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K1RTH G3RS3N
The Blood Raider Covenant
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Posted - 2016.03.09 14:20:32 -
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I ask you, what is the point of having 3100 scan resolution when the "post lock target blinking lag" is longer than the actual lock time?
It takes me less than a second to lock a frigate, but it then takes 2 seconds for the lock and warp disruptor to officially activate, putting my lock time up to an effective 3 seconds for having 3100 scan res.
Anyone have this problem, or had and found a way around it? |
Thanatos Marathon
Black Fox Marauders
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Posted - 2016.03.09 14:48:34 -
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move closer to the servers?
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Anhenka
Infinite Point Violence of Action.
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Posted - 2016.03.09 19:14:19 -
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There's a 2 second minimum due to how the server works on 1 second intervals. If it takes you three seconds even at insane scan resolutions, that's probably latency from you to the servers that tips you over into that third second.
And there's really nothing you can do about it other than access EVE from a computer with lower latency to the sever, |
Estella Osoka
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2016.03.09 22:14:09 -
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This is why you only fit enough sensor boosters to get you under the 2 second mark. |
K1RTH G3RS3N
The Blood Raider Covenant
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Posted - 2016.03.10 01:21:34 -
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Fair enough, so basically another perk of playing Eve from Australia. The game is slower. Socket closed. It costs more. No-one is online. |
Michael Ruckert
Hohere Kavallerie-Kommando
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Posted - 2016.03.10 05:39:34 -
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K1RTH G3RS3N wrote:Fair enough, so basically another perk of playing Eve from Australia. The game is slower. Socket closed. It costs more. No-one is online.
Convicts don't get full privileges.
"No matter how well you perform there's always somebody of intelligent opinion who thinks it's lousy." - Laurence Olivier
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Mephiztopheleze
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2016.03.10 05:53:21 -
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K1RTH G3RS3N wrote:Fair enough, so basically another perk of playing Eve from Australia.
Yup. Instalocking is the one thing us Aussies really can't do in this game.
See also: Australian Gamers, lagging in the dark
On that note, EVE is far more forgiving of crappy pings than, for example, a twitch game like an FPS. I can play EVE just fine, except for the instalocking issue. Try playing Far Cry on a UK server: IMPOSSIBRU!
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K1RTH G3RS3N
The Blood Raider Covenant
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Posted - 2016.03.10 06:02:17 -
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Mephiztopheleze wrote:K1RTH G3RS3N wrote:Fair enough, so basically another perk of playing Eve from Australia. Yup. Instalocking is the one thing us Aussies really can't do in this game. See also: Australian Gamers, lagging in the darkOn that note, EVE is far more forgiving of crappy pings than, for example, a twitch game like an FPS. I can play EVE just fine, except for the instalocking issue. Try playing Far Cry on a UK server: IMPOSSIBRU!
Good read, all very accurate.
CCP could fix Aussie lag by getting a server here like Riot and Blizzard did but CCP is small time compared to them. But even Hi-Rez studios got a server here for tribes. But who gives a crap about us there isn't enough Aussies for it to by worth the effort... and the fact that bad lag isn't that bad in Eve compared to say... well, any other mmo, moba or fps. |
Anhenka
Infinite Point Violence of Action.
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Posted - 2016.03.10 15:18:08 -
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K1RTH G3RS3N wrote:Mephiztopheleze wrote:K1RTH G3RS3N wrote:Fair enough, so basically another perk of playing Eve from Australia. Yup. Instalocking is the one thing us Aussies really can't do in this game. See also: Australian Gamers, lagging in the darkOn that note, EVE is far more forgiving of crappy pings than, for example, a twitch game like an FPS. I can play EVE just fine, except for the instalocking issue. Try playing Far Cry on a UK server: IMPOSSIBRU! Good read, all very accurate. CCP could fix Aussie lag by getting a server here like Riot and Blizzard did but CCP is small time compared to them. But even Hi-Rez studios got a server here for tribes. But who gives a crap about us there isn't enough Aussies for it to by worth the effort... and the fact that bad lag isn't that bad in Eve compared to say... well, any other mmo, moba or fps.
There's only one server. (well three with Singularity and Duality, but those are test servers) Single shard universe, remember?
If they had another server in Australia it would have to be completely separate from the rest of the EVE. Players.
Unless you are really asking for a whole new EVE universe for the 3k Aussie players.
