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Monstah Khaos
K-Co.
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Posted - 2016.04.23 04:02:51 -
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Been close to 2 yrs and got an itch to play again...
Got back on with all my stuff and went mining in hi-sec the last week or so to get a feel for it all again...
Tonight I was jumped mining by some people who popped my Hulk within seconds and took off before Concord got in. These player continued to harass my mining claiming I needed to go to some website and pay real money for a "permit". I decided to hop in my Golem and go a sector over to run some L4 missions and was pounced again while salvaging my loot. They couldn't do much and were gone before Concord got a hold of them. Again...the permit thing.
What's up with that? Is that new thing now in EVE? I have packed up all my stuff and am now looking to the other side of Caldari space to try and play and get back into things.
A friend I was mining with also was attacked by the same players but was able to get away in time both times.
It's too bad griefers are still so rampant. Took a look at the website and they don't gank for loot. They simply go for fast kills to grief players. I'll be dammned if I'm going to pay for my acct and then have to pay players money to enjoy my Carebear gameplay. |
Shae Tadaruwa
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2016.04.23 05:37:09 -
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You were mining with this character? |
Shayla Etherodyne
United Nations Industrial Holdings
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Posted - 2016.04.23 05:37:32 -
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If they have really avoided Concord that is petitionable as an exploit.
I have returned after 4 years little more than a month ago and hadn't any new problem (being suicide ganked while moving trough Uedama with an industrial isn't neither new nor a problem), so probably changing your area of activity would help. |
Tisiphone Dira
New Order Logistics CODE.
773
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Posted - 2016.04.23 05:50:32 -
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It's only 10m a year though. What a bargain! What a steal! |
Sir Dude
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2016.04.23 05:59:20 -
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Mine in a Skiff or a Procurer and shield+rig tank it, then the douchebags will leave you alone.
As for a new home, don't make it in Uttindar.....ha ha. |
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs
5983
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Posted - 2016.04.23 06:04:37 -
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Wrong attitude.
You are blaming others, instead of laughing, saying "damn, I screwed-up!", and "what can I do to avoid this happening again?"
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5001248#post5001248 |
Grauth Thorner
Vicious Trading Company
491
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Posted - 2016.04.23 11:05:36 -
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Tau Cabalander wrote:Wrong attitude.
You are blaming others, instead of laughing, saying "damn, I screwed-up!", and "what can I do to avoid this happening again?"
Pretty much this, but either way avoiding concord is petitionable and you'll also never have to pay real-life money to any player for anything. I would petition that as well if I were you, real-life money is only part of the game if its destination is CCP's bank account.
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Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
11785
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Posted - 2016.04.23 11:37:12 -
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1. They didn't evade CONCORD. Come on, you know it, I know it, the whole world knows it.
2. The mining permits are 10m ISK for a year. They don't demand payment in RL money.
Bumble's Bullplop-o-meter is screaming right now
Got a HoleySheet1 corpse? I'll buy it for 200m!
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Shae Tadaruwa
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
242
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Posted - 2016.04.23 11:38:42 -
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Grauth Thorner wrote:...but either way avoiding concord is petitionable and you'll also never have to pay real-life money to any player for anything. I would petition that as well if I were you, ... Maybe he's from Iceland and when they said 10 million ISK, he just thought real ISK.
This looks more like a case of a guy being butthurt over being blown up, not realising that the criminals were killed by CONCORD and not understanding how CODE. and associates work. |
Grauth Thorner
Vicious Trading Company
491
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Posted - 2016.04.23 11:46:38 -
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Shae Tadaruwa wrote:Grauth Thorner wrote:...but either way avoiding concord is petitionable and you'll also never have to pay real-life money to any player for anything. I would petition that as well if I were you, ... Maybe he's from Iceland and when they said 10 million ISK, he just thought real ISK. This looks more like a case of a guy being butthurt over being blown up, not realising that the criminals were killed by CONCORD and not understanding how CODE. and associates work. I have my doubts as well, but I have no proof confirming my doubts so I'll just play along.
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Josef Djugashvilis
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Posted - 2016.04.23 11:50:00 -
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Tisiphone Dira wrote:It's only 10m a year though. What a bargain! What a steal!
...steal - being the operative word.
Jeez, just laugh at CODE and mine elsewhere if you need to.
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Monstah Khaos
K-Co.
1
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Posted - 2016.04.23 12:29:46 -
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Actually I just moved all the way to the other side and started mining again and now another corp came in, declared war on me, placed a bounty on me and kept ramming me to where I couldn't mine at all.
I moved to another sector and another from their corp started it again.
