Pages: 1 2 3 4 5 6 [7] 8 9 :: one page |
|
Author |
Thread Statistics | Show CCP posts - 17 post(s) |
etgfrogs
Frog Evade
2
|
Posted - 2016.05.06 05:30:30 -
[181] - Quote
The most obvious cell to cell variation Ends up being 18% community consensus on cell the cell variation. |
HPA Dichroic
Polaris Corporation
22
|
Posted - 2016.05.06 10:35:20 -
[182] - Quote
Hmmm, that is an obvious one! Do you have the image ID? I'd love to know what that protein's job is biologically.
I know the community seems to shy away from CCD, and that 's largely our fault since we don't train it very well as we haven't been annotating it in the past. Fear not though! I am currently working on an optimized cut-off for each class for the statistical significance required to consider a response. This should help with general community bias such as over-annotation of cytoplasm and under-annotation of CCD.
Keep marking em! o7 |
Kolmogorow
Freedom Resources
78
|
Posted - 2016.05.06 11:24:21 -
[183] - Quote
Yesterday I had my first clear centrosome image (mainly double-dots, but in some cells only one dot)! They seem to be quite rare. One question about them: I've read on Wikipedia that the centrosome "serves as the main microtubule organizing center (MTOC)". But in PD there is also the "microtubule organizing center" as a separate image classification (more a diffuse ball rather than one or two sharp dots). Hence I thought centrosome and MTOC would be two different biological objects. Are they actually the same organelle and only the green staining is sometimes sharp and sometimes diffuse for some reason?
|
etgfrogs
Frog Evade
2
|
Posted - 2016.05.06 20:28:37 -
[184] - Quote
HPA Dichroic wrote:Hmmm, that is an obvious one! Do you have the image ID? I'd love to know what that protein's job is biologically.
I know the community seems to shy away from CCD, and that 's largely our fault since we don't train it very well as we haven't been annotating it in the past. Fear not though! I am currently working on an optimized cut-off for each class for the statistical significance required to consider a response. This should help with general community bias such as over-annotation of cytoplasm and under-annotation of CCD.
Keep marking em! o7 I cant find how to get the image ID. I've found nothing on reddit, I'm not getting a response in game. I keep feeling like it is a simple answer. |
HPA Dichroic
Polaris Corporation
22
|
Posted - 2016.05.11 09:31:37 -
[185] - Quote
Beta Maoye wrote:I think the classification of this image is wrong. It is not Nucleus. It should be Mitochondria.
This image has been correct in-game. Sorry it took so long to get a system in place for updating these, they should go faster in the future. Thanks for your feedback! |
HPA Dichroic
Polaris Corporation
22
|
Posted - 2016.05.11 09:36:37 -
[186] - Quote
March rabbit wrote:I've heard that some images was analyzed by professionals? screenshot
This has now been officially updated in-game. We now have a system, so updates should happen faster. Thanks for the help and keep em coming! |
HPA Dichroic
Polaris Corporation
22
|
Posted - 2016.05.11 09:41:37 -
[187] - Quote
Beta Maoye wrote:In this classification result, I realized I was wrong about Cytoplasm for so many cases.
This has now been officially updated in-game. We now have a system, so updates should happen faster. Thanks for the help and keep em coming! |
Shiverwarpz
The Scope Gallente Federation
0
|
Posted - 2016.05.12 17:04:57 -
[188] - Quote
I've had a couple tough classifications in a row now. This one http://i.imgur.com/xElpvSz.png (100457139)
in particular had me questioning myself. I've always had trouble with cytoskeleton intermediate filaments VS Endoplasmic reticulum, but never the cytoskeleton microtubules. What exactly makes this one microtubules over the filaments? (The cytokinetic bridge is pretty obvious here)
And while I'm on the subject, the classification I had a few slides before, had me questioning between cell junctions and focal adhesions. How can I more clearly make that distinction? If that classification is correct, then sometimes cell junctions can appear even when not next to another cell (Just black space on the slide) |
Galaxxis
Unicorn Rampage
111
|
Posted - 2016.05.24 21:25:08 -
[189] - Quote
http://i.imgur.com/FmMBfrk.jpg
This one has little stringy things all over the place that look like mitochondria, but it's tagged as vesicles. |
HPA Illuminator
The Human Protein Atlas
32
|
Posted - 2016.05.25 20:03:15 -
[190] - Quote
What you see here is actually a certain type of vesicles called peroxisomes, so the control is right.
