about Eve, did you? |
45thtiger 0109
AL3XAND3R.
164
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Posted - 2016.03.17 01:03:51 -
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CCP Falcon wrote:On June 30th 2016 we will discontinue support for the old EVE launcher which will also bring our Windows XP and Vista support to an end. Players still using Windows XP will be unable to launch the EVE client from the new EVE Launcher. Microsoft ended the mainstream support for Windows XP 7 years ago (14 April 2009) and extended support ended 2 years ago (April 8th 2014). While we wanted to maintain support for XP and Vista for as long as possible, it is now causing too great a burden on our development team. Although we are aware this change will affect 3.2% of our player base, we cannot continue to maintain the additional overhead supporting this platform causes. Sunsetting Windows XP support will simplify development and the complexity of our platform testing. This allows us more time to focus on new features, such as providing a smoother and more enjoyable experience on our DirectX 11 client and puts us in a better position to end DirectX 9 support in the near future. You will have 4 months until we remove the old EVE Launcher access on June 30th 2016. If you are unsure what Operating system you have you can check on this site.
So true CCP Falcon.
My Gaming rig I built it about 6 ago and it is still current.
It also runs windows 10 and DX 11 and runs EvE very well for a nearly 6 year old system.
I agree its time for CCP to have the client side running in 64 bit instead of 32 bit.
**You Have to take the good with the bad
and the bad with the good.
Welcome to EvE OnLiNe**
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Alia Ravenswing
DARK HAT
39
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Posted - 2016.03.19 19:06:32 -
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Ima Wreckyou wrote: Have you tried to run it with wine on Linux? I too play for 8-9 years, but always on Linux, and there is a quite active community in the Linux subforum which always has a solution if stuff breaks. Thre are also some devs which are enthusiastic about that OS and it looks like they are looking out for us.
No I haven't, but I am building a new system and it will run Windows 7 and/or Linux flavors so I will try it at that point. |
Alia Ravenswing
DARK HAT
39
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Posted - 2016.03.19 19:12:06 -
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Brokk Witgenstein wrote:????
Waitaminute.
I'm not ready to accept this on face value. I've seen Windows 3, 95, 98, Vista, Win 8 ... as well as a plethoria of other Microsoft products dating back to 1983. Are you telling me there's a Windows version that's neither NT nor XP that actually works well?
Could somebody please confirm this intel??
I might be tempted (cause yes, I have seen the Win 10 upgrade offer but went with my gut feeling and ignored it) but I need more than just one random's guy assurance.
Windows 10 is pure spyware. I would never recommend it. |
Chopper Rollins
Lantean Empire
1277
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Posted - 2016.03.20 22:34:20 -
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I'm on Vista it's fine. Link in the OP tells me i'm not eligible for free upgrade to Win 10, it just says get a new computer. Jaguar Landrover still uses Vista, lots of businesses do. Heard too many stories of people losing all their settings getting the new launcher.
Goggles. Making me look good. Making you look good.
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Alexandros Balfros
Liberty Rogues Aprilon Dynasty
19
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Posted - 2016.03.21 23:04:55 -
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Alia Ravenswing wrote:Brokk Witgenstein wrote:????
Waitaminute.
I'm not ready to accept this on face value. I've seen Windows 3, 95, 98, Vista, Win 8 ... as well as a plethoria of other Microsoft products dating back to 1983. Are you telling me there's a Windows version that's neither NT nor XP that actually works well?
Could somebody please confirm this intel??
I might be tempted (cause yes, I have seen the Win 10 upgrade offer but went with my gut feeling and ignored it) but I need more than just one random's guy assurance. Windows 10 is pure spyware. I would never recommend it.
Well spyware is the future at this point, if you use anything run by google you're already giving away everything so at this point i gave up caring about any illusion of privacy, i don't really have much to hide anyway, at this point there are games coming out which require windows 10 and there will be more and more eventually so you'll either have to upgrade or just get relegated to older games |
Malachir
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
6
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Posted - 2016.04.01 12:40:22 -
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I use Vista, and have no problems with it. If the new launcher doesn't work with it, then we'll see if the shortcut works. If it doesn't, then I'm going have to consider a new computer...which will have to wait.
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Xartarous
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2016.04.04 18:13:59 -
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Don't know if anyone has mentioned it, but if being cash-strapped is one of the main reasons so many people are still using windows xp, it is actually possible to use Windows 8/10 free almost indefinitely with a clean install after about half a year.
Just download the Enterprise trial, re-activate until it won't allow you too, and then re-install. I've been doing that since Windows 7, works like a charm, and actually isn't too much of a pain once you learn to keep your data organized off the main system drive. |
Brokk Witgenstein
Extreme Agony The Wraithguard.
225
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Posted - 2016.04.04 22:20:11 -
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The reason I use XP is because all my sh!t works, it's fast, reliable, easy to understand, easy to configure, maintenance-free and I like the non-bloated user interface (especially in legacy mode).
After 15 years it has reached a state of perfection - that's why there are no more updates. It's a finished product.
If my hardware doesn't change, and the programs I run don't change, then there is no need for my OS to change is there? |
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March rabbit
Federal Defense Union
1722
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Posted - 2016.04.05 09:36:07 -
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Brokk Witgenstein wrote:If my hardware doesn't change, and the programs I run don't change, then there is no need for my OS to change is there? If "your programs don't change" then how CCP should get their money?
And man, please don't tell me you still use horses? Cars exist for last 100 years!
