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Ria Nieyli
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Posted - 2016.04.20 19:06:54 -
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Niraia wrote:Was it ARC's intention to shift this thread so far off topic, or just one bad poster?
No, you don't understand this thread is copyrighted.
Or something or other.
"slang" is shortened language for "shortened language"
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Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
2579
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Posted - 2016.04.20 19:13:24 -
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Jaret Victorian wrote:No, no. You didn't get it. You are a liar, as explained here. Baseless accusations, harassments, damage to business reputation, it has it all and I haven't hired a professional lawyer yet. Why would I be taking challenges from a liar and traitor like you and covering in shame (my coat is just fine, thanks)? Hm? By the way, clock is ticking, you owe me an ice cream and a pool party. It's you are the one who didn't get it. Did I put ANY lies there? All accusations had bases, but I have no interests of telling them to YOU anymore, since you have shown yourself earlier as a honorless liar here, by claiming I was "the first one to accuse".
Your claim was shown to be false using the thread you were linking yourself here .
And now you are backing away from responsibility like a joke.
Shame on you, coward and liar. I am not actually going to make you a challenge for you to do something to prove anything, since it was only example, how ridiculously stupid your offer looks like.
I offered you for real before that to solve the issue between you and me. But it looks like you have neither guts, nor facts behind your back, and you are just barking on your betters like angry mongrel on a chain.
Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.
In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
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Jaret Victorian
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd. Arataka Research Consortium
358
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Posted - 2016.04.20 19:24:32 -
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Diana Kim wrote:It's you are the one who didn't get it. Did I put ANY lies there? All accusations had bases, but I have no interests of telling them to YOU anymore, since you have shown yourself earlier as a honorless liar here, by claiming I was "the first one to accuse". Your claim was shown to be false using the thread you were linking yourself here . And now you are backing away from responsibility like a joke. Shame on you, coward and liar. I am not actually going to make you a challenge for you to do something to prove anything, since it was only example, how ridiculously stupid your offer looks like. I offered you for real before that to solve the issue between you and me. But it looks like you have neither guts, nor facts behind your back, and you are just barking on your betters like angry mongrel on a chain. Quite the opposite. The thing is you can't challenge me because we both are liars and it invalidates your claim to satisfy honor, more than that I was the first to call you out on your lies.
You see, none of your accusations had bases, as I explained to you a bit earlier. And then you got angry and started threatening me.
Therefore it invalidates your challenge, so, in order to save your face as a valuable citizen of the State you absolutely have to oblige and follow through with my challenge. You see the logic? It's quite simple, really.
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Karina Ivanovich
Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde
12
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Posted - 2016.04.20 19:34:53 -
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What is a lie if not another's truth? What is truth but someone's perception? The eyes of those that see clearly are often blind. Yet the blind often see the answer plain.
Fault not the deaf for being deaf. Rather shun those that pluck out their own eyes. Silence the mouths of those that speak truth. Delve not into secrets unbecoming.
Perception of others is always skewed. The voices of one are always lies. Plant not the seeds of hatred. Look and and learn in due time.
Creep ye now on silent pastures.
Moving through the paths of life.
Question not the things that matter.
Just live this world of love and strife.
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Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
2579
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Posted - 2016.04.20 20:12:27 -
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Jaret Victorian wrote:Diana Kim wrote:It's you are the one who didn't get it. Did I put ANY lies there? All accusations had bases, but I have no interests of telling them to YOU anymore, since you have shown yourself earlier as a honorless liar here, by claiming I was "the first one to accuse". Your claim was shown to be false using the thread you were linking yourself here . And now you are backing away from responsibility like a joke. Shame on you, coward and liar. I am not actually going to make you a challenge for you to do something to prove anything, since it was only example, how ridiculously stupid your offer looks like. I offered you for real before that to solve the issue between you and me. But it looks like you have neither guts, nor facts behind your back, and you are just barking on your betters like angry mongrel on a chain. Quite the opposite. The thing is you can't challenge me because we both are liars and it invalidates your claim to satisfy honor, more than that I was the first to call you out on your lies. Yet I am not, because unlike you I value my honor greater than my life.
I can challenge you on the basis that you have publically lied about me. But I am not going to do it anymore since you have proven yourself to be a dishonorable tyuui, not worth duelling with Caldari Officer.
