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Rei nishana
DNS Requiem Cede Nullis
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Posted - 2016.03.14 12:25:11 -
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I have been ratting for a long time now in sov space, ratting both blood raiders and serp. About a year ago I got a faction spawn every 3 or so havens, now in the last month I have noticed they are getting more and more rare to the point I ran through 20 or so havens today and didn't get a single faction drop, not even an escalation.
Is it just me or are faction spawns too low now? |
Forum Toon
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2016.03.14 12:42:58 -
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same on anomalies and security missions. I used to get those named spawns with faction modules and loot every 10% +- of the times now it's damn rare. |
Rei nishana
DNS Requiem Cede Nullis
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Posted - 2016.03.14 12:52:55 -
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I know right! If CCP is going to lower the faction spawn rate the least they can do is increase the bounties paid on them to make up for at least a little bit of the loss you know? Glad to see it's not just me though. |
Krevnos
Back Door Burglars The Otherworld
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Posted - 2016.03.14 15:55:21 -
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I can't say I have noticed any difference to be honest. |
Rei nishana
DNS Requiem Cede Nullis
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Posted - 2016.03.14 16:07:08 -
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Krevnos wrote:I can't say I have noticed any difference to be honest. My whole corp has, we have been talking about how hard to come by they are. But I ratted all day yesterday, I didn't sleep all night because I was ratting and most of the day till now and its noon and haven't got a single faction spawn, so it is either I am the most unlucky SOB in eve or something is wrong. |
Galaxxis
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2016.03.14 16:08:47 -
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They spawn all the time in the crappy high sec anomalies! I made about a billion isk over the course of a week on dread gurista and sentient stuff just casually doing them when they popped up. |
Rei nishana
DNS Requiem Cede Nullis
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Posted - 2016.03.14 16:13:18 -
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Galaxxis wrote:They spawn all the time in the crappy high sec anomalies! I made about a billion isk over the course of a week on dread gurista and sentient stuff just casually doing them when they popped up. Yeah but I am in sov space with a military index of 5, there is no reason we aren't getting any :( That and I hate highsec. |
Payne Dakara
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2016.03.14 16:25:46 -
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Rei nishana wrote:Galaxxis wrote:They spawn all the time in the crappy high sec anomalies! I made about a billion isk over the course of a week on dread gurista and sentient stuff just casually doing them when they popped up. Yeah but I am in sov space with a military index of 5, there is no reason we aren't getting any :( That and I hate highsec.
There is a reason you have 0.5-1 mill on each BS you kill in high sec you get 5k on a frigates. 100 times difference.
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Frostys Virpio
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2016.03.14 16:55:24 -
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Rei nishana wrote:Krevnos wrote:I can't say I have noticed any difference to be honest. My whole corp has, we have been talking about how hard to come by they are. But I ratted all day yesterday, I didn't sleep all night because I was ratting and most of the day till now and its noon and haven't got a single faction spawn, so it is either I am the most unlucky SOB in eve or something is wrong.
You didn't sleep so you could rat more? |
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
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Posted - 2016.03.14 20:29:51 -
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RNG is R
Also your rapaciously greedy carebearism is terrifying
Got a HoleySheet1 corpse? I'll buy it for 200m!
Bumble's Space Log
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Lulu Lunette
ThinkTank Phoenix TOG - The Older Gamers Alliance
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Posted - 2016.03.14 20:57:30 -
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Galaxxis wrote:They spawn all the time in the crappy high sec anomalies! I made about a billion isk over the course of a week on dread gurista and sentient stuff just casually doing them when they popped up.
nerf highsec!
@lunettelulu7
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Rei nishana
DNS Requiem Cede Nullis
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Posted - 2016.03.14 22:14:24 -
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Frostys Virpio wrote:Rei nishana wrote:Krevnos wrote:I can't say I have noticed any difference to be honest. My whole corp has, we have been talking about how hard to come by they are. But I ratted all day yesterday, I didn't sleep all night because I was ratting and most of the day till now and its noon and haven't got a single faction spawn, so it is either I am the most unlucky SOB in eve or something is wrong. You didn't sleep so you could rat more? lol I didn't sleep because I have insomnia. some nights I am fine and can sleep while others I lay in bed for hours. Last night was one of the nights insomnia hit me so I said **** it and ratted lol |
Rei nishana
DNS Requiem Cede Nullis
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Posted - 2016.03.14 22:15:16 -
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Bumblefck wrote:RNG is R
Also your rapaciously greedy carebearism is terrifying nope, just insomnia so if you can't sleep, might as well rat lol. |
Rei nishana
DNS Requiem Cede Nullis
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Posted - 2016.03.15 15:14:25 -
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By god I got a faction drop! two straight days of ratting and I finally got one! XD |
Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2016.03.15 17:01:06 -
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Are you talking about faction loot in DED sites? I run them occasional in high and low, and regularly get faction loot drops in the range of 50-100m.
