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Khefron
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.02.10 17:42:00 -
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Greetings from the front lines. To all those goons up there with me, fighting, screaming, drinking, dying, I salute you. I am going to report on my perspective on the war as this goes on. I make no claim to be unbiased, possess any unique intel, or have any special qualifications other than this lossmail. Consider this an attempt at battlefield Journalism. Don't expect much useful intel on Goon and Allied activities, and also expect no level of circumspection as I discuss our enemies. Let me be exactingly clear. I am a Goon, and I will take considerable delight in the destruction of our enemies. Also, I don't promise to update this blog on a daily basis, but I expect that updates will be more frequent than not. Now, on with the blog.
From a purely killboard standpoint, this first day of the war was a complete and utter disaster. LV and BOB's killboards have been padded with hundreds of killmails while their own lossmails have been comparatively light. Ever ones to harp upon their killboard successes, it is certain that these two alliances will be certain to expound upon their magnificence and prowess. Let me tell you that this will not matter. Eve is not determined by who has the prettiest kill board with the longest count of coup taken. Eve is determined by who holds the field at the end of the day.
Initial fleet battles against the combined LV/BoB armada in their primetime have resulted in heavy allied losses. This is only half of the tale. This was a direct result of our attempts to break into LV's capital shipyards and abort the production of their titan. Current reports make that system an impregnable fortress guarded by the very best of both alliances. It is certain that for now they can maintain a 23/7 watch upon the system, securing it from allied hands. They just have to hold out for 29 more days until the titan being built therein is completed.
What is important to realize is that once our primetime hit engagements ceased, goon frigate/cruiser suicide ops not withstanding. This is not to say that the allies were camped in their stations, safespots, and POSes. No, they were systematically exterminating LV POSes in precious station systems in Innsmother (finally marking the last chapter of the Southern Coalition's presence in that region) and Detorid. We were capitalizing upon the massive havok wreaked by our magnificent allies in the Red Alliance and Tau Ceti Federation a few short days ago. Were it not for BoB's intervention, today would have rung the death knell for LV's alliance. What should have been the end of days for their alliance has instead become merely a very bad day.
1 day down, 29 more to go. Let's see if they have the stamina to keep us away from those shipyards.
Ceterum censeo Comitatus Fratorum esse delendam. |
Felysta Sandorn
Caldari Murder of Crows E N I G M A
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Posted - 2007.02.10 17:44:00 -
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Edited by: Felysta Sandorn on 10/02/2007 17:40:57 First?
We all know BoB will win, but it's good to have a record from the losers side as well! :) _________________________________________________________
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Tiuwaz
Minmatar The Nest Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.02.10 17:47:00 -
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Originally by: Felysta Sandorn Edited by: Felysta Sandorn on 10/02/2007 17:40:57 First?
We all know BoB will win, but it's good to have a record from the losers side as well! :)
actually this operation was a success for the coaliton, (not fully as the cap shipyards were protected)
i got one question tough, didnt the build job in the cap yard get ejected and reset when it was brought into reinforced? (no clue how those things work) ___________________________________
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Enders Vaal
SniggWaffe Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.02.10 17:48:00 -
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o7 to all Goonswam pilots out there on the front lines I was with the suicide fleet when we jumped into JV1, it was not a pretty sight but reports are saying many pilots were able to break through and survive
Good luck to all, godspeed --- "You are without doubt the worst pirate I've ever heard of." "...but you have heard of me." |
Halkin
Locus Solus
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Posted - 2007.02.10 17:48:00 -
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Originally by: Khefron drinking
best bit
nice write up tho
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Saltire
System-Lords E N I G M A
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Posted - 2007.02.10 17:51:00 -
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goons, if you win it is for the sake of eve you must follow the defeated BoB in to their space and take it from them, prove to eve that cheating scum never prosper.
(wasnt their an accusation of you lot hacking your portrait files to show different standings?)
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Beetle Boy
Minmatar Hybrid Syndicate Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.10 17:53:00 -
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Originally by: Tiuwaz Edited by: Tiuwaz on 10/02/2007 17:44:26
Originally by: Felysta Sandorn Edited by: Felysta Sandorn on 10/02/2007 17:40:57 First?
We all know BoB will win, but it's good to have a record from the losers side as well! :)
actually this operation was a success for the goonies, (not fully as the cap shipyards were protected)
i got one question tough, didnt the build job in the cap yard get ejected and reset when it was brought into reinforced? (no clue how those things work)
i don't think Goons like getting called Goonies
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sesanti
Minmatar Universal Exports Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2007.02.10 17:54:00 -
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Cheers to Goons! Slaughter those cheating pigs!
_______________________________________________ The ShadowMaster -
<I am a guy... don't mind the portrait> |
Logi3
EVE Corporation 1631
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Posted - 2007.02.10 17:56:00 -
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Glad some from the front lines is actuly reporting!
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Xendie
Away Humping Keyboard
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Posted - 2007.02.10 18:01:00 -
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Originally by: Felysta Sandorn
We all know BoB will win, but it's good to have a record from the losers side as well! :)
propably because all of a sudden lots of towers will dissapear and soverenity will be lost 30sec before a bob blob jumps in and everyone else wont be able to jump in or whatever.
and i can already hear the posts "no foul play at all" from BOD
pathetic.
Quote: Nertzius > having fun being incompetitent?
Quote: jake sisko > its f-e's bob dev alt making lag
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Chirinako
Caldari Legionari Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.02.10 18:04:00 -
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It's good to see a non-biased report on things for once. Props to you for that. Was an interesting read, hope to see more of it and good luck to both sides
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Snodgey2004
Mega Modal M0nkeys
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Posted - 2007.02.10 18:05:00 -
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Edited by: Snodgey2004 on 10/02/2007 18:02:28
Originally by: Beetle Boy
Originally by: Tiuwaz Edited by: Tiuwaz on 10/02/2007 17:44:26
Originally by: Felysta Sandorn Edited by: Felysta Sandorn on 10/02/2007 17:40:57 First?
We all know BoB will win, but it's good to have a record from the losers side as well! :)
actually this operation was a success for the goonies, (not fully as the cap shipyards were protected)
i got one question tough, didnt the build job in the cap yard get ejected and reset when it was brought into reinforced? (no clue how those things work)
i don't think Goons like getting called Goonies
I do , whenever I think of Goonies I think of Sloth .
Originally by: Xendie
Originally by: Felysta Sandorn
We all know BoB will win, but it's good to have a record from the losers side as well! :)
propably because all of a sudden lots of towers will dissapear and soverenity will be lost 30sec before a bob blob jumps in and everyone else wont be able to jump in or whatever.
and i can already hear the posts "no foul play at all" from BOD
pathetic.
LoL , what is pathetic is you making excuses for something that hasn't even happened yet , talk about pre-emptive . Just chillout and wait see what happens before bursting a vessel eh....
Edit: Nice write-up
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Plutoinum
German Cyberdome Corp Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.02.10 18:06:00 -
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Originally by: Felysta Sandorn Edited by: Felysta Sandorn on 10/02/2007 17:40:57 First?
We all know BoB will win, but it's good to have a record from the losers side as well! :)
Lol, that made me laugh. That's confidence ! Since AAA and D2&friends have entered the battlefield it looks it gets a tough ride for BoB/LV. I have no idea how this ends. But noone can complain anymore that it's no challenge.
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Lee Shogun
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Posted - 2007.02.10 18:08:00 -
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Originally by: Felysta Sandorn Edited by: Felysta Sandorn on 10/02/2007 17:40:57 First?
We all know BoB will win, but it's good to have a record from the losers side as well! :)
mayben but if that means LV can save there capital shipyards is something els. With Delve under siege, BoB would need to stop helping LV to safe there own home.
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DTee
The Huns
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Posted - 2007.02.10 18:11:00 -
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Originally by: Xendie
Originally by: Felysta Sandorn
We all know BoB will win, but it's good to have a record from the losers side as well! :)
propably because all of a sudden lots of towers will dissapear and soverenity will be lost 30sec before a bob blob jumps in and everyone else wont be able to jump in or whatever.
and i can already hear the posts "no foul play at all" from BOD
pathetic.
WTS: Cheese
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Tiuwaz
Minmatar The Nest Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.02.10 18:11:00 -
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Originally by: Beetle Boy
i don't think Goons like getting called Goonies
edited my post then ___________________________________
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Nez Perces
Amarr Black Spot.
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Posted - 2007.02.10 18:16:00 -
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Interesting write-up .... I look forward to more of them.
I've been giving this some cool-headed thought and I am convinced more than ever about one thing.
BoB must die... they are no longer useful to EVE in any shape or form.. no longer are they an example to be looked up to.
.. and righteousness is on the side of the coalition.
May your bullets strike true and your fleets carry with them the fury of hell.
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slothe
Caldari Forsaken Empire The Forsaken Empire
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Posted - 2007.02.10 18:17:00 -
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Originally by: Snodgey2004 I do , whenever I think of Goonies I think of Sloth .
mayube i should join up :d
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Bellon
Shinra Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.02.10 18:19:00 -
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From our Perpective:
We had 2 cap shipyards in JV1V coming out of reinforced. The stront was coming out in goon primetime (03.00) so we were expecting a chance to score a decisive victory over their (RA and TCFs and the 3-5 that goons own) dreadnaughts.
It soom became apparant (by about 20.00) that the enemy were very serious about the situation. 150 TCF were in M-R preventing any entry to JV1V (in theory), 100+ CA were heading down from 1v-, 150 Goons were in 46DP (3 jumps from JV1V).
As usual, BoB showed balls by jumping into the Goon fleet, and amid massive lag our fleet jumped in from a different direction to assist. That battle quickly went our way, and as we were looting wrecks the node dropped.
On reconnect the remainder of the goon fleet were making a bee-line for M-R and the TCF fleet, we popped another 25 or so by bubbling the exit gate, and then titanned the lot that made it through for a few more kills. Next the combined LV/BoB fleet jumped in and finished off the last of the Goon fleet.
By this point TCF and CA were demanding attention. BoB dealt with TCF (Titan, capital jumping and then fleet jumping) for many kills, and then LV ended the CA fleet with a nice 85 kill Doomsday.
The whole LV/BoB group then protected JV1V for several hours while our POSs were recharged.
