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Selene Le'Cotiere
Amarr I-Omniscient-I
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Posted - 2008.01.21 00:43:00 -
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Originally by: NightF0x so what's your point? you want to be able to change names yet it offers nothing for the game except for the handful of role players that already put some thought into naming their characters when they started the game.
From a RP/Immersion point of view, I can see where it would be advantageous to make use of this service.
It would open up the possibility of somebody playing the "Matta Hari" type character... Accept one job, and when finished, change names and move on to the next one. In particular if the name change wasn't applied to the Employment/name history, as suggested by the OP. background checks could be made though using Locater Agents, giving them the additional option to perform background checks.
Just a few thoughts from my end. It seems like an idea that could pan out to be something. *** "Some would call me a Demon. Others, a Vampire. But if the truth be told, I'm a child of the moon and a Goddess among men." Free pint of blood for the Dev who agrees |
NightF0x
Gallente Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.01.21 02:30:00 -
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I understand how having an aliases can be advantageous to an RP situation but there will be those that want to change their name so often that they will abuse the system and make it nearly impossible to do a background search. The DEVs have responded in the past that they will not change names because they want people to have to live with their past and present actions in Eve. That's all if you guys want to continue debating something that will never happen then go ahead...i'm backing out so have fun.
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Danton Marcellus
Nebula Rasa Holdings
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Posted - 2008.01.21 06:19:00 -
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Originally by: NightF0x I understand how having an aliases can be advantageous to an RP situation but there will be those that want to change their name so often that they will abuse the system and make it nearly impossible to do a background search. The DEVs have responded in the past that they will not change names because they want people to have to live with their past and present actions in Eve. That's all if you guys want to continue debating something that will never happen then go ahead...i'm backing out so have fun.
Yes you take that defeatist attitude and leave the suggestions and idea forum, clearly you have no place here. This is a place for visionaries looking to improve the game, not for those of little faith coming here to put everyone else down for not representing the majority.
I'll continue debating this issue till the day I cancel my account thank you.
I think I've stated it already, shouldn't be too hard to give every character their own unique signature, which is their current character name and use that as the tracking beacon for anyone looking for their known aliases.
No-one would be able to hide from their past, you might overlook an old slight just glancing at local from time to time but any real nemesis you'd still have on your buddylist anyways, regardless of what name he goes by these days.
Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav!
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Danton Marcellus
Nebula Rasa Holdings
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Posted - 2008.01.23 22:54:00 -
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What about the scenario of someone getting their character deleted in a malignant hacking and can't get it back, they won't unless they're someone special in the public eye you know.
How about then getting at least the name back, grafted onto another pilot bought under the Isk for SP act?
Just a situation that cropped up, not to deviate from the original idea.
Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav!
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Angra Mainyu
Nebula Rasa Holdings Nebula Rasa
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Posted - 2008.01.23 23:10:00 -
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I support this idea. A friend has indeed had his account hacked, all assets and isk stolen, and his character deleted. I have flown with this individual for two years, and now he will have to either start a new character from scratch, or use a bought/given character with a completely different name. His old name was his in-game identity. It sucks that there is no mechanism for him to keep it.
I support the original argument as well.
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Kalamator
Minmatar Nebula Rasa Holdings Nebula Rasa
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Posted - 2008.01.26 00:24:00 -
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Edited by: Kalamator on 26/01/2008 00:30:16 Bumpage
To me, it doesn't make much sense that you can change your appearance (which, really, makes all of us RP'ers in a sense) when you want, but not your name?
And I'm wondering how many of the people who /signed/ are RP'ers? Because I fail to see how this proposed change would 'only' affect RP'ers?
Enlighten me, anyone?
In the face of my friend losing his character, I also support his wanting to get a character that is somewhere near where his old character was developmentally, and put his old name on it. It would be a little wierd calling him something else now
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Your Host
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Posted - 2008.01.26 00:41:00 -
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I WISH. I could change my name!! Too late
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Crador D'Miron
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Posted - 2008.01.29 14:08:00 -
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Edited by: Crador D''Miron on 29/01/2008 14:10:19 Agreed with idea. Voting for it with all hands. There IS already personal IDs on every char. Check API keys. Talking about reality - it is possible to change your name IRL for any purpose, INCLUDING crime or past shadows evading. Why could't it be used in EVE? Why can't i "fake" my documents, become Lulzpwner. Thus, i'll reset my positive standings to Empire corps, go to Guristas space to live there as mere criminal. And onliest way to "track" me will be deep background check through Security agents - like IRL.
IMHO that is good upgrade for RP behaving capabilities, salvation to ppl-with-wrong-names, increased realism and evolution of spying/diplomacy side of EVE.
Ye can add "time delay" to name change. Like it'll need 1 month to change your In-Game ID (as it takes IRL to "fake" your documents). Make it Chance-Based (with decreasing successeful chance each attempt). Double cost of name-change after each use. Introduce Security Agents with capabilities to check one's background in archives, just like "Locator" Agents.
