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NUMSTER
Royal Ordnance Co.
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Posted - 2016.03.03 13:42:09 -
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Main Skills: Mining V ---- + 25% to yield Astrogeology V ---- + 25% to yield Mining Barge V ---- + 15% to yield of barges and exhumers Exhumer V ---- + 15% to yield of exhumers Mining Foreman V ---- + 10% to yield must be in squadron Drone Interfacing V ---- +100% to yield of mining drones Mining Drone Operation V ---- + 25% to yield of mining drones
Skills For Items: (not listing all skills needed) Mining Crystals II ---- +16,17% (T2) to yield compared to T1 strips - usually skill level 4 Mining Laser Upgrades II ----- +5% to yield per MLU
Implants: HX-1 Highwall ---- (slot 10) + 5% to yield Michi Excavation ---- (slot 7) + 5% to yield
Is this still the standard? Did I miss anything ?
Thanks in advance for any help !!!!
Fly Safe |
Kiddoomer
Deep Space Exploitation Federal United Battalion of Armed Renegades
92
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Posted - 2016.03.03 13:48:50 -
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Except boosts there's everything, maybe you could add the rigs for the mining drones, although the CPU drawback is nasty on a mining ship.
A survey scanner tweak and new mining methods: interactive mining
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Paranoid Loyd
8578
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Posted - 2016.03.03 14:33:24 -
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The only perfect miner is a dead one.
Fix the Prospect! New Server Hardware!
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Iain Cariaba
2745
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Posted - 2016.03.03 14:38:41 -
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NUMSTER wrote:Main Skills: Mining V ---- + 25% to yield Astrogeology V ---- + 25% to yield Mining Barge V ---- + 15% to yield of barges and exhumers Exhumer V ---- + 15% to yield of exhumers Mining Foreman V ---- + 10% to yield must be in squadron Drone Interfacing V ---- +100% to yield of mining drones Mining Drone Operation V ---- + 25% to yield of mining drones
Skills For Items: (not listing all skills needed) Mining Crystals II ---- +16,17% (T2) to yield compared to T1 strips - usually skill level 4 Mining Laser Upgrades II ----- +5% to yield per MLU
Implants: HX-1 Highwall ---- (slot 10) + 5% to yield Michi Excavation ---- (slot 7) + 5% to yield
Is this still the standard? Did I miss anything ?
Thanks in advance for any help !!!!
Fly Safe Depends on what system you habitually mine in. Please tell us so we can let you know if your skill plan is correct.
EvE is hard. It's harder if you're stupid.
I couldn't have said it better.
Hello, Mr Carebear. Would you like some cheese with that whine?
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Yarosara Ruil
Haighare Pirates
134
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Posted - 2016.03.03 14:45:13 -
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Fly a Procurer or don't even bother. |
Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite CODE.
2331
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Posted - 2016.03.03 16:38:13 -
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The list lacks the mining permit you will require to mine in New Order territory (Highsec).
the Code ALWAYS wins
Elite PvPer, #74 in 2014
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Gliese Casserres
Fistful of Finns Paisti Syndicate
50
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Posted - 2016.03.03 17:03:11 -
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Perfect miner is 0 SP in mining. Stop min-maxing something that has no future in it. |
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
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Posted - 2016.03.03 17:08:01 -
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You can't be a perfect race car driver without the car.
By the same token, you can't be a perfect miner if you have no ship. And you won't have one for long if you don't add some tanking skills to that list.
Mr Epeen
There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass!
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ZZWolf47
KillRapeandSteel LLC
8
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Posted - 2016.03.03 17:27:19 -
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NUMSTER wrote:Main Skills: Mining V ---- + 25% to yield Astrogeology V ---- + 25% to yield Mining Barge V ---- + 15% to yield of barges and exhumers Exhumer V ---- + 15% to yield of exhumers Mining Foreman V ---- + 10% to yield must be in squadron Drone Interfacing V ---- +100% to yield of mining drones Mining Drone Operation V ---- + 25% to yield of mining drones
Skills For Items: (not listing all skills needed) Mining Crystals II ---- +16,17% (T2) to yield compared to T1 strips - usually skill level 4 Mining Laser Upgrades II ----- +5% to yield per MLU
Implants: HX-1 Highwall ---- (slot 10) + 5% to yield Michi Excavation ---- (slot 7) + 5% to yield
Is this still the standard? Did I miss anything ?
Thanks in advance for any help !!!!
Fly Safe
I have noticed in one of the patches the mining drones do not get any bonuses from the drone skill(s)listed above... they also do not show bonuses inside drone bay or outside drone bay... |
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
11080
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Posted - 2016.03.03 18:37:08 -
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PERFECT MINER:
Right click, "buy"
Got a HoleySheet1 corpse? I'll buy it for 200m!
Bumble's Space Log
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Amarrchecko
Hedion University Amarr Empire
93
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Posted - 2016.03.03 18:56:23 -
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ZZWolf47 wrote:NUMSTER wrote:Main Skills: Mining V ---- + 25% to yield Astrogeology V ---- + 25% to yield Mining Barge V ---- + 15% to yield of barges and exhumers Exhumer V ---- + 15% to yield of exhumers Mining Foreman V ---- + 10% to yield must be in squadron Drone Interfacing V ---- +100% to yield of mining drones Mining Drone Operation V ---- + 25% to yield of mining drones
Skills For Items: (not listing all skills needed) Mining Crystals II ---- +16,17% (T2) to yield compared to T1 strips - usually skill level 4 Mining Laser Upgrades II ----- +5% to yield per MLU
Implants: HX-1 Highwall ---- (slot 10) + 5% to yield Michi Excavation ---- (slot 7) + 5% to yield
Is this still the standard? Did I miss anything ?