Jaret Victorian wrote:You see, none of your accusations had bases, as I explained to you a bit earlier. And then you got angry and started threatening me. I'd say sorry for not reading that part, but I am not sorry about it, since you have started lying about me in public, and thus I was not interested in what you were writing following it. If you are turned to be a liar, why should I take your other words seriously, "scientist"?
Jaret Victorian wrote: Therefore it invalidates your challenge, so, in order to save your face as a valuable citizen of the State you absolutely have to oblige and follow through with my challenge. You see the logic? It's quite simple, really.
It does not invalidates my challenge as I have already said why. I have invalidated my challenge myself since you have shown yourself a coward honorless liar. Besides, Caldari Officer has no obligations towards dishonorable lying scum.
Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.
In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
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Rinai Vero
Moira. Villore Accords
764
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Posted - 2016.04.20 20:15:58 -
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What a farce. If there was ever any validity to the idea that Caldari honor could be validated by trial of arms, then Diana Kim lost all claim to righteousness when she failed in her unprovoked attack on fellow Caldari Officers.
First, when she lost in combat between her Navy Hookbill-class frigate against a Kestrel and a Heron.
Second, when her Zealot-class HAC was destroyed by that same Kestrel and Heron, with the assistance of lawful intervention by the State Protectorate Sentry Gun in response to her illegal attack.
That she would initiate such engagements under such clearly advantageous conditions to her and then lose says all that needs to be said about the honor of her cause.
Those were trials under arms, initiated by Diana Kim, in which she failed. Then, having failed, any honorable person would have apologized for their failure and acknowledged the clearly proven righteousness of their opponent. This she did not do, and indeed has not done since.
No honorable combatant should engage in any duels with such a person, as honor cannot be gained from a foe without honor. |
Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
2579
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Posted - 2016.04.20 20:30:15 -
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Stop spreading crap, Vero. You know nothing. This wasnt 'trial by combat'. These two were traitors.
Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.
In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
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Jaret Victorian
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd. Arataka Research Consortium
359
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Posted - 2016.04.20 20:32:02 -
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True words, Ms. Vero.
As for Kim-baka, you can't beat my logic. Also, less than 23 hours to prove your valuability to the State.
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Rinai Vero
Moira. Villore Accords
765
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Posted - 2016.04.20 20:36:41 -
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Diana Kim wrote:Stop spreading crap, Vero. You know nothing. This wasnt 'trial by combat'. These two were traitors.
Prove it. What was their treason? Insulting you? I'm afraid that no Caldari State authority deems that action illegal.
Your action, however, was illegal. Your ship was destroyed by a Caldari State law enforcement action. That is a fact. I've seen the killmail, and anyone on this forum can confirm it.
You betrayed the State. You illegally attacked a fellow Caldari Officer. Your defeat proves your guilt, by any "trial by arms" code. |
Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
2579
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Posted - 2016.04.20 20:56:57 -
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That's not your business, Vero. Go look for it yourself if you want. These bastards resisted arrest and got away. That's all.
Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.
In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
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Rinai Vero
Moira. Villore Accords
765
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Posted - 2016.04.20 20:59:42 -
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That's fracking insane. Where is the proof? All is see is the proof of State Protectorate law enforcement intervening against you!
I have looked. You posted no proof of anything. If you have evidence of any treason other than your own, by all means post it. |
Mika Firestorm
Your Friendly Neighborhood Logistics
11
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Posted - 2016.04.20 21:02:55 -
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Kim. Lay off that guy. Is this that important who said it first to risk your life for it?
Jaret. You was caught red-handed. Stop acting like a child and have some guts to admit it.
State the nature of your medical emergency
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Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
2579
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Posted - 2016.04.20 21:10:40 -
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Rinai Vero wrote:That's fracking insane. Where is the proof? All is see is the proof of State Protectorate law enforcement intervening against you! Don't act fool, Vero. Either you know that was because of CONCORD rules of engagement and simply trolling, or you are an ignorant and idiot. Explain yourself.
Rinai Vero wrote: I have looked. You posted no proof of anything. If you have evidence of any treason other than your own, by all means post it.
Either you have bad eyes or looked in wrong place.
In any way, this was discussion about Priano misdeeds, not a place for idiots from all the cluster to pop up to discuss random lies about me.
Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.
In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
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Jaret Victorian
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd. Arataka Research Consortium
359
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Posted - 2016.04.20 21:15:05 -
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Excuse me for treating annoying people like they treat my friends.