P.S. Currently inability to change your In-Game IDs decreases game realism, as Real-Time-Updating Local chatroom.
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Polkageist
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Posted - 2008.01.31 00:41:00 -
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please CCP consider implemetig it with ambulation, to be able to change your name, once, maybe max 2 times in a 5 year basis. Make the old name stick to the bio or something so corp thieves cant run from ther preivious identities. I have near 6 mill sp and i am thinking about making a new char to get a satisfying name that i can really relate to. Its my life lol, eve is not just a game.
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Polkageist
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Posted - 2008.02.01 20:18:00 -
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a drunk bump.
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Danton Marcellus
Nebula Rasa Holdings
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Posted - 2008.02.05 00:41:00 -
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Nice to see some support even though it's drugrelated.
Not sure if it's mentioned but one negative side-effect of aliases could be losing agent standings, agents not recognizing or refusing to acknowledge affiliation with this new persona.
Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav!
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WardogX
Minmatar Outkasts
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Posted - 2008.02.05 02:07:00 -
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Edited by: WardogX on 05/02/2008 02:11:29
as long as you could see the players name followed by the nickname (maybe in "quotations") i dont think this could be exploited in anyway.
If all you could see if the nickname.. it would lead to exploitation on every level imaginable.. from macro'rs to copycat greifers (some mmos greifers mimic the name of others and start drama with everyone in an attempt to get the original name owner in trouble... guess it happens in this game too.. but its easier to find whos who in this game)so as long as the nickname didnt mask the original name.. I am all for this.
Example my name would look like
WardogX "Wardog"
Anyone can use the same nickname I would assume so the original name still has to take precidence over the nickname .. for searching, mails, bounty, etc etc... the nickname couldnt be anything more then visual frill.
I also think prefix "titles" would also work well along with this idea (titles granted as mission reward standing level, corporation custom titles (with limited characters of space), etc.. lots of ideas on how one could obtain titles)
ex. would look like (prefix title)(Name)("nickname")
Commander WardogX "Wardog"
These concept are all definitely more roleplayish then it is now.. you see stuff like this in other fantasy mmo's... some peoples names are 15 miles long. it gets out of hand so it would be easy to overdue in this game.. so tred carefully (also i am not endorsing 50 mile long names.. its drives me nutz) :) ... example some of those EQ games you see people walkin around with names arranged like this, pre-preffix, preffix, name,last name, suffix... ex.. King Revered Superman MrPwnage the Exalted ... superman is there original name and the rest is title fluff... please dont take EVE to a level of that! ....
Im into simple prefix titles and a nickname.. as long as the length of characters are limited and main name always is visible and takes precedence.
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Danton Marcellus
Nebula Rasa Holdings
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Posted - 2008.02.05 13:14:00 -
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Edited by: Danton Marcellus on 05/02/2008 13:14:39
My idea is more about having past aliases submitted to an a.k.a log much like employment history.
It should be the front tab whenever someone checked info on someone else, to avoid the hiding and possible impersonations and character assassination attempts.
Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav!
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Danton Marcellus
Nebula Rasa Holdings
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Posted - 2008.02.07 12:46:00 -
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It could even be a standings thing, you have to maintain a certain degree of recognition for your work with a certain faction to be able to 'hide' under your new name in a certain area or it will revert back to showing your old alias in that sector of space.
Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav!
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XFranc
Caldari Lucian Alliance
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Posted - 2008.02.07 13:18:00 -
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I would definately change my name. If only I had known.....
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Polkageist
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Posted - 2008.02.08 22:06:00 -
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/signed
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Danton Marcellus
Nebula Rasa Holdings
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Posted - 2008.02.13 04:42:00 -
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You can introduce all the new things you want but if the thing people get tired of is their age old character that they cannot switch out without a significant setback for themselves then they'll consider the other option.
Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav!
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Danton Marcellus
Nebula Rasa Holdings
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Posted - 2008.02.18 22:48:00 -
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How about a name generator on character creation? This to give us at least some EVE names when those synapses refuse to connect.
Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav!
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Danton Marcellus
Nebula Rasa Holdings
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Posted - 2008.02.25 07:32:00 -
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These days the way you tell an alt apart from someones main character is the alt has a good name, now that can't be what CCP intended when they wanted people to become immersed in EVE, main character named crapcan2 and then some elaborate bio and name for the hauler alt...
Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav!
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laurazine
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Posted - 2008.02.27 19:45:00 -
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Quote: Aliases, people come into EVE thinking they'll do the trial or just stay for a few hours then they're hooked and don't want to go back and create a new character or even won't see the added benefits of sporting a real name till much later. When they months later have grown dead tired of being Hugh Janus or Dao2 enter alias'!
To waste CCPÆs time (when they are busy ignoring everything that needs attention) with this rubbish is inexcusable. If youÆre not mature enough to give your Toon a decent name because you might not stay, then you deserve to be stuck with it.