A 400 man Goon fleet formed up in DG-, but instead of coming for us (200 or so at this point), they changed plans and went for GB-, the furthest away of all LV outposts systems. RA had put many of the small, unarmed POSs protecting its 68 moons into reinforced the day before so they were able to finish many of them off.
RAGoonTCF can play this off as their plan all they like, but if they hadnt lost upward of 300 ships over the course of the evening, they DEFINATELY would have gone for JV1V.
Today the fighting continues, and is a similar story. You are totally right goons, Kill ratios mean sod all. Unfortunately for you, so do POSs.
What matters is ISK and morale, and while we keep melting BS after BS for minimal losses, we are winning on both fronts.
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Snodgey2004
Mega Modal M0nkeys
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Posted - 2007.02.10 18:24:00 -
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Originally by: slothe
Originally by: Snodgey2004 I do , whenever I think of Goonies I think of Sloth .
mayube i should join up :d
LoL
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Crohnx
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.02.10 18:25:00 -
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Originally by: sesanti Cheers to Goons! Slaughter those cheating pigs!
oh the love
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The Assyrian
Mound of Severed Heads
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Posted - 2007.02.10 18:29:00 -
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Originally by: sesanti Cheers to Goons! Slaughter those cheating pigs!
Seems unreasonable to expect them to kill their allies and then suicide. I guess hope springs eternal.
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Laythun
Black Lance Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.02.10 18:32:00 -
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Originally by: Plutoinum
Originally by: Felysta Sandorn Edited by: Felysta Sandorn on 10/02/2007 17:40:57 First?
We all know BoB will win, but it's good to have a record from the losers side as well! :)
Lol, that made me laugh. That's confidence ! Since AAA and D2&friends have entered the battlefield it looks it gets a tough ride for BoB/LV. I have no idea how this ends. But noone can complain anymore that it's no challenge.
We havnt entered the battlefield at all
Black Lance Brother
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Halada
Caldari STK Scientific INVICTUS.
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Posted - 2007.02.10 18:39:00 -
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Just protect the node reset button and you'll be ok !
Gj so far
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Shin Ra
BURN EDEN GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.02.10 18:41:00 -
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The following screenshot, taken by GIA agents inside LV, proves LV are currently manufacturing a Titan in JV1V: Linkage. LV has approx 30 days to defend this if they want to keep their Titan. Failure to do so will result in the loss of this ship.
The rank and file in LV are being asked to spend massive amounts of playing time keeping this system blobbed up. If every member of LV contributes 100 % of their free time on doing this, you may actually see this Titan materialise. This is what your leaders tell you. I don't believe this is possible given what you face, but I could be wrong.
In the meantime, the rest of your territory is undefended. So much so, that RA was able to start trying out conga lines of dreads when in GB-.
So do the rank and file think itĘs a good idea to sit and wait while you loose all your territory? Why would your leaders ask you to sit tight for so many long hours, as the rest of your territory is taken from you without a fight?
They want the titan so when everything eventually does go to pot, and the way things are going that isnĘt so far away, they get to keep both Titans and you get sweet **** all.
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The Assyrian
Mound of Severed Heads
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Posted - 2007.02.10 18:46:00 -
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Originally by: Shin Ra The following screenshot, taken by GIA agents inside LV, proves LV are currently manufacturing a Titan in JV1V: Linkage. LV has approx 30 days to defend this if they want to keep their Titan. Failure to do so will result in the loss of this ship.
The rank and file in LV are being asked to spend massive amounts of playing time keeping this system blobbed up. If every member of LV contributes 100 % of their free time on doing this, you may actually see this Titan materialise. This is what your leaders tell you. I don't believe this is possible given what you face, but I could be wrong.
In the meantime, the rest of your territory is undefended. So much so, that RA was able to start trying out conga lines of dreads when in GB-.
So do the rank and file think itĘs a good idea to sit and wait while you loose all your territory? Why would your leaders ask you to sit tight for so many long hours, as the rest of your territory is taken from you without a fight?
They want the titan so when everything eventually does go to pot, and the way things are going that isnĘt so far away, they get to keep both Titans and you get sweet **** all.
Or because they realize that Titans are the next level of fleet combat, and that two Titans means your gate camps are worthless and your dread support fleets floating space junk.
Which means you'll be fighting a POS war with undefended dreads. Have fun with that.
But right, it doesn't matter how many ships you lose, how many battles you lose, how much you lose, because somehow you'll prevail in the end. Just like Goonswarm did in Syndicate.
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Lunas Feelgood
Maza Nostra
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Posted - 2007.02.10 18:48:00 -
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Edited by: Lunas Feelgood on 10/02/2007 18:45:01
Originally by: Bellon From our Perpective:
We had 2 cap shipyards in JV1V coming out of reinforced. The stront was coming out in goon primetime (03.00) so we were expecting a chance to score a decisive victory over their (RA and TCFs and the 3-5 that goons own) dreadnaughts.
It soom became apparant (by about 20.00) that the enemy were very serious about the situation. 150 TCF were in M-R preventing any entry to JV1V (in theory), 100+ CA were heading down from 1v-, 150 Goons were in 46DP (3 jumps from JV1V).
As usual, BoB showed balls by jumping into the Goon fleet, and amid massive lag our fleet jumped in from a different direction to assist. That battle quickly went our way, and as we were looting wrecks the node dropped.
On reconnect the remainder of the goon fleet were making a bee-line for M-R and the TCF fleet, we popped another 25 or so by bubbling the exit gate, and then titanned the lot that made it through for a few more kills. Next the combined LV/BoB fleet jumped in and finished off the last of the Goon fleet.
By this point TCF and CA were demanding attention. BoB dealt with TCF (Titan, capital jumping and then fleet jumping) for many kills, and then LV ended the CA fleet with a nice 85 kill Doomsday.
The whole LV/BoB group then protected JV1V for several hours while our POSs were recharged.
A 400 man Goon fleet formed up in DG-, but instead of coming for us (200 or so at this point), they changed plans and went for GB-, the furthest away of all LV outposts systems. RA had put many of the small, unarmed POSs protecting its 68 moons into reinforced the day before so they were able to finish many of them off.
RAGoonTCF can play this off as their plan all they like, but if they hadnt lost upward of 300 ships over the course of the evening, they DEFINATELY would have gone for JV1V.
Today the fighting continues, and is a similar story. You are totally right goons, Kill ratios mean sod all. Unfortunately for you, so do POSs.
What matters is ISK and morale, and while we keep melting BS after BS for minimal losses, we are winning on both fronts.
I dont think you know the goons very well then.. In xzh I persoally lead fleets day out and day slaughering there 300man fleets all the time.. But you know what they just keept comming back for more.. And here is the great part about the goons. they can lose a 300man fleet and get a new one in a matter of hours.. Yes they are that good..
Goons are not normal EVE players i sayd that in xzh and ill say it again.. losses mean nothing tothem.. So GL to you guys, you can slaugheter there fleets over and over again until you get tired or ran out of ammo..
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Superbus Maximus
Gallente Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.02.10 18:48:00 -
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Originally by: Crohnx
Originally by: sesanti Cheers to Goons! Slaughter those cheating pigs!
oh the love
I think you forgot to post with your alt
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Dregann
Amarr Celestial Horizon Corp.
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Posted - 2007.02.10 18:49:00 -
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Nice write ups.
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Sacul
Wreckless Abandon The UnAssociated
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Posted - 2007.02.10 18:50:00 -
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Sooooooooooooo......Reading ur kb correctly.....The Goons have lost 2 Titans? K L --- Titan 0 2
Does your kb include test server km aswell?
Anyway, good fighting guys i hope the lag doesnt kill moral.
--The StoneAge didn't end because we ran out of stones!--
DrunkZ with GunZ 4-ever! |
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Bellon
Shinra Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.02.10 18:53:00 -
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Originally by: Shin Ra The following screenshot, taken by GIA agents inside LV, proves LV are currently manufacturing a Titan in JV1V: Linkage. LV has approx 30 days to defend this if they want to keep their Titan. Failure to do so will result in the loss of this ship.
The rank and file in LV are being asked to spend massive amounts of playing time keeping this system blobbed up. If every member of LV contributes 100 % of their free time on doing this, you may actually see this Titan materialise. This is what your leaders tell you. I don't believe this is possible given what you face, but I could be wrong.
In the meantime, the rest of your territory is undefended. So much so, that RA was able to start trying out conga lines of dreads when in GB-.
So do the rank and file think itĘs a good idea to sit and wait while you loose all your territory? Why would your leaders ask you to sit tight for so many long hours, as the rest of your territory is taken from you without a fight?
They want the titan so when everything eventually does go to pot, and the way things are going that isnĘt so far away, they get to keep both Titans and you get sweet **** all.
Actually leadership hasnt told us anything of the sort. Activity is very high because we are having such a good time (winning is never boring). GoNot so good attempt at propeganda
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goze
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.02.10 18:54:00 -
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Originally by: The Assyrian But right, it doesn't matter how many ships you lose, how many battles you lose, how much you lose, because somehow you'll prevail in the end. Just like Goonswarm did in Syndicate.
I can tell you from personal experience, life after Syndicate has been a living hell what with our nomadic existence as EVE pariahs. Moving from system to system in 0.0, unable to dock at a single station or refit at a single POS and without a friend in sight - I don't know what we were thinking when we tried to fight BoB with frigates! I for one welcome our new BoB overlords; I'll mine as hard as I can in my Reaper and I promise to be the best little bootlicker they'll ever have.
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Dark Shikari
Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.02.10 18:57:00 -
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Edited by: Dark Shikari on 10/02/2007 18:53:45
Originally by: Shin Ra The following screenshot, taken by GIA agents inside LV, proves LV are currently manufacturing a Titan in JV1V: Linkage. LV has approx 30 days to defend this if they want to keep their Titan. Failure to do so will result in the loss of this ship.
The rank and file in LV are being asked to spend massive amounts of playing time keeping this system blobbed up. If every member of LV contributes 100 % of their free time on doing this, you may actually see this Titan materialise. This is what your leaders tell you. I don't believe this is possible given what you face, but I could be wrong.
In the meantime, the rest of your territory is undefended. So much so, that RA was able to start trying out conga lines of dreads when in GB-.