Needless to say, Eve is not as enjoyable to me as it once was. Trying to get the feel back and re-learn most of the game but so far it has proven nearly impossible even in hi-sec. Can't seem to run missions without harassment and can't seem to mine more than a couple hours.
Only get a couple hours a day to play but so far have lost a hulk, been bumped out of every sector I have tried to go to ranging from 0.8 - 0.6. To many I am sure it is funny.... to me it has taken the fun out of the Eve I remember and loved. Oh well, $15 not a big deal to lose. |
Celthric Kanerian
Ascendance Of New Eden Workers Trade Federation
723
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Posted - 2016.04.23 14:33:56 -
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Monstah Khaos wrote: Actually I just moved all the way to the other side and started mining again and now another corp came in, declared war on me, placed a bounty on me and kept ramming me to where I couldn't mine at all.
I moved to another sector and another from their corp started it again.
Needless to say, Eve is not as enjoyable to me as it once was. Trying to get the feel back and re-learn most of the game but so far it has proven nearly impossible even in hi-sec. Can't seem to run missions without harassment and can't seem to mine more than a couple hours.
Only get a couple hours a day to play but so far have lost a hulk, been bumped out of every sector I have tried to go to ranging from 0.8 - 0.6. To many I am sure it is funny.... to me it has taken the fun out of the Eve I remember and loved. Oh well, $15 not a big deal to lose.
Oh stop whining, and switch over to a Skiff and all the problems disappear in a heartbeat. If you want to remain in your Hulk, then join a Mining corp who knows what they're doing.
What they're probably doing to you in hisec missions, is killing your MTU. Just remember that doesn't give you kill right. |
Graabeerd Khagah
MoonFyre StarBurst Pirateers
164
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Posted - 2016.04.23 16:17:32 -
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@OP, sorry to hear about your experience of returning to Eve and being ganked, wardecced, what ever the case may be. This is one of the numerous reasons why new and even seasoned veterans quit and forget about Eve as a whole, because of the likes of CODE for instance. They thrive on a ridiculous gameplay of roleplaying sov holders in hisec which is literally impossible to do as is.
I really feel for you that even loosing $15 for a month is not hard to recoup, and yet this is why CCP is on the loosing end of maintaining any credibility despite of all the lies and propaganda coming from Iceland.
Whether or not if you continue is up to you, and should you decide to cancel I wish you the best of luck elsewhere.
Take care and Fly Reckless. 07 |
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
11785
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Posted - 2016.04.23 16:19:27 -
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Just buy a damned permit, only 10m ISK for a whole year and saves a whole lot of saltiness
Got a HoleySheet1 corpse? I'll buy it for 200m!
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TackyTachy1
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
44
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Posted - 2016.04.23 17:28:13 -
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I mine with three Skiffs, tanked , with a full loadout of Hammerhead 2's. I watch dscan, when a potential ganker heads my way I'm waiting for him. When the ganker enters my belt he's target locked with 15 HH2's. No, I can't shoot first, but up till now every wannabe little ganker has simply turned and warped away.
But then I found a little out of the way region with asteroid belts bursting at the seams with high value ore and no, repeat no, gankers. Don't know how long that will last but it's cool for now.
CODES a joke and easy to beat, don't fall for their prattle.
Designated Rep for 7 characters, two corps and one doofus multi-boxer.
Pathetic at PvP but handy with a spreadsheet; lost a bunch of ships but not one spreadsheet.
Credo: You don't WIN in this game; you SURVIVE in this game.
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ITTigerClawIK
Galactic Rangers EVEolution.
481
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Posted - 2016.04.23 20:08:27 -
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wait people actually pay these guys? |
T'B0NE
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2016.04.23 20:16:57 -
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ITTigerClawIK wrote:wait people actually pay these guys? Yep and it only encourages their silly antics more.
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Ka Plaa
Raumfahrer Spiff Rakett Piloot Anslutning
95
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Posted - 2016.04.23 20:46:45 -
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Tisiphone Dira wrote:It's only 10m a year though. What a bargain! What a steal! Just look at that friendly face! That is a trustworthy face. Or maybe just a happy chiropractic customer... |
NotTheSmartestCookie
New Order Logistics CODE.
101
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Posted - 2016.04.23 20:52:24 -
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CODE has been around for longer than the past two years. There are several parts in your tale where the truth is being severely stretched. In my experience people most often get wardecced when they are less than civil in their discourse. A Gallent reaction always does wonders for further interactions, while a Goofus suffers as he must.
Making New Eden a better place 8 rounds of Void at a time.
