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CCP Snorlax
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2016.03.07 18:14:01 -
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In an effort to offer more officially supported ways to play EVE on Mac we are now providing support for Wine in addition to Cider. DonGÇÖt worry, weGÇÖre not simply posting a long page of instructions for you to set up Wine GÇô the launcher takes care of it all. To begin with we offer this as an alternative to the current solution GÇô you simply select it in the EVE Launcher Preferences. We will continue providing Cider, the current solution, until we are satisfied with Wine providing a similar experience.
What is Wine? As stated on www.winehq.org Wine is a compatibility layer capable of running Windows application on several POSIX-compliant operating systems, such as Linux, Mac OSX and BSD. Instead of simulating internal Windows logic like a virtual machine or emulator, Wine translates Windows API calls into POSIX calls on-the-fly, eliminating the performance and memory penalties of other methods and allowing you to cleanly integrate Windows applications into your desktop.
How do I try it? Make sure your launcher is up to date (version 1016420 or later). Select Preferences... from the EVE Launcher menu and select Wine for the wrapper.
Wine options You shouldn't have to change any Wine options, and these may change at any time as we get feedback. For now, the main option is what version of Wine should be used - we provide daily builds from the Wine git repository (git://source.winehq.org/git/wine.git). If you select 'Use dev versions' you can choose any of a number of recent daily builds, or to always use the latest one. If you leave the dev versions checkbox unchecked, you can select from stable builds that will have had some testing. The WINEDEBUG field allows you to set a value for the WINEDEBUG environment variable that controls debugging output from Wine. This can be useful for tracking down issues, but should in general be left empty.
What if it doesn't work? Go back to Preferences and select Cider for the wrapper, then everything should work as it did before. Please do tell us about it, either by posting in the feedback thread or by filing a bug report. Our goal is to offer additional officially supported ways to play EVE on the Mac and we need your feedback on this to do that.
CCP Snorlax - Software Architect - Team RnB - @CCP_Snorlax
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CCP Snorlax
C C P C C P Alliance
923
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Posted - 2016.03.07 18:21:03 -
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Known issues
- Settings profiles don't migrate automatically
- Launcher needs to be restarted after changing wrapper type
CCP Snorlax - Software Architect - Team RnB - @CCP_Snorlax
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Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
3774
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Posted - 2016.03.07 18:47:09 -
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It did not work. I set it to Wine; version: Latest. It downloaded a bunch of stuff, copied stuff, and eventually settled down, and looked just like the launcher normally does. I tried to start a session. The little white triangle by the name of one of my accounts turned into a square when I clicked on it, just like normal. Nothing further happened for abut a minute. Then the square turned back to a triangle. No session of Eve started. I switched it back to Cider, and the session did start when I wanted it to. I tried Wine again, and it still failed.
In the above, whenever it failed, I would close and re-open the launcher, and try a second time. The fails were always fails.
BTW, I hope this works out, and thanks for working on it. Those using Wine seem to like it, so I am looking forward to being able to dump Cider forever and ever.
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Shock Lee
Intergalactic Stonecutters
0
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Posted - 2016.03.07 18:56:11 -
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My launcher reports to be v.2.2.999545 - any idea how to get that updated to the newest version?
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Dave-C Patrouette
Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde
0
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Posted - 2016.03.07 19:14:31 -
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I run eve on mac os x in wine religiously, and was wondering if there is a place to report the wine-mac bugs? For currently if your probe window is windowed and not fullscreen there is significant flickering of the probe window. I also compile/build my own wine from scratch and try to report bugs to the wine crew. |
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CCP Darwin
C C P C C P Alliance
2008
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Posted - 2016.03.07 19:18:58 -
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Dave-C Patrouette wrote:I run eve on mac os x in wine religiously, and was wondering if there is a place to report the wine-mac bugs? If you're using the procedure CCP Snorlax posted to install and run the WINE version for Mac, please use the in-game bug reporter, or if necessary our bug reporting web page.
