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ARES-DESIDERATUS
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2016.03.31 16:09:13 -
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Can we get a Merlin hull redesign, similar to the one we got with the Incursus? What they did with the Incursus was basically perfect; they took any bad parts of it and fixed it to make it a proper-looking juggernaut that it should be. The lance sticking out was shortened and made more reasonable and the ship was just tightened up in general.
I feel like a similar update should be done with the Merlin, especially with it's big bird beak head thing. If they could get rid of that and put in a less pronounced "bridge" area resting on the top of the hull where the three wings meet it would look so sick, instead of the current "big bird beak face mask" that is sitting on top of the hull.
I realize this is all down to opinion but if you disagree with this then your opinion is just garbage.
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Rovinia
Exotic Dancers Union SONS of BANE
484
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Posted - 2016.03.31 16:21:52 -
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ARES-DESIDERATUS wrote:I realize this is all down to opinion but if you disagree with this then your opinion is just garbage.
That's a strange attitude for a DISCUSSION forum, isn't it?
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Dror
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
63
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Posted - 2016.03.31 17:55:45 -
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I'm sure a non-monetized method of getting SKINs would be fine.
Edit: Sweet heaven, customization options that don't drop in game, with a subscription?
"SP is helpful for the game?" Here's all of the research on motivation -- it says the opposite! What purpose does it serve, then? Starter corps are non-competitive. Sov is unchallenged. "Fix sov!" you say? Remove SP.
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Bobb Bobbington
Bros Before Holes The Devils' Rejects
199
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Posted - 2016.03.31 19:09:36 -
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I dunno, I think it looks fine, plus it seems like CCP has been trying way to hard to make stuff look super sci-fi lately so it just wouldn't be the same
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ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors Snuffed Out
9759
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Posted - 2016.03.31 19:11:00 -
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Quote:What they did with the Incursus was basically perfect; they took any bad parts of it and fixed it to make it a proper-looking juggernaut that it should be. The lance sticking out was shortened and made more reasonable HERETIC! Buuuuurrrrrrrn hiiiiiimmmmmm!!!!!!!
*torches and pitchforks* *pages Ralph*
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Danika Princip
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4323
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Posted - 2016.03.31 20:18:20 -
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Dror wrote:I'm sure a non-monetized method of getting SKINs would be fine.
Edit: Sweet heaven, customization options that don't drop in game, with a subscription?
Have you tried looking on the market?
@OP, sure, but there are a lot of ships that need fixing up before the merlin. I mean, look at the bantam, or the griffin. |
Rivr Luzade
Kenshin. DARKNESS.
2391
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Posted - 2016.03.31 20:27:00 -
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ShahFluffers wrote:Quote:What they did with the Incursus was basically perfect; they took any bad parts of it and fixed it to make it a proper-looking juggernaut that it should be. The lance sticking out was shortened and made more reasonable HERETIC! Buuuuurrrrrrrn hiiiiiimmmmmm!!!!!!! *torches and pitchforks* *pages Ralph* Fully supported. Plus, the Merlin is still one the better looking ships compared to something like the Bantam, Griffin, Scalpel, Celestis, Slasher and so on.
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ARES-DESIDERATUS
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
3
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Posted - 2016.03.31 21:09:25 -
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ShahFluffers wrote:Quote:What they did with the Incursus was basically perfect; they took any bad parts of it and fixed it to make it a proper-looking juggernaut that it should be. The lance sticking out was shortened and made more reasonable HERETIC! Buuuuurrrrrrrn hiiiiiimmmmmm!!!!!!! *torches and pitchforks* *pages Ralph* Oh come on, that spear was so stupid, what possible reason would they need to have such a long stick jutting out from a hull like that? This isn't a goddamn jousting match, that thing was longer than the ship itself lol, it looks so much better now
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ARES-DESIDERATUS
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
3
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Posted - 2016.03.31 21:19:30 -
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Rovinia wrote:ARES-DESIDERATUS wrote:I realize this is all down to opinion but if you disagree with this then your opinion is just garbage. That's a strange attitude for a DISCUSSION forum, isn't it? I can demonstrate for you systematically why beauty can be decided objectively, and, in great detail, I can describe the exact reasons why a Merlin re-design is warranted and why, if done properly, it would be undeniably superior to the current model. We can discuss it if you want, I was just letting you know ahead of time that if you disagree with the premise, you are wrong.
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elitatwo
Eve Minions The-Company
1146
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Posted - 2016.03.31 22:02:51 -
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save the lance and leave my precious alone!
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Lugh Crow-Slave
1758
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Posted - 2016.03.31 22:26:05 -
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Rovinia wrote:ARES-DESIDERATUS wrote:I realize this is all down to opinion but if you disagree with this then your opinion is just garbage. That's a strange attitude for a DISCUSSION forum, isn't it?
please there would hardly be anyone hear if we took away that attitude
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Corvald Tyrska
Valknetra
100
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Posted - 2016.03.31 23:08:36 -
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Rivr Luzade wrote:ShahFluffers wrote:Quote:What they did with the Incursus was basically perfect; they took any bad parts of it and fixed it to make it a proper-looking juggernaut that it should be. The lance sticking out was shortened and made more reasonable HERETIC! Buuuuurrrrrrrn hiiiiiimmmmmm!!!!!!! *torches and pitchforks* *pages Ralph* Fully supported. Plus, the Merlin is still one the better looking ships compared to something like the Bantam, Griffin, Scalpel, Celestis, Slasher and so on.