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K1RTH G3RS3N
The Blood Raider Covenant
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Posted - 2016.03.10 15:21:00 -
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Anhenka wrote:K1RTH G3RS3N wrote:Mephiztopheleze wrote:K1RTH G3RS3N wrote:Fair enough, so basically another perk of playing Eve from Australia. Yup. Instalocking is the one thing us Aussies really can't do in this game. See also: Australian Gamers, lagging in the darkOn that note, EVE is far more forgiving of crappy pings than, for example, a twitch game like an FPS. I can play EVE just fine, except for the instalocking issue. Try playing Far Cry on a UK server: IMPOSSIBRU! Good read, all very accurate. CCP could fix Aussie lag by getting a server here like Riot and Blizzard did but CCP is small time compared to them. But even Hi-Rez studios got a server here for tribes. But who gives a crap about us there isn't enough Aussies for it to by worth the effort... and the fact that bad lag isn't that bad in Eve compared to say... well, any other mmo, moba or fps. There's only one server. (well three with Singularity and Duality, but those are test servers) Single shard universe, remember? If they had another server in Australia it would have to be completely separate from the rest of the EVE. Players. Unless you are really asking for a whole new EVE universe for the 3k Aussie players.
No I'm not, clearly I don't fully understand how it works |
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Anhenka
Infinite Point Violence of Action.
1555
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Posted - 2016.03.10 15:39:55 -
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K1RTH G3RS3N wrote:
No I'm not, clearly I don't fully understand how it works
Any game where you have players split into smaller instances utilizes multiple servers, like say WoW having 100 servers each which support 5k people, or Riot having servers for LoL, reach of which only need to deal with 10 people.
In situations like that, you can physically situate separate servers where they can be used with little or no lag by a certain regions players, and everyone is happy.
But EVE is single sharded. There is only one play server and we all play on it regardless of where we live. Each system or group of systems in the game is run by a server blade at a single physical datacenter, and it processes everything that happens in that system for everyone in it. So our ping time, regardless of where we live, is based on the ping to that datacenter.
If CCP were to have servers in Australia, they would either have to be completely separate from the rest of EVE, or if they ran the same systems that the rest of us play in, everyone BUT the Aussies would have the server lag you Aussies do now.
If it is even possible to split hardware in vastly different locations trying to run EVE at once. I suspect there would be major tech problems with that. |
K1RTH G3RS3N
The Blood Raider Covenant
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Posted - 2016.03.10 17:08:37 -
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Anhenka wrote:K1RTH G3RS3N wrote:
No I'm not, clearly I don't fully understand how it works
Any game where you have players split into smaller instances utilizes multiple servers, like say WoW having 100 servers each which support 5k people, or Riot having servers for LoL, reach of which only need to deal with 10 people. In situations like that, you can physically situate separate servers where they can be used with little or no lag by a certain regions players, and everyone is happy. But EVE is single sharded. There is only one play server and we all play on it regardless of where we live. Each system or group of systems in the game is run by a server blade at a single physical datacenter, and it processes everything that happens in that system for everyone in it. So our ping time, regardless of where we live, is based on the ping to that datacenter. If CCP were to have servers in Australia, they would either have to be completely separate from the rest of EVE, or if they ran the same systems that the rest of us play in, everyone BUT the Aussies would have the server lag you Aussies do now. If it is even possible to split hardware in vastly different locations trying to run EVE at once. I suspect there would be major tech problems with that.
ok thanks, I better understand it now |
pushdogg
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2016.03.10 22:30:38 -
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You could play on the Chinese server....
After thinking about it, it's probably not in China.... |
Paranoid Loyd
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Posted - 2016.03.10 23:10:58 -
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pushdogg wrote:After thinking about it, it's probably not in China.... Looks like it is in Shanghai
I think your best bet to improve your ping is to setup a VPN connection to the server. Don't ask me how but I know it can be done and has helped with people that constantly get disconnected, in theory it should also help with latency.
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K1RTH G3RS3N
The Blood Raider Covenant
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Posted - 2016.03.11 01:37:20 -
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pushdogg wrote:You could play on the Chinese server....
After thinking about it, it's probably not in China....
I was not aware there even was a Chinese server, is it full of low-sec macro haulers? I enjoyed blowing them up and watching them get together to retaliate.
Any idea how many payers are on the Chinese server? |
Paranoid Loyd
8672
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Posted - 2016.03.11 01:40:55 -
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http://eve-offline.net/?server=serenity
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K1RTH G3RS3N
The Blood Raider Covenant
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Posted - 2016.03.11 01:50:08 -
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Paranoid Loyd wrote:http://eve-offline.net/?server=serenity
Thanks Loyd, you have been very helpful with all your input.
