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Special Eddy
Special Edd Bus
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Posted - 2007.02.16 14:52:00 -
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Well, im sure we can all say that were glad about amarr finally getting a much needed boost.
Im pleased they have taken note of the great Kanid MKII threads, time to give amarr some real flavor me thinks :)
What i hope they do is....
1) Give the Apoc a definable role, tbh the abbadon + geddon outclass it in tank & damage, n with the low amount of mid slots it dont leave much else for it to do.
2) Finally sorting out beam lasers, tbh how many ppl use beams on anything other than BS's that often, not many i bet (even more so on friggies), hell i might even get to fly my Med beam retribution someday...
3) Khanid ships - Well, we all know the maladiction/vengeance/(not the curse)/Sacralidge/Damnation all need looking at, as we all know mixing lasers + missiles doesnt work all too well.
Maladiction - Would be nice to be the amarr crow (yeah crappy em damamge, but would still be nice.
Vengeance - Needs some more work, enuff mids to shield tank it perhaps, n drop the lasers as the dps is laughable.
Curse - This baby is great as it is, if they did inlclude missiles (drop the tractking distrupor bonus for missiles ROF one), i feel it would be overpower with this following setup roughly.
Highs - 3 Heavy launchers II's, 2 Med Nos Mids - 1 MWD 1 28km Scramb, 3 Dampener II's, 1 Painter Lows - MAR II, 2 EAM II , 1 BC II
Drones X5 med X5 Light
Sac - I really would love this baby to be a missle spewing armour tanker, the ship is worse than the zealot in every way, (but it can tank better!!! i hear.... wrong, the zealot has more lows to make up for the no resist bonus, better cap, faster , better damage + can fit X3 nos on it if ya wanted with a duel rep tank (but x3 nos on zealot is ghey)
Damnation - Maybe fix the various cap problems while they are at it, also its range is a joke, why use one over a eos other than skill training reasons :/
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Dristra
Amarr Shadows of the Dead Aftermath Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.16 15:25:00 -
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I would go for drone apoc myself, will stop all complains about set damage types: "yes, lasers only deal em\term, but you have the drone apoc, stfu!"
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Mike5p0
Amarr The Clearwater Society Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.02.16 15:47:00 -
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Originally by: Special Eddy
Curse - This baby is great as it is, if they did inlclude missiles (drop the tractking distrupor bonus for missiles ROF one), i feel it would be overpower with this following setup roughly.
Highs - 3 Heavy launchers II's, 2 Med Nos Mids - 1 MWD 1 28km Scramb, 3 Dampener II's, 1 Painter Lows - MAR II, 2 EAM II , 1 BC II
Drones X5 med X5 Light
Lol, the tracking disruptor bonus is what makes/saves this ship... Its paper thin and primary (unless your bud is in a Scorp)
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Goumindong
Amarr Merch Industrial We Are Nice Guys
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Posted - 2007.02.16 15:47:00 -
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Edited by: Goumindong on 16/02/2007 15:44:20 Beams are the reason to fly Amarr battlecruisers, they are pretty awesome.
Well, relativly. They arent so great in the grand scheme of things. ---------------------------------------- Thou Shalt "Pew Pew" |

Admiral Bosch
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Posted - 2007.02.16 15:47:00 -
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bring back the good old gankagged on the apoc... give it
10% bonus to laser damage and 20% bonus to ROF of BEAM lasers. Make the name "apocalypse" mean something other than... ohh look a massive battery in space lets noss it!
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Goumindong
Amarr Merch Industrial We Are Nice Guys
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Posted - 2007.02.16 15:49:00 -
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Originally by: Admiral Bosch bring back the good old gankagged on the apoc... give it
10% bonus to laser damage and 20% bonus to ROF of BEAM lasers. Make the name "apocalypse" mean something other than... ohh look a massive battery in space lets noss it!
Yes please, lets crash the game every time an apoc undocks. It will be awesome.
Seriously, is this a joke? ---------------------------------------- Thou Shalt "Pew Pew" |