CCP Darwin GÇó Senior Technical Artist, EVE Online GÇó @mark_wilkins
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Manssell
OmiHyperMultiNationalDrunksConglomerate Together We Solo
297
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Posted - 2016.03.07 19:48:04 -
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Holly mother of unpronounceable Icelandic gods, this is what the game is supposed to look like!
Launcher updated fine and the switchover to Wine worked fine for me. Will bug report tonight from in-game any problems I get.
THANK YOU cold northern people. |
Limyh Oteo
BAND of MAGNUS THE R0NIN
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Posted - 2016.03.07 20:00:52 -
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Will give this a try - your effort is much appreciated CCP guys and gals! |
Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
3774
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Posted - 2016.03.07 20:02:45 -
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As it did not work for me, I'm wondering if I am missing something. Does telling the launcher to use Wine result in it downloading EVERYTHING needed to run Eve under Wine, including Wine, like it does for Cider? Or do I need to go to the Wine website and download other stuff as well?
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CCP Maxwell
C C P C C P Alliance
91
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Posted - 2016.03.07 20:14:40 -
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Vincent Athena wrote:As it did not work for me, I'm wondering if I am missing something. Does telling the launcher to use Wine result in it downloading EVERYTHING needed to run Eve under Wine, including Wine, like it does for Cider? Or do I need to go to the Wine website and download other stuff as well?
The launcher should take care of everything.
It would be interesting to see your logs.
CCP Maxwell - QA Engineer - Team RnB
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Kenneth Feld
Habitual Euthanasia Pandemic Legion
334
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Posted - 2016.03.07 20:31:37 -
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Anything that helps Mac and Linux at all, is very welcome by the Mac OSX community |
Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
3774
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Posted - 2016.03.07 20:46:32 -
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CCP Maxwell wrote:Vincent Athena wrote:As it did not work for me, I'm wondering if I am missing something. Does telling the launcher to use Wine result in it downloading EVERYTHING needed to run Eve under Wine, including Wine, like it does for Cider? Or do I need to go to the Wine website and download other stuff as well? The launcher should take care of everything. It would be interesting to see your logs.
You mean evelogs.log? Where should I send it?
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Katrina Bekers
Rim Collection RC The Old Guard.
248
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Posted - 2016.03.07 20:48:52 -
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As an EVE player since Trinity offered semi-native support of Linux thru Cedega, then discontinued it and unofficially helping all us WINE orphans get our EVE fix thru the many, many years of Linux gaming, I wish to thank Snorlax, CCP, and everyone involved for a GREAT news for the Mac cousins, and EVE at large.
There's hope even for us linuxers!
My tip is hatted.
And Snorlax has still a box of beer with his name paid, for when I'll meet it at Fanfest.
<< THE RABBLE BRIGADE >>
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CCP Snorlax
C C P C C P Alliance
930
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Posted - 2016.03.07 20:54:47 -
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Vincent Athena wrote:CCP Maxwell wrote:Vincent Athena wrote:As it did not work for me, I'm wondering if I am missing something. Does telling the launcher to use Wine result in it downloading EVERYTHING needed to run Eve under Wine, including Wine, like it does for Cider? Or do I need to go to the Wine website and download other stuff as well? The launcher should take care of everything. It would be interesting to see your logs. You mean evelogs.log? Where should I send it? There are files called launcherlogs-timestamp.txt - unfortunately I don't have a Mac at home and don't remember where they're located. Probably /Library/Application Support/CCP/EVE/Launcher, or something like that. Put them in a Dropbox or Google Drive and send me the link in EVE mail - don't post it here, the logs may have more detail than you're comfortable with posting publically.