Looks like it's still half as active as TQ in my TZ.... edit, actually TQ only being about 30% more active. |
Anhenka
Infinite Point Violence of Action.
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Posted - 2016.03.11 02:15:12 -
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I'm fairly sure you need some sort of national individual identification number in order to play on the Chinese Serenity server, can't just sign up without some proxy work, someones identification number, and certain types of accepted payment. |
K1RTH G3RS3N
The Blood Raider Covenant
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Posted - 2016.03.11 02:40:07 -
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Anhenka wrote:I'm fairly sure you need some sort of national individual identification number in order to play on the Chinese Serenity server, can't just sign up without some proxy work, someones identification number, and certain types of accepted payment.
haha, communist server.
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Mephiztopheleze
Republic University Minmatar Republic
568
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Posted - 2016.03.11 03:00:18 -
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Paranoid Loyd wrote:I think your best bet to improve your ping is to setup a VPN connection to the server. Don't ask me how but I know it can be done and has helped with people that constantly get disconnected, in theory it should also help with latency.
I tried this and my ping actually got worse, mind you, I used the London node of a very 'privacy focused' VPN service (cryptostorm.is). Perhaps a subscription to a UK based VPN would yield better results (note however that using a VPN based in a 'five-eyes' nation is not something you do if privacy is your main concern).
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K1RTH G3RS3N
The Blood Raider Covenant
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Posted - 2016.03.11 03:38:20 -
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Mephiztopheleze wrote:Paranoid Loyd wrote:I think your best bet to improve your ping is to setup a VPN connection to the server. Don't ask me how but I know it can be done and has helped with people that constantly get disconnected, in theory it should also help with latency. I tried this and my ping actually got worse, mind you, I used the London node of a very 'privacy focused' VPN service (cryptostorm.is). Perhaps a subscription to a UK based VPN would yield better results (note however that using a VPN based in a 'five-eyes' nation is not something you do if privacy is your main concern).
Yeh I wouldn't personally go with a VPN service.
Ping isn't the big problem, I actually get about 300m/s which isn't bad for EVE and doesn't even closely account for the extra 2 seconds of lag after lock. |
Paranoid Loyd
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Posted - 2016.03.11 03:50:40 -
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Mephiztopheleze wrote:Paranoid Loyd wrote:I think your best bet to improve your ping is to setup a VPN connection to the server. Don't ask me how but I know it can be done and has helped with people that constantly get disconnected, in theory it should also help with latency. I tried this and my ping actually got worse, mind you, I used the London node of a very 'privacy focused' VPN service (cryptostorm.is). Perhaps a subscription to a UK based VPN would yield better results (note however that using a VPN based in a 'five-eyes' nation is not something you do if privacy is your main concern). Good to know, i appreciate the input.
Are you in Aus?
Fix the Prospect! New Server Hardware!
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Anhenka
Infinite Point Violence of Action.
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Posted - 2016.03.11 04:10:58 -
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K1RTH G3RS3N wrote:Mephiztopheleze wrote:Paranoid Loyd wrote:I think your best bet to improve your ping is to setup a VPN connection to the server. Don't ask me how but I know it can be done and has helped with people that constantly get disconnected, in theory it should also help with latency. I tried this and my ping actually got worse, mind you, I used the London node of a very 'privacy focused' VPN service (cryptostorm.is). Perhaps a subscription to a UK based VPN would yield better results (note however that using a VPN based in a 'five-eyes' nation is not something you do if privacy is your main concern). Yeh I wouldn't personally go with a VPN service. Ping isn't the big problem, I actually get about 300m/s which isn't bad for EVE and doesn't even closely account for the extra 2 seconds of lag after lock.
https://www.themittani.com/features/understanding-eve-online-server-tick
300 m/sec is plenty to frequently push you from the 2 seconds everyone else gets into 3 seconds, depending on when your requests get there and how long they take to get back. |
Mephiztopheleze
Republic University Minmatar Republic
569
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Posted - 2016.03.11 04:54:02 -
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Paranoid Loyd wrote:Are you in Aus?
Yup, Outback Queensland. I'm well in the 'yellow' of the population distribution map in that TMC article I linked (and incidentally, that I wrote).
Internet access speeds out here are woeful.
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