DarkElf
Caldari Veto. Academy
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Posted - 2007.02.16 15:49:00 -
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Originally by: Admiral Bosch bring back the good old gankagged on the apoc... give it
10% bonus to laser damage and 20% bonus to ROF of BEAM lasers. Make the name "apocalypse" mean something other than... ohh look a massive battery in space lets noss it!
yeah we'll giveit the name 'overpowered'. i'm fully trained for it if it was good tho so i say bring it on.
DE
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dalman
Finite Horizon
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Posted - 2007.02.16 15:54:00 -
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Originally by: Goumindong
Originally by: Admiral Bosch bring back the good old gankagged on the apoc... give it
10% bonus to laser damage and 20% bonus to ROF of BEAM lasers. Make the name "apocalypse" mean something other than... ohh look a massive battery in space lets noss it!
Yes please, lets crash the game every time an apoc undocks. It will be awesome.
Seriously, is this a joke?
Quite obviously it must be... as if he/she means 20% ROF per level, that means the ROF becomes... zero. As in everything you shoot dies instantly if your cap-level is high enough 
Am I forced to have any regret? I've become the lie, beautiful and free In my righteous own mind I adore and preach the insanity you gave to me |

Goumindong
Amarr Merch Industrial We Are Nice Guys
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Posted - 2007.02.16 15:57:00 -
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Originally by: dalman
Originally by: Goumindong
Originally by: Admiral Bosch bring back the good old gankagged on the apoc... give it
10% bonus to laser damage and 20% bonus to ROF of BEAM lasers. Make the name "apocalypse" mean something other than... ohh look a massive battery in space lets noss it!
Yes please, lets crash the game every time an apoc undocks. It will be awesome.
Seriously, is this a joke?
Quite obviously it must be... as if he/she means 20% ROF per level, that means the ROF becomes... zero. As in everything you shoot dies instantly if your cap-level is high enough 
Nope, game will crash as it hits a divide by zero error every time you try and fire your guns. Or maybe just when you undock or fit lasers. ---------------------------------------- Thou Shalt "Pew Pew" |

Dristra
Amarr Shadows of the Dead Aftermath Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.16 16:53:00 -
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Lets keep on topic now please
It's great being Amarr isn't it. |
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Almarez
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Posted - 2007.02.16 21:09:00 -
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Originally by: Special Eddy
Curse - This baby is great as it is, if they did inlclude missiles (drop the tractking distrupor bonus for missiles ROF one), i feel it would be overpower with this following setup roughly. :/
I don't like them dropping the disrupter bonsu because that comes from the cruiser side of things, so unless they changed the Arbitrator I wouldn't want the Amarr getting any special treatment.
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Almarez
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Posted - 2007.02.16 21:10:00 -
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Originally by: Admiral Bosch bring back the good old gankagged on the apoc... give it
10% bonus to laser damage and 20% bonus to ROF of BEAM lasers. Make the name "apocalypse" mean something other than... ohh look a massive battery in space lets noss it!
LOL...great quote.
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Danjira Ryuujin
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Posted - 2007.02.17 01:04:00 -
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Originally by: Dristra Lets keep on topic now please
We aren't? I thought the topics was Amarrtards on parade.
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ZZandra
Amarr TARDZ Gods of Night and Day
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Posted - 2007.02.17 01:13:00 -
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Nothing wrong with being an AmarrTard. We need help. |

FawKa
Gallente Old Farts
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Posted - 2007.02.17 02:01:00 -
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So you amarr *****s just want more and more and even MOOOORE out of the Devs now?
Man I would have boosted amarr (even if they dont need it) to get all this whining away from the forums!
You want all ships perfect now right? No ships are perfect for what the particular guy wants!
Hey, one guy wants the 5% dmg to hybrids removed from the domi , but the next guy doesnt because he has a use for that bonus. Now that the Devs by a huge mistake gave in to the ******* whine they want to buff amarr I think you should be glad for it.
point is - We ALL got out favorit ship we would like to fit for pure T2 - we just cant - and we deal with it. Or at least 3 races does?
/sorry for used words but there is fifteen other issues in this game that needs fixing before a race that has been like this since EVE was made. Lets all join the whine brigade and the devs will make everything to our favour..
flame away