So do the rank and file think itĘs a good idea to sit and wait while you loose all your territory? Why would your leaders ask you to sit tight for so many long hours, as the rest of your territory is taken from you without a fight?
They want the titan so when everything eventually does go to pot, and the way things are going that isnĘt so far away, they get to keep both Titans and you get sweet **** all.
Though I would not at all be surprised if LV is building another Titan, a screenshot is meaningless. Look, now there's a Carrier building! That took me 30 seconds in Paint.
Just being devil's advocate here.
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Sinlare
Gallente Sinlare Auditorium
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Posted - 2007.02.10 18:59:00 -
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Originally by: Lunas Feelgood Edited by: Lunas Feelgood on 10/02/2007 18:45:01
Originally by: Bellon From our Perpective:
We had 2 cap shipyards in JV1V coming out of reinforced. The stront was coming out in goon primetime (03.00) so we were expecting a chance to score a decisive victory over their (RA and TCFs and the 3-5 that goons own) dreadnaughts.
It soom became apparant (by about 20.00) that the enemy were very serious about the situation. 150 TCF were in M-R preventing any entry to JV1V (in theory), 100+ CA were heading down from 1v-, 150 Goons were in 46DP (3 jumps from JV1V).
As usual, BoB showed balls by jumping into the Goon fleet, and amid massive lag our fleet jumped in from a different direction to assist. That battle quickly went our way, and as we were looting wrecks the node dropped.
On reconnect the remainder of the goon fleet were making a bee-line for M-R and the TCF fleet, we popped another 25 or so by bubbling the exit gate, and then titanned the lot that made it through for a few more kills. Next the combined LV/BoB fleet jumped in and finished off the last of the Goon fleet.
By this point TCF and CA were demanding attention. BoB dealt with TCF (Titan, capital jumping and then fleet jumping) for many kills, and then LV ended the CA fleet with a nice 85 kill Doomsday.
The whole LV/BoB group then protected JV1V for several hours while our POSs were recharged.
A 400 man Goon fleet formed up in DG-, but instead of coming for us (200 or so at this point), they changed plans and went for GB-, the furthest away of all LV outposts systems. RA had put many of the small, unarmed POSs protecting its 68 moons into reinforced the day before so they were able to finish many of them off.
RAGoonTCF can play this off as their plan all they like, but if they hadnt lost upward of 300 ships over the course of the evening, they DEFINATELY would have gone for JV1V.
Today the fighting continues, and is a similar story. You are totally right goons, Kill ratios mean sod all. Unfortunately for you, so do POSs.
What matters is ISK and morale, and while we keep melting BS after BS for minimal losses, we are winning on both fronts.
I dont think you know the goons very well then.. In xzh I persoally lead fleets day out and day slaughering there 300man fleets all the time.. But you know what they just keept comming back for more.. And here is the great part about the goons. they can lose a 300man fleet and get a new one in a matter of hours.. Yes they are that good..
Goons are not normal EVE players i sayd that in xzh and ill say it again.. losses mean nothing tothem.. So GL to you guys, you can slaugheter there fleets over and over again until you get tired or ran out of ammo..
Sure, they probably can throw frigates indefinatly at their enemy, maby even cruisers. However, they won't be able to keep throwing battleships at them. Frigates and cruisers won't stop their enemy advancing or defending. The few ships they manage to kill with 300 man frigate or cruisers blobs wont stop any decent alliance. So no, they wont be able to keep it up. Goonswarm is at the mercy of their allies. When their allies stop supplying (as in supplying to goonswarm and flying themselves) battleships it's over. |
Bellon
Shinra Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.02.10 19:01:00 -
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Originally by: Lunas Feelgood
Originally by: Bellon
What matters is ISK and morale, and while we keep melting BS after BS for minimal losses, we are winning on both fronts.
I dont think you know the goons very well then.. In xzh I persoally lead fleets day out and day slaughering there 300man fleets all the time.. But you know what they just keept comming back for more.. And here is the great part about the goons. they can lose a 300man fleet and get a new one in a matter of hours.. Yes they are that good..
Goons are not normal EVE players i sayd that in xzh and ill say it again.. losses mean nothing tothem.. So GL to you guys, you can slaugheter there fleets over and over again until you get tired or ran out of ammo..
This was true when they were all in t1 frigs and had practically free clones. It was still true but less so when their clones cost 3m and they flew cruisers.
Now they are flying BSs + BCs, often t2 fitted, and their clones cost them proper shrapnel.
We KNOW they are heavily in debt (and the 15bn figure told to their members is a LOL.), and while they persist in losing several billion isk AFTER insurance in ships every night, it wont matter how easily they can replace frigs because BSs and BCs arnt so simple.
The modern GOON cant be compared with the one you fought in XGH. This GOON has many many towers to maintain, and terriatorial ambitions that require MUCHO isk, not to mention a TINY cap fleet thats begging for expansion.
Selling GTCs can only pay for so much.
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Troubadour
Slacker Industries Exuro Mortis
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Posted - 2007.02.10 19:03:00 -
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perhaps loosing 1, 2, or 10 battles doesn't bother the goons, but i don't know of a strategy that can win a war by consistently losing battles. There is a point where people either 1. get sick of losing, or 2. run out of money to fight.
goons need to start winning battles at some point if they expect to win the war. I don't see that happening without a titan of their own. 100-300 ships don't mean anything when they can wipe them out/scatter them in one blast.
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Rat Hubble
Shinra Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.02.10 19:04:00 -
[37]
Originally by: Shin Ra The following screenshot, taken by GIA agents inside LV, proves LV are currently manufacturing a Titan in JV1V: Linkage. LV has approx 30 days to defend this if they want to keep their Titan. Failure to do so will result in the loss of this ship.
The rank and file in LV are being asked to spend massive amounts of playing time keeping this system blobbed up. If every member of LV contributes 100 % of their free time on doing this, you may actually see this Titan materialise. This is what your leaders tell you. I don't believe this is possible given what you face, but I could be wrong.
In the meantime, the rest of your territory is undefended. So much so, that RA was able to start trying out conga lines of dreads when in GB-.
So do the rank and file think itĘs a good idea to sit and wait while you loose all your territory? Why would your leaders ask you to sit tight for so many long hours, as the rest of your territory is taken from you without a fight?
They want the titan so when everything eventually does go to pot, and the way things are going that isnĘt so far away, they get to keep both Titans and you get sweet **** all.
Bit late for that propoganda drop, KOS left already
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Frozen Light
Delta team Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.02.10 19:17:00 -
[38]
Please keep this smackfree and keep the updates coming :)
Finally something NON-flaming to read.
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Amerame
Section XIII
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Posted - 2007.02.10 19:17:00 -
[39]
Originally by: Bellon From our Perpective:
What matters is ISK and morale, and while we keep melting BS after BS for minimal losses, we are winning on both fronts.
I guess those 40 or so PoS you lost in Detorid in 24 hours are nothing, neither is the fact that all your regions are besieged and not a single region of your enemies is being threatened ?
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Alizeee
Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2007.02.10 19:26:00 -
[40]
Originally by: Shin Ra The following screenshot, taken by GIA agents inside LV, proves LV are currently manufacturing a Titan in JV1V: Linkage. LV has approx 30 days to defend this if they want to keep their Titan. Failure to do so will result in the loss of this ship.
The rank and file in LV are being asked to spend massive amounts of playing time keeping this system blobbed up. If every member of LV contributes 100 % of their free time on doing this, you may actually see this Titan materialise. This is what your leaders tell you. I don't believe this is possible given what you face, but I could be wrong.
In the meantime, the rest of your territory is undefended. So much so, that RA was able to start trying out conga lines of dreads when in GB-.
So do the rank and file think itĘs a good idea to sit and wait while you loose all your territory? Why would your leaders ask you to sit tight for so many long hours, as the rest of your territory is taken from you without a fight?
They want the titan so when everything eventually does go to pot, and the way things are going that isnĘt so far away, they get to keep both Titans and you get sweet **** all.
So you're saying that BoB/LV will be beating the crap out of you for a whole month ? Oh dear
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Lunas Feelgood
Maza Nostra
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Posted - 2007.02.10 19:27:00 -
[41]
Originally by: Bellon
Originally by: Lunas Feelgood
Originally by: Bellon
What matters is ISK and morale, and while we keep melting BS after BS for minimal losses, we are winning on both fronts.
I dont think you know the goons very well then.. In xzh I persoally lead fleets day out and day slaughering there 300man fleets all the time.. But you know what they just keept comming back for more.. And here is the great part about the goons. they can lose a 300man fleet and get a new one in a matter of hours.. Yes they are that good..
Goons are not normal EVE players i sayd that in xzh and ill say it again.. losses mean nothing tothem.. So GL to you guys, you can slaugheter there fleets over and over again until you get tired or ran out of ammo..
This was true when they were all in t1 frigs and had practically free clones. It was still true but less so when their clones cost 3m and they flew cruisers.
Now they are flying BSs + BCs, often t2 fitted, and their clones cost them proper shrapnel.
We KNOW they are heavily in debt (and the 15bn figure told to their members is a LOL.), and while they persist in losing several billion isk AFTER insurance in ships every night, it wont matter how easily they can replace frigs because BSs and BCs arnt so simple.
The modern GOON cant be compared with the one you fought in XGH. This GOON has many many towers to maintain, and terriatorial ambitions that require MUCHO isk, not to mention a TINY cap fleet thats begging for expansion.
Selling GTCs can only pay for so much.
Very nice post..
And yes you do got a point is not the same goons.. They got towers, a capital fleet to maintain etc.. However there mentality is still the same..
Also its a misconception that in XZH all they had was frigs and cruisers.. Thats not true.. many goons was flying bs and had tech II gunsetc.. However you right not that many like they got now..
But still with the future changes to tech II ammo/Armor HP etv.. Tech II guns is not actually that powerfull as they used to be. That means a normal tech 1 fitted bs can allmost compete with a tech II variant in range.. Im also sure the HP boost gonna have an affect simply becuase it gonna take you a sec long to kill 1 target..
However you do got something we didnt had back then TItans and several of them.. That is a big scarefactor like it.. should be..
But still if BOB and LV gonna use tactics what years of ekspereince have thought you against other entities in EVE.. Im affraid you gonna get dispointed. The goons will keep comming no matter what..
