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Sawdeth Alumini
Remember The Fallen. Starkmanir Unification
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Posted - 2016.03.04 18:34:38 -
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The title says it all. I personally have had enough of capsuleers ganking miners during a run. Well someone has gotta step up to deal with this. If anyone is hiring security personnel to protect their assets during mining ops, look no further. Private Security for hire. Eve mail me if you need your own private security.
My experience with crime and punishment in RL: I am getting a job as a loss prevention officer and need to practice my skills before the interview next week. |
Dom Arkaral
Gate Is Red Complaints Department
107
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Posted - 2016.03.04 18:41:58 -
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Sawdeth Alumini wrote:The title says it all. I personally have had enough of capsuleers ganking miners during a run. Well someone has gotta step up to deal with this. If anyone is hiring security personnel to protect their assets during mining ops, look no further. Private Security for hire. Eve mail me if you need your own private security.
My experience with crime and punishment in RL: I am getting a job as a loss prevention officer and need to practice my skills before the interview next week. Admiral Foxbolt, is that you?
Merc. Tear Gatherer. Quebecker
I have no Honer (truly)
Attache ta tuque avec d'la broche!
Salt Harvesting Level CCCXV
Save me from myself. #broadcast4reps when you're in need o7
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Sawdeth Alumini
Remember The Fallen. Starkmanir Unification
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Posted - 2016.03.05 04:19:28 -
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Dom Arkaral wrote:Sawdeth Alumini wrote:The title says it all. I personally have had enough of capsuleers ganking miners during a run. Well someone has gotta step up to deal with this. If anyone is hiring security personnel to protect their assets during mining ops, look no further. Private Security for hire. Eve mail me if you need your own private security.
My experience with crime and punishment in RL: I am getting a job as a loss prevention officer and need to practice my skills before the interview next week. Admiral Foxbolt, is that you?
but unfortunately I am not him. |
Pix Severus
Empty You
3406
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Posted - 2016.03.05 05:02:06 -
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The problem with protecting miners during mining ops is that its as boring as mining itself. In fact, you don't even get to see ore enter your cargohold, so you could argue that its even more boring than mining.
-ì-ä-à -£-à+¦-äGêâ-Ç
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Ozzie Udan
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2016.03.05 08:08:49 -
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Sawdeth Alumini wrote:The title says it all. I personally have had enough of capsuleers ganking miners during a run. Well someone has gotta step up to deal with this. If anyone is hiring security personnel to protect their assets during mining ops, look no further. Private Security for hire. Eve mail me if you need your own private security.
My experience with crime and punishment in RL: I am getting a job as a loss prevention officer and need to practice my skills before the interview next week.
Good luck with both your job and eve
A soft answer turneth away wrath. Once wrath is looking the other way, shoot it in the head.
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Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite CODE.
2351
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Posted - 2016.03.05 12:21:56 -
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Sounds like a protection racket to me.
the Code ALWAYS wins
Elite PvPer, #74 in 2014
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Sasha Nemtsov
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2016.03.05 13:03:11 -
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Sawdeth Alumini wrote:The title says it all. I personally have had enough of capsuleers ganking miners during a run. Well someone has gotta step up to deal with this. If anyone is hiring security personnel to protect their assets during mining ops, look no further. Private Security for hire. Eve mail me if you need your own private security.
Please see www.minerbumping.com for an abundantly helpful Reality Check. |
Omar Alharazaad
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
2773
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Posted - 2016.03.05 14:57:03 -
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Pix Severus wrote:The problem with protecting miners during mining ops is that its as boring as mining itself. In fact, you don't even get to see ore enter your cargohold, so you could argue that its even more boring than mining.
This here is some true bits. Some friends of mine and I did this in the way back... long before crimewatch or CODE. were things. We just did it because it made sense. Boredom killed it.
Unless your security force has access to some extremely entertaining comms, are highly paid, or both then you are going to see some very lackluster enthusiasm on their part when it comes to this kind of duty. It's boring work. REALLY REALLY boring work. Unless something happens. Then they either are johnny on the spot and do that thing they're paid to do post-haste... or they don't and the time and money sunk into the venture is lost.
