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Siri Blue
Gallente Duvolle Laboratories Blue Division
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Posted - 2007.02.16 16:05:00 -
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Greetings! Prior to the Dragon Code the mission destribution was as follows:
Administration: 50% Kill, 50% Courier Advisory: 34% Kill, 66% Courier Archives: 5% Kill, 90% Courier, 5% Trade Astrosurveying: 40% Kill, 30% Courier, 25% Mining, 5% Trade Command: 97% Kill, 3% Courier Distribution: 5% Kill, 95% Courier Intelligence: 85% Kill, 15% Courier Internal Security: 95% Kill, 5% Courier Legal: 50% Kill, 50% Courier Manufacturing: 5% Kill, 95% Courier Marketing: 5% Kill, 95% Courier Mining: 5% Kill, 85% Courier, 10% Mining (II) Personnel: ? 80% Kill, 20% Courier Production: 15% Trade(Mine), 85% Courier (lvl 4) Public Relations: 34% Kill, 66% Courier R&D;*: 0% Kill, 50% Courier(S), 50% Trade Security: 90% Kill, 5% Courier, 5%Trade Storage: 5% Kill, 95% Courier(L) Surveillance: 95% Kill, 5% Courier
Distribution, Manufacturing, Marketing, Mining, Production, Storage and Archives gave nearly only courier missions...with the Dragon Code those got screwed up... And after you implemented some patchwork courier missions to give us any courier missions at all we ended up with only Manufacturing and Production giving mainly courier missions now and even those agents give the occasional kill mission.
That brought us courier junkies down from SEVEN divisions to TWO divisions we can use. Was this intentional, was it a mistake or was it meant as an intermediate thing until you finally can overhaul the missions and divisions?
I'd REALLY appreciate an answer here, possibly with a timeframe measured in months for the to be expected waiting time until you get around to adress this issue. Thank you very much. Siri Blue
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Robeleto Kars
Eve University Ivy League
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Posted - 2007.02.16 16:12:00 -
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I don't fly very many courier missions, but this is a disturbing little nugget of information. I also hope for an answer. Robeleto Kars NPC Public Relations Officer Eve University is now enrolling. |
Ash Donai
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Posted - 2007.02.16 17:41:00 -
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I have yet to get a kill missing from a distribution agent I am using.
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Siri Blue
Gallente Duvolle Laboratories Blue Division
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Posted - 2007.02.16 17:44:00 -
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Edited by: Siri Blue on 16/02/2007 17:43:11 Ok, then its 3 divisions maybe, I sure know marketing, storage, mining and archives give at LEAST a third kill missions, probably more.
And production/manufacturing give 5-10% kill missions what used to be trade/mining missions
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Siri Blue
Gallente Duvolle Laboratories Blue Division
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Posted - 2007.02.17 14:04:00 -
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Back to the top, waiting for a reply (as usual)
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Siri Blue
Gallente Duvolle Laboratories Blue Division
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Posted - 2007.02.18 23:13:00 -
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*sits on a throne of pillows and awaits the envoy of the developer team*
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Hektor Ramirez
Outer Ring Tourist Information Center
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Posted - 2007.02.19 01:40:00 -
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I got a kill mission from a Distribution agent today. The odd thing is that the courier agents always seem to pick the hardest kill missions from the pool. It's stupid from a roleplay point of view that the boss hands the delivery boy a gun, winks and says "We need you to deliver some bullets if you know what I mean". -
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SpeedoMan
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.02.19 01:42:00 -
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Best of luck to ya... there's missions and agents that have needed fixing for... oh 3 years now! :P
I quit EVE 1.5 years ago, frustrated. Decided to give it a try again. Nothing's changed :P
Even back then, the supposed courier agent types gave mostly combat missions. That still hasn't changed. I'm still getting all combat missions from Marketing and Storage and such. I'll most likely be quitting again :P -------------------------------------------- Soban... red all the way through and through |
Pieter Draconis
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Posted - 2007.02.19 14:25:00 -
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Edited by: Pieter Draconis on 19/02/2007 14:21:54 I got two kill missions in succession last week on my lvl 4 gallente manufacturing agent. Meant another 4 hour wait before I could run another courier mission again.