Thats what 6months of fighting against the goons have tought me.. And yes it took me a long time to realise that a fully tech II fleet is not very smart to use against the goons in the long run.
After you have lost you 6 fully tech II fleet bs you start to think: feck this im not gonna lose any more bs to tech 1 frigs..
But still EVE has change alot since then and you got motherships and titans.. Use them well..
But its gonna be very interesting to see how the goons will counter that..
GL to every1
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KhrisKruel
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.02.10 19:27:00 -
[42]
Originally by: Bellon
Originally by: Lunas Feelgood
Originally by: Bellon
What matters is ISK and morale, and while we keep melting BS after BS for minimal losses, we are winning on both fronts.
I dont think you know the goons very well then.. In xzh I persoally lead fleets day out and day slaughering there 300man fleets all the time.. But you know what they just keept comming back for more.. And here is the great part about the goons. they can lose a 300man fleet and get a new one in a matter of hours.. Yes they are that good..
Goons are not normal EVE players i sayd that in xzh and ill say it again.. losses mean nothing tothem.. So GL to you guys, you can slaugheter there fleets over and over again until you get tired or ran out of ammo..
This was true when they were all in t1 frigs and had practically free clones. It was still true but less so when their clones cost 3m and they flew cruisers.
Now they are flying BSs + BCs, often t2 fitted, and their clones cost them proper shrapnel.
We KNOW they are heavily in debt (and the 15bn figure told to their members is a LOL.), and while they persist in losing several billion isk AFTER insurance in ships every night, it wont matter how easily they can replace frigs because BSs and BCs arnt so simple.
The modern GOON cant be compared with the one you fought in XGH. This GOON has many many towers to maintain, and terriatorial ambitions that require MUCHO isk, not to mention a TINY cap fleet thats begging for expansion.
Selling GTCs can only pay for so much.
I want to give you my shape of events last night.
I got off work at 2 pm my time, got on my computer and found out we'd been DD'd twice. Everyone was laughing and half of us we're already drunk. I quickly got my 6 pack of shiner out of the cooler and put on some heavy metal. I jumped into one of my 20 already fitted caracals that I'd been stockpiling since we took SP. After an hour convoy, we arrived in one of your station systems and found out from Remedial that we were going to go destroy all the POS' that RA had put into reinforced the other day. Everyone screamed in elation, realizing that you were all holed up in JV1v and couldn't come to reinforce your outpost, because then we'd just move into Jv1v.
I personally shot at 8 small unarmed POS' with my scourge heavy missiles, inflicting 229 damage a shot. With our numbers, I couldn't reload before it was destroyed. We made a conga line around one pos that had 30 minutes reinforced timer on it, while telling each other filthy stories and taking a shot of alcohol after every destroyed pos.
Finally the cruisers were moved into a system that we believed BoD was going to come through. Remedial asked for a suicide gang to go harass the coming gang, led by a newbie. A newbie that was already drunk and had absolutely no FC experience stepped forward, and 120 x's followed that would blindly follow him into combat. He asked for a scout, and we told him we didn't need scouts where we were going
We finally arrived at the system where the BoD gang was spotted, but it was empty. One of our newbies self destructed his merlin in frustration, and then told us it was an accident and he was so drunk he didn't know what was going on. Everyone immediately said JV1V in gang, and we headed there. Our newbie FC was too drunk to get us there efficiently, so we had a more senior member do it. As we arrived at the final gate, a snigg gang jumped at the gate as well. "EVERYONE JUMP NOW THEY'RE GOING TO STEAL OUR KILLS" was heard on TS...followed by "GUYS REMEMBER TO SELF DESTRUCT WHEN YOU LOAD SO THAT YOU DIE EITHER WAY"
I got on a Tempest killmail and a Thorax killmail, while also killing a fighter before dying. Our newbie FC called primaries, sounding like this, "fargly? fard...ah whatever, he's primary...secondary is..uh...snook? hell i don't know shoot people"
with insurance, I lost 1 mil isk. I have 300 million isk liquid. You do the math.
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D1ck Jones
Old Detroit Crime Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.02.10 19:29:00 -
[43]
Originally by: Amerame
Originally by: Bellon From our Perpective:
What matters is ISK and morale, and while we keep melting BS after BS for minimal losses, we are winning on both fronts.
I guess those 40 or so PoS you lost in Detorid in 24 hours are nothing, neither is the fact that all your regions are besieged and not a single region of your enemies is being threatened ?
Correct me if I am wrong, but didnt those POS have 0 defenses and were all offlined small towers? They were put there simply to cover the moons. Tbh man, that is hardly worth a brag. Much like your thanatos that I just saw on bob's kb.
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Poolpy
dev zero
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Posted - 2007.02.10 19:31:00 -
[44]
Originally by: D1ck Jones
Correct me if I am wrong, but didnt those POS have 0 defenses and were all offlined small towers? They were put there simply to cover the moons. Tbh man, that is hardly worth a brag. Much like your thanatos that I just saw on bob's kb.
And what you do when the poses that covers the moons are destroyed (*hint* deathstar *hint*)? Losing territory, i guess, it's a little bit different than losing some ships...
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Karrimdra
FATAL REVELATIONS FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.10 19:35:00 -
[45]
so lagswarm vs bo(d?)
stop with the whiney devhaxsploitz thing, its old already. From nothing to something in just one corp!
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Hesh Ballantine
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.02.10 19:35:00 -
[46]
Edited by: Hesh Ballantine on 10/02/2007 19:31:55
Originally by: D1ck Jones
Correct me if I am wrong, but didnt those POS have 0 defenses and were all offlined small towers? They were put there simply to cover the moons. Tbh man, that is hardly worth a brag. Much like your thanatos that I just saw on bob's kb.
The point isn't the small tower destruction, it's the 20 billion isk outpost.
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merc999
Caldari Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.02.10 19:36:00 -
[47]
Edited by: merc999 on 10/02/2007 19:33:28
Quote: a snigg gang jumped at the gate as well. "EVERYONE JUMP NOW THEY'RE GOING TO STEAL OUR KILLS"
now thats funny lol, I wasnt there last night but our guys today were all laughing about how they spotted your gang and decided to jump in with you, and only then found out the little matter of the "Suicide" part
You guys are as much fun to fight with as against
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Dark Shikari
Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.02.10 19:38:00 -
[48]
Edited by: Dark Shikari on 10/02/2007 19:34:44
Originally by: Hesh Ballantine
Originally by: D1ck Jones
Correct me if I am wrong, but didnt those POS have 0 defenses and were all offlined small towers? They were put there simply to cover the moons. Tbh man, that is hardly worth a brag. Much like your thanatos that I just saw on bob's kb.
The point isn't the small tower destruction, it's the 20 billion isk outpost.
Personally I wouldn't count outpost gains/losses until the end of war, as they can always be retaken, lost, and retaken again at any time.
Its not that big a deal though; I doubt anyone is bothering to make a spreadsheet of total losses by both sides.
And if someone is, they really need to get out on the battlefield
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D1ck Jones
Old Detroit Crime Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.02.10 19:39:00 -
[49]
Originally by: Poolpy
Originally by: D1ck Jones
Correct me if I am wrong, but didnt those POS have 0 defenses and were all offlined small towers? They were put there simply to cover the moons. Tbh man, that is hardly worth a brag. Much like your thanatos that I just saw on bob's kb.
And what you do when the poses that covers the moons are destroyed (*hint* deathstar *hint*)? Losing territory, i guess, it's a little bit different than losing some ships...
Spending 10B+ isk? have fun refueling that
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Valdis Corick
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.02.10 19:42:00 -
[50]
Edited by: Valdis Corick on 10/02/2007 19:41:32
Originally by: D1ck Jones
Correct me if I am wrong, but didnt those POS have 0 defenses and were all offlined small towers? They were put there simply to cover the moons. Tbh man, that is hardly worth a brag. Much like your thanatos that I just saw on bob's kb.
Oh you definitely are mis-informed. Every single one of those were online, and approx 1/4-1/2 were armed.
But let me share with all you the true goon experience. Nothing is a greater moment when you realize that you have a conga line around an enemy POS (including dreads and battleships) and everyone is firing at them, whether in range or not. Why? Because we're goons.
For all those who think goons will be wiped out and finally crushed, let me leave you with a little bit of wisdom.
"You see Goons never lose, If we're dead, we're dead so nobody cares, If we win we've won, If we run away we can always come back later so Goons never lose you see?"
How many times before have the Goons been "completely crushed". I believe BoB told everyone that the goons were no more and we'd never be in 0.0 space again. Yet, here we are again. You can shoot as many frigates, cruisers, captial ships, stations whatever. It doesn't matter. There will always be goons, and we will always come back for more. Such is the beauty of Goons.
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Lunas Feelgood
Maza Nostra
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Posted - 2007.02.10 19:42:00 -
[51]
Btw am im the only one who miss DP nubsors, rabbel on these forums?
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Basilii
Minmatar Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.02.10 19:43:00 -
[52]
-a- havent entered the fight yet :) cheers laythun in my allince ? feel the love ♥
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David Godfrey
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.02.10 19:47:00 -
[53]
Originally by: Lunas Feelgood Btw am im the only one who miss DP nubsors, rabbel on these forums?
Lunas your still alive Nice to see you guys having fun down south n all enjoy your fights ---------------------------------
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D1ck Jones
Old Detroit Crime Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.02.10 19:48:00 -
[54]
Originally by: Valdis Corick
Oh you definitely are mis-informed. Every single one of those were online, and approx 1/4-1/2 were armed.
If you read up a few posts, you'll notice a fellow goon talking about his caracel shooting an offliend pos.
So, which is it?
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Poolpy
dev zero
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Posted - 2007.02.10 19:51:00 -
[55]
Originally by: D1ck Jones
So, which is it?
Both, doh.
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Martin VanBuren
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.02.10 19:52:00 -
[56]
Originally by: D1ck Jones
If you read up a few posts, you'll notice a fellow goon talking about his caracel shooting an offliend pos.
So, which is it?
Originally by: KhrisKruel
I personally shot at 8 small unarmed POS'!
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Lunas Feelgood
Maza Nostra
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Posted - 2007.02.10 19:54:00 -
[57]
Edited by: Lunas Feelgood on 10/02/2007 19:52:01
Originally by: David Godfrey
Originally by: Lunas Feelgood Btw am im the only one who miss DP nubsors, rabbel on these forums?