It's possible for this to work, but realistically only if the guards are actually part of the organization that is doing the mining, and see some kind of tangible compensation for pulling this kind of crap duty. Mercs are going to charge more than the miners want to pay. Volunteers are gonna fall asleep or wander off. You need folks who have a vested interest in the success of the mining operation, and as such are willing to work on the cheap.
Even if you muster a crew that's down for this, they have to have their priorities in place for it to work. Gung ho idiots who are obsessed with killing teh enemas are useless in these situations... keeping the barges/haulers alive is the point, not scoring kills. Given that, your security crew has to have a realistically viable modus operandi.
Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.
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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
25981
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Posted - 2016.03.05 15:33:57 -
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Sawdeth Alumini wrote:Dom Arkaral wrote:Sawdeth Alumini wrote:The title says it all. I personally have had enough of capsuleers ganking miners during a run. Well someone has gotta step up to deal with this. If anyone is hiring security personnel to protect their assets during mining ops, look no further. Private Security for hire. Eve mail me if you need your own private security.
My experience with crime and punishment in RL: I am getting a job as a loss prevention officer and need to practice my skills before the interview next week. Admiral Foxbolt, is that you? [s]but un[/s[fortunately I am not him. Be thankful that you're not, that guy was seriously deluded and tried to monetise his corp.
Civilized behaviour is knowing that violence is barbaric, but paying other people to do it is business.
Nil mortifi sine lucre.
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Agondray
Avenger Mercenaries VOID Intergalactic Forces
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Posted - 2016.03.05 17:11:54 -
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Sawdeth Alumini wrote:The title says it all. I personally have had enough of capsuleers ganking miners during a run. Well someone has gotta step up to deal with this. If anyone is hiring security personnel to protect their assets during mining ops, look no further. Private Security for hire. Eve mail me if you need your own private security.
My experience with crime and punishment in RL: I am getting a job as a loss prevention officer and need to practice my skills before the interview next week.
unless your willing to gank the gankers as a lot of them have a positive status, some do have negative status, their times kill times are rather quick before you can even do anything so even the negative statuses will win....unless you want to kill every dd and bc in a system as people have told othes if you have a dd or bc on scan to dock and you wont be ganked
"Sarcasm is the Recourse of a weak mind." -Dr. Smith
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Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
11099
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Posted - 2016.03.05 22:51:26 -
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Pix Severus wrote:The problem with protecting miners during mining ops is that its as boring as mining itself. In fact, you don't even get to see ore enter your cargohold, so you could argue that its even more boring than mining.
You'll get so board protecting these parasitic environmental rapists you'll end up blowing them to smithereens just to relieve the monotony
Got a HoleySheet1 corpse? I'll buy it for 200m!
Bumble's Space Log
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Mike Adoulin
Adolescent Radioactive Pirate Hamsters
1676
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Posted - 2016.03.05 22:53:31 -
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The only time an in-corp 'security division' works is if you are doing your mining in null/wh/low sec.
Hi sec they die of boredom unless you do mining ops during wardecs.
I did see one mining corp do such a thing in a war, they had nothing but Procs and Skiffs, plus their 'escort' team.
They got jumped, and ironically the mining ships got all the kills...:)
But that is very rare, has only happened once in the 3 years since I got back into EVE.
Everything in EVE is a trap.
And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:)
You want to know what immorality in EVE Online looks like? Look no further than Ripard "Jester" Teg.
Chribba is the Chuck Norris of EVE.
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Tarojan
Tarojan Corporation
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Posted - 2016.03.05 23:49:10 -
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I'd have thought it extremely ineffective. Rather then sit there in an ecm scorp or a nado or whatever you decided to bring along, You'd be better in a tanked procurer mining yrself and use the isk your mining generates to replace their lost barges for them. With the added benefit that you would have to do re target the lasers every now and then, so at least you had something...anything... to do. You may well have thought of the one thing in eve online thats more boring and less interactive then high sec mining.