Thanks in advance for any help !!!!
Fly Safe I have noticed in one of the patches the mining drones do not get any bonuses from the drone skill(s)listed above... they also do not show bonuses inside drone bay or outside drone bay...
They do get bonuses from mining drone operation and drone interfacing. Interfacing is only +10% per level now.
Mining barge and exhumers skills give reduction in cycle time, which isn't the same as a yield bonus. Also, the amount of the bonus is different depending on which barge/Exhumer you're in.
Mining laser upgrades gives reduction in CPU cost to the modules, not yield bonus.
There are implants and rigs for ice and mercoxit you didn't list.
Boosts are a thing but they aren't strictly part of the miner itself. |
Kiddoomer
Deep Space Exploitation Federal United Battalion of Armed Renegades
92
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Posted - 2016.03.03 19:22:39 -
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Amarrchecko wrote: Mining laser upgrades gives reduction in CPU cost to the modules, not yield bonus.
Huh, MLU do give more yield, BUT they make each strip miner cost more CPU .
A survey scanner tweak and new mining methods: interactive mining
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Pix Severus
Empty You
3384
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Posted - 2016.03.03 19:27:11 -
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I notice a distinct lack of tanking skills in that list.
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Kiddoomer
Deep Space Exploitation Federal United Battalion of Armed Renegades
92
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Posted - 2016.03.03 19:52:14 -
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Pix Severus wrote:I notice a distinct lack of tanking skills in that list.
Totally useless on a retriever, Covetor or Hulk, and somewhat useless on the Mackinaw.
A survey scanner tweak and new mining methods: interactive mining
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Yarosara Ruil
Haighare Pirates
136
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Posted - 2016.03.03 20:40:05 -
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Kiddoomer wrote:Totally useless on a retriever, Covetor or Hulk, and somewhat useless on the Mackinaw.
And on that note, you don't need Mining Lasers when you're fitting Reinforced Bulkheads on your Low Slots, so you can scratch that skill from the list.
Yield is overrated anyways.
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Amarrchecko
Hedion University Amarr Empire
93
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Posted - 2016.03.03 21:33:13 -
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Kiddoomer wrote:Amarrchecko wrote: Mining laser upgrades gives reduction in CPU cost to the modules, not yield bonus.
Huh, MLU do give more yield, BUT they make each strip miner cost more CPU .
He and I were both talking about the skill, not the item. |
Amarrchecko
Hedion University Amarr Empire
94
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Posted - 2016.03.03 21:36:52 -
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Gankers must be behind on their quotas to be in here trolling people with tank fit ideas. All the real miners know avoiding the gankers, not tanking your ship, is how to avoid 95% of ganks |
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
11082
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Posted - 2016.03.03 22:08:50 -
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Amarrchecko wrote:Gankers must be behind on their quotas to be in here trolling people with tank fit ideas. All the real miners know avoiding the gankers, not tanking your ship, is how to avoid 95% of ganks
...which 95% of them will not now, or ever, know or implement.
Got a HoleySheet1 corpse? I'll buy it for 200m!
Bumble's Space Log
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Zifrian
Licentia Ex Vereor Phoebe Freeport Republic
1712
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Posted - 2016.03.04 02:23:33 -
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Drones Rigging 5 for mining drone yield and CPU penalty reduction.
GÇ£Any fool can criticize, condemn, and complain - and most fools do.GÇ¥ - Dale Carnegie
Industry guy, third-party developer, jack-of-all-trades - master of none
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Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
4408
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Posted - 2016.03.04 03:30:40 -
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Don't even bother bro. Long ago, people used to choose mining as a profession. They were usually the math/tech guys who enjoyed the challenge of trying to quantifiable maximize every possible factor in some nebulous equation of Seconds ingame:ISK yield. Including time spent hauling or selling on local spot market. Or contracting the hauling of a giant load of mins vs. training upr for and investing in a mega hauler, and flying it to hub. And the risk vs. benefit considerations of low sec/WH mining.
It used to be a profession for a certain type of mathematical-logical oriented kind of guy. Of course, if you made too many bad decisions along the way, you could find yourself bankrupt. Or at least in a setback, of your own fault.
Today: Miner is a n00b (and mostly is a new-ish player). Target, bottom of the inflatable balls pecking order, "isk farmer," "should have known better," etc. I wouldn't bother OP. Wait, not right-- if you want to do that, a lot of the miner optimizing challenges are probably still available in null Sov space.
What would Syd Barrett do?
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Iain Cariaba
2747
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Posted - 2016.03.04 03:45:54 -
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Khergit Deserters wrote:a lot of the miner optimizing challenges are probably still available in null Sov space. Pretty much this. If you really want to undertake the most boring aspect of EvE, it's far safer to do it in nullsec.
EvE is hard. It's harder if you're stupid.
I couldn't have said it better.
Hello, Mr Carebear. Would you like some cheese with that whine?
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GetSirrus
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
105
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Posted - 2016.03.04 05:40:50 -
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at OP.
Not assuming a phish post for lame ducks. (if it quacks etc etc). hint: There are none.
Don't touch michi with a barge pole. (sic) The purchase of will get you onto a watchlist for a kill squad and expensive loss. At 1.4bil isk the 5% ore gain will never pay for itself anyway.
MX-1005 is the 5% flavor in highwall. You will also need to train cybernetics 5.
Mining drones require micro-management, skip those. Better to scouts and some utility drones for fun times.
Skip exhumer and foreman - jump right to refine and refine eff. Ore is worthless without decent refine. NPC station refining is currently broken anyway.
Considering mining is to date the most removed skill under the new trading, I will go with my first thought. |
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