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Darkblad
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Posted - 2016.04.08 17:29:27 -
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Well, a hint for that feature was available a while ago on the very. useful. and. always. true. updates site.
NPE-ISD-Übersetzt!
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NightmareX
Coreli Corporation Mercenary Coalition
696
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Posted - 2016.04.08 17:29:46 -
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Xenuria wrote:Do NPCs in missions count towards this? I don't think so. I do believe you actually have to make some effort to find a specific rat / npc to be able to gain the skillpoint award. And that's perfectly fine in my opinion if it will be that way.
Here is a list of my current EVE / PVP videos:
1: Asteroid Madness
2: Clash of the Empires
3: Suddenly Spaceships fighting in Tama
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Hra Neuvosto
FinFleet Northern Coalition.
374
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Posted - 2016.04.08 17:30:06 -
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I like free SP as much as the next guy but dailys don't fit EVE at all in my opinion. |
Poopicus Butts
Naliao Inc. Test Alliance Please Ignore
15
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Posted - 2016.04.08 17:31:33 -
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Are you nerds seriously complaining over free SP |
Gospadin
Bastard Children of Poinen Grumpy Space Bastards
254
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Posted - 2016.04.08 17:31:34 -
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Strange Shadow wrote:Idea is solid, especially when other (more or less complex) conditions will be added, with different timers and rewards. But for this one simple condition, reward seems to be too high, especially if you plan add more of such conditions.
Average SP gain per hour on average char is about 2000 SP per hour at current rates. For simple "kill any NPC daily" challenge more appropriate reward would be like 500-1000 SP. For 10.000 SP it should be more like "complete any lvl5 mission in lowsec" or something like "kill this special capital NPC". Something that requires actual risk and effort, otherwise the reward wont looks earned and becomes farm instead.
You get 50k for sitting on your butt in every 24 hour period with balanced attributes and a cheap pod.
I believe a lot of this is to keep newbies from recognizing, as soon as they put their first level 5 skill in the queue, that they can just log out for a few days and wait til it's done. Logging out of EVE becomes habit forming. Especially because with their low skills and capitalization, the reward of venture mining or level 2 security missions isn't worth the effort.
With a modest boost to skill accrual, it keeps a few more pilots visible in the universe, which makes it more alive for everyone.
Edit: And that "aliveness" is what keeps players around, IMO. |
Makoto Priano
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd. Arataka Research Consortium
8256
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Posted - 2016.04.08 17:31:39 -
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Darkblad; sure, but original concept wasn't SP. ;)
That said, Rise: my solution.
Don't give SP. Instead, give Society of Conscious Thought LP. They don't have any agents, so no other source of it.
You then use the SoCT LP store for rewards, which you can rotate or adjust easily.
This gives a storyline basis for SP ('micro-injectors,' thanks Gorion), for why this new push is underway (SoCT loves the egg), and you can also provide other rewards.
Further, if it's a marketable good in an LP store, you can get interdiction, market trading, etc.
If you're worried about the only source of these being Geminate, you could post a few more SoCT stations in various places, like, say, CONCORD sovereignty?
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries: exploring the edge of the known, advancing the state of the art. Would you like to know more?
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Axhind
Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation
102
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Posted - 2016.04.08 17:31:59 -
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Wow. New low for CCP. How about you make it free to play before messing it all up?
EVE is already demanding game, now you propose to make it forced logging in of every char every day to not lose out on the bonus. Yea, forcing (or at least strongly pushing) people to play your game is for sure never going to backfire.
Haven't yea learned anything from all those failed MMOs? |
Scatim Helicon
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3379
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Posted - 2016.04.08 17:32:20 -
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You could try making a game that your playerbase wants to log in for, rather than having to bribe them with SP.
Hell, here's a completely crazy idea, you could make NPCs challenging and interesting to fight rather than something to be farmed en masse in your sleep.
(you won't do either of these things)
Post on the Eve-o forums with a Goonswarm Federation character that drinking bleach is bad for you, and 20 forum warriors will hospitalise themselves trying to prove you wrong.
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Tefnut' Ra
Nomen-illis-Legio Legion of xXDEATHXx
0
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Posted - 2016.04.08 17:32:37 -
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I like the idea! Because too many people never undock from jita! |
Captain Semper
OEG Freedom Among the Stars
79
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Posted - 2016.04.08 17:32:45 -
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Gospadin wrote:FT Diomedes wrote:For nine years, I have enjoyed Eve as a game I didn't have to grind in order to improve my characters. This changes that completely. Please don't do this, especially not per character. You don't have to do anything to improve your characters. They're not eliminating normal skillpoint accrual. For most of us in +5 pods with optimal attributes, it's about 15% difference. For rookies just starting out, it's 30% or more. Yes but that was the PLAN
"Our game will be different then other MMO. Grind willnot improve you character. The only way that you can get SP is time." And now RISE just trash it...
I know that it have very small affection on the gameplay. But its and IDEA! And what next realy? Kill nyx NPC get 100k SP? |
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X4m
AirGuard LowSechnaya Sholupen
114
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Posted - 2016.04.08 17:33:46 -
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Daily Opportunites = good SP as reward = bad |
captain foivos
State War Academy Caldari State
288
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Posted - 2016.04.08 17:34:26 -
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gotta boost those daily log-in numbers to fool investors |
Tokyo Drifter
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
4
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Posted - 2016.04.08 17:34:35 -
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Poopicus Butts wrote:Are you nerds seriously complaining over free SP
TEST babby is happy about free SP why am I not surprised I am sure you vote Bernie because he will pay for your PLEX too
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Gospadin
Bastard Children of Poinen Grumpy Space Bastards
254
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Posted - 2016.04.08 17:36:36 -
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Captain Semper wrote:Gospadin wrote:FT Diomedes wrote:For nine years, I have enjoyed Eve as a game I didn't have to grind in order to improve my characters. This changes that completely. Please don't do this, especially not per character. You don't have to do anything to improve your characters. They're not eliminating normal skillpoint accrual. For most of us in +5 pods with optimal attributes, it's about 15% difference. For rookies just starting out, it's 30% or more. Yes but that was the PLAN"Our game will be different then other MMO. Grind willnot improve you character. The only way that you can get SP is time." And now RISE just trash it... I know that it have very small affection on the gameplay. But its and IDEA! And what next realy? Kill nyx NPC get 100k SP?