If you find control images that you think are incorrect, it would be great if you could make a post in this reddit thread.
o7 |
|
HPA Illuminator
The Human Protein Atlas
32
|
Posted - 2016.05.25 20:12:56 -
[191] - Quote
Shiverwarpz wrote:I've had a couple tough classifications in a row now. This one http://i.imgur.com/xElpvSz.png (100457139) in particular had me questioning myself. I've always had trouble with cytoskeleton intermediate filaments VS Endoplasmic reticulum, but never the cytoskeleton microtubules. What exactly makes this one microtubules over the filaments? (The cytokinetic bridge is pretty obvious here) And while I'm on the subject, the classification I had a few slides before, had me questioning between cell junctions and focal adhesions. How can I more clearly make that distinction? If that classification is correct, then sometimes cell junctions can appear even when not next to another cell (Just black space on the slide)
Sorry for the late reply, didn't see this until now!
If you would toggle the green/red on/off you would see that there is a perfect overlap of individual strands which would lead one to the conclusion of microtubules.
Cell junctions should only appear where two cells are touching each other, not when there's black next to the cells. Focals would normally appear somewhat under the cell, not just at/outside the edge of it (and they can appear regardless whether the cell has neighbors or not).
The reddit subthread https://www.reddit.com/r/ProjectDiscovery/ is a great place for asking questions. Also, our PD classes (first at youtube and second/third at twitch (until 20160606) might be helpful!).
EDIT: LOL, didn't see the name first. Guessing you can probably ignore most of this after our posts on reddit :) |
Galaxxis
Unicorn Rampage
113
|
Posted - 2016.05.25 21:45:54 -
[192] - Quote
HPA Illuminator wrote:What you see here is actually a certain type of vesicles called peroxisomes, so the control is right. If you find control images that you think are incorrect, it would be great if you could make a post in this reddit thread. o7
Oh cool! Thanks for the info. |
Shiverwarpz
Wormbro
0
|
Posted - 2016.05.25 22:59:43 -
[193] - Quote
HPA Illuminator wrote:Sorry for the late reply, didn't see this until now! If you would toggle the green/red on/off you would see that there is a perfect overlap of individual strands which would lead one to the conclusion of microtubules. Cell junctions should only appear where two cells are touching each other, not when there's black next to the cells. Focals would normally appear somewhat under the cell, not just at/outside the edge of it (and they can appear regardless whether the cell has neighbors or not). The reddit subthread https://www.reddit.com/r/ProjectDiscovery/ is a great place for asking questions. Also, our PD classes (first at youtube and second/ third at twitch (until 20160606) might be helpful!). EDIT: LOL, didn't see the name first. Guessing you can probably ignore most of this after our posts on reddit :)
Hahaha, yeah, this was my very first post when getting into Project Discovery. Learned a lot since then! |
Joia Crenca
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
294
|
Posted - 2016.05.28 14:45:08 -
[194] - Quote
I'll bring this over from the other thread in the Information Center
Joia Crenca wrote:I noticed that some of the Classification Samples are a bit questionable, still. I guess someone is noticing when one comes up with a large 'incorrect' percentage as pertains to players trying to identify it? Also, when do I get my certificate of cell sample mastery from the University of Reykjavik?
I guess I need to go check Reddit myself. Is CCP finished with any further work on the mini-game? The reason I ask is I'm wondering if more helpful information could be a part of the module itself?
Thanks folks!
|
HPA Illuminator
H P A C C P Alliance
33
|
Posted - 2016.05.31 07:49:39 -
[195] - Quote
Joia Crenca wrote:I'll bring this over from the other thread in the Information Center Joia Crenca wrote:I noticed that some of the Classification Samples are a bit questionable, still. I guess someone is noticing when one comes up with a large 'incorrect' percentage as pertains to players trying to identify it? Also, when do I get my certificate of cell sample mastery from the University of Reykjavik? I guess I need to go check Reddit myself. Is CCP finished with any further work on the mini-game? The reason I ask is I'm wondering if more helpful information could be a part of the module itself? Thanks folks!
We're really dependent on your input for finding questionable control images, so please report them at the reddit thread I mentioned a few posts ago.
