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Jade Vemane
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2016.03.08 17:47:24 -
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Me and a friend had a go at ganking a code scout , we used 2 catalyst setup as code would, target was a Thrasher . Can't believe how fast i ended up in pod , must have been gate guns or faction police. Got his shields down to under 50%
We are both going to join Ozzie's gankers but thought we would try it out , so any tips would be great , we are both low skilled alts.
Did we use the right ship and setup and was its a case of numbers, although i did forget to over heat , any tips you can give us, also how do you fix your ss other than mission running i hear you can buy tags,
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Paranoid Loyd
8645
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Posted - 2016.03.08 17:56:45 -
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Down size guns and add sheild tank, less DPS but you will last longer to the gate guns which nets more damage, if you have two cats one full gank and one shield tanked, the one with the tank shoots first so the gate guns dont shoot at the full gank fit.
Fix the Prospect! New Server Hardware!
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Lady Ayeipsia
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
1016
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Posted - 2016.03.08 17:58:45 -
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How far from your target were you? Blasters have high DPS, but extremely short optimal range though the catalysts bonus should offset this some. What were your fits? Where did you engage? What was the sec status of the system? And I don't think faction poli a shot you. They tend to only worry about those with low faction standings. Did you check your logs for any details? |
Neuntausend
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
722
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Posted - 2016.03.08 18:04:24 -
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If you gank near a gate with only few pilots, you may want to use alpha (Artillery) instead of DPS (Blasters). Unlike CONCORD, gateguns react immediately, and can potentially volley your untanked Destroyer off the field, so one shot may be all you get. |
Dom Arkaral
Gate Is Red Complaints Department
133
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Posted - 2016.03.08 20:30:29 -
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My only advice is to join a freighter fleet and have a blast (Instead of failing non-stop daily)
You'll enjoy yourself more and as a bonus you'll meet relaxed people
Edit: try both sides before going apeshiz on me, it's an honest recommendation
Merc. Tear Gatherer. Quebecker
I have no Honer (truly)
Attache ta tuque avec d'la broche!
Salt Harvesting Level CCCXV
Save me from myself. #broadcast4reps when you're in need o7
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Areen Sassel
80
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Posted - 2016.03.08 20:55:23 -
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Jade Vemane wrote:Me and a friend had a go at ganking a code scout , we used 2 catalyst setup as code would, target was a Thrasher . Can't believe how fast i ended up in pod , must have been gate guns or faction police.
Find out which - can't tank what you don't know about.
And yes, "clone soldier" tags work on negative sec status. That said, the big hit's for podding; if you just shoot ships you've got a little way to go to -5. |
Jade Vemane
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
14
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Posted - 2016.03.08 22:40:14 -
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Thank you all for your feedback some great tips, i'll try again soon
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Jade Vemane
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
14
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Posted - 2016.03.08 22:47:03 -
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Lady Ayeipsia wrote:How far from your target were you? Blasters have high DPS, but extremely short optimal range though the catalysts bonus should offset this some. What were your fits? Where did you engage? What was the sec status of the system? And I don't think faction poli a shot you. They tend to only worry about those with low faction standings. Did you check your logs for any details?
Blasters and both of us at a range of 500m , we used the code standered fit , on the gate in a 0.8 , starting to see now what we did wrong with the info from above, it was fun trying and he placed a killright bounty of 25mill on us both
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Ozzie Udan
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
173
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Posted - 2016.03.08 22:53:13 -
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If you need more ships let me know , we just need more people now, high sec is such a target rich place.
I'll finish off my ganker alt and join you next time
A soft answer turneth away wrath. Once wrath is looking the other way, shoot it in the head.
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
7320
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Posted - 2016.03.08 23:18:27 -
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Keep in mind that you can downgrade by size based on target. Gank cats are used to yield maximum damage output for larger targets and are thus fitted for it. This means they may be somewhat lacking in tank (as if a cat could have less, right?)
Thus you may be able to take out a gank cat with nice cheap frigates.
All conflict is economics. If you can do it cheaper then the enemy, or get more bang (literally) for your buck and spend as much as an enemy, you can win. For that reason I would reconsider using gank cats to gank gank cats. (Ow, my brain).
I'm a bit busy this week but anybody got time with pyfa they might run some numbers and see how much it would take to drop a gank cat. Would one-shot from a pair of cheapy ghetto frigs be possible? Or is one volley too pessimistic? Can it be done with arty rifters or blaster Tristan? Perhaps a fast orbit kestrel?
I know people will say "hurrr durrr there will still be gank cats CODE always wins hurf blurf marsha marsha marsha" but if gank cats started getting hunted they would have to derive from their DPS to survive attacks. CODE might still get their freighter but seeing them forced to make changes like the pubbies they so despise makes their mortality stand out.
Bring back DEEEEP Space!
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Nat Silverguard
Aideron Robotics
352
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Posted - 2016.03.09 04:25:30 -
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and they say ganking is easy
Just Add Water
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Tarojan
Tarojan Corporation
230
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Posted - 2016.03.10 00:09:33 -
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heh I failed my first two ganks. Found out my merlin couldn't kill a venture before concord got me and how was i supposed to know the dam carebear had fitted warp core stabs to his procurer
live and learn.
Will gank for food
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Dom Arkaral
Gate Is Red Complaints Department
146
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Posted - 2016.03.10 00:46:39 -
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Tarojan wrote:procurer I lol'd
Merc. Tear Gatherer. Quebecker
I have no Honer (truly)
Attache ta tuque avec d'la broche!
Salt Harvesting Level CCCXV
Save me from myself. #broadcast4reps when you're in need o7
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Azov Rassau
The Hornets Cartel
231
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Posted - 2016.03.10 01:42:49 -
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I use this Catalyst fit (T1 works very well) for ganking the gank-scouts (often frigates with cargoscanners and passive targeters sitting around gates near ganking hotspots). From my memory I can say that it provides enough tank to inflict a few volleys while being under gate guns DPS, especially in 0.5, 0.6 for example. Sometimes these scouts orbit the gate, in which case you need to do an accurate prediction of his movement and time your landing very precisely.
I once tried to use that fit, in an impulse, to gank a Probe scout who was scouting for a ganker at belt. The gank failed horribly because that Probe managed to get away from my Cata which of course didn't have web or scram. So yeah, only use that fit when you operate within sight of gate guns.
I will gladly join your operations when I have the occasion.
Be the change you want to see in Highsec.
Anti-Ganking Fun: www.gankerjamming.com
"Never mistake 'anti-ganking' activity with the statement "this pilot stands against hisec suicide ganking." -B.H.
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Jade Vemane
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
16
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Posted - 2016.03.10 07:07:16 -
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Azov Rassau wrote:I use this Catalyst fit (T1 works very well) for ganking the gank-scouts (often frigates with cargoscanners and passive targeters sitting around gates near ganking hotspots). From my memory I can say that it provides enough tank to inflict a few volleys while being under gate guns DPS, especially in 0.5, 0.6 for example. Sometimes these scouts orbit the gate, in which case you need to do an accurate prediction of his movement and time your landing very precisely. I once tried to use that fit, in an impulse, to gank a Probe scout who was scouting for a ganker at belt. The gank failed horribly because that Probe managed to get away from my Cata which of course didn't have web or scram. So yeah, only use that fit when you operate within sight of gate guns. I will gladly join your operations when I have the occasion.
Great information thxs I'll try your fit and gank in a 0.5 this time, look out ganker scout we are coming for you
If anyone wants to support our little venture but can't help with ganking, clone soldier" tags or the above ship and fitting would help no end, isk are great but not doing it for money, stuff is much better and T1 at that. |
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