How is "login 15 times to kill NPCs" materially different than "kill one DED boss, sell loot, buy injector" ?
Those are both grinding for SP. |
Delilah Albertis
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2016.04.08 17:36:50 -
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Tokyo Drifter wrote:Now we get f***** daily quests. I wish I could spam this emoji since this is the kind used by the crowd you seem to cater to these days. Casual redditors are a plague.
Nothing wrong with gettin some casual action to fit my casual lifestyle! Bring on the goods!
Advenat Bedala wrote:No. Just No.
Please, enlighten us more on your informed opinion. I've gained so much insight from your bandwagoned internet jargon that you're bound to sway a few others if you added a few more gems such as "This." and "Right in the feels."
You'd have the developers eating out of your hands!
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Rain6639
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3846
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Posted - 2016.04.08 17:37:42 -
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Poopicus Butts wrote:Are you nerds seriously complaining over free SP I'm with this guy. |
Gian Bal
Noble Sentiments Second Empire.
7
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Posted - 2016.04.08 17:38:07 -
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I got an awesome idea! Liquidate all assets owned by CCP Games and beg Blizzard to have our own cluster in world of warcraft. Either way thats the direction eve is headed.
Litterally God
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Masao Kurata
Many Much Mechanics
443
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Posted - 2016.04.08 17:40:01 -
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Absolutely not. Logging in every character every day and popping a rat (incidentally something I do more like every month currently, pve is not part of my regular gameplay and I do not want it to be) is every bit as much of a grind as going through a dungeon killing everything over and over until a bar fills up, and in fact worse became it imposes on your real life schedule.
Also, where's my 100k SP per day for ganking someone? |
Combat Wombatz
Bearded BattleBears I N F A M O U S
26
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Posted - 2016.04.08 17:40:33 -
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Gian Bal wrote:I got an awesome idea! Liquidate all assets owned by CCP Games and beg Blizzard to have our own cluster in world of warcraft. Either way thats the direction eve is headed.
holy lol |
Skia Aumer
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
208
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Posted - 2016.04.08 17:42:10 -
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CCP Rise wrote:Feedback appreciate as always Burn in hell. |
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Michael Oskold
Adversity. Psychotic Tendencies.
19
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Posted - 2016.04.08 17:45:09 -
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the hysteria in this thread is hilarious. eve already has grind to skill with injectors. all ive seen from it is hilarious stories and people that are happy about having more control over what they need in a character.
if there are daily activities that push you to get out (without being broken B) ) im all for it. |
Boom Boom Longtime
EVE Corporation 6908469858 Heroes and Villains.
1307
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Posted - 2016.04.08 17:46:29 -
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Yet another low ball move by CCP against the core founding principles of the game in clear pursuit of shameless corporate greed.
What a surprise!
Concord Approved Trader
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Skia Aumer
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
213
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Posted - 2016.04.08 17:46:46 -
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First, you remove 24 hour limit from skill queue. Then you suggest skill points for merely logging in. Great logic! |
Huan Matus
Elite pilots Project.Mayhem.
2
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Posted - 2016.04.08 17:47:34 -
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Please don't make EVE Online WoWlike. There's no need in any achievements system. Let people choose their goals themselves. |
Ranafal
Rezeda Supplements Rezeda Regnum
46
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Posted - 2016.04.08 17:48:03 -
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The original idea is horrible because of injecting SP from nowhere.
I propose another one:
- if player A kills ship of player B, and player A has less SP than player B, then -- player A gets 100 SP -- player B loses 120 SP
(numbers are just for example, can be adjusted) |
Ddolik
Black Sheep Down Tactical Narcotics Team
47
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Posted - 2016.04.08 17:48:28 -
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please dont do this... no no no no |
Seraph Essael
eXceed Inc.
1173
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Posted - 2016.04.08 17:48:45 -
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Selling out...
Quoted from Doc Fury: "Concerned citizens: Doc seldom plays EVE on the weekends during spring and summer, so you will always be on your own for a couple days a week. Doc spends that time collecting kittens for the on-going sacrifices, engaging in reckless outdoor activities, and speaking in the 3rd person."
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Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
2357
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Posted - 2016.04.08 17:48:50 -
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Captain Semper wrote:Dont like it. Becuase this SP will comes from NOWHERE
For now the only way to increase SP in the EVE is training. And for this... Well... Farm NPC get SP... Very bad and not "Spirit of EvE". I realy dont want see this in the game. This. There was a strong emphasize in the skill injector discussion, that skillpoints are not created out of thin air but have to be created by training.
Now you just throw that very important reasoning out of the window, and start giving out new SP for activity. I can only assume this is the next step in order to gradually transform EvE into F2P.
I'm my own NPC alt.
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Curly Quote
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
1
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Posted - 2016.04.08 17:50:43 -
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This is awesome! Loving the idea behind this, CCP! |
Kin-Dza-Dza Ecilopp
W-Space Bums
23
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Posted - 2016.04.08 17:52:40 -
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The version of the feature we are planning to deploy first will be a simple 20,000 skill point reward that a character will receive the first time they kill an PLAYER ship every 22 hours. |
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