Hehe, certficates do sound like a nice idea (although guess it might be us at KTH (Royal Institute of Technology) here in Stockholm that are responsible for the science part).
I don't know if they are finished, but feedback is always appreciated. There are some PD threads here at the EVE forum where people have been commenting on it earlier, but I think they've been quiet for a month or so now at least. |
Ashlar Maidstone
Signal Cartel EvE-Scout Enclave
238
|
Posted - 2016.06.01 05:09:40 -
[196] - Quote
Hi, I just started today Project Discovery and so far made it to rank 4! My question is how long will this be available because this is something I been wanting to do since it was introduced earlier this year. And will there be more projects like this? Thank you |
HPA Illuminator
H P A C C P Alliance
33
|
Posted - 2016.06.03 09:27:09 -
[197] - Quote
Ashlar Maidstone wrote:Hi, I just started today Project Discovery and so far made it to rank 4! My question is how long will this be available because this is something I been wanting to do since it was introduced earlier this year. And will there be more projects like this? Thank you
Yay, welcome to PD! (in case you haven't come across them there's a PD subreddit, an awesome ingame chat channel (search for Project Discovery) - great for asking questions about difficult images, and also a slack channel)
CCP has said that PD will be around as long as it's popular, so hopefully that means for a long time :)
As for more projects like this, I don't know. That's up to CCP.
Hope you'll enjoy it (and let us know if you have questions :)) o/ |
William Weatherwax
Signal Cartel EvE-Scout Enclave
20
|
Posted - 2016.06.06 15:50:40 -
[198] - Quote
Kolmogorow wrote:Yesterday I had my first clear centrosome image (mainly double-dots, but in some cells only one dot)! They seem to be quite rare. One question about them: I've read on Wikipedia that the centrosome "serves as the main microtubule organizing center (MTOC)". But in PD there is also the "microtubule organizing center" as a separate image classification (more a diffuse ball rather than one or two sharp dots). Hence I thought centrosome and MTOC would be two different biological objects. Are they actually the same organelle and only the green staining is sometimes sharp and sometimes diffuse for some reason?
Hi Kolmogorow,
the centrosome is both. In the beginning it will be a ball but once the cell division starts it will separate and each part will migrate to the opposite poles of the cell. While doing this they are connected by the microtubuli. |
HPA Illuminator
H P A C C P Alliance
33
|
Posted - 2016.06.07 13:41:05 -
[199] - Quote
William Weatherwax wrote:Kolmogorow wrote:Yesterday I had my first clear centrosome image (mainly double-dots, but in some cells only one dot)! They seem to be quite rare. One question about them: I've read on Wikipedia that the centrosome "serves as the main microtubule organizing center (MTOC)". But in PD there is also the "microtubule organizing center" as a separate image classification (more a diffuse ball rather than one or two sharp dots). Hence I thought centrosome and MTOC would be two different biological objects. Are they actually the same organelle and only the green staining is sometimes sharp and sometimes diffuse for some reason?
Hi Kolmogorow, the centrosome is both. In the beginning it will be a ball but once the cell division starts it will separate and each part will migrate to the opposite poles of the cell. While doing this they are connected by the microtubuli.
That was a great reply!
I just want to add that MTOC differs from centrosomes (since we can't distinguish the individual centrosome/s), so it could be e.g. a protein in the pericentriolar matrix which is surrounding the centrosome, or vesicles that are clustering around the centrosomes.
|
Joia Crenca
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
343
|
Posted - 2016.07.16 05:18:49 -
[200] - Quote
I'm actually still doing this Project. I'll have to check whether the last update I've seen to the ranks coincides with reward updates. (I'm sitting on a lot of Analysis Kredits, lol) |
|
Cyrano Garjuiji
Perkone Caldari State
0
|
Posted - 2016.09.01 17:06:56 -
[201] - Quote
I probably should have uploaded these here sooner. just found this thread and reminded me of some interrresting screenshots I took.
can anyone tell me what those "things" are?
http://i.imgur.com/8mdaZPv.png
and
http://i.imgur.com/rSEyqWD.png
sorry for not keeping the number tho. |
HPA Illuminator
H P A C C P Alliance
34
|
Posted - 2016.09.02 06:51:37 -
[202] - Quote
What you see there is a cell undergoing cell division (mitosis). The chromosomes (DNA, blue) have duplicated and condensed and lined up next to each other. The microtubules (red) have disassembled to form the mitotic spindle (red), which will attach to sites on the chromosomes and will pull them apart with the help of centrosomes. This will result in two (small) daughter cells that each have a copy of the DNA. After division they don't immediately detach, but are sort of stuck together (via the cytokinetic bridge), before cut off at the cytokinetic bridge cleavage site.