Lunas your still alive Nice to see you guys having fun down south n all enjoy your fights
Hmm sorry im kind of retired I only rabble now on these forums.. <-- The new DP nubsor just without all the fancy sentence and alot of typos. Ofc im trying to be as truthfull as possibly to the great legend, that involves alot of self denial and a general tendency to speak of someting i know nothing about but well aslong im heard its all funWell basically a forum *****.
But i log in now and again when i feel the urge just to shoot some1.. well actually i die alot more Btw good to see you allso Godfrey hope you are well and having fun.
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Father Weebles
North Face Force
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Posted - 2007.02.10 19:55:00 -
[58]
is AAA allied with RAGOON or LV?
"Welcome to EVE, where inflation is out of control."
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Sinlare
Gallente Sinlare Auditorium
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Posted - 2007.02.10 19:57:00 -
[59]
Originally by: KhrisKruel
I want to give you my shape of events last night.
I got off work at 2 pm my time, got on my computer and found out we'd been DD'd twice. Everyone was laughing and half of us we're already drunk. I quickly got my 6 pack of shiner out of the cooler and put on some heavy metal. I jumped into one of my 20 already fitted caracals that I'd been stockpiling since we took SP. After an hour convoy, we arrived in one of your station systems and found out from Remedial that we were going to go destroy all the POS' that RA had put into reinforced the other day. Everyone screamed in elation, realizing that you were all holed up in JV1v and couldn't come to reinforce your outpost, because then we'd just move into Jv1v.
I personally shot at 8 small unarmed POS' with my scourge heavy missiles, inflicting 229 damage a shot. With our numbers, I couldn't reload before it was destroyed. We made a conga line around one pos that had 30 minutes reinforced timer on it, while telling each other filthy stories and taking a shot of alcohol after every destroyed pos.
Finally the cruisers were moved into a system that we believed BoD was going to come through. Remedial asked for a suicide gang to go harass the coming gang, led by a newbie. A newbie that was already drunk and had absolutely no FC experience stepped forward, and 120 x's followed that would blindly follow him into combat. He asked for a scout, and we told him we didn't need scouts where we were going
We finally arrived at the system where the BoD gang was spotted, but it was empty. One of our newbies self destructed his merlin in frustration, and then told us it was an accident and he was so drunk he didn't know what was going on. Everyone immediately said JV1V in gang, and we headed there. Our newbie FC was too drunk to get us there efficiently, so we had a more senior member do it. As we arrived at the final gate, a snigg gang jumped at the gate as well. "EVERYONE JUMP NOW THEY'RE GOING TO STEAL OUR KILLS" was heard on TS...followed by "GUYS REMEMBER TO SELF DESTRUCT WHEN YOU LOAD SO THAT YOU DIE EITHER WAY"
I got on a Tempest killmail and a Thorax killmail, while also killing a fighter before dying. Our newbie FC called primaries, sounding like this, "fargly? fard...ah whatever, he's primary...secondary is..uh...snook? hell i don't know shoot people"
with insurance, I lost 1 mil isk. I have 300 million isk liquid. You do the math.
The only thing i see here is that some of you seem to have some sort of alcohol problem. That's gonna cost you alot more then 1 million in an internet spacegame, take care. |
Emrod
Amarr Legion Du Lys Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2007.02.10 19:57:00 -
[60]
Originally by: Felysta Sandorn Edited by: Felysta Sandorn on 10/02/2007 17:40:57 First?
We all know BoB will win, but it's good to have a record from the losers side as well! :)
a Bob fan huh... than we expect to see you in the battlefield defending your Blue God agains the evil Axis of evil we are
Come if you dare
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omni eye
Shinra Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.02.10 19:59:00 -
[61]
As much respect I have for you all guys. I have never seen as hardcore propaganda machine as you Goons run since the Beta of Eve :) Big and loaded every day :)
I'm not writing here stating who lost what and who killed what. It's a game and I respect you as a player, even if you are my "in-game" enemy. Let's just keep this civilized and extremely fun! The most important thing for me is to Log in to have some fun. I don't log in because of hatred towards anyone!
Action's speak louder than words, let's show our results in actions and please have some fun doing it. Don't mix up real life with game play. And always say good fight in local. Just these simple words are what makes us civilized!
See you out there!
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Valdis Corick
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.02.10 20:00:00 -
[62]
Edited by: Valdis Corick on 10/02/2007 19:57:00 Yeah, we shot at numerous UNARMED, but I can personally tell you, from a front row seat in the conga line every single one was online.
Here's another great quote about goons:
"You can't beat goons. If they win they'll root and cheer, get drunk and do something crazy/stupid/hilarious in celebration. Then afterwards they'll come back for more
If they lose they'll root and cheer, get drunk and do something crazy/stupid/hilarious in celebration. Then afterwards they'll come back for more
If they get wiped out they'll root and cheer, get drunk and do something crazy/stupid/hilarious in celebration. Then afterwards they'll reform in a new entity and come back for more."
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KhrisKruel
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.02.10 20:02:00 -
[63]
Originally by: Sinlare
The only thing i see here is that some of you seem to have some sort of alcohol problem. That's gonna cost you alot more then 1 million in an internet spacegame, take care.
tl;dr for you, Bellon claims that ISK and morale are the only factors that judge a battle. My post proves LV will lose this battle assuming he is correct
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Laura Baretta
Minmatar Caelestis Caedes
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Posted - 2007.02.10 20:25:00 -
[64]
LV should name their Titans Pegasus and Galactica. They are that important as tactical and strategic instruments. Good luck against those cylons... err goonies!
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Bellon
Shinra Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.02.10 20:29:00 -
[65]
Originally by: KhrisKruel Edited by: KhrisKruel on 10/02/2007 20:06:49
Originally by: Sinlare
The only thing i see here is that some of you seem to have some sort of alcohol problem. That's gonna cost you alot more then 1 million in an internet spacegame, take care.
tl;dr for you, Bellon claims that ISK and morale are the only factors that judge a battle. My post shows, that for the majority of us goons, LV will lose this battle assuming he is correct
No, at best you have claimed that Goon morale is currently high, on the first day of an offensive war. Good luck in 2 weeks.
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Armois Delgato
FATAL REVELATIONS FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.10 20:35:00 -
[66]
An interesting writeup. I wish BoBLVstar Galactica the very best against the NAP Pack.
Just remember the most important part of fighting the goons: Winning every single battle can still lose a war. You are fighting highly outnumbered- which will make inevitable victory all the more sweet.
Just don't underestimate your foe- there are a lot of them and they don't seem to mind being trounced night after night if it allows them to take out a capital asset or a POS.
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Vahl
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.02.10 20:43:00 -
[67]
Edited by: Vahl on 10/02/2007 20:42:10 Edited by: Vahl on 10/02/2007 20:40:29
Originally by: Bellon
No, at best you have claimed that Goon morale is currently high, on the first day of an offensive war. Good luck in 2 weeks.
First Day? We've been invading southern coalition territory for months. Goons have been in pretty much a non-stop state of war since we left Cloud Ring after the D2 war in XZH. This entire war has been fought in YOUR or your ally's territory. Meanwhile I was shooting POSes in GB- with my main while my mining alt was raking in that sweet arkonor back in Scalding Pass. You're probably right though. I lost a solid 5 million ISK in ammo last night and only made about 60 million ISK mining peacefully in my secure little system with not an enemy in sight. How will I ever recoup the horrible losses inflicted on me by your brutal war campaign?
How much ISk did LV make while babysitting their titan in JV1V last night?
You tell me who is winning this war.
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Lunas Feelgood
Maza Nostra
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Posted - 2007.02.10 20:46:00 -
[68]
Originally by: Vahl Edited by: Vahl on 10/02/2007 20:40:29
Originally by: Bellon
No, at best you have claimed that Goon morale is currently high, on the first day of an offensive war. Good luck in 2 weeks.
First Day? We've been invading southern coalition territory for months. Goons have been in pretty much a non-stop state of war since we left Cloud Ring after the D2 war in XZH. This entire war has been fought in YOUR territory. Meanwhile I was shooting POSes in GB- with my main while my mining alt was raking in that sweet arkonor back in Scalding Pass. You're probably right though. I lost a solid 5 million ISK in ammo last night and only made about 60 million ISK mining peacefully in my secure little system with not an enemy in sight. How will I ever recoup the horrible losses inflicted on me by your brutal war campaign?
How much ISk did LV make while babysitting their titan in JV1V last night?
You tell me who is winning this war.
Lol the goons has been tought well in the art of propaganda
keep it up its cool to see the new kids on the bloke starting to evol like every1 sayd you would back in the day
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Jags
Minmatar M. Corp Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.02.10 20:52:00 -
[69]
Originally by: Vahl How much ISk did LV make while babysitting their titan in JV1V last night?
Irrelevant since we get ISK from the Devs , dont we ???
(ps this is a joke for those short on comprehension and a sense of humour)
pps. Having good fun in this tbh , much more than I thought I would. Can u Goons bring some of that beer down with ya later on ? We are running out. KThxBye
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KhrisKruel
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.02.10 21:04:00 -
[70]
Originally by: Bellon
Originally by: KhrisKruel
tl;dr for you, Bellon claims that ISK and morale are the only factors that judge a battle. My post shows, that for the majority of us goons, LV will lose this battle assuming he is correct
No, at best you have claimed that Goon morale is currently high, on the first day of an offensive war. Good luck in 2 weeks.
The best part of your posts is that you really think us doing what I said everynight is going to drive our morale into the ground. You think that losing 50 of my caracals to your fleets is going to hurt my morale? I obviously didn't want to lose my ship on that suicide op.
I'll keep you updated on my morale as we take over your outposts that your alliance bought and paid for while losing frigs and cruisers
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Phoenicia
Macabre Votum Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2007.02.10 21:06:00 -
[71]
29 days till completion huh?
It would totally rock if the strike fleet goes in and then some LV says "Now witness the firepower of this fully ARMED AND OPERATIONAL TITAN!"
*ahem*
Carry on.
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Elve Sorrow
Amarr Shinra Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.02.10 21:08:00 -
[72]
<3 Phoenicia.
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Martyr 01
Shinra Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.02.10 21:15:00 -
[73]
Phoe!