Will gank for food
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Sawdeth Alumini
Remember The Fallen. Starkmanir Unification
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Posted - 2016.03.06 03:01:57 -
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Sasha Nemtsov wrote:Sawdeth Alumini wrote:The title says it all. I personally have had enough of capsuleers ganking miners during a run. Well someone has gotta step up to deal with this. If anyone is hiring security personnel to protect their assets during mining ops, look no further. Private Security for hire. Eve mail me if you need your own private security. Please see www.minerbumping.com for an abundantly helpful Reality Check.
First you disappear then you return under a different but similar name? I actually thought you were gone for good. That doesn't matter now, what does matter as that as of this moment...gamis is looking like a celebrity tonight. |
Mike Adoulin
Adolescent Radioactive Pirate Hamsters
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Posted - 2016.03.06 04:19:41 -
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Our nipples are exploding with anticipation.
Excite us some more.
Everything in EVE is a trap.
And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:)
You want to know what immorality in EVE Online looks like? Look no further than Ripard "Jester" Teg.
Chribba is the Chuck Norris of EVE.
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Mobadder Thworst
Wiking Brigade The Devil's Warrior Alliance
899
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Posted - 2016.03.06 04:30:41 -
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Mike Adoulin wrote:Our nipples are exploding with anticipation. Excite us some more.
Only Mortlake can excite us more. |
Nitshe Razvedka
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2016.03.06 07:48:43 -
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Mobadder Thworst wrote:Mike Adoulin wrote:Our nipples are exploding with anticipation. Excite us some more. Only Mortlake can excite us more.
Dang iT! Mo! I knews you been role playing with ma black n white goat Mortlake. Now keeps out ma barn yard. Morts has 1 master ya hear.
Thieving pirates discuss INTEGRITY; Anarchist gankers give us LAWS; and Whoring merc's cry then blow off clients with INSULTS.
Up is down and down is up in the C&P Forum.
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Jacques d'Orleans
The Scope Gallente Federation
2651
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Posted - 2016.03.06 07:57:54 -
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Ima Wreckyou wrote:Sounds like a protection racket to me.
A clear sign that we need some RICO Laws in New Eden!
The beginning of the End
Skill injectors? Attempting to give a shyte: 0.5%
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Trevor Dalech
We pooped on your lawn Resonance.
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Posted - 2016.03.08 04:27:41 -
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I saw this in low sec once.
I see a mackinaw mining in a belt, I go over and kill it. A tengu decloaks right next to me, so I kill an incredibly fail fit tengu.
The protection setup has several flaws: 1) miners will feel safe, so instead of watching local and d-scan, and taking adequate measures to protect themselves, they start AFK mining. Seriously, in low sec don't mine if local isn't empty, especially not in a mackinaw. 2) the people doing the protection tend to fall asleep. The above mentioned tengu was cloaked in the belt, but only noticed me AFTER the mackinaw was already dead. 3) If protecting a miner (and presumably getting a cut of their profits) is good isk for you, then you suck at making isk. This may have to do with abysmal fitting and combat skills. |
Ro Fenrios
Armilies Corporation A Few Brave Men
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Posted - 2016.03.08 06:19:51 -
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In high sec this is incredibly difficult to do. I mean nothing stops you from doing it, but it is boring ordeal, the guard has to be on screen all the time and he has to be fast enough to prevent a gank. Ganks are often over in seconds unless we are talking about now dead hyperdunking. How exactly would you imagine this working?
Low sec is another story and just for a reference, we have guy who uses almost nothing but skiff for pvp. That battle skiff is approaching 40 kill marks already. We also used to bait in combat fitted mining ships in low when we had nothing to do. That kind of thing is fun, especially with carriers. |
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Shallanna Yassavi
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2016.03.08 08:24:06 -
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Step 1: Hulk fleet + combat support. Step 2: Whoops, leaked op. Step 3: Surprise, gankers!
A signature :o
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Calvari Sertan
Patriarch Of Destruction Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2016.03.10 05:47:32 -
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Ro Fenrios wrote:In high sec this is incredibly difficult to do. I mean nothing stops you from doing it, but it is boring ordeal, the guard has to be on screen all the time and he has to be fast enough to prevent a gank. Ganks are often over in seconds unless we are talking about now dead hyperdunking. How exactly would you imagine this working?