Ms. vero, I suggest you challenge here to do something ridiculous, she just called you names~
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Makoto Priano
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd. Arataka Research Consortium
8296
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Posted - 2016.04.20 21:51:23 -
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Jaret, Kim's a lost cause. Anyone with sense knows perfectly well that she repeats the same senseless tripe, and anyone who disagrees with her is accused of being a Gallente bootlicker. Even notable Patriots such as Pieter Tuulinen are accused of being subversives if they dare disagree with her.
Her rabid refusal of anything contrary, her frothing dedication to that dead criminal Heth are both clear enough signs that we should save our breath for more important matters.
And Niraia, indeed, Kim's repetitive tripe took this thread off course. Unfortunate, but her badposting does this to every thread she touches.
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Valerie Valate
Church of The Crimson Saviour Sani-Sabik
1361
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Posted - 2016.04.20 21:57:55 -
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For a brief moment in time, I thought that since GP had asked Commander Kim for her opinion, before publishing this story, that it therefore implied that she wouldn't comment in the thread. Since she'd already expressed her opinion on the topic.
Well. I was wrong. Hurr.
Doctor V. Valate, Professor of Archaeology at Kaztropolis Imperial University.
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Rinai Vero
Moira. Villore Accords
765
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Posted - 2016.04.20 22:00:04 -
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I won't challenge her to do anything but prove what she claims. I've provided facts. She has not.
Actually, she has admitted to my facts by invoking CONCORD "rules of engagement." The Caldari State is a member of CONCORD. The CEP and all legitimate Caldari State institutions recognize the legitimacy of CONCORD, and generally abide by its rules. Except, as we know, when issues of Caldari State sovereignty or military necessity take precedence. The Battle of Caldari Prime is a perfect example, and there are others. When the State decides that CONCORD rules of engagement restrict them from properly enforcing State law, they disregard those rules.
The fact that the State Protectorate did not disregard CONCORD rules of engagement and did intervene against Commander Kim proves that her accusations of treason by her opponents are without legitimate basis. If Commander Kim had been operating with official State Protectorate sanction to enforce a lawful warrant of arrest, the State Protectorate would not have fired on her ship.
I provided the exact time and circumstances of the engagement for the public to verify.
Commander Kim, provide facts to support your accusations or withdraw those accusation.
Also, you have again accused me of lying without any evidence that any statement of mine is untrue. Specify which of my statements are "lies."
Diana Kim wrote:In any way, this was discussion about Priano misdeeds, not a place for idiots from all the cluster to pop up to discuss random lies about me.
No, this topic was about something completely different before you hijacked it to further your personal vendetta against Mokoto Priano.
Now I'm making it about you, your repeated refusal to prove what you say, and the lack of any legitimate basis for you to challenge anyone over any matter of honor when you have none. Your honor is owned by Veikitamo Gesakaarin ever she honorably defeated you in combat you dishonorably initiated. Twice. |
Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
2579
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Posted - 2016.04.20 22:14:40 -
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Makoto Priano wrote:Jaret, Kim's a lost cause. Anyone with sense knows perfectly well that she repeats the same senseless tripe, and anyone who disagrees with her is accused of being a Gallente bootlicker. Oh, and here we see like a well known liar Makoto Priano lies again about Caldari Officer.
How... unimaginative.
Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.
In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
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Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
2579
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Posted - 2016.04.20 22:21:49 -
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Rinai Vero wrote:No, this topic was about something completely different before you hijacked it to further your personal vendetta against Mokoto Priano. I don't have any personal enemies, Vero. I am soldier of the State and I fight everyone who will attack us, by words or actions.
Rinai Vero wrote: Now I'm making it about you, your repeated refusal to prove what you say, and the lack of any legitimate basis for you to challenge anyone over any matter of honor when you have none. Your honor is owned by Veikitamo Gesakaarin ever she honorably defeated you in combat you dishonorably initiated. Twice.
Veikitamo is a well known pirate and traitor with foul mouth. Don't make a clown of yourself claiming otherwise. Maybe at that time she was hiding among our ranks, pretending to be Caldari, but right now all cards are open.
Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.
In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
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Rinai Vero
Moira. Villore Accords
766
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Posted - 2016.04.20 22:54:35 -
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Oh, I'm well aware of who the fool in this conversation is.