\o/
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Widebrant
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.02.10 21:17:00 -
[74]
Originally by: Sinlare The only thing i see here is that some of you seem to have some sort of alcohol problem. That's gonna cost you alot more then 1 million in an internet spacegame, take care.
Hey I'm not an alcoholic, I'm a drunk! >:(
Alcoholics go to meetings.
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Lowa
Gallente North Star Networks Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2007.02.10 21:17:00 -
[75]
If I had the power this thread would only be like three posts; OP, Bellon, Khris Kruel.
Since those are the only interesting once talking about battles and stuff! Loved the Snigg/Goonicide story! Talk about "taking the wrong turn"!
More guns, less poo!
Cheers, Lowa
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Valdis Corick
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.02.10 21:17:00 -
[76]
Remeber, a goon's morale is not linked to battlefield performance, but to the alcohol content of our blood. And boy have we been stockpiling for these coming days
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Shaemell Buttleson
Darwin With Attitude
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Posted - 2007.02.10 21:20:00 -
[77]
Originally by: David Godfrey
Originally by: Lunas Feelgood Btw am im the only one who miss DP nubsors, rabbel on these forums?
Lunas your still alive Nice to see you guys having fun down south n all enjoy your fights
I miss him as well but I think he is leading a shuttle gang to Jita at the moment just to prove you wrong!
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Lunas Feelgood
Maza Nostra
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Posted - 2007.02.10 21:24:00 -
[78]
Originally by: Shaemell Buttleson
Originally by: David Godfrey
Originally by: Lunas Feelgood Btw am im the only one who miss DP nubsors, rabbel on these forums?
Lunas your still alive Nice to see you guys having fun down south n all enjoy your fights
I miss him as well but I think he is leading a shuttle gang to Jita at the moment just to prove you wrong!
Hehe well the state of my pvp skills is so low atm becuase of months of being inactive that i shouldnt lead any fleets except shuttle fleets.. Hmm maybe i should go and give DBP a hand
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Rashonna
2H Industries
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Posted - 2007.02.10 21:25:00 -
[79]
Originally by: Sinlare
Originally by: KhrisKruel
I want to give you my shape of events last night.
I got off work at 2 pm my time, got on my computer and found out we'd been DD'd twice. Everyone was laughing and half of us we're already drunk. I quickly got my 6 pack of shiner out of the cooler and put on some heavy metal. I jumped into one of my 20 already fitted caracals that I'd been stockpiling since we took SP. After an hour convoy, we arrived in one of your station systems and found out from Remedial that we were going to go destroy all the POS' that RA had put into reinforced the other day. Everyone screamed in elation, realizing that you were all holed up in JV1v and couldn't come to reinforce your outpost, because then we'd just move into Jv1v.
I personally shot at 8 small unarmed POS' with my scourge heavy missiles, inflicting 229 damage a shot. With our numbers, I couldn't reload before it was destroyed. We made a conga line around one pos that had 30 minutes reinforced timer on it, while telling each other filthy stories and taking a shot of alcohol after every destroyed pos.
Finally the cruisers were moved into a system that we believed BoD was going to come through. Remedial asked for a suicide gang to go harass the coming gang, led by a newbie. A newbie that was already drunk and had absolutely no FC experience stepped forward, and 120 x's followed that would blindly follow him into combat. He asked for a scout, and we told him we didn't need scouts where we were going
We finally arrived at the system where the BoD gang was spotted, but it was empty. One of our newbies self destructed his merlin in frustration, and then told us it was an accident and he was so drunk he didn't know what was going on. Everyone immediately said JV1V in gang, and we headed there. Our newbie FC was too drunk to get us there efficiently, so we had a more senior member do it. As we arrived at the final gate, a snigg gang jumped at the gate as well. "EVERYONE JUMP NOW THEY'RE GOING TO STEAL OUR KILLS" was heard on TS...followed by "GUYS REMEMBER TO SELF DESTRUCT WHEN YOU LOAD SO THAT YOU DIE EITHER WAY"
I got on a Tempest killmail and a Thorax killmail, while also killing a fighter before dying. Our newbie FC called primaries, sounding like this, "fargly? fard...ah whatever, he's primary...secondary is..uh...snook? hell i don't know shoot people"
with insurance, I lost 1 mil isk. I have 300 million isk liquid. You do the math.
The only thing i see here is that some of you seem to have some sort of alcohol problem. That's gonna cost you alot more then 1 million in an internet spacegame, take care.
The main problem being, that you run out of the stuff and have to go to the off-licence to get some more
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Fabienne Sovicou
Gallente LV2 Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.02.10 21:28:00 -
[80]
Originally by: Shin Ra The following screenshot, taken by GIA agents inside LV, proves LV are currently manufacturing a Titan in JV1V: Linkage. LV has approx 30 days to defend this if they want to keep their Titan. Failure to do so will result in the loss of this ship.
The rank and file in LV are being asked to spend massive amounts of playing time keeping this system blobbed up. If every member of LV contributes 100 % of their free time on doing this, you may actually see this Titan materialise. This is what your leaders tell you. I don't believe this is possible given what you face, but I could be wrong.
In the meantime, the rest of your territory is undefended. So much so, that RA was able to start trying out conga lines of dreads when in GB-.
So do the rank and file think itĘs a good idea to sit and wait while you loose all your territory? Why would your leaders ask you to sit tight for so many long hours, as the rest of your territory is taken from you without a fight?
They want the titan so when everything eventually does go to pot, and the way things are going that isnĘt so far away, they get to keep both Titans and you get sweet **** all.
You are wrong. LV would trade any titan for the loss of your coalition dread fleet. For this will turn the tide fully in LV and BoB's favour.
Bring the dread fleet, maybe you will kill our capital POS, or maybe YOU loose your entire dread fleet. The risk is there to be taken. LV takes risks when manufacturing Super Capital ships, every alliance does. To take such systems though, you must also be willing to loose an equal amount.
Killing 20-30 of your dreadnoughts (which we will do it's only a matter of time) will be of more value to LV than any Titan or Mothership that may be in production.
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Shadowsword
COLSUP Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2007.02.10 21:31:00 -
[81]
Originally by: The Assyrian
Or because they realize that Titans are the next level of fleet combat, and that two Titans means your gate camps are worthless and your dread support fleets floating space junk.
Which means you'll be fighting a POS war with undefended dreads. Have fun with that.
And do you think CCP want that? A game that ends up at who got more titans than his enemies? It's only a matter of time before they get hit severely with the nerf bat... ------------------------------------------ Every ship has a base 60-70% resist against the primary damage type of the race that is the least able to vary it's damage types. |
Griefer Troll
Troll Industries
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Posted - 2007.02.10 21:33:00 -
[82]
Originally by: Sinlare
The only thing i see here is that some of you seem to have some sort of alcohol problem. That's gonna cost you alot more then 1 million in an internet spacegame, take care.
The only thing I see here is a the alt character of a proven cheater, who has a serious problem in that he is being a sanctimonious a$$hole. Get out more, because eve is over for you cheater.
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Shiraz Merlot
Octavian Vanguard RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.10 21:35:00 -
[83]
Originally by: Bellon You are totally right goons, Kill ratios mean sod all. Unfortunately for you, so do POSs.
If this is LV's real strategic view, they're in trouble.
All the LV posts here smell like spin, though.
It's that sweaty, metallic smell of fear.
Clip, clop.
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Griefer Troll
Troll Industries
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Posted - 2007.02.10 21:38:00 -
[84]
Originally by: Shadowsword
And do you think CCP want that? A game that ends up at who got more titans than his enemies? It's only a matter of time before they get hit severely with the nerf bat...
Wekk I thought the EULA was a statement of some of the things CCP want. But apparently things are actually a bit more complicated than that, it kind of depends which side you are on as to which parts apply.
So if it is BoB Titans wiping out Goon support fleets and generally being solo pwnmobiles, then I'd say yes that is exactly what CCP wants. If it was the other way round, and RAGoon was pwning BoB to hell with a fellt of 10 Titans, then I'd say, no it's not what cp wants.
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Deeviant
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Posted - 2007.02.10 21:42:00 -
[85]
Originally by: Fabienne Sovicou .
Killing 20-30 of your dreadnoughts (which we will do it's only a matter of time) will be of more value to LV than any Titan or Mothership that may be in production.
I'm sorry, do you guys even have any dreads left? I've been outta the loop for a bit and the last I heard you lost more dreads in one battle against our alliance than any other fleet in the history of EVE.
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Icorion
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.02.10 21:48:00 -
[86]
Originally by: Fabienne Sovicou Killing 20-30 of your dreadnoughts (which we will do it's only a matter of time)
i'm not big on propaganda here brosef, but considering you've killed a grand total of two dreads so far, it might be a little unreasonable to talk about killing 20-30 of our dreads as some kind of inevitability
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Shadowsword
COLSUP Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2007.02.10 21:49:00 -
[87]
Originally by: Deeviant
I'm sorry, do you guys even have any dreads left?
Little birds tell me they bought some dreads from another alliance. Seems like replacing their losses isn't as easy as they want everyone to believe... ------------------------------------------ Every ship has a base 60-70% resist against the primary damage type of the race that is the least able to vary it's damage types. |
Everbane
Underworld Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.02.10 21:50:00 -
[88]
Originally by: Fabienne Sovicou
Originally by: Shin Ra The following screenshot, taken by GIA agents inside LV, proves LV are currently manufacturing a Titan in JV1V: Linkage. LV has approx 30 days to defend this if they want to keep their Titan. Failure to do so will result in the loss of this ship.
The rank and file in LV are being asked to spend massive amounts of playing time keeping this system blobbed up. If every member of LV contributes 100 % of their free time on doing this, you may actually see this Titan materialise. This is what your leaders tell you. I don't believe this is possible given what you face, but I could be wrong.
In the meantime, the rest of your territory is undefended. So much so, that RA was able to start trying out conga lines of dreads when in GB-.
So do the rank and file think itĘs a good idea to sit and wait while you loose all your territory? Why would your leaders ask you to sit tight for so many long hours, as the rest of your territory is taken from you without a fight?
They want the titan so when everything eventually does go to pot, and the way things are going that isnĘt so far away, they get to keep both Titans and you get sweet **** all.