Quote: I'd also like for there to be an on creation name generator, a tool to help those among us who know they can't think of an immersive name to save their lives.
I would agree that this would be a good idea as some do have a hard time coming up with a name that hasn't been used yet.
"The previously arriving feathered vertebrate procures the invertebrate crawler"
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Danton Marcellus
Nebula Rasa Holdings
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Posted - 2008.02.28 00:56:00 -
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People do grow up you know and I feel there should be an option for their characters to grow with them. Saying they should be stuck with a crap name 'cause they were unimaginative fools when they started out is way harsh.
My roleplaying days would've been shortlived had I been stuck with Sharky all those years.
Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav!
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cattleman
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Posted - 2008.02.28 04:02:00 -
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/signed
This very situation happened to me both in name and portrait. If you haven't noticed I'm the only one in about the entire game who didn't capitalize their name (thought no one else would stupid stupid stupid). So yeah a few minor changes would be nice.
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Ranek Starscream
Caldari principle of motion Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.03.10 14:33:00 -
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Originally by: NightF0x The reason that CCP doesn't want to implement this feature is because if you could change your name then you can elude your history. It would make corp theft easier and your history can't come back to haunt you like if can now. I wouldn't expect them allow this any time soon seeing as when they respond to similar requests they respond that they want you to worry about your gaming history and your actions within the game. Not only that but it would make corp/alliance spying a lot easier to get away with.
simple fix...name history. It's really not a stretch of the imagination to come up with fixes for any problems that may appear. I mean CCP could even have a nice little money maker if they allow name changes for rl money (there's a reason Blizzard have done it with WoW)
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RInama Sent
Shadow Of The Light
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Posted - 2008.03.10 16:03:00 -
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/signed You may have noticed that the second letter of my name is capitalized. This bugs the hell out of me, it drives me crazy but i didn't even notice till i had been playing for a month when i though it would be no big deal and didn't want to redo all my learning skills. I mean its just 1 letter.....you would think it would be easy to change 1 letter. 249.99 KM Locking? AF MK II |
Danton Marcellus
Nebula Rasa Holdings
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Posted - 2008.03.11 22:09:00 -
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Originally by: RInama Sent /signed You may have noticed that the second letter of my name is capitalized. This bugs the hell out of me, it drives me crazy but i didn't even notice till i had been playing for a month when i though it would be no big deal and didn't want to redo all my learning skills. I mean its just 1 letter.....you would think it would be easy to change 1 letter.
You see CCP, god is in the details, release this poor sould from her torment!
Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav!
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Astria Tiphareth
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2008.03.14 16:47:00 -
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I support the idea - quite a few other MMOs allow this, and there are plenty of ways to retain the history of the individual that ensure accurate checks can be made. Heck it's not like anyone genuinely cares about identity really when you can make alts to do your dirty work, which is also worth addressing.
I see two possibilities:
- Make it game-neutral: Changing name is applied by real cash, just has it listed in a name-history for all to see, and that's it.
- Make it part of the game: If you want to escape your past, you DO change your name & appearance, totally, without history, this costs a lot of ISK, and can be hunted down by suitably adept bounty hunters etc.
- (ok, three possibilities you pedants ) Have both.
It has zero impact on ISK farmers, as they re-roll names anyway; besides changing name for cash, game or real, is just not going to happen when a link is maintained to the old names in the database (it has to be either way for it to be findable by someone).
It has little impact for game intelligence or other issues as the funds required should be balanced to ensure this can't be done every day, and if you're going to research your members, you shouldn't be averse to an extra step to check their history anyway. ___ "If you can't debate using logic & fact, and at least recognise other people's point of view, don't waste time posting on forums. It only makes you look like a teenage idiot." |
Danton Marcellus
Nebula Rasa Holdings Nebula Rasa
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Posted - 2008.03.17 02:50:00 -
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There really is no downside to this proposal other than fear of change.
Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav!
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Lusulpher
Raddick Explorations Friend or Enemy
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Posted - 2008.03.17 08:19:00 -
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Originally by: Danton Marcellus There really is no downside to this proposal other than fear of change.
Pretty much, I love my name but this feature has merit for the unlucky players who mature due to playing EVE and those who decide to put a respectable last name instead of a digit.
Besides a good corp theif will sell his character and that will not be logged...unless this system includes it also
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Danton Marcellus
Nebula Rasa Holdings Nebula Rasa
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Posted - 2008.03.20 22:43:00 -
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Surely building ones character in an open-ended character building game as EVE one must surely be able to upgrade from say Captain Mistake to Admiral Mistake, or just realize ones mistake and remove the rank hardcoded into ones name.
Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav!
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Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2008.04.02 04:14:00 -
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Also I don't believe name history should be wiped if the character is traded. If I wish to hold a grudge to a character I may not care that it's under new ownership and I think it's in my right to not care either.
No amnesty, permanent record of known aliases.
Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav!
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