In addition now have seen missions repeating themselves when I decline. I thought that was fixed that you wouldn't get the same mission again that you declined before. Now however it is happening again.
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Siri Blue
Gallente Duvolle Laboratories Blue Division
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Posted - 2007.02.19 14:41:00 -
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I wonder if there ARE any mission dev's anymore... I guess the BoD have ganked em
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Hektor Ramirez
Outer Ring Tourist Information Center
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Posted - 2007.02.19 15:10:00 -
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Well, if we absolutely must do combat missions for courier divisions, I'd like to see them being doable in haulers. For example a mission where we'd have to tank an NPC spawn in a transport ship, destroy some sort of structure with 1 turret and loot one 3000m¦ item would be fun. As it is now, any and all courier missions are doable with Racial Industrial I and there's little to no room for improvement whatsoever. If you give us hauler-combat missions we'll actually see what the fitting screen looks like without being forced into battleships. -
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Siri Blue
Gallente Duvolle Laboratories Blue Division
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Posted - 2007.02.19 18:37:00 -
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I am all for new mission types that go above the current kill or couriers boredom...
Always wanted to fly a cruise ship (not cruiser) through some fancy nebulae and/or space anomalie making money from passengers...and making extra money when there is some fancy pew pew against pirates involved which the passengers are eager to see....
This said...hiring escorts (yes NPC escorts too with social skills) to actually do the pew pew and even hiring some mercs to get something to shoot at in the first place *haha*
Well, mining missions...where you have to mine SPECIFIC mission related stuff....and watch out for them NPC pirates...
There is so much... Yet...CCP can't even get the current crap right
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Tolomea
Gallente 5th Front enterprises New Eve Order
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Posted - 2007.02.20 00:30:00 -
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Originally by: Siri Blue I guess the BoD have ganked em
That is a really primo way to ensure they never reply to any of your threads, when you want something from someone it generally goes a lot smoother if you don't insult them.
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CCP Jiekon
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Posted - 2007.02.20 00:41:00 -
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Originally by: Tolomea
Originally by: Siri Blue I guess the BoD have ganked em
That is a really primo way to ensure they never reply to any of your threads, when you want something from someone it generally goes a lot smoother if you don't insult them.
\o/ ________________________________ ~Jiekon ~CCP QA
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Hektor Ramirez
Outer Ring Tourist Information Center
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Posted - 2007.02.20 01:18:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Jiekon \o/
Care to elaborate? Or maybe even answer the, in my opinion, polite and reasonable request for an update on courier missions in the original post? -
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Trotski II
Rasta Tropical Club
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Posted - 2007.02.20 01:22:00 -
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Originally by: Tolomea
Originally by: Siri Blue I guess the BoD have ganked em
That is a really primo way to ensure they never reply to any of your threads, when you want something from someone it generally goes a lot smoother if you don't insult them.
Yes. That is rude. The Dev post in this thread is worst. So things are ignored ad nausea and then 15 minutes after this post a dev all of a sudden appears and totally ignores the substance of the post and focus in a total empty one sentence statement. This makes me
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Max Teranous
Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.02.20 01:42:00 -
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First off, the list you give in the first post is wrong. It was put together ages ago with a forum poll, and a dev stated a while back that it is not correct. This is why that list is not linked in the resources thread in the sticky.
Secondly, in insulting the devs i'd think it much more likely that you'll not get an answer from them. You catch more flies with honey, and all that.
Not calling devs flies BTW
Max
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pshepherd
Caldari Dark-Rising Fallen Souls
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Posted - 2007.02.20 01:57:00 -
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Originally by: Trotski II
Yes. That is rude. The Dev post in this thread is worst. So things are ignored ad nausea and then 15 minutes after this post a dev all of a sudden appears and totally ignores the substance of the post and focus in a total empty one sentence statement.
So first people complained when there was no dev... and now their complaining because there is a Dev?
Everyone knows that Jiekon does no work anyway, he just posts random stuff
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Ricky Starwalker
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Posted - 2007.02.20 05:29:00 -
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I hope the original poster gets a substantive answer to her question. It's a perfectly legitimate inquiry.