Definitely agree on the Slasher, Stiletto, Claw models, also Breacher and Burst look bizarre. I kinda wish they would swap the model for the Minmatar Shuttle with the Slasher as it looks way cooler.
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Lugh Crow-Slave
1759
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Posted - 2016.03.31 23:15:37 -
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Corvald Tyrska wrote:Rivr Luzade wrote:ShahFluffers wrote:Quote:What they did with the Incursus was basically perfect; they took any bad parts of it and fixed it to make it a proper-looking juggernaut that it should be. The lance sticking out was shortened and made more reasonable HERETIC! Buuuuurrrrrrrn hiiiiiimmmmmm!!!!!!! *torches and pitchforks* *pages Ralph* Fully supported. Plus, the Merlin is still one the better looking ships compared to something like the Bantam, Griffin, Scalpel, Celestis, Slasher and so on. Definitely agree on the Slasher, Stiletto, Claw models, also Breacher and Burst look bizarre. I kinda wish they would swap the model for the Minmatar Shuttle with the Slasher as it looks way cooler.
griffin is one of the better looking ships
its one of the few E-war ships that look like an E-war ship
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ARES-DESIDERATUS
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
3
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Posted - 2016.03.31 23:33:12 -
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It's possible for an ewar ship to look like an ewar ship without being an ugly piece of crap, the griffin just happens to ignore this possibility
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Iain Cariaba
2872
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Posted - 2016.04.01 10:18:08 -
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ARES-DESIDERATUS wrote:without being an ugly piece of crap I find this to be true of many, many Caldari ships. I mean, look at the bantam I can't be the only person that thinks this ship looks like some poor guy with Elephantiasis of the scrotum.
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ARES-DESIDERATUS
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
3
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Posted - 2016.04.01 16:11:19 -
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That's just, like, your opinion man... except when you realize that some opinions are more valid than others. We can go into the details, but the Merlin's face mask, bird beak cockpit thing is just bad design, it deserves to be redone. And the Bantam and others should be redone as well, sure.
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Celthric Kanerian
Ascendance Of New Eden Workers Trade Federation
711
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Posted - 2016.04.01 21:32:00 -
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ARES-DESIDERATUS wrote:
I realize this is all down to opinion but if you disagree with this then your opinion is just garbage.
How can you expect any constructive discussion when you're being that arrogant to post something like this?
You're basicly saying: Waahh I want this and that" |
ARES-DESIDERATUS
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
3
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Posted - 2016.04.01 21:51:40 -
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Celthric Kanerian wrote:ARES-DESIDERATUS wrote:
I realize this is all down to opinion but if you disagree with this then your opinion is just garbage.
How can you expect any constructive discussion when you're being that arrogant to post something like this? You're basicly saying: Waahh I want this and that" There's nothing arrogant about what I wrote, and if you need me to explain to you exactly why that is, I can do that. Because I am actually willing to have a constructive discussion about these things; judging from the rest of your post, you are not.
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Celthric Kanerian
Ascendance Of New Eden Workers Trade Federation
711
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Posted - 2016.04.01 22:17:25 -
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ARES-DESIDERATUS wrote:Celthric Kanerian wrote:ARES-DESIDERATUS wrote:
I realize this is all down to opinion but if you disagree with this then your opinion is just garbage.
How can you expect any constructive discussion when you're being that arrogant to post something like this? You're basicly saying: Waahh I want this and that" There's nothing arrogant about what I wrote, and if you need me to explain to you exactly why that is, I can do that. Because I am actually willing to have a constructive discussion about these things; judging from the rest of your post, you are not.
You are litteraly saying that anyone who disagree with you are wrong, how exactly does that encourage constructive behavior? |
ARES-DESIDERATUS
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
3
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Posted - 2016.04.01 22:39:43 -
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You seem unwilling to even try to learn from what I am saying.
For one thing, you're having serious trouble even writing properly. That's not a big deal.
But what you just wrote, "You are litteraly saying that anyone who disagree with you are wrong," is completely wrong; that is just not what I said. Reread my original post and you'll see that I was clearly referring to the idea that I put forward, and in reference to it, I stated that if you disagree with it then your opinion is garbage. So yes, if you disagree with my premise in the OP, you are wrong, but that is a far cry from saying that anyone who disagrees with me is wrong, or that I am simply never wrong. Just as an example, if you happened to prove me wrong on this topic, I would be the first to admit it. I just really don't see that happening, which is why I can confidently say that anyone who disagrees with my premise in the OP is dead wrong.
So I'm not going to answer your question because it's a loaded question; in case you don't know what that means it means that your question has a built-in premise. In this case the premise has just been proven wrong.