CCP Snorlax - Software Architect - Team RnB - @CCP_Snorlax
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Invisusira
Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance
324
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Posted - 2016.03.07 20:58:14 -
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oh man can't wait to try this out when I get home
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Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
3774
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Posted - 2016.03.07 21:05:07 -
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CCP Snorlax wrote: There are files called launcherlogs-timestamp.txt - unfortunately I don't have a Mac at home and don't remember where they're located. Probably /Library/Application Support/CCP/EVE/Launcher, or something like that. Put them in a Dropbox or Google Drive and send me the link in EVE mail - don't post it here, the logs may have more detail than you're comfortable with posting publically.
I don't have those set up, I'll go do that. In the meantime, here are the last few lines of a launcherlog:
2016-03-07T12:50:22.239Zwineerror"err:seh:setup_exception_record stack overflow 1008 bytes in thread 000b eip 98823866 esp 00240f40 stack 0x240000-0x241000-0x340000" 2016-03-07T12:50:22.239Zdefaultdebug"" 2016-03-07T12:50:22.303Zwineerror"err:module:attach_process_dlls \"gdi32.dll\" failed to initialize, aborting" 2016-03-07T12:50:22.303Zwineerror"err:module:LdrInitializeThunk Main exe initialization for L\"C:\\\\tq\\\\bin\\\\exefile.exe\" failed, status c000001d" 2016-03-07T12:50:22.303Zdefaultdebug"" 2016-03-07T12:50:22.306ZdefaultdebugProcess 11021 finished with exit code 29 2016-03-07T12:51:38.767ZdefaultdebugEVE Launcher closing, 0 client(s) still running 2016-03-07T12:51:39.235ZdefaultdebugClosing WebGui 2016-03-07T12:51:39.235ZdefaultdebugCustomWebPage destructor done
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Limyh Oteo
BAND of MAGNUS THE R0NIN
2
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Posted - 2016.03.07 21:29:01 -
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It is working very well for me - among the highlights:
+ single application window - no more 2 windows per account if I open the IGB + performance - at least for me on my 2014 Retina MacBook Pro the performance bump is visible + No need to install anything - seamless change to wine - restart launcher and it worked
on the down side: - settings did not migrate - but totally worth it.... |
Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
3774
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Posted - 2016.03.07 22:03:47 -
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Limyh Oteo wrote:........... - one additional minus - can't use mac keyboard shortcuts -command + c and command +v or command + q. I can live without them, but if at all possible - those would be nice. Still totally worth it. + addtional plus - IGB does not get stuck on the black screen. At least it has not for me. Do the PC versions work, where you use control instead of command?
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CCP Snorlax
C C P C C P Alliance
933
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Posted - 2016.03.07 22:29:01 -
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Vincent Athena wrote:Limyh Oteo wrote:........... - one additional minus - can't use mac keyboard shortcuts -command + c and command +v or command + q. I can live without them, but if at all possible - those would be nice. Still totally worth it. + addtional plus - IGB does not get stuck on the black screen. At least it has not for me. Do the PC versions work, where you use control instead of command? Control key ought to work. I'll see what I can do about enabling Command key as well.
CCP Snorlax - Software Architect - Team RnB - @CCP_Snorlax
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Lizzie Lefthand Marstolt
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
12
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Posted - 2016.03.07 22:38:59 -
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Amazing work! |
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Lizzie Lefthand Marstolt
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
13
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Posted - 2016.03.07 23:31:23 -
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Except too bad I couldn't get it to work yet myself... Submitted bug report: EBR-71036 |
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CCP Snorlax
C C P C C P Alliance
934
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Posted - 2016.03.07 23:37:54 -
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Lizzie Lefthand Marstolt wrote:Except too bad I couldn't get it to work yet myself... Submitted bug report: EBR-71036 Are you on OS X 10.9 by any chance?