One thought, though: does the four-hour rule preclude you from finding a different agent to take a courier mission from? I thought you got a faction hit only if you refused a mission from the same agent twice in less than four hours. But I could be wrong, so I'm curious to hear what the rule is.
Incidentally, I mostly do combat missions, but I do have one Production agent I use for faction reasons, and she hasn't given me a combat mission yet. Lotsa courier missions, one mining/acquisition mission.
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Tolomea
Gallente 5th Front enterprises New Eve Order
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Posted - 2007.02.20 06:45:00 -
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Originally by: Ricky Starwalker One thought, though: does the four-hour rule preclude you from finding a different agent to take a courier mission from?
The 4 hour thing is per agent. So if you are waiting for the timeout one your normal agent you can happily go find another, I have 6 currently, which keeps me busy enuf.
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Hektor Ramirez
Outer Ring Tourist Information Center
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Posted - 2007.02.20 08:36:00 -
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Edited by: Hektor Ramirez on 20/02/2007 08:37:39
Originally by: Ricky Starwalker One thought, though: does the four-hour rule preclude you from finding a different agent to take a courier mission from?
No, but... - the next best agent can be 40 jumps away, especially while still on the way to lvl4 agents. courier divisions seem to spread their agents around a lot. - it's bad for business to split your LP between 6 different agents, unless you're out to have a lifetime supply of +2 charisma implants - we shouldn't have to
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ghanimede
Lasleinur Production
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Posted - 2007.02.20 11:34:00 -
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This post started with a genuine question, I have no idea what the OP's comment about being ganked by BoD means therefore can not judge if it is rude or not but I will say this....I find the fact that an employee of CCP can take the time to read the content of the post and reply with '\o/', completely ignoring the topic in question to be absolutely unnaceptable behaviour. I sincerely hope your attitude is not a reflection of the whole dev/customer service team but be aware that is the risk you take when posting in an official capacity.
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Laendra
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Posted - 2007.02.20 12:17:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Jiekon
Originally by: Tolomea
Originally by: Siri Blue I guess the BoD have ganked em
That is a really primo way to ensure they never reply to any of your threads, when you want something from someone it generally goes a lot smoother if you don't insult them.
\o/
For those of you that have not been able to figure it out, \o/, in this case, appears to essentially be the same as "QFT" or Quoted For Truth. (Quoting Tolomea, not Siri Blue, although also quoting Siri Blue gives context to the entire message). In other words, lay off the devs, especially if you would like a response from the people responsible for the area in question. Jiekon is kind enough to post in a lot of topics to let us know that, indeed, contrary to popular opinion, CCP does indeed read the forums...which apparently isn't good enough for some people. ------------------- |
Andrue
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.02.20 12:18:00 -
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Edited by: Andrue on 20/02/2007 12:16:12
Originally by: ghanimede This post started with a genuine question, I have no idea what the OP's comment about being ganked by BoD means therefore can not judge if it is rude or not but I will say this....I find the fact that an employee of CCP can take the time to read the content of the post and reply with '\o/', completely ignoring the topic in question to be absolutely unnaceptable behaviour. I sincerely hope your attitude is not a reflection of the whole dev/customer service team but be aware that is the risk you take when posting in an official capacity.
It's not particularly helpful but it was humorous and helped underline a valid point.
Unfortunately it seems that whoever is in charge of missioning wants to kill off courier missions or at least reduce them to an incidental break from combat. It's a shame. There are ways they could make some interesting missions that would merit higher rewards but alas we appear to be somewhere near the bottom of their todo list. -- (Battle hardened industrialist)
[Brackley, UK]
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Meha Mott
Minmatar Heavy Industry Technology and Logistic
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Posted - 2007.02.20 13:09:00 -
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I can confirm that only manufacturing and production Agent give out nearly only transport missions. All other "transport" agent give out sometimes large rows of kill missions . Now try to finde vailable Minmatar manufacturing or production lvl4 Agent . Vailable for me is a Agent, not in low sec or near a lot of low sec system, because its not nice loosing a lot of indus, and in returne get low pay out for the mission and huge standing loss if you got shooted down.
