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Haas Tabris
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Posted - 2007.02.16 05:20:00 -
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True story. WE had about 450 in local, most of us on the gate or ready to be on the gate. THEY had about 400-450 on the other side of the gate. We all expected lag, even a node crash (or two), but it's been about an hour now and we still haven't had a fight. EVE keeps crashing. I'm frapps-ing some of the discussion, thinking of making a movie with my "entering the game as Haas Tabris" screen as the only visual and just letting folks listen to the ts banter.
CCP, I'm really not here to *****, I just think you may have reached the limit of 0.0 warfare with the game as it is.
I'd suggest rethinking the stargates. I understand this is an integral part of the game, BUT, when 400+ players try to jump through all at once it just plain doesn't work.
Perhaps give all ships jump-drives that work without cynos. Your ship then has a light-year range, and a light-year per minute speed, and you just go to the map and jump. You wind up somewhere in the system, and then you need to group up with your fleet by warping to gang members.
The defenders will need to have their probers out and working and the defending fleet commanders will have to figure out where the hostile fleet(s) are forming up and coordinate a defense. The defenders would also need some sort of sensor to alert them that hostile ships are inbound, but I sure you can imagine something.
I think it could be pretty cool. Plus, it might make it easier for you to shift the server loads around. If it takes 3 minutes to jump to a nearby system (as opposed to 5 jumps that also take about 3 minutes), your servers then have a few minutes to ready themselves for the new load. I know I'm anthropomorphizing a bit, but I think you get the idea.
Anyways, just a few thoughts as I sit here waiting to load back in...
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DubanFP
Caldari Four Rings Myriad Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.16 05:23:00 -
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Wow, that's a lot. I thought the 450 in local during battle for I-N was a lot. Still this probebly belongs in CAOD forums. __________________________
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Dred'Pirate Jesus
Amarr Imperial Warehousing Industries
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Posted - 2007.02.16 05:28:00 -
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Wait for the new client and other optimizations to fleet battle.. Obviously the playerbase has outrun CCP's ability to keep up with them..
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Plutoinum
German Cyberdome Corp Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.02.16 05:33:00 -
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Edited by: Plutoinum on 16/02/2007 05:33:02 400 player jump into 450 .... what did you expect ?
From my experience, the node crashes already happen with like 450 people in local, when it comes to a fight. 850 fighting ? No way. _______ I came, I read, I lol'ed. |
cyphus veers
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Posted - 2007.02.16 05:37:00 -
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enemy had more than 450 they had about 200-300 plus 500 then the reinforcements lol
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crice
Caldari CRICE Corporation Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.02.16 05:39:00 -
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Originally by: cyphus veers enemy had more than 450 they had about 200-300 plus 500 then the reinforcements lol
and again.. false. You have no honor.
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Zoey Lionheart
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Posted - 2007.02.16 05:40:00 -
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Can we say there were 1000 more than us for kicks and giggles?
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Haas Tabris
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Posted - 2007.02.16 05:40:00 -
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guys, please please please don't make this a stupid ****ing contest.
i was really hoping for ideas on how CCP could fix this. have any?
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Magnum III
Journey On Squad
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Posted - 2007.02.16 05:41:00 -
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Edited by: Magnum III on 16/02/2007 05:38:20
Originally by: Haas Tabris guys, please please please don't make this a stupid ****ing contest.
i was really hoping for ideas on how CCP could fix this. have any?
Don't you know CCP is going to make it were as you won't even WANT to be in a gang of more than 30 ships?
Then when you guys want to war you will be doing it in many systems at once not just on the other side of a gate.
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Naitoa Skyrichi
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Posted - 2007.02.16 05:43:00 -
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You obvious haven't been to a good fleet battle have you?
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Ket Halpak
ANZAC ALLIANCE Southern Cross Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.16 05:44:00 -
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Whoa! Damn! Uninteligable exclamations of disbelief!
Thats a lot of pilots!