Again, you make accusations and assertions but provide no facts. Pirate and traitor? Hiding among true Caldari under false pretense? I suppose it takes one to know one.
Pirate? Your public profile states that you have a security status of -2.7. Clearly, you have committed acts of piracy.
Traitor? As has been previously shown, you illegally attacked a fellow Caldari Officer. You undertook this treachery in a theater of war in view of the enemy. Such betrayal is treason in any military.
Hiding amongst the ranks of true Caldari? True Caldari are those who serve the will of the State. The State is led by the Caldari Executive Panel, which declared Tibus Heth an outlaw and called for his arrest by the Caldari Navy. Since that time you have continued to praise Tibus Heth and refuse to disavow his legitimacy. Your refusal to follow the lawful orders of the CEP proves that you do not serve the will of the State, as any true Caldari would. Therefore you hide in the ranks of the State Protectorate, undermining the efforts of true Patriots to protect the Caldari State.
Whatever excuses you offer, they are the words of a well known pirate and traitor who pretends to be an honorable Caldari Officer. |
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Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
1735
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Posted - 2016.04.20 22:56:49 -
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*munches popcorn*
A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.
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Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
1735
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Posted - 2016.04.20 22:59:01 -
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Rinai Vero wrote:Oh, I'm well aware of who the fool in this conversation is.
Again, you make accusations and assertions but provide no facts. Pirate and traitor? Hiding among true Caldari under false pretense? I suppose it takes one to know one.
Pirate? Your public profile states that you have a security status of -2.7. Clearly, you have committed acts of piracy.
Traitor? As has been previously shown, you illegally attacked a fellow Caldari Officer. You undertook this treachery in a theater of war in view of the enemy. Such betrayal is treason in any military.
Hiding amongst the ranks of true Caldari? True Caldari are those who serve the will of the State. The State is led by the Caldari Executive Panel, which declared Tibus Heth an outlaw and called for his arrest by the Caldari Navy. Since that time you have continued to praise Tibus Heth and refuse to disavow his legitimacy. Your refusal to follow the lawful orders of the CEP proves that you do not serve the will of the State, as any true Caldari would. Therefore you hide in the ranks of the State Protectorate, undermining the efforts of true Patriots to protect the Caldari State.
Whatever excuses you offer, they are the words of a well known pirate and traitor who pretends to be an honorable Caldari Officer. SHUT UP GALLENTE SCUM! YOU KNOW NOTHING OF THE CALDARI!!!!
A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.
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Morwen Lagann
Tyrathlion Interstellar
1676
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Posted - 2016.04.20 23:03:55 -
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Ria Nieyli wrote:Question Asker wrote:Executive Lagann also seemed surprised at the suggestion that Drifter Elements might be a control mechanism for a wormhole generator device, stating that "none of our research or studies have shown anything like that, to my knowledge. Some research that is. Took me and another pilot ca. fifteen minutes to figure it out over an open channel. Tisk tisk.
Me not being aware of the current state of ARC research says literally nothing other than that I am unaware of the current state of it.
I've been busy recuperating after a long and extended campaign against the Drifters in defense of the Throne Worlds, and have been keeping myself largely to coordinating the continued excursions into the Hives, and planning my trip to Dam-Torsad for the Succession Finals. Keeping on top of research that I am not directly involved in is not on my priority list, and if nobody is flagging a memo for my review then I'm not inclined to go prying - I believe that the work is best done without interference, and would rather leave those responsible for it to continue their work than to interrupt them to give me an explanation.
The last update I personally saw regarding the elements (or "spacebread" as some have jokingly taken to calling them) was a very brief message involving their rather strange behavior with regards to memetics - in the sense that close observation of them seems to elicit certain patterns of thought to the observers.
As for wormhole generation, while analysis of the debris field in the innermost areas of the Hive suggests that the structure may have been similar in design and purpose to what we consider stargates, there has yet to be any indication of a connection with the Drifter elements, based on testing that, yes, involved said elements in varying combinations. What does appear to be likely to be "a control mechanism for a wormhole generator device" are the different alignment sequences that we have managed to recover in each of the Hives. They are decidedly different from the Drifter elements, and yes, we have tested using them with what access points we were able to discern within the debris; any change caused by them is below the threshold of observation for even the most sensitive of equipment available for capsuleer use.