CCP Snorlax - Software Architect - Team RnB - @CCP_Snorlax
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Lizzie Lefthand Marstolt
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
13
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Posted - 2016.03.07 23:45:55 -
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iMac (late 2009) / Yosemite 10.10.5 3.06 GHz core 2 duo 8 gb ddr3 Nvidia geforce 9400 |
Leora Risalo
21 Inc Alternate Allegiance
2
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Posted - 2016.03.08 00:27:37 -
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Could you please post a guide for newbies? i ve never used wine and experience issues with native mac client. Id rather try out this new option prior installing windows |
Invisusira
Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance
324
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Posted - 2016.03.08 00:30:21 -
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Vincent Athena wrote:It did not work. I set it to Wine; version: Latest. It downloaded a bunch of stuff, copied stuff, and eventually settled down, and looked just like the launcher normally does. I tried to start a session. The little white triangle by the name of one of my accounts turned into a square when I clicked on it, just like normal. Nothing further happened for abut a minute. Then the square turned back to a triangle. No session of Eve started. I switched it back to Cider, and the session did start when I wanted it to. I tried Wine again, and it still failed.
In the above, whenever it failed, I would close and re-open the launcher, and try a second time. The fails were always fails.
BTW, I hope this works out, and thanks for working on it. Those using Wine seem to like it, so I am looking forward to being able to dump Cider forever and ever. Exact same issue here. If you could let me know where the logs are, that would be great - not having any luck finding any logs here.
OSX 10.8.5 2.7 Ghz i5 iMac
edit: my bug report. are we even being serious right now lmao
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Ronald Sotken
Swag Yolo Industries
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Posted - 2016.03.08 00:52:32 -
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This is great, but does anyone know I ought to copy my current profile settings to? Currently I can launch with wine and it works much better than the cider wrapper (ctrl + dragging to multi lock, for example), but I really don't want to have to reconfigure all the settings.
Default install location is /Users/[name]/Library/Application Support/EVE Online/p_drive/Local Settings/Application Data/CCP/EVE
And it contains the following folders/files
IGBR Patches SharedCache c_program_files_ccp_eve_tranquility c_sisi_singularity c_tq_tranquility crash_history.crs history.txt
The current settings profile is located in c_tq_tranquility, but I'm not sure where to copy the folder to so that the wine wrapper based launcher can launch with them.
Any ideas? |
Ronald Sotken
Swag Yolo Industries
0
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Posted - 2016.03.08 01:05:55 -
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Leora Risalo wrote:Could you please post a guide for newbies? i ve never used wine and experience issues with native mac client. Id rather try out this new option prior installing windows It's as simple as launching the EVE Launcher, selecting Eve Launcher > Preferences (command + ,), and selecting the option to use Wine, instead of Cider on the wrapper type.
The launcher will install Wine and configure it to work. After that, restart the launcher and launch clients as per normal. You'll have to migrate settings, but there should be a fix in the coming week or so.
Good luck! |
Invisusira
Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance
324
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Posted - 2016.03.08 01:19:01 -
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Ronald Sotken wrote:/Users/yourName/Library/Application Support/EVE Online/p_drive/Local Settings/Application Data/CCP/EVE/SharedCache/wineenv/drive_c/users/rob/Local Settings/Application Data/CCP/EVE/c_tq_tranquility/PROFILE
Hope that helps some people out.
Interestingly, there's nothing there at all for me (and it wasn't working for me, see above post). Goes as far as Users/yourName/Library/Application Support/EVE Online/p_drive/Local Settings/Application Data/CCP/EVE/SharedCache/wineenv/drive_c/users/yourName/Local Settings/Application Data/ but then CCP and beyond is missing.
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trever
Calamitous-Intent Feign Disorder
0
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Posted - 2016.03.08 02:35:00 -
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I ran into same issues as those above me. Where i followed the procedure and it tries to start but fails. Submitted a support ticket with my logs.
Thanks for all your work CCP Snorlax. |
sytaqe violacea
Circus of midnight
42
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Posted - 2016.03.08 02:45:31 -
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+1 Eventually, I got to be able to input Japanese text to EVE Client directly ! (For a long time, I used external text editor to input Japanese text because copy & paste was the only way to speak Japanese in OSX client.) |
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