The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
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TotallyNot AForumPod
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
3
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Posted - 2016.04.26 11:37:32 -
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But my alt is running on virtualbox, directx 9. Surely you dont plan to kill dx9 completely? .. That's pretty bad. |
Axhind
Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation
251
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Posted - 2016.04.26 13:38:14 -
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CCP Falcon wrote:On June 30th 2016 we will discontinue support for the old EVE launcher which will also bring our Windows XP and Vista support to an end. Players still using Windows XP will be unable to launch the EVE client from the new EVE Launcher. Microsoft ended the mainstream support for Windows XP 7 years ago (14 April 2009) and extended support ended 2 years ago (April 8th 2014). While we wanted to maintain support for XP and Vista for as long as possible, it is now causing too great a burden on our development team. Although we are aware this change will affect 3.2% of our player base, we cannot continue to maintain the additional overhead supporting this platform causes. Sunsetting Windows XP support will simplify development and the complexity of our platform testing. This allows us more time to focus on new features, such as providing a smoother and more enjoyable experience on our DirectX 11 client and puts us in a better position to end DirectX 9 support in the near future. You will have 4 months until we remove the old EVE Launcher access on June 30th 2016. If you are unsure what Operating system you have you can check on this site.
Any chance you guys can switch over to vulkan? Would be very nice not to be tied down to windows (especially with recent MS ambitions to become a NSA partner). |
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
5809
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Posted - 2016.05.05 13:44:07 -
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Yang Aurilen wrote:Cat Harkness wrote:I can understand XP, but why would ANYONE still be using VIsta????????????????????? Some people still believe rickrolling is a thing and still use AOL and/or dial-up.
Rickrolling IS still a thing.
I'm never gonna give it up. Never gonna let you down.
I support the New Order and CODE. alliance. www.minerbumping.com
Sabriz's Rule: "Any time someone argues for a game change claiming it is a quality of life change, the change is actually a game balance change".
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Primary This Rifter
SniggWaffe WAFFLES.
1180
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Posted - 2016.05.28 10:33:07 -
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Brokk Witgenstein wrote:The reason I use XP is because all my sh!t works, it's fast, reliable, easy to understand, easy to configure, maintenance-free and I like the non-bloated user interface (especially in legacy mode).
After 15 years it has reached a state of perfection - that's why there are no more updates. It's a finished product.
If my hardware doesn't change, and the programs I run don't change, then there is no need for my OS to change is there? Having been born after 1960, I really don't understand this sentiment at all. |
Elenahina
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
882
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Posted - 2016.05.28 10:44:59 -
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So quick question. How can I know if I'm using the old launcher or the new one? I'm already on win 7 so switching is fine but I do see the news links so I assume I'm on the new one. If I am on the new one then I'm good to go. It works fine for me.
Eve is like an addiction; you can't quit it until it quits you.
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Brokk Witgenstein
Extreme Agony The Wraithguard.
323
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Posted - 2016.05.28 11:45:06 -
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Primary This Rifter wrote:Brokk Witgenstein wrote:The reason I use XP is because all my sh!t works, it's fast, reliable, easy to understand, easy to configure, maintenance-free and I like the non-bloated user interface (especially in legacy mode).
After 15 years it has reached a state of perfection - that's why there are no more updates. It's a finished product.
If my hardware doesn't change, and the programs I run don't change, then there is no need for my OS to change is there? Having been born after 1960, I really don't understand this sentiment at all.
It can only add insult to the injury of getting shot by me ;-) |
Mykale Kwijybow
Moosearmy I N F A M O U S
0
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Posted - 2016.06.01 01:06:16 -
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Linus Gorp wrote:Resinball wrote:IF YOU CANT USE THE WINDOWS 10 FREE UPGRADE (Even from HACKED Versions this WORKS!!!!) YOU'RE Doing it wrong. Not everyone wants to put up with that ****. UI ****, system **** and it's pretty much the biggest privacy nightmare on this planet. I'll stick with 7 (used exclusively for gaming and without all these "critical" telemetry / anti-privacy updates) until EVE stops supporting it. And when that happens I'll either find a decent alternative that I can get along with (Wine isn't one... I won't cripple GodsOS with that **** and won't put up with the security nightmare) or stop playing EVE.
I couldn't agree more. If CCP discontinues support for Windows 7, I will stop playing EVE. I am already considering going PS4 instead of buying a new PC, as I completely disagree with the Windows 10 ideology.
"Give a man a bullet and he'll want a gun. Give a man a gun and he'll give away bullets"
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Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite CODE.
2550
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Posted - 2016.06.01 01:54:09 -
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Mykale Kwijybow wrote: I couldn't agree more. If CCP discontinues support for Windows 7, I will stop playing EVE. I am already considering going PS4 instead of buying a new PC, as I completely disagree with the Windows 10 ideology.
There is now an "unofficial" native linux launcher provided by CCP Snorlax if you are looking for an alternative way to play EVE. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=482663&find=unread
the Code ALWAYS wins
Elite PvPer, #74 in 2014
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Atum
Eclipse Industrials Quantum Forge
121
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Posted - 2016.06.01 15:37:37 -
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Ima Wreckyou wrote:Mykale Kwijybow wrote: I couldn't agree more. If CCP discontinues support for Windows 7, I will stop playing EVE. I am already considering going PS4 instead of buying a new PC, as I completely disagree with the Windows 10 ideology.
There is now an "unofficial" native linux launcher provided by CCP Snorlax if you are looking for an alternative way to play EVE. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=482663&find=unread Very cool. I realize changing graphics APIs is a royal PITA, but with Microsoft going in the direction they are, and WINE being a wrapper, perhaps for the next engine overhaul CCP ought to think of moving to Vulkan instead of DirectX. |
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