As for you and that other pilot, congratulations. You came up with a theory without any empirical evidence to back it up. That's not research. Research would actually require you to have access to the materials you're talking about, and the opportunity to perform tests on them, which I can guarantee neither of which are the case. Especially not within the space of fifteen minutes.
Morwen Lagann
CEO, Tyrathlion Interstellar
Coordinator, Arataka Research Consortium
Owner, The Golden Masque
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Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
2579
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Posted - 2016.04.20 23:04:24 -
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Jaret Victorian wrote:Excuse me for treating annoying people like they treat my friends. Well, I didn't lie about your friends. You lied about me in public.
Jaret Victorian wrote:Ms. Vero, I suggest you challenge her to do something ridiculous, she just called you names~ I have challenged you not to "something ridiculous", but to solve any issues you had with me one on one without disturbing IGS further. I have thought you had honor to stand for your words.
I was mistaken. You have chosen the path of a coward dishonored and irrelevant liar, preferring to just bark on IGS even after you was caught and your lie was revealed to all the readers. And thus I don't offer you the duel anymore.
It was your clownery to try to "challenge" me do some sort of foolish irrelevant stuff after your lie was revealed in your futile attempt to evade retribution. As for dueling me with Vero you probably shall know that we are already enemies and shall we meet we'll just shoot each other, will it be in space or inside station, and we don't need any further arrangement for that.
As for Vero's foul mouth and lies about me... well, she has just shown me she doesn't deserve respect and behaves like typical gallente scum that shall be exterminated.
Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.
In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
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Rinai Vero
Moira. Villore Accords
766
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Posted - 2016.04.20 23:05:58 -
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What's really hilarious is that I don't even like Veikitamo Gesakaarin. Nor do I particularly care for Mokoto Priano.
I've repeatedly criticized both of them for carrying their own vendettas against my friend and CEO Julianus Soter. I've happily fought wars against their corporations in the past, and could easily end up shooting at them in the future.
As far as I'm concerned, neither of them deserve my intervention in their defense. Neither of them probably care to have me defend them. But then, I'm not doing this in their defense.
I'm doing it because I'm tired of everyone on this forum being subjected to your abuse at the behest of your many personal vendettas. And make no mistake, they are personal vendettas. Your only complaint against either of them is based on supposed "lies" made about you not the State.
This community is obviously sick of your petty vendettas, I know I am. If you refuse to change your behavior, then I'll continue to call out for the traitor and charlatan your actions prove you to be. |
Makoto Priano
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd. Arataka Research Consortium
8301
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Posted - 2016.04.20 23:09:33 -
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It feels very strange to agree with Vero, considering how often and how sharply we disagree on many points.
Still, there you have it.
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Rinai Vero
Moira. Villore Accords
770
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Posted - 2016.04.20 23:10:39 -
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Diana Kim wrote:
As for Vero's foul mouth and lies about me... well, she has just shown me she doesn't deserve respect and behaves like typical gallente scum that shall be exterminated.
And you have yet to specify which of my statements is a lie. I haven't lied, I've stated facts about your conduct that you are incapable of defending.
Tell you what, Commander Kim. If you'll stop telling lies about everyone who disagrees with you, I'll stop telling the truth about you. |
Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
1735
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Posted - 2016.04.20 23:13:54 -
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Rinai Vero wrote:Diana Kim wrote:
As for Vero's foul mouth and lies about me... well, she has just shown me she doesn't deserve respect and behaves like typical gallente scum that shall be exterminated.
And you have yet to specify which of my statements is a lie. I haven't lied, I've stated facts about your conduct that you are incapable of defending. Tell you what, Commander Kim. If you'll stop telling lies about everyone who disagrees with you, I'll stop telling the truth about you. Literally none of that will happen. However, if we report her enough for off topic posts.....
A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.
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Jaret Victorian
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd. Arataka Research Consortium
360
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Posted - 2016.04.20 23:24:22 -
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Kim, it's funny how I can just c&p your drivel, change names and there you go.
Still, I don't really have to accept anything other than an apology from a liar, a traitor and a conspirator such as you are. Mind, I already backed these claims.
Claudia Osyn wrote: Literally none of that will happen. However, if we report her enough for off topic posts.....
Please don't.
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Deitra Vess
Non-Hostile Target
1039
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Posted - 2016.04.20 23:26:50 -
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[Retracted]
Might makes right, preparation is key, so cross my words, make a liar outta' me. |
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