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Monstah Khaos
One One Bravo
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Posted - 2016.04.23 21:12:51 -
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NotTheSmartestCookie wrote:CODE has been around for longer than the past two years. There are several parts in your tale where the truth is being severely stretched. In my experience people most often get wardecced when they are less than civil in their discourse. A Gallent reaction always does wonders for further interactions, while a Goofus suffers as he must.
Mmmmm no. The wardec came in an ice field in 0.6. Was there about 10 minutes and about 4 Skiffs were there all in NPC corps. Then a guy in a corp called Zero Tolerance warps in with a battleship, immediately wardecs, places bounty on me and rams me as I was trying to align and warp away. He didn't bother with the other players there.
He typed in chat "bump, bump, bump".
I went back about 30mins later and he was still sitting there with the 4 other skiffs.
Not a word was said from my end.
Either way, you can call it whining..whatever. Try to make me out to be the idiot or the bad guy...or whatever.... Eve has always been grief central and obviously hasn't cleaned up much. The worst when I was last playing were the assholes who warped into your missions and salvaged (ninjas) your loot out from under you with nothing you could do to stop them. That sucked then... I beat that by paying another $15 for another account that ran close behind my Golem salvaging as the kills dropped.
It would appear that I need to sell my Mackinaw now and get a lower grade Skiff....but that still doesn't the solve the "bumping" which is most common I have noticed. Another way around the system to create grief to a player that the player can do nothing about.. Rock on |
NotTheSmartestCookie
New Order Logistics CODE.
101
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Posted - 2016.04.23 21:29:37 -
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In that case look for some allies in the wardec (Crime and Punishment forum) so that both parties can entertain each other.
The best way to deal with ninja salvagers is obviously to pull your drones so there is no accidental aggression, give a friendly wave in local and ignore it.
As to the Mackinaw the solution has already been suggested several times: get a mining permit, great value at only 10m for a whole year of licensed mining.
Making New Eden a better place 8 rounds of Void at a time.
Funny, smartest, pretty and relevant. Pick 3.
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Ka Plaa
Raumfahrer Spiff Rakett Piloot Anslutning
95
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Posted - 2016.04.23 23:42:45 -
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Shoot the wrecks :) or just ignore the ninja salvagers.
I thought wardecs take 24 hours before the sides involved can start shooting each other and in the case of a corp joining an alliance already at war it's still an hour before said corp can shoot wartargets without concordokken. There are instant wardecs? I didn't know that. |
Grauth Thorner
Vicious Trading Company
495
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Posted - 2016.04.24 09:23:53 -
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Ka Plaa wrote:There are instant wardecs? There aren't. OP didn't get killed in that belt, just bumped and bountied.
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Beamstream
Nuclear Shadow Inc
0
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Posted - 2016.04.24 16:13:13 -
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Am I the only one I thinks this is ********. I know ccp wants the game to be run by the players as much as possible but making people pay protection money to play the safest way in this game is outrageous. Hi sec is meant to be fairly safe. It sounds like they gank the same people over and over to force them to pay the isk. This is one of many reasons why the game is dieing even tho the numbers have went up it will go back down, then down again. There is a point that ccp needs to step in and make this game a little less realistic.
Paying for safety in a game. What's next . Threats to kidnap you're family if you don't pay up irl.
Sorry for the bad typing auto correct and cba to correct. |
Grauth Thorner
Vicious Trading Company
497
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Posted - 2016.04.24 21:09:30 -
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Beamstream wrote:Hi sec is meant to be fairly safe. It still is.
Beamstream wrote:Paying for safety in a game. What's next . Threats to kidnap you're family if you don't pay up irl. Don't undock, there's your 100% safety.
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Ka Plaa
Raumfahrer Spiff Rakett Piloot Anslutning
98
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Posted - 2016.04.24 21:35:39 -
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Beamstream wrote:....There is a point that ccp needs to step in and make this game a little less realistic...
I disagree. sandbox and virtual space-freedom > NACL
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Breezly Brewin
Vril Metaphysics Society
34
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Posted - 2016.04.25 08:20:10 -
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Same thread different day
Dotlan maps has #jumps, #kills, and other activity for each system - you can even find hi sec systems with no kills in quite a long time this way. Dead end, stationless systems can be empty most of the time. The gankers just don't waste their time with those systems for obvious reasons. No one to gank and they will be seen a mile away when they are the only one in local.
People have been charging for this mining license thing as long as I can remember, before CODE was even a thing. There will always be someone out to blow up your ship - CODE or no code.
If i'm a solo ganker out for the lulz I don't care about your mining license. I care about how clearly afk and how badly tanked you are. Even if I was in code idk if I'd care/have time to check/care or ask whoever if you were on the list. Sounds like way too much work for 10m/ year when you have drone rigs and no mid slots on your exhumer. |
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