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Kalidann
Caldari NCN Corp
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Posted - 2007.02.17 02:02:00 -
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yeah, but think about the massive energy blast resulting from the infinipocalypse laser discharge... put a bunch of cap batteries on it for maximal effect...
I wonder what all you could toast with that ship
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Dammar
Amarr Ephorate
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Posted - 2007.02.17 02:11:00 -
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Originally by: FawKa So you amarr *****s just want more and more and even MOOOORE out of the Devs now?
Man I would have boosted amarr (even if they dont need it) to get all this whining away from the forums!
You want all ships perfect now right? No ships are perfect for what the particular guy wants!
Hey, one guy wants the 5% dmg to hybrids removed from the domi , but the next guy doesnt because he has a use for that bonus. Now that the Devs by a huge mistake gave in to the ******* whine they want to buff amarr I think you should be glad for it.
point is - We ALL got out favorit ship we would like to fit for pure T2 - we just cant - and we deal with it. Or at least 3 races does?
/sorry for used words but there is fifteen other issues in this game that needs fixing before a race that has been like this since EVE was made. Lets all join the whine brigade and the devs will make everything to our favour..
flame away
You know, your corp seems to just be full of loudmouth idiots such as yourself. Never disband please.
Consider yourself flamed gheylentte scum. 
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FawKa
Gallente Old Farts
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Posted - 2007.02.17 02:17:00 -
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Awsome reply Dammar, really 
Anyways, - yeah, after HP buff the cap of turrets is quite a topic to think about. I agree that reduction in turret cap should be 7.5% now instead of 5%.
Lets not forget that amarr tanks - not ganks. Lets not forget that a very very very lot amarr players are fine with their ships. I still think most ppl in these amarr whine threads just follow everyone else as they can get more dmg - again to their own favour.

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Ruah Piskonit
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2007.02.17 02:57:00 -
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Originally by: Mike5p0
Originally by: Special Eddy
Curse - This baby is great as it is, if they did inlclude missiles (drop the tractking distrupor bonus for missiles ROF one), i feel it would be overpower with this following setup roughly.
Highs - 3 Heavy launchers II's, 2 Med Nos Mids - 1 MWD 1 28km Scramb, 3 Dampener II's, 1 Painter Lows - MAR II, 2 EAM II , 1 BC II
Drones X5 med X5 Light
Lol, the tracking disruptor bonus is what makes/saves this ship... Its paper thin and primary (unless your bud is in a Scorp)
I was goingg to ccomment that the OP must not fly the curse. . .because its those tracking disruptors that make my tank. . . ----
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Gamesguy
Amarr E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.02.17 03:09:00 -
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Originally by: FawKa [ and let me point to this, linky winky
Please read my post in that thread. Its the one where I laugh at the OP's maller "setup".
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Trind2222
Amarr Dark-Rising Fallen Souls
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Posted - 2007.02.17 03:36:00 -
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I think i grate that the devevs are loking in to amarr but rember it shud not be to powererfull change so what can we expect to change the cap issue the powergid and cpu issue on the ships, t1 frigs and low dps vs other races guns the tanking issue on all ships. There are alot to be lock in to amarr need only to be ballaced vs all sip types. Manny has specilaced in in ammar as main im not one of them im now curently galente atm i fly few amarr ships i fly whit difrent setups i like to fight in pvp batles so i hope once and for all that the amarr issues will be locked at.
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Jaeuhl
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Posted - 2007.02.17 08:09:00 -
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The Apoc works great as a looter/salvager. 4 Tractors/4 Salvagers, a few expanders in the lows and you can loot/salvage virtually every lvl 4 mission in the game...unless you start getting multiple 800 cap battery drops.
Otherwise I use it as a mobile command station, the cap bonus is nifty.
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