In the first image it seems like there's some green staining overlapping with the red, which would suggest that the protein might help out with the pulling apart of the chromosomes. The second image seems to show an overlap with blue and green, possibly indicating a DNA-binding protein. |
Cyrano Garjuiji
Into The Fray. FREE GATES COALITION
0
|
Posted - 2016.09.02 09:24:38 -
[203] - Quote
HPA Illuminator wrote:What you see there is a cell undergoing cell division (mitosis). The chromosomes (DNA, blue) have duplicated and condensed and lined up next to each other. The microtubules (red) have disassembled to form the mitotic spindle (red), which will attach to sites on the chromosomes and will pull them apart with the help of centrosomes. This will result in two (small) daughter cells that each have a copy of the DNA. After division they don't immediately detach, but are sort of stuck together (via the cytokinetic bridge), before cut off at the cytokinetic bridge cleavage site. In the first image it seems like there's some green staining overlapping with the red, which would suggest that the protein might help out with the pulling apart of the chromosomes. The second image seems to show an overlap with blue and green, possibly indicating a DNA-binding protein. Thank you for the explanation. |
Cyrano Garjuiji
Into The Fray. FREE GATES COALITION
0
|
Posted - 2016.09.09 18:21:28 -
[204] - Quote
Sample 100456307 clearly has 2 bridges answer atleast partially incorrect.
http://i.imgur.com/KxVICk4.png
|
HPA Illuminator
H P A C C P Alliance
35
|
Posted - 2016.09.22 10:49:57 -
[205] - Quote
Yes, but the cytokinetic bridges are only seen in the red channel, not the green, and should thus not be labeled. |
Mariones Moliko
DRUCKWELLE Evolution
1
|
Posted - 2016.11.07 14:44:57 -
[206] - Quote
When we get an update (new features or rewards) for PD? |
Scatch Domination
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
0
|
Posted - 2016.11.21 13:51:02 -
[207] - Quote
I'm really afraid of my choices, at least for the cell variations.
http://i.imgur.com/p6v3wB2.png zoomed: http://i.imgur.com/8vn1EHY.png
So bridges can only happen in the red channel, "never ever" in the green? |
Matthias Ancaladron
Hedion University Amarr Empire
11
|
Posted - 2016.11.26 04:58:38 -
[208] - Quote
I started playing this game but i was curious how um do you find a sistsrs of eve loyalty store? Do i have to go all the way to thera? I was thinking about grinding out one or two of those combat suits. One to keep and one to sell, |
Matthias Khenakhtre
Wrath of Angels Solitaire.
314
|
Posted - 2016.11.26 04:58:38 -
[209] - Quote
I started playing this game but i was curious how um do you find a sistsrs of eve loyalty store? Do i have to go all the way to thera? I was thinking about grinding out one or two of those combat suits. One to keep and one to sell, |
Memphis Baas
2354
|
Posted - 2016.11.29 19:05:00 -
[210] - Quote
Simplest way is to open the Agent Finder app in-game and search for a Sisters of EVE (corporation) agent. You can then see where their stations are.
I know a popular location is Arnon, where the Sisters of EVE Epic Arc starts, they have a station there. Gicodel, also, they have some agents there.
All you need is to find an SoE station, so you can click the LP Store button inside it. They have them in a bunch of places in high-sec, low-sec, and null.
EDIT: Also, the combat suits cannot be sold on the market, but they are available in the Contracts system for about 60 million ISK apiece, not bad. There's just a bug in their name that doesn't let you actually search the contracts interface for them; you have to set your Contract interface to show you Apparel, Outer Apparel, and then scroll down until you see the suits, male or female.
60 million ISK, as of yesterday. LP cost = 75,000 Project Discovery AK points + 37.5 million ISK. If you're starting Project Discovery from level 0, it'll take a while to get the AK points, as they are only rewarded as you level up, and only a few at a time. |
|
|
|
|
Pages: 1 2 3 4 5 6 [7] 8 9 :: one page |
First page | Previous page | Next page | Last page |