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Kenrailae
Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships.
542
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Posted - 2016.04.01 23:30:37 -
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Merlin looks good. How about we talk about the Bantam?
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ARES-DESIDERATUS
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
3
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Posted - 2016.04.01 23:41:01 -
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Kenrailae wrote:Merlin looks good. How about we talk about the Bantam? We can talk about the Bantam in a separate thread if you want
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Iain Cariaba
2876
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Posted - 2016.04.01 23:43:44 -
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ARES-DESIDERATUS wrote:You seem unwilling to even try to learn from what I am saying.
For one thing, you're having serious trouble even writing properly. That's not a big deal.
But what you just wrote, "You are litteraly saying that anyone who disagree with you are wrong," is completely wrong; that is just not what I said. Reread my original post and you'll see that I was clearly referring to the idea that I put forward, and in reference to it, I stated that if you disagree with it then your opinion is garbage. So yes, if you disagree with my premise in the OP, you are wrong, but that is a far cry from saying that anyone who disagrees with me is wrong, or that I am simply never wrong. Just as an example, if you happened to prove me wrong on this topic, I would be the first to admit it. I just really don't see that happening, which is why I can confidently say that anyone who disagrees with my premise in the OP is dead wrong.
So I'm not going to answer your question because it's a loaded question; in case you don't know what that means it means that your question has a built-in premise. In this case the premise has just been proven wrong. Well, I think the merlin looks fine as it is, and if you disagree, then your opinion is garbage.
EvE is hard. It's harder if you're stupid.
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ARES-DESIDERATUS
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
3
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Posted - 2016.04.01 23:57:09 -
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I actually don't disagree with that.
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Murkar Omaristos
The Alabaster Albatross Sev3rance
241
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Posted - 2016.04.02 03:17:53 -
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How about that half-finished Chimera redesign >_>
or, you know, fixing the celestis/Arazu/Lachesis so that it doesn't look like a flying thalidomide-fueled space tumor would be nice. |
ARES-DESIDERATUS
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
3
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Posted - 2016.04.02 04:41:11 -
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Murkar Omaristos wrote:How about that half-finished Chimera redesign >_>
or, you know, fixing the celestis/Arazu/Lachesis so that it doesn't look like a flying thalidomide-fueled space tumor would be nice. These are interesting ideas as well but you guys keep changing the subject, the celestis hull has nothing to do with the merlin hull, and whether one should be remodeled does not mean the other one should be, it's a different conversation. For the record I agree the Celestis is terrible and should be redesigned, but I'm talking about the Merlin, and there are specific reasons why the Merlin is equally as deserving of a redesign as other ships which have gotten ones recently.
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Atomeon
The Scope Gallente Federation
68
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Posted - 2016.04.02 09:08:38 -
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All that for a ... frigate. Just a question: can you even can fly that or do you ever using it? |
ARES-DESIDERATUS
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
3
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Posted - 2016.04.02 15:17:50 -
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Atomeon wrote:All that for a ... frigate. Just a question: can you even can fly that or do you ever using it? Yes, Atomeon, all that for a frigate. Just like the Incursus, Condor and Crucifier, which also all happen to be frigates, and also all happened to get remodeled hull designs by CCP.
And, just to answer your question, even though it's completely irrelevant, I actually can and do fly the Merlin.
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Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
11580
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Posted - 2016.04.03 12:58:22 -
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ARES-DESIDERATUS wrote:Murkar Omaristos wrote:How about that half-finished Chimera redesign >_>
or, you know, fixing the celestis/Arazu/Lachesis so that it doesn't look like a flying thalidomide-fueled space tumor would be nice. These are interesting ideas as well but you guys keep changing the subject, the celestis hull has nothing to do with the merlin hull, and whether one should be remodeled does not mean the other one should be, it's a different conversation. For the record I agree the Celestis is terrible and should be redesigned, but I'm talking about the Merlin, and there are specific reasons why the Merlin is equally as deserving of a redesign as other ships which have gotten ones recently.
Frankly, given your poor attitude in the OP, I would've supported this but now I cannot do so conscionably.
I now proclaim that this thread is now about redesigning the Thorax so that all ambiguity and innuendo is removed from it's design - it should now look like a 296 metre-long human phallus, in all its glory. No more hints of futuristic spaceship design!
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ARES-DESIDERATUS
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
4
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Posted - 2016.04.03 18:01:22 -
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So you think that my attitude is poor, and you think that this is reason enough to warrant not supporting an idea which you actually agree with?
Just how logically confused do you have to be in order to perceive the above line of reasoning as logically sound? (Rhetorical question).
As for your Thorax comments, I'm curious to know more about this ambiguity you speak of. I'm really drawing a blank here. As far as I can tell, the Thorax was and is designed as a flying space dildo, and there is just no ambiguity about it. There's just no way the Thorax wasn't specifically designed to be a flying space dildo. It even curves down slightly as if it is in the process of going flaccid (or becoming erect), and at the rear of the shaft is the bulky engine block. There can be no other explanation. It's a space dildo.
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