I'm my own NPC alt.
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Damjan Fox
Fox Industries and Exploration
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Posted - 2016.03.15 17:48:10 -
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Quote:Are you talking about faction loot in DED sites? Nobody is talking about DED sites here...
Proposal: >>> New Inventory / Item Hangar <<<
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Rei nishana
DNS Requiem Cede Nullis
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Posted - 2016.03.15 17:51:00 -
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Damjan Fox wrote:Quote:Are you talking about faction loot in DED sites? Nobody is talking about DED sites here... besides the fact I haven't gotten one all this weekend I have luck getting good stuff from them, I am talking about faction drops from combat anoms |
Yun Kuai
Justified Chaos Spaceship Bebop
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Posted - 2016.03.16 03:11:09 -
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The issue is there are a certain number of faction spawns at any given time. These are collectively spread through all areas of space. The reason you seem to not be getting faction spawns anymore is because there is such a vast increase in "nullbears" constantly farming their collective sov space.
If you want more spawns, you have to unblue half of your blues and go shoot them so they aren't ratting as much. Once you start pvp'ing more, you'll see you have time to rat in between and will see more faction spawns as a result
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Rei nishana
DNS Requiem Cede Nullis
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Posted - 2016.03.16 03:23:09 -
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Yun Kuai wrote:The issue is there are a certain number of faction spawns at any given time. These are collectively spread through all areas of space. The reason you seem to not be getting faction spawns anymore is because there is such a vast increase in "nullbears" constantly farming their collective sov space.
If you want more spawns, you have to unblue half of your blues and go shoot them so they aren't ratting as much. Once you start pvp'ing more, you'll see you have time to rat in between and will see more faction spawns as a result Thanks for the advice, truthfully it makes since so I need to find a quiet place to rat. I do pvp but I can't shoot blues XD My boss won't let me... |
Nalia White
Tencus
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Posted - 2016.03.16 12:16:20 -
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random random random random random
MUSHROOM MUSHROOM
random random random random random |
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Soldarius
O C C U P Y Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2016.03.16 15:31:20 -
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Ratting is for plebes.
http://youtu.be/YVkUvmDQ3HY
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Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
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Posted - 2016.03.16 17:19:55 -
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Yun Kuai wrote:The issue is there are a certain number of faction spawns at any given time. These are collectively spread through all areas of space. The reason you seem to not be getting faction spawns anymore is because there is such a vast increase in "nullbears" constantly farming their collective sov space.
If you want more spawns, you have to unblue half of your blues and go shoot them so they aren't ratting as much. Once you start pvp'ing more, you'll see you have time to rat in between and will see more faction spawns as a result
That has zero to do with anything. The chance of a commander spawn in an anomaly is chance based (just like the loot drops in the related DED complexes those anomalies have a chance to spawn as escalations). This can be seen in game via loot prices and how they have dropped since CCP modified anomalies (and expeditions). ie, if there were only so many faction spawns as you claim, prices would remain stable, but they haven't they have dropped, because more people doing anomalies means more commander spawns and expeditions in total (meaning more faction and deadspace loot on the market).
The real problem here is that people (like the OP) try to figure out percentages ("I will get one faction spawn for every 10 havens") for something that is completely random. This is human nature in action, most people don't like ambiguity or uncertainty, so they try to assign "patterns" to everything. As I noted once in the missions and complexes forum, PVE players are INTENSELY superstitious (I think it's a character trait of gamers that prefer PVE). If you told a ratter or mission runner that jumping up and down 4 times on one leg in front of their computers then making the sign of the cross would generate better loot drops, you'd see a lot more hopping Catholic converts killing rats (lol).
Last week, while ratting one night, I got (for the 1st time in my EVE career), THREE commander spawns from back to back to back havens. I got 2 escalations to DED 10/10 plexes that night. Since then I've had the regular random spawns/no spawns. The system is working fine, the problem here is between the monitor and the chair... |
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