You are wrong. LV would trade any titan for the loss of your coalition dread fleet. For this will turn the tide fully in LV and BoB's favour.
Bring the dread fleet, maybe you will kill our capital POS, or maybe YOU loose your entire dread fleet. The risk is there to be taken. LV takes risks when manufacturing Super Capital ships, every alliance does. To take such systems though, you must also be willing to loose an equal amount.
Killing 20-30 of your dreadnoughts (which we will do it's only a matter of time) will be of more value to LV than any Titan or Mothership that may be in production.
Incubating someones Titan for 29 long days and nights knowing your never gonna fly it sound like a blast! That must be a hard deal to sell to the lowley peons or are they brain dead already? I hope your supplying free caffeine pills so they don't fall asleep on the job.
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Amerame
Section XIII
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Posted - 2007.02.10 21:51:00 -
[89]
Originally by: Fabienne Sovicou
Killing 20-30 of your dreadnoughts (which we will do it's only a matter of time)
So says the alliance that lost the most dreads in Eve history.
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Malachon Draco
eXceed Inc. INVICTUS.
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Posted - 2007.02.10 21:53:00 -
[90]
From what I hear, a POS in reinforced cancels or resets the buildtime...
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Zoltaris
COLSUP Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2007.02.10 22:02:00 -
[91]
Originally by: Malachon Draco From what I hear, a POS in reinforced cancels or resets the buildtime...
No, it just put the Capital (and others) Assembly Array offline, and while offline, the construction is paused, which means that if the POS was in reinforced for a day, the build time is also increased by 1 day -----
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Baroti
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.02.10 22:19:00 -
[92]
I was all happy ready to go and an ally blew me up! ____________________
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Abominog
Gallente Pyrrhon's Salvage Unlimited
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Posted - 2007.02.10 22:51:00 -
[93]
Originally by: Widebrant
Hey I'm not an alcoholic, I'm a drunk! >:(
Alcoholics go to meetings.
ahahahahaah thank you I really needed that
.......go to meetings ....lol thats so funny
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D2O HeavyWater
Amarr Synergy. Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.02.10 23:02:00 -
[94]
LMFAO superb thread. GO GO Goons.
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Tasuric Orka
Antares Fleet Yards SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.10 23:26:00 -
[95]
Edited by: Tasuric Orka on 10/02/2007 23:22:38 We have beaten LV back into their fortress system after a relentless campaign towards Endor, their BoB allies have not been spotted and we have full control of the situation.
Now only if we could get these standing issues sorted out.. watching goons slaughter friendlies for four hours ftl.
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Schlieren Altiprlayle
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.02.10 23:29:00 -
[96]
Khefron, nice write-up, keep it going even if only on our home forums.
Bellon, nice rebuttle write-up, always interesting to get the persepective from the red star's side.
Goons who write about "how awesome it is to be a goon", you are tiresome, embarrassing, and vaguely irritating, that unliked kid in school for whom no matter how hard I tried I nevertheless could find no pity. There's this mind-boggling conceit you seem to possess wherein somehow your experiences ought to be considered more significant, more valid, more fun. It's no wonder you end up unintentionally insulting so many neutral parties. No one cares how wasted you got, how inexperienced our FC was, how much you revel in nonsense and hijinks and a general irreverence for standard mores. What pretense, what arrogant presumption! You shame yourselves in such a way that thumbing your noses to it all seems more like an admission of ideological defeat than playful non-chalance. You're trying much too hard, and the goon doth protest too much, methinks.
I understand that there are other, more constructive intentions behind these flubbed attempts at explaining why our alliance might have an advantage not often mentioned, but they don't translate very well out-of-context. I don't mind that we're allowed to post, but I'll be damned if I'm going to let this impression inform those not privy to our own perspective. Theirs has just as much claim to authenticity as yours.
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PirateShampoo
UK Corp Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.02.10 23:38:00 -
[97]
Originally by: Shadowsword
Originally by: Deeviant
I'm sorry, do you guys even have any dreads left?
Little birds tell me they bought some dreads from another alliance. Seems like replacing their losses isn't as easy as they want everyone to believe...
Lol, Dreads can be purchased easily and openly from many of the capitial ship companies, I mean Cyberdine R-D sells them on the open market in lonetrek.
I know many many LV have more than enough ISK to buy a number of dreads each, the reason that LV do not have more dreads is that people don't want to or don't have the skills to fly them. Replacing dread losses is not hard these days.
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welsh wizard
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.02.10 23:41:00 -
[98]
Tbh I think BoB's fate has already been sealed with the (temporary?) alliance forum ban.
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Rudy Metallo
Minmatar G.H.O.S.T
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Posted - 2007.02.10 23:47:00 -
[99]
I thought the Saga of the Fleet Commander was pretty ******* funny.
Give BoD hell
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Tasuric Orka
Antares Fleet Yards SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.10 23:48:00 -
[100]
BoB ban? You are kidding right?
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Menf
Seraphin Technologies S.E.R.A
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Posted - 2007.02.11 00:02:00 -
[101]
The Blogs are nice and if you read both sides reports you get an good overview.
But why they need to discuss, who will win the war at forum over and over again...you could shoot each other and have fun while you post.
so step on the battlefield and fight. _____________________________________________
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Kaaii
Caldari Equilibrium LLC United Confederation of Corporations
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Posted - 2007.02.11 00:04:00 -
[102]
Originally by: Schlieren Altiprlayle Khefron, nice write-up, keep it going even if only on our home forums.
Bellon, nice rebuttle write-up, always interesting to get the persepective from the red star's side.
Goons who write about "how awesome it is to be a goon", you are tiresome, embarrassing, and vaguely irritating, that unliked kid in school for whom no matter how hard I tried I nevertheless could find no pity. There's this mind-boggling conceit you seem to possess wherein somehow your experiences ought to be considered more significant, more valid, more fun. It's no wonder you end up unintentionally insulting so many neutral parties. No one cares how wasted you got, how inexperienced our FC was, how much you revel in nonsense and hijinks and a general irreverence for standard mores. What pretense, what arrogant presumption! You shame yourselves in such a way that thumbing your noses to it all seems more like an admission of ideological defeat than playful non-chalance. You're trying much too hard, and the goon doth protest too much, methinks.
I understand that there are other, more constructive intentions behind these flubbed attempts at explaining why our alliance might have an advantage not often mentioned, but they don't translate very well out-of-context. I don't mind that we're allowed to post, but I'll be damned if I'm going to let this impression inform those not privy to our own perspective. Theirs has just as much claim to authenticity as yours.
What the heck are you doing in goonspam??
If ever there was a miss-placed soul, you Schlieren are it, you deserve a better home...
Trading 101
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KhrisKruel
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.02.11 00:20:00 -
[103]
Edited by: KhrisKruel on 11/02/2007 00:17:30
Originally by: Schlieren Altiprlayle Khefron, nice write-up, keep it going even if only on our home forums.
Bellon, nice rebuttle write-up, always interesting to get the persepective from the red star's side.
Goons who write about "how awesome it is to be a goon", you are tiresome, embarrassing, and vaguely irritating, that unliked kid in school for whom no matter how hard I tried I nevertheless could find no pity. There's this mind-boggling conceit you seem to possess wherein somehow your experiences ought to be considered more significant, more valid, more fun. It's no wonder you end up unintentionally insulting so many neutral parties. No one cares how wasted you got, how inexperienced our FC was, how much you revel in nonsense and hijinks and a general irreverence for standard mores. What pretense, what arrogant presumption! You shame yourselves in such a way that thumbing your noses to it all seems more like an admission of ideological defeat than playful non-chalance. You're trying much too hard, and the goon doth protest too much, methinks.
I understand that there are other, more constructive intentions behind these flubbed attempts at explaining why our alliance might have an advantage not often mentioned, but they don't translate very well out-of-context. I don't mind that we're allowed to post, but I'll be damned if I'm going to let this impression inform those not privy to our own perspective. Theirs has just as much claim to authenticity as yours.
Post edited for retraction. I apologize to anyone who took my post out of context. The meaning behind it was buried too deep and it is much too easy to take out of context. I sincerely apologize to anyone who saw my post as conceited or arrogant, because that was not the intention of the post. Schlieren is completely correct.
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Ikarushka
A.O.U. Corp
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Posted - 2007.02.11 00:31:00 -
[104]
Originally by: Shin Ra The following screenshot, taken by GIA agents inside LV, proves LV are currently manufacturing a Titan in JV1V: Linkage. LV has approx 30 days to defend this if they want to keep their Titan. Failure to do so will result in the loss of this ship.
The rank and file in LV are being asked to spend massive amounts of playing time keeping this system blobbed up. If every member of LV contributes 100 % of their free time on doing this, you may actually see this Titan materialise. This is what your leaders tell you. I don't believe this is possible given what you face, but I could be wrong.
In the meantime, the rest of your territory is undefended. So much so, that RA was able to start trying out conga lines of dreads when in GB-.
So do the rank and file think itĘs a good idea to sit and wait while you loose all your territory? Why would your leaders ask you to sit tight for so many long hours, as the rest of your territory is taken from you without a fight?
They want the titan so when everything eventually does go to pot, and the way things are going that isnĘt so far away, they get to keep both Titans and you get sweet **** all.
is it just me or Shin ra posted screenies before?
Sig removed. Please keep it in English. -Conuion Meow ([email protected])
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Anatolli Korenchken
AUS Corporation CORE.
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Posted - 2007.02.11 01:00:00 -
[105]
Originally by: KhrisKruel Edited by: KhrisKruel on 11/02/2007 00:17:30
Originally by: Schlieren Altiprlayle Khefron, nice write-up, keep it going even if only on our home forums.
Bellon, nice rebuttle write-up, always interesting to get the persepective from the red star's side.
Goons who write about "how awesome it is to be a goon", you are tiresome, embarrassing, and vaguely irritating, that unliked kid in school for whom no matter how hard I tried I nevertheless could find no pity. There's this mind-boggling conceit you seem to possess wherein somehow your experiences ought to be considered more significant, more valid, more fun. It's no wonder you end up unintentionally insulting so many neutral parties. No one cares how wasted you got, how inexperienced our FC was, how much you revel in nonsense and hijinks and a general irreverence for standard mores. What pretense, what arrogant presumption! You shame yourselves in such a way that thumbing your noses to it all seems more like an admission of ideological defeat than playful non-chalance. You're trying much too hard, and the goon doth protest too much, methinks.