Sorry for my bad english , its not my native language
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Siri Blue
Gallente Duvolle Laboratories Blue Division
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Posted - 2007.02.20 13:25:00 -
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Hrm... At least there is some action in the thread now...
The comment which made Jiekon react was meant to express my displeasure about some devs openly dizzing PvE and stating that all they do in game when playing is Pirating/PvP and that that is what Eve is about. Eve is more but it seems some of the devs have forgotten that. Eve is what each individual players sees in Eve and plays in Eve, there are a lot of different playing styles and PvPing is just one of them. Letting down all the other aspects just because its not a personal preference is sad.
So much for that comment...
Of course you can go out and work for more than one agent when the courier agent gives you a kill mission again... But its annoying...I currently have what? 17 active agents...and the current agent tool (the journal) is pretty crappy to keep track of all that, who has how many LP and who is how many jumps away and stuff like that...
The main point though is that CCP screwed up the missions and especially the courier missions in many ways with the Dragon Code patch (and before and after - non-ISK rewards anyone?)and they promised to fix it soon (tm)...its been a long time and all I was asking in more than only one nicely formulated thread was some comment about the state of which the mission system, agent offers/rewards and so on is in... that \o/ was the first appearance of any dev in any of those threads......do I have to say more? Its disappointing.
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fischsemmel
AWE Corporation Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2007.02.20 14:08:00 -
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Originally by: Tolomea
Originally by: Siri Blue I guess the BoD have ganked em
That is a really primo way to ensure they never reply to any of your threads, when you want something from someone it generally goes a lot smoother if you don't insult them.
Who is being insulted here?
You'd think that a professional game developer, with years of experience, would be used to shrugging off perceived insults from his/her playerbase. This is not even to mention the little in the message... which as far as I know tends to imply some sarcasm.
I think that Siri is the one being insulted. I think she's been insulted by someone whose salary she is helping to pay, in that he couldn't give any more of a reply to her concern than \o/ (which I learned from my corpmates is some euro symbol for a man waving both his hands. wtf does that have to do with this anyway?)
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Hektor Ramirez
Outer Ring Tourist Information Center
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Posted - 2007.02.20 14:50:00 -
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Edited by: Hektor Ramirez on 20/02/2007 14:47:02
Originally by: Laendra In other words, lay off the devs, especially if you would like a response from the people responsible for the area in question.
I don't know, I could probably dig up some 30 page long thread about nanos or nos that isn't exactly oozing with diplomacy yet got a dev blog a couple of days later. It's just a bit frustrating when an aspect of the game you enjoy is in dire need of a revamp or seemingly orphaned altogether and your enquiries as to the future state either don't get answered for months or years or get derailed by a dev. -
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Sparkle Bug
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Posted - 2007.02.20 14:53:00 -
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Originally by: Siri Blue I wonder if there ARE any mission dev's anymore...
Maybe they're, like, doing stuff other than watching the forums waiting to respond to whines. Personally I'm glad that every thread on the forums isn't filled with Dev responses. Lets me know they're putting their effort into the game... much like some players should be doing?
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Jak'ai
Minmatar The Temple of Ash Ock
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Posted - 2007.02.20 14:57:00 -
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Not to rain on a perfectly good rant here, but do you think that just maybe, not all Devs know the answer to all things in EVE? Maybe?
Do you think that maybe the Devs are tired of repeatedly hearing the same one-note joke about BoB/CCP? So much so that if they ever see a rare comment in a thread indicating there are still some reasonable people left in the community, they can do nothing but cheer with some tiny shred of hope for the future?
Fact of the matter is there is a PvE team, filled with devs that actually like PvE (one would presume). Not all the Devs are pirates and PvP'ers - just many of the original team it would seem. Maybe they don't have an answer for you, maybe they don't have a concrete plan. Either way they generally don't post "dunno - we'll get around to it at some point" unless they actually plan to. Or maybe Jiekon notified one of the mission devs and they'll be by shortly.
Unfortunately paying your $15 a month doesn't entitle you to personal communication from the Dev team. You can ask the question and they can answer if they choose. Your rights begin and end with you paying your subscription.
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