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Pix Severus
Empty You
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Posted - 2016.05.14 11:21:00 -
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Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:The wiki was full of outdated and sometimes just flat out misinformation that did nothing but screw over players trying to learn
The solution to this was actually quite simple, and didn't require taking down the entire thing.
Simply put the line "This article may be outdated and/or incorrect" in large, noticable text at the top of the page.
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Joia Crenca
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
290
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Posted - 2016.05.19 15:04:15 -
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Pix Severus wrote:Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:The wiki was full of outdated and sometimes just flat out misinformation that did nothing but screw over players trying to learn The solution to this was actually quite simple, and didn't require taking down the entire thing. Simply put the line "This article may be outdated and/or incorrect" in large, noticable text at the top of the page.
Exactly.
Lore and detail are important for world-building. World-building creates a more interesting environment for players in that world. To remain consistent, it generally needs to be done by someone with a vested, long-term interest in that world and game. |
Arkoth 24
Phayder
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Posted - 2016.06.15 10:12:55 -
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Sustrai Aditua wrote:I knew, given time, this thread would grow to rival EVE-lo-peedia... Instead of building a threadnaught, why not build another informational site? No. WAIT! You want someone ELSE to do it! I GET IT! For a reason. I'm too lame in web-codin' by myself and quite not sure 'bout building new wiki on some pre-made engine for a reason described here:
Alexandros Balfros wrote:To be fair you're probably better off just using the SDE and coding something from the ground up, the issue with evelopedia is the pages were static, they had to be manually updated whereas using the SDE all you do is update the database and bam your "wiki" is already up to date with ship stats, item names and more :P But, if i'll have enough time for it, may be i'll take a try. Anyway, it looks like community accepted CCP's choice, and new wiki may become just my very own toy for myself only. |
Samira Kernher
Praetorian Auxiliary Force Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2016.06.15 11:03:51 -
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CCP are already working on a replacement for the lore part of EVElopedia. The biggest issue is that EVElopedia was taken down before the replacement could be made.
Mechanics details will remain a third party thing though. |
Kolodi Ramal
Sanxing
75
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Posted - 2016.06.16 02:53:42 -
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Samira Kernher wrote:CCP are already working on a replacement for the lore part of EVElopedia. I'll believe it when I see it. inb4 one year from now we still don't have it. |
Velarra
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Posted - 2016.06.16 04:16:00 -
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Main page http://web.archive.org/web/20160227175748/https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Main_Page
The lore & fiction http://web.archive.org/web/20160227180049/https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Portal:EVE_Fiction |
Geronimo McVain
McVain's Minning and Exploration Inc
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Posted - 2016.06.16 06:38:23 -
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Samira Kernher wrote:CCP are already working on a replacement for the lore part of EVElopedia. The biggest issue is that EVElopedia was taken down before the replacement could be made.
Mechanics details will remain a third party thing though. I really don't believe it. Evelopedia was just some webspace with virtually no costs for CCP. Why should they take something down that costs no money and angers the community when they are working on an replacement? Doesn't make sense only when they realized that they made an mistake and in that case to put evelopedia back online would be a simple task for some web admin. Best example of how bad this idea was are the Force Auxiliaries. Try to find them on Uni Wiki. Force Auxiliaries you just can't find and if you search for the ship name you get a stump with just the lore and no stats at all. And Uni Wiki is THE recommended site by CCP as an evelopedia replacement. EVE without a manual is a really bad idea! CCP should create and refresh the side and just open it up to comments. They need the documentation for internal use anyway.
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Caleb Seremshur
The Atomic Fallout Kids
820
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Posted - 2016.06.16 08:12:28 -
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Geronimo McVain wrote:Samira Kernher wrote:CCP are already working on a replacement for the lore part of EVElopedia. The biggest issue is that EVElopedia was taken down before the replacement could be made.
Mechanics details will remain a third party thing though. I really don't believe it. Evelopedia was just some webspace with virtually no costs for CCP. Why should they take something down that costs no money and angers the community when they are working on an replacement? Doesn't make sense only when they realized that they made an mistake and in that case to put evelopedia back online would be a simple task for some web admin. Best example of how bad this idea was are the Force Auxiliaries. Try to find them on Uni Wiki. Force Auxiliaries you just can't find and if you search for the ship name you get a stump with just the lore and no stats at all. And Uni Wiki is THE recommended site by CCP as an evelopedia replacement. EVE without a manual is a really bad idea! CCP should create and refresh the side and just open it up to comments. They need the documentation for internal use anyway.
Maybe the point is to destroy a knowledge base of mission and complex data that erodes some of the mystery of the game. It could be because people keep railing on them for how outdated and lame so much of the pve is. It could be for technical issues. It could be for financial reasons. It could be simple misanthropy. It makes no sense that much worse websites are left intact and online like the godawful spacejam site from the 90's while evelopedia which contains an appreciable amount of community and employee constructed data is removed with weak reasoning.
Personally I think it its all those things I mentioned. It's suspicious at best and incompetent at worst. |
Arkoth 24
Phayder
185
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Posted - 2016.06.23 09:08:19 -
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Samira Kernher wrote:The biggest issue is that EVElopedia was taken down before the replacement could be made. Looks like a kind of habbit:
- take down Wiki before make any replacement and ask users to make their own;
- take down browser with no replacement at all and let third-perty devs clear up the mess;
- swith off Dust and say that someday it will be replaced with some other project. |
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