I understand that there are other, more constructive intentions behind these flubbed attempts at explaining why our alliance might have an advantage not often mentioned, but they don't translate very well out-of-context. I don't mind that we're allowed to post, but I'll be damned if I'm going to let this impression inform those not privy to our own perspective. Theirs has just as much claim to authenticity as yours.
Post edited for retraction. I apologize to anyone who took my post out of context. The meaning behind it was buried too deep and it is much too easy to take out of context. I sincerely apologize to anyone who saw my post as conceited or arrogant, because that was not the intention of the post. Schlieren is completely correct.
Nooooo.. don't listen to this bookworm, your post was what made this thread enjoyable to read as far as i'm concerned.
This is a GAME ffs, people want to have fun and READ about people having fun! ---------------
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Infi8niti
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Posted - 2007.02.11 01:27:00 -
[106]
Originally by: Kaaii
What the heck are you doing in goonspam??
If ever there was a miss-placed soul, you Schlieren are it, you deserve a better home...
I couldn't agree more
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Cpt Pugwash
BURN EDEN GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.02.11 02:24:00 -
[107]
Originally by: Troubadour perhaps loosing 1, 2, or 10 battles doesn't bother the goons, but i don't know of a strategy that can win a war by consistently losing battles. There is a point where people either 1. get sick of losing, or 2. run out of money to fight.
goons need to start winning battles at some point if they expect to win the war. I don't see that happening without a titan of their own. 100-300 ships don't mean anything when they can wipe them out/scatter them in one blast.
Sounds like you need an introduction to the concept of a Pyrrhic victory
Another such victory over the Goons and we are undone
Movies: Make Mine a Bob Light
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Don Yokushi
Kudzu Collective
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Posted - 2007.02.11 02:36:00 -
[108]
Originally by: Schlieren Altiprlayle Khefron, nice write-up, keep it going even if only on our home forums.
Bellon, nice rebuttle write-up, always interesting to get the persepective from the red star's side.
Goons who write about "how awesome it is to be a goon", you are tiresome, embarrassing, and vaguely irritating, that unliked kid in school for whom no matter how hard I tried I nevertheless could find no pity. There's this mind-boggling conceit you seem to possess wherein somehow your experiences ought to be considered more significant, more valid, more fun. It's no wonder you end up unintentionally insulting so many neutral parties. No one cares how wasted you got, how inexperienced our FC was, how much you revel in nonsense and hijinks and a general irreverence for standard mores. What pretense, what arrogant presumption! You shame yourselves in such a way that thumbing your noses to it all seems more like an admission of ideological defeat than playful non-chalance. You're trying much too hard, and the goon doth protest too much, methinks.
I understand that there are other, more constructive intentions behind these flubbed attempts at explaining why our alliance might have an advantage not often mentioned, but they don't translate very well out-of-context. I don't mind that we're allowed to post, but I'll be damned if I'm going to let this impression inform those not privy to our own perspective. Theirs has just as much claim to authenticity as yours.
Personally, I found it hilarious. Antics like that make me think better of Goons, but then again, I'm a bit eccentric myself.
Keep going. I need more laughs in my life, and you guys provide it while also doing well in the war.
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capt robn0id2
Amarr Igneus Auctorita
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Posted - 2007.02.11 02:40:00 -
[109]
For the purposes of battle reports, perhaps if LV stopped using the term "we" and inserted "BoD" when recounting victories. We all know till BoD came, this war was already over. Unless u consider the twitchings of a recently dead man as "throwing punches".
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Bellon
Shinra Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.02.11 03:07:00 -
[110]
Edited by: Bellon on 11/02/2007 03:04:41
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Bellon
Shinra Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.02.11 03:08:00 -
[111]
Edited by: Bellon on 11/02/2007 03:05:00
Originally by: capt robn0id2 For the purposes of battle reports, perhaps if LV stopped using the term "we" and inserted "BoD" when recounting victories. We all know till BoD came, this war was already over. Unless u consider the twitchings of a recently dead man as "throwing punches".
I made it extremely clear in my account which battles were us and which were Bob.
Ps: Schil; what is someone like you doing with the mouthbreathers?
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Roka Beiden
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Posted - 2007.02.11 04:24:00 -
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Originally by: Valdis Corick
For all those who think goons will be wiped out and finally crushed, let me leave you with a little bit of wisdom.
"You see Goons never lose, If we're dead, we're dead so nobody cares, If we win we've won, If we run away we can always come back later so Goons never lose you see?"
I feel obligated to point out that you butchered that quote:
"Orkses (goons) is never defeated in battle. If We win we win, if we die we die, so it don't count as defeat, If we runs for it we don't die neither, so we can always come back for anuvver go, see!"
WH40k Orks are a pretty darn good match up for the goon personality though. Best of luck you guys.
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Admentus Cor'vion
Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.02.11 05:39:00 -
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Edited by: Admentus Cor''vion on 11/02/2007 05:40:50
Originally by: Cpt Pugwash
Originally by: Troubadour perhaps loosing 1, 2, or 10 battles doesn't bother the goons, but i don't know of a strategy that can win a war by consistently losing battles. There is a point where people either 1. get sick of losing, or 2. run out of money to fight.
goons need to start winning battles at some point if they expect to win the war. I don't see that happening without a titan of their own. 100-300 ships don't mean anything when they can wipe them out/scatter them in one blast.
Sounds like you need an introduction to the concept of a Pyrrhic victory
Another such victory over the Goons and we are undone
Would you explain how an alliance over 30+ mn sp chars burns out of money and motivation to murder? Certainly not after defeating there foes consistantly and soundly? I mean are you LITERALLY drawing a paralell to the roman empire and goons? More consistantly the case is the exact opposite. Many people will win small victories against BOB, but at devastating costs to which don't amount to victory in the long run. TIME AND AGAIN.
You may yes repel an invasion, gain an objective, sound the horns and cheer, but kill death ratios are important for the two facts. 1. Sick of loosing, 2. run out of money to fight.
In Addenum : There is a much bigger reason and glaring issue to your corpmate hailing Bob's doom in another thread and hoping that they catch rats that jump ship. Your first going to have to set the ship on fire before you catch anything coming your way; and even then I wouldn't expect them to be the hardened PVP veterans that you hoped to but more then likely the dead weight that latches itself onto every alliance at one time or another.
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Dionysus Davinci
BURTREYNOLDS
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Posted - 2007.02.11 06:33:00 -
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Originally by: Admentus Cor'vion
I mean are you LITERALLY drawing a paralell to the roman empire and goons? More consistantly the case is the exact opposite. Many people will win small victories against BOB, but at devastating costs to which don't amount to victory in the long run. TIME AND AGAIN.
First of all, Pyrrhus wasn't Roman, second, the Roman Empire didn't exist then and wouldn't for another 250 years or so. Third, look up what "Literally" actually means.
Also, yeah he IS drawing a parallel to the Roman Republic and it's a pretty apt one.
"The armies separated; and, it is said, Pyrrhus replied to one that gave him joy of his victory that one more such victory would utterly undo him. For he had lost a great part of the forces he brought with him, and almost all his particular friends and principal commanders; there were no others there to make recruits, and he found the confederates in Italy backward. On the other hand, as from a fountain continually flowing out of the city, the Roman camp was quickly and plentifully filled up with fresh men, not at all abating in courage for the loss they sustained, but even from their very anger gaining new force and resolution to go on with the war."
In Addendum : Shut up.
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Admentus Cor'vion
Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.02.11 06:57:00 -
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Originally by: Dionysus Davinci
Originally by: Admentus Cor'vion
I mean are you LITERALLY drawing a paralell to the roman empire and goons? More consistantly the case is the exact opposite. Many people will win small victories against BOB, but at devastating costs to which don't amount to victory in the long run. TIME AND AGAIN.
First of all, Pyrrhus wasn't Roman, second, the Roman Empire didn't exist then and wouldn't for another 250 years or so. Third, look up what "Literally" actually means.
Also, yeah he IS drawing a parallel to the Roman Republic and it's a pretty apt one.
"The armies separated; and, it is said, Pyrrhus replied to one that gave him joy of his victory that one more such victory would utterly undo him. For he had lost a great part of the forces he brought with him, and almost all his particular friends and principal commanders; there were no others there to make recruits, and he found the confederates in Italy backward. On the other hand, as from a fountain continually flowing out of the city, the Roman camp was quickly and plentifully filled up with fresh men, not at all abating in courage for the loss they sustained, but even from their very anger gaining new force and resolution to go on with the war."
In Addendum : Shut up.
In response to that, I think you might have missed what I was drawing there.
Pugwash implied that LV + Band of Brothers were shedding and loosing large amounts of ships, and didn't have many of those types of "wins" left in them.
Upon reading a little more, I'll rewind and try and emphasize that while yes, this particular comment may have been more geared at LV, but this is no longer LV versus RAGOONS, this is BOB + LV versus RAGOONS.
Realize that GOONS aren't following on a similar path as the Roman Republic (later to become the roman empire), and that BOB has imperialism in spades, not just by attitude but by trackrecord.
Coming back to my ghastly response, yeah I could of been a bit clearer. I would only say that you would find more paralells in BOB being the Roman Republic in this case, having nothing but a relentless supply of eager and angry soldiers. Not the other way around.
In Addendum : Thanks for calling out my lazy posting.
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tyrol
E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.02.11 08:16:00 -
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Sounds like the goons are having a blast! Nice write up, i enjoyed reading that. Hey foto, can we make conga lines mandatory in fleets? :D
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pershphanie
Generals Of Destruction Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.02.11 08:18:00 -
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Originally by: Felysta Sandorn Edited by: Felysta Sandorn on 10/02/2007 17:40:57 First?
We all know BoB will win, but it's good to have a record from the losers side as well! :)
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Dravun
ZiTek Deepspace Explorations Prime Orbital Systems
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Posted - 2007.02.11 14:46:00 -
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Edited by: Dravun on 11/02/2007 14:44:11 Edited by: Dravun on 11/02/2007 14:44:02 - Post Removed -
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God's Army
Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.02.11 15:26:00 -
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Long life the warrios of God R0ADKILL ALLIANCE Killboard |
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