Low sec is another story and just for a reference, we have guy who uses almost nothing but skiff for pvp. That battle skiff is approaching 40 kill marks already. We also used to bait in combat fitted mining ships in low when we had nothing to do. That kind of thing is fun, especially with carriers.
It-¦s nice to see indy changing into pvp. |
Starrakatt
Run and Gun Mercenary Corps FETID
388
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Posted - 2016.03.10 06:31:21 -
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Fly tanked Macks and Procs.
Cheaper than hiring security.
It should solve a lot of your problems.
Sneaky bastard.
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pushdogg
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2016.03.10 07:53:01 -
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Sounds like the most boring facet of Eve...and then sitting down and watching it for hours on end. |
Kiddoomer
Deep Space Exploitation Federal United Battalion of Armed Renegades
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Posted - 2016.03.10 13:33:13 -
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Hum, why not put enough logistics ships in belt ? You can make perma cap-chain each other and repair all the time the miners, that way you dont have to not be afk. Instead of having to deal with highsec problems against gankers.
A survey scanner tweak and new mining methods: interactive mining
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Dom Arkaral
Gate Is Red Complaints Department
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Posted - 2016.03.10 14:01:06 -
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Starrakatt wrote:Fly tanked Macks and Procs.
Cheaper than hiring security.
It should solve a lot of your problems. 3 t2 cats is enough for even the blingiest tanky mack ;)
Merc. Tear Gatherer. Quebecker
I have no Honer (truly)
Attache ta tuque avec d'la broche!
Salt Harvesting Level CCCXV
Save me from myself. #broadcast4reps when you're in need o7
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Tarojan
Tarojan Corporation
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Posted - 2016.03.11 01:52:56 -
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Kiddoomer wrote:Hum, why not put enough logistics ships in belt ? You can make perma cap-chain each other and repair all the time the miners, that way you dont have to not be afk. Instead of having to deal with highsec problems against gankers.
Logi wouldn't work. Either they would get ganked or they just bring one extra cata and gank through the reps. Only thing that works afk would be ecm or smart bombs: both of which if you just got going off randomly will get you concorded when I fly next to you in a rookie ship and lol.
Will gank for food
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Barrogh Habalu
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
1103
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Posted - 2016.03.11 12:21:22 -
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Dom Arkaral wrote:Starrakatt wrote:Fly tanked Macks and Procs.
Cheaper than hiring security.
It should solve a lot of your problems. 3 t2 cats is enough for even the blingiest tanky mack ;) He probably meant Skiffs.
Future of T3 cruisers - multi-tool they aspired to be instead of sledgehammer they have become
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Amarrchecko
Hedion University Amarr Empire
104
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Posted - 2016.03.11 14:58:44 -
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Dom Arkaral wrote:Starrakatt wrote:Fly tanked Macks and Procs.
Cheaper than hiring security.
It should solve a lot of your problems. 3 t2 cats is enough for even the blingiest tanky mack ;)
Eh. There's more to it than the mining ship and the ganking ships.
A hulk with just t2 mods can get 26,000 EHP even if you're fitting omni resists. What do t2 catalysts do? 700 dps? So 12 seconds of DPS to kill the hulk? The cats would fail in .8 or above systems unless concord was spawned off grid... and they might even botch it sometimes in .7. |
Dom Arkaral
Gate Is Red Complaints Department
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Posted - 2016.03.11 15:11:45 -
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Amarrchecko wrote:Dom Arkaral wrote:Starrakatt wrote:Fly tanked Macks and Procs.
Cheaper than hiring security.
It should solve a lot of your problems. 3 t2 cats is enough for even the blingiest tanky mack ;) Eh. There's more to it than the mining ship and the ganking ships. A hulk with just t2 mods can get 26,000 EHP even if you're fitting omni resists. What do t2 catalysts do? 700 dps? So 12 seconds of DPS to kill the hulk? The cats would fail in .8 or above systems unless concord was spawned off grid... and they might even botch it sometimes in .7. They always prepull their systems, especially for blingy barges
Merc. Tear Gatherer. Quebecker
I have no Honer (truly)
Attache ta tuque avec d'la broche!
Salt Harvesting Level CCCXV
Save me from myself. #broadcast4reps when you're in need o7
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