I belive you have just created a black hole in the eve server! Too many ships in one place has warped cyberspace into a black hole where time slows down before breaking apart altogether!
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Dred'Pirate Jesus
Amarr Imperial Warehousing Industries
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Posted - 2007.02.16 05:44:00 -
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Edited by: Dred''Pirate Jesus on 16/02/2007 05:42:05
Originally by: Haas Tabris guys, please please please don't make this a stupid ****ing contest.
i was really hoping for ideas on how CCP could fix this. have any?
Yeah.. updated code and optimizations.. I'm fairly sure that CCP had no idea that fleet/pos warfare would escalate to the huge sniping spamfests we have now.. Eves popularity FTL in this case it seems.. Let the marketing division take an unschedualed break..
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Enarc Dobachi
Gallente Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.16 05:53:00 -
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Originally by: crice
Originally by: cyphus veers enemy had more than 450 they had about 200-300 plus 500 then the reinforcements lol
and again.. false. You have no honor.
Funny coming from an LV. The irony meter overloaded 5 months ago or it'd still beep.
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umop 3pisdn
Minmatar Republic Military School
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Posted - 2007.02.16 05:56:00 -
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Theres a lot of jokes about jita being run on a pumped up super server... is this true?
And with the size of the war growing daily.... shouldnt it move to follow the action?
The carebears wont be able to log on in jita... true... but who gives a ****? are they writing the next few months (at least) of eves history? pff no.
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Valar
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Posted - 2007.02.16 06:02:00 -
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I've been trying to get JV1V-O unstuck but no matter what I do it gets too loaded in minutes or seconds after its remapped. It's now running on a server identical to Jita after I forced it to load on it when I killed the node it was on before. Manually killing the node atm is pointless as it will just get stuck again(I've tried 6 times). Sorry I can't help more. ------ Valar Database admin - Server operations team CCP Games How to write a good bugreport |
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J'ghathii
Caldari Order of The Black Rose
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Posted - 2007.02.16 06:04:00 -
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The carebears might not be writing the next chapter of eve history, but if it wasn't for them, the servers would have shut down a while ago due to lack of funds for upkeep.
Anyhow, breaking the 600-odd limit that seems to be in place for systems would be neat.
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Haas Tabris
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Posted - 2007.02.16 06:05:00 -
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Hey, thanks for trying Valar. We appreciate it.
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Garia666
Amarr adeptus gattacus Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.02.16 06:05:00 -
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i would like to defend my space.. ->My Vids<- CCP= More skilz more moneh! |
Aceonfire
Caldari JuBa Corp Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.02.16 06:05:00 -
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Originally by: Valar I've been trying to get JV1V-O unstuck but no matter what I do it gets too loaded in minutes or seconds after its remapped. It's now running on a server identical to Jita after I forced it to load on it when I killed the node it was on before. Manually killing the node atm is pointless as it will just get stuck again(I've tried 6 times). Sorry I can't help more.
Can we have Jita's node also?
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Southern Paladin
North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.02.16 06:06:00 -
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so like....what do expect us to do? let LV get away with something we came to kill
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Jake Noble
Amarr Federation of Freedom Fighters
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Posted - 2007.02.16 06:06:00 -
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Originally by: Valar I've been trying to get JV1V-O unstuck but no matter what I do it gets too loaded in minutes or seconds after its remapped. It's now running on a server identical to Jita after I forced it to load on it when I killed the node it was on before. Manually killing the node atm is pointless as it will just get stuck again(I've tried 6 times). Sorry I can't help more.
So what are we supposed to do? Just allow the POS to be popped or what? If anything close the WHOLE node down and put the hostiles back in the other system and then fix it for christ sake.
For you to say " sorry i cant help anymore " is an insult... our friends are to loose there pos because you guys cant handle / fix the load?
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Mitch Taylor
Caldari Dark-Rising Fallen Souls
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Posted - 2007.02.16 06:07:00 -
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Originally by: Valar I've been trying to get JV1V-O unstuck but no matter what I do it gets too loaded in minutes or seconds after its remapped. It's now running on a server identical to Jita after I forced it to load on it when I killed the node it was on before. Manually killing the node atm is pointless as it will just get stuck again(I've tried 6 times). Sorry I can't help more.
turn off empire?
:P
Dark-Rising
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Adunh Slavy
Ammatar Trade Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.02.16 06:10:00 -
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/signed
Been suggesting similar for about a year now.
-AS |
Haas Tabris
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Posted - 2007.02.16 06:11:00 -
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Originally by: Mitch Taylor
turn off empire?
:P
hehe, i like it.
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Valar
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Posted - 2007.02.16 06:11:00 -
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Originally by: Jake Noble
So what are we supposed to do? Just allow the POS to be popped or what? If anything close the WHOLE node down and put the hostiles back in the other system and then fix it for christ sake.
For you to say " sorry i cant help anymore " is an insult... our friends are to loose there pos because you guys cant handle / fix the load?
What can I do? If I close the node like you call it, the solarsystem will load on another node and there is no way to "fix it" when the load thats being put on the solarsystem exceeds the capacity of our most powerful servers. If I *could* do anything for you now I would, belive me, but there are limits and no major breakthroughs are going to happen at 6am when I'm sitting on the edge of my bed with my laptop trying to keep TQ in good service. ------ Valar Database admin - Server operations team CCP Games How to write a good bugreport |
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Brutal Psycho
Amarr Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2007.02.16 06:12:00 -
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There is no lag in EvE.....
There is no Eve..... 2007 The Year of Rabble Rabble |
IamBen
Caldari M. Corp Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.02.16 06:13:00 -
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appreciate the help Valar.
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aimez
Shinra Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.02.16 06:13:00 -
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btw gm's/devs, dont take that joke as a flame or whatever :)
it is just annoyed warriors who want to fight but look at back screens instead
i know it must suck for you to to wake up at 4:00 to fix a server
your effort is apriciated and to bad it didn't help
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AlienBreed
Minmatar LFC Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.02.16 06:13:00 -
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Originally by: Jake Noble
Originally by: Valar I've been trying to get JV1V-O unstuck but no matter what I do it gets too loaded in minutes or seconds after its remapped. It's now running on a server identical to Jita after I forced it to load on it when I killed the node it was on before. Manually killing the node atm is pointless as it will just get stuck again(I've tried 6 times). Sorry I can't help more.
So what are we supposed to do? Just allow the POS to be popped or what? If anything close the WHOLE node down and put the hostiles back in the other system and then fix it for christ sake.
For you to say " sorry i cant help anymore " is an insult... our friends are to loose there pos because you guys cant handle / fix the load?
dont have a go at valar, this needed to happen CCP now has to fix this situation and while its upsetting right this second and your angry about it i really dont see any way that the POS can fall now that a gm/dev has stated that the hardware is at fault will CCP allow the shape of the 0.0 map to be governed by node deaths and lag?
this is a turning point in the evolution of the game
time for a fix CCP
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Adoro
Shinra Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.02.16 06:13:00 -
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Originally by: Valar
Originally by: Jake Noble
So what are we supposed to do? Just allow the POS to be popped or what? If anything close the WHOLE node down and put the hostiles back in the other system and then fix it for christ sake.
For you to say " sorry i cant help anymore " is an insult... our friends are to loose there pos because you guys cant handle / fix the load?
What can I do? If I close the node like you call it, the solarsystem will load on another node and there is no way to "fix it" when the load thats being put on the solarsystem exceeds the capacity of our most powerful servers. If I *could* do anything for you now I would, belive me, but there are limits and no major breakthroughs are going to happen at 6am when I'm sitting on the edge of my bed with my laptop trying to keep TQ in good service.
Tnx for trying valar...
Do we get fined for breaking eve? --------
Originally by: ChalSto underestimate us one second and uŠll mine veldspar in